LoN will be the end of EQ2

JackAll · 08-28-2007, 02:54 PM

For me at least.

I mean have you seen those items?

That mana item in particular is [Removed for Content] up the game.

Give it a few months and that item will be used to make the really hard encounters easier. That will result in SoE making the encounters harder and in turn making the items mandatory for raiders.

Oops, there goes the level playing field and equal opportunity.

This I find to be completely unacceptable

The worst part is the there will be no way to nerf the items later. People paid real money for them

Lithran · 08-28-2007, 02:56 PM

Hmm. Raid lasts 3+ hours. Items last 30 minutes with a 24 hour recast. Yeah that will really really change the game dynamics.Bye. Sorry your leaving the game for fluff items.

JackAll · 08-28-2007, 03:05 PM

If an item that grants you 100% mana and can be used in combat is your idea of a fluff item, what is an uber item?

Miss_Jackie · 08-28-2007, 03:07 PM

Well, I'm just gonna say this, before some random schmuck steps in:"Can I has your stuff?"*snicker*

liveja · 08-28-2007, 03:08 PM

I've stated my strong objections to LoN in the past, I'm not going to re-hash them here.

I will say, though, that the whole thing is pretty easy to ignore, & with that in mind -- & the fact that I'd miss my guildies ever so much if I cancelled my account -- I've decided it's not worth cancelling over. I just won't bother with it.

Miss_Jackie · 08-28-2007, 03:10 PM

Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:

I've stated my strong objections to LoN in the past, I'm not going to re-hash them here.
I will say, though, that the whole thing is pretty easy to ignore, & with that in mind -- & the fact that I'd miss my guildies ever so much if I cancelled my account -- I've decided it's not worth cancelling over. I just won't bother with it.

My guildies are the biggest reason why I enjoy EQ2. I have no opinion on LoN. Haven't played it much though.. *shrug*

JackAll · 08-28-2007, 03:14 PM

It is not so much the items that are the problem so much as you have to pay hundreds of dollars for them

Miss_Jackie · 08-28-2007, 03:15 PM

JackAll wrote:

It is not so much the items that are the problem so much as you have to pay hundreds of dollars for them

SOE isn't putting a gun to your head to purchase them.

infa · 08-28-2007, 03:16 PM

like most things in life, you have to learn to base enjoyment on your self.if it's always about being on a "level playing field" you'll always be sorely disappointed in the end.there's always someone stronger, faster, better.you play basketball at the park with your friends because you enjoy it. you don't say "i'm not going to play basketball anymore because i can never be as good as (insert a nba player here)".eq2 should be no different. play it because you enjoy it for what it is. if you can't, then it's time to move on.

JackAll · 08-28-2007, 03:17 PM

Yes they are.

Dont kid your self. They will be required for high end raiding and raiding guilds

Lithran · 08-28-2007, 03:18 PM

That's like saying I am going to quit this game because I cannot afford the really good adornments that others can afford because they play more then me.It's something else in the game that makes someone else stronger. Now remember also, these items are single person use only. They are not group/raid.The full mana thing. You honestly think EVERYONE in the raid will get it? The chances of that I would love to see. You think a guild will get their members to pay money until they get that item or they cannot raid? I am in beta and I got 2 items for claiming. My wife is also in beta and as only gotten 1 item. (We were both at fan faire).I got the extra dps by 9.9 for 30 minutes and something that will gate me to the Inn of my choice (not sure how it works yet). She got the same first item as me. Is that going to make her a even more wanted Conjorur in raids?

Miss_Jackie · 08-28-2007, 03:18 PM

JackAll wrote:

Yes they are.
Dont kid your self. They will be required for high end raiding and raiding guilds

If you don't like it, move then on. Jesus. More playing, less complaining.

Leatherneck · 08-28-2007, 03:20 PM

JackAll wrote:

LoN will be the end of EQ2

No, it won't.

And even if it does become "required" for high-end raiding....that won't be the end of EQ2.

Talz · 08-28-2007, 03:22 PM

JackAll wrote:

Yes they are.
Dont kid your self. They will be required for high end raiding and raiding guilds

I want to see your numbers. How many have you been able to acquire in beta? You must be getting them every twenty minutes to be able to say that it will be a realistic requirement.I bet you don't have any numbers though and this is just really about someone else getting a mount you want.

JackAll · 08-28-2007, 03:23 PM

No, you are right.

Just for those that will not or can can not pay for it.

Miss_Jackie · 08-28-2007, 03:23 PM

Leatherneck wrote:

JackAll wrote:
LoN will be the end of EQ2
No, it won't.
And even if it does become "required" for high-end raiding....that won't be the end of EQ2.

Exactly. There's more to EQ2 than raiding.

Khamul · 08-28-2007, 03:26 PM

Oh my god they ruined the game again!!!

This is the 4th or 5th time they ruined the game and everyone had to quit since I started in June.....

JackAll · 08-28-2007, 03:28 PM

No, you are right.

Just for those that will not or can can not pay for it.

infa · 08-28-2007, 03:30 PM

Dabbler wrote:

Oh my god they ruined the game again!!!
This is the 4th or 5th time they ruined the game and everyone had to quit since I started in June.....

it is amazing how many "ends" the games i've played over the years have had. yet every one of them (even Horizons!!!) is still running...

Talz · 08-28-2007, 03:30 PM

Dabbler wrote:

Oh my god they ruined the game again!!!
This is the 4th or 5th time they ruined the game and everyone had to quit since I started in June.....

If you haven't signed up for sky falling insurance yet you really should. It falls a lot.

Geothe · 08-28-2007, 03:31 PM

Hey genious.

You wont have to pay a darn thing if you dont want to.If you would actually do a minute's worth of research instead of squeeling like a stuck pig you would see that the rewards will also drop *gasp* IN GAME *gasp*

So save your dollars and farm away instead. And quit whining.

Leatherneck · 08-28-2007, 03:31 PM

JackAll wrote:

No, you are right.
Just for those that will not or can can not pay for it.

That's inaccurate. Many people couldn't care less one way or the other whether they get that card or not. So saying the game is over for anyone who will not or cannot pay for it is incorrect.

Further, booster packs will drop from mobs, albeit rarely.

Kimage · 08-28-2007, 03:41 PM

TIME

Let me spell it out for you again....

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Give it some - its only in Beta - and guess what when the actual game kinks are worked out these items will end up on the broker and you can spend your plat on them. Granted the power elixer is gonna be in the 100's of platage.. but come on it is only castable once in 24 hours. If it was any more often then MAYBE I would complain. But really - that is only once in every raid. They are REALLY REALLY RARE! There are people who have already paid hundreds and hundreds of dollars trying to get one and still haven't.

Patience please.

Jukol · 08-28-2007, 03:42 PM

Dabbler wrote:

Oh my god they ruined the game again!!!
This is the 4th or 5th time they ruined the game and everyone had to quit since I started in June.....

Oh come on, it's at least the 6th or 7th since June... SMILEY

To the OP:Nobody, except maybe the most brain-dead, ultra-hardcore, "adequate and optimum are synonyms", imbecile raid/guild leader, is going to require raid members to have these items before allowing them to raid, and they even that kind of over the top min/maxer isn't going to force raid members to spend RL money on them.In short: These Items Will Not Be Required. By Anyone.Besides the fact that not everyone will win these items, not everyone is even going to play LoN. I've not played it yet, but I highly doubt that I will. I've never been into those kind of games.

JackAll · 08-28-2007, 03:43 PM

Geothe wrote:

Hey genious.
You wont have to pay a darn thing if you dont want to.If you would actually do a minute's worth of research instead of squeeling like a stuck pig you would see that the rewards will also drop *gasp* IN GAME *gasp*
So save your dollars and farm away instead. And quit whining.

See now this is how you post on a MB

God I wish ppl had more guts on the official board

That asside SMILEY

It helps that they drop in game, I will give you that SMILEY

Lithran · 08-28-2007, 03:44 PM

All items are no trade in game.Mind you. You can trade the cards with someone in the LoN client. But how many folks are going to trade 30plat in game and hope that that person gives them the card in LoN?added: Oh and to clear up. The items will not drop in game. The packs will. But that pack will only give you a % chance to WIN a redeemable item and even then you don't get to choose it. So you can get a pack, but does not mean you get an item.

Talz · 08-28-2007, 03:46 PM

JackAll wrote:

Geothe wrote:
Hey genious.
You wont have to pay a darn thing if you dont want to.If you would actually do a minute's worth of research instead of squeeling like a stuck pig you would see that the rewards will also drop *gasp* IN GAME *gasp*
So save your dollars and farm away instead. And quit whining.
See now this is how you post on a MB
God I wish ppl had more guts on the official board
That asside " />
It helps that they drop in game, I will give you that " />

Oh it has less to do with a lack of guts and more to do with not taking baseless rants seriously.

Spyderbite · 08-28-2007, 03:54 PM

Raiding sucks.Buh Bye.

ScaledMystic · 08-28-2007, 03:55 PM

Why oh why is all new content lamented by these kinds of people? If they had their way, all we'd have is the old level 1-50 stuff, complete with the plain-vanilla archetypes to level 20 thing, and LOTS and LOTS of those tedious, boring group-required-unless-20-levels-above-them and nondeletable "hallmark" access quests.

I still hate those things. I had one floating in journal for literally years and finally cleared it.

Kane · 08-28-2007, 04:37 PM

ScaledMystic wrote:

Why oh why is all new content lamented by these kinds of people? If they had their way, all we'd have is the old level 1-50 stuff, complete with the plain-vanilla archetypes to level 20 thing, and LOTS and LOTS of those tedious, boring group-required-unless-20-levels-above-them and nondeletable "hallmark" access quests.
I still hate those things. I had one floating in journal for literally years and finally cleared it.

Gotta agree here, there's always one to whine!

08-28-2007, 03:08 PM	#5
liveja General Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends Posts: 4,793	I've stated my strong objections to LoN in the past, I'm not going to re-hash them here. I will say, though, that the whole thing is pretty easy to ignore, & with that in mind -- & the fact that I'd miss my guildies ever so much if I cancelled my account -- I've decided it's not worth cancelling over. I just won't bother with it. __________________

08-28-2007, 03:10 PM	#6
Miss_Jackie Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 354	Flaye@Mistmoore wrote: I've stated my strong objections to LoN in the past, I'm not going to re-hash them here. I will say, though, that the whole thing is pretty easy to ignore, & with that in mind -- & the fact that I'd miss my guildies ever so much if I cancelled my account -- I've decided it's not worth cancelling over. I just won't bother with it. My guildies are the biggest reason why I enjoy EQ2. I have no opinion on LoN. Haven't played it much though.. shrug

08-28-2007, 03:15 PM	#8
Miss_Jackie Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 354	JackAll wrote: It is not so much the items that are the problem so much as you have to pay hundreds of dollars for them SOE isn't putting a gun to your head to purchase them.

08-28-2007, 03:18 PM	#12
Miss_Jackie Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 354	JackAll wrote: Yes they are. Dont kid your self. They will be required for high end raiding and raiding guilds If you don't like it, move then on. Jesus. More playing, less complaining.

08-28-2007, 03:20 PM	#13
Leatherneck Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 697	JackAll wrote: LoN will be the end of EQ2 No, it won't. And even if it does become "required" for high-end raiding....that won't be the end of EQ2.

08-28-2007, 02:54 PM	#1
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	For me at least. I mean have you seen those items? That mana item in particular is [Removed for Content] up the game. Give it a few months and that item will be used to make the really hard encounters easier. That will result in SoE making the encounters harder and in turn making the items mandatory for raiders. Oops, there goes the level playing field and equal opportunity. This I find to be completely unacceptable The worst part is the there will be no way to nerf the items later. People paid real money for them

08-28-2007, 02:56 PM	#2
Lithran Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 268	Hmm. Raid lasts 3+ hours. Items last 30 minutes with a 24 hour recast. Yeah that will really really change the game dynamics.Bye. Sorry your leaving the game for fluff items.

08-28-2007, 03:05 PM	#3
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	If an item that grants you 100% mana and can be used in combat is your idea of a fluff item, what is an uber item?

08-28-2007, 03:07 PM	#4
Miss_Jackie Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 354	Well, I'm just gonna say this, before some random schmuck steps in:"Can I has your stuff?"snicker

08-28-2007, 03:14 PM	#7
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	It is not so much the items that are the problem so much as you have to pay hundreds of dollars for them

08-28-2007, 03:16 PM	#9
infa Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 67	like most things in life, you have to learn to base enjoyment on your self.if it's always about being on a "level playing field" you'll always be sorely disappointed in the end.there's always someone stronger, faster, better.you play basketball at the park with your friends because you enjoy it. you don't say "i'm not going to play basketball anymore because i can never be as good as (insert a nba player here)".eq2 should be no different. play it because you enjoy it for what it is. if you can't, then it's time to move on.

08-28-2007, 03:17 PM	#10
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	Yes they are. Dont kid your self. They will be required for high end raiding and raiding guilds

08-28-2007, 03:22 PM	#14
Talz General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 418	JackAll wrote: Yes they are. Dont kid your self. They will be required for high end raiding and raiding guilds I want to see your numbers. How many have you been able to acquire in beta? You must be getting them every twenty minutes to be able to say that it will be a realistic requirement.I bet you don't have any numbers though and this is just really about someone else getting a mount you want.

08-28-2007, 03:23 PM	#15
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	No, you are right. Just for those that will not or can can not pay for it.

08-28-2007, 03:23 PM	#16
Miss_Jackie Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 354	Leatherneck wrote: JackAll wrote: LoN will be the end of EQ2 No, it won't. And even if it does become "required" for high-end raiding....that won't be the end of EQ2. Exactly. There's more to EQ2 than raiding.

08-28-2007, 03:26 PM	#17
Khamul Server: Nektulos Guild: Retribution Rank: Senior Member Guardian Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 58	Oh my god they ruined the game again!!! This is the 4th or 5th time they ruined the game and everyone had to quit since I started in June.....

08-28-2007, 03:28 PM	#18
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	No, you are right. Just for those that will not or can can not pay for it.

08-28-2007, 03:30 PM	#19
infa Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 67	Dabbler wrote: Oh my god they ruined the game again!!! This is the 4th or 5th time they ruined the game and everyone had to quit since I started in June..... it is amazing how many "ends" the games i've played over the years have had. yet every one of them (even Horizons!!!) is still running...

08-28-2007, 03:31 PM	#21
Geothe Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,098	Hey genious. You wont have to pay a darn thing if you dont want to.If you would actually do a minute's worth of research instead of squeeling like a stuck pig you would see that the rewards will also drop gasp IN GAME gasp So save your dollars and farm away instead. And quit whining. __________________ Smed: We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. Smed: 5) This [LoN] is not some slippery slope towards selling items directly in EQ & EQ II. Lie #3: Station Cash. Enough Said.

08-28-2007, 03:31 PM	#22
Leatherneck Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 697	JackAll wrote: No, you are right. Just for those that will not or can can not pay for it. That's inaccurate. Many people couldn't care less one way or the other whether they get that card or not. So saying the game is over for anyone who will not or cannot pay for it is incorrect. Further, booster packs will drop from mobs, albeit rarely.

08-28-2007, 03:41 PM	#23
Kimage Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 330	TIME Let me spell it out for you again.... T I M E !!!! Give it some - its only in Beta - and guess what when the actual game kinks are worked out these items will end up on the broker and you can spend your plat on them. Granted the power elixer is gonna be in the 100's of platage.. but come on it is only castable once in 24 hours. If it was any more often then MAYBE I would complain. But really - that is only once in every raid. They are REALLY REALLY RARE! There are people who have already paid hundreds and hundreds of dollars trying to get one and still haven't. Patience please. __________________

08-28-2007, 03:42 PM	#24
Jukol Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 33	Dabbler wrote: Oh my god they ruined the game again!!! This is the 4th or 5th time they ruined the game and everyone had to quit since I started in June..... Oh come on, it's at least the 6th or 7th since June... To the OP:Nobody, except maybe the most brain-dead, ultra-hardcore, "adequate and optimum are synonyms", imbecile raid/guild leader, is going to require raid members to have these items before allowing them to raid, and they even that kind of over the top min/maxer isn't going to force raid members to spend RL money on them.In short: These Items Will Not Be Required. By Anyone.Besides the fact that not everyone will win these items, not everyone is even going to play LoN. I've not played it yet, but I highly doubt that I will. I've never been into those kind of games.

08-28-2007, 03:43 PM	#25
JackAll Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 282	Geothe wrote: Hey genious. You wont have to pay a darn thing if you dont want to.If you would actually do a minute's worth of research instead of squeeling like a stuck pig you would see that the rewards will also drop gasp IN GAME gasp So save your dollars and farm away instead. And quit whining. See now this is how you post on a MB God I wish ppl had more guts on the official board That asside It helps that they drop in game, I will give you that

08-28-2007, 03:44 PM	#26
Lithran Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 268	All items are no trade in game.Mind you. You can trade the cards with someone in the LoN client. But how many folks are going to trade 30plat in game and hope that that person gives them the card in LoN?added: Oh and to clear up. The items will not drop in game. The packs will. But that pack will only give you a % chance to WIN a redeemable item and even then you don't get to choose it. So you can get a pack, but does not mean you get an item.

08-28-2007, 03:46 PM	#27
Talz General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 418	JackAll wrote: Geothe wrote: Hey genious. You wont have to pay a darn thing if you dont want to.If you would actually do a minute's worth of research instead of squeeling like a stuck pig you would see that the rewards will also drop gasp IN GAME gasp So save your dollars and farm away instead. And quit whining. See now this is how you post on a MB God I wish ppl had more guts on the official board That asside " /> It helps that they drop in game, I will give you that " /> Oh it has less to do with a lack of guts and more to do with not taking baseless rants seriously.

08-28-2007, 03:54 PM	#28
Spyderbite Server: Venekor Guild: Dark Vengeance Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 4,262	Raiding sucks.Buh Bye.

08-28-2007, 03:55 PM	#29
ScaledMystic Defender Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 31	Why oh why is all new content lamented by these kinds of people? If they had their way, all we'd have is the old level 1-50 stuff, complete with the plain-vanilla archetypes to level 20 thing, and LOTS and LOTS of those tedious, boring group-required-unless-20-levels-above-them and nondeletable "hallmark" access quests. I still hate those things. I had one floating in journal for literally years and finally cleared it.

08-28-2007, 04:37 PM	#30
Kane Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dorset, England Posts: 55	ScaledMystic wrote: Why oh why is all new content lamented by these kinds of people? If they had their way, all we'd have is the old level 1-50 stuff, complete with the plain-vanilla archetypes to level 20 thing, and LOTS and LOTS of those tedious, boring group-required-unless-20-levels-above-them and nondeletable "hallmark" access quests. I still hate those things. I had one floating in journal for literally years and finally cleared it. Gotta agree here, there's always one to whine! __________________ Cutlass Jack, Level 80 Swashbuckler, Splitpaw Loxton Lightning, Level 70 Fury, Splitpaw Kain, CL90 Commando, Star Wars Galaxies Carfax, Level 50 Cleric, DAoC KaneTheGoth, Level 968 Adventurer, The Realm Online