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Unread 07-11-2007, 09:10 PM   #1
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I saw a couple of assertions recently that have me wondering.

Rijacki (whom I would consider a regular poster on this board) acknowledged that he only has one L70 crafter (and some alts who are slowly moving along).

Valdeglerion (whom I would also consider a regular poster on this board) said he thought that most of the posters here had maxed out their crafters.

So which is it?  Do the posters here for the most part have their crafters maxed out? 

You don't need to have 9 L70 crafters to be maxed out.  But of the crafters you use regularly (whether 1 or 4 or 7), how many are at L70 and holding for the Kunark expansion?

I wouldn't say I am anywhere near maxed.  I will probably only use 5 of my 9 crafters with any regularity, but I only have one L70 (my tailor) at the moment.

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Unread 07-11-2007, 09:53 PM   #2
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I came back to the game about 2 months ago now, at that time I started all the remaining classes I had to get (6 of them) they are now just entering the 40's.  The other 3 are 70's.  I wouldn't say I use them regularly though, the prov had so much stock made up to get to 70 it'll be past new expansion before I use it all.  Plus I use crafters to keep myself self sufficient so unless I (or my guild) need something they don't get touched.
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Unread 07-11-2007, 10:12 PM   #3
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  • 70 Tailor (been 70 for at least 4 months?)
  • 70 Alchemist / Destroyer of lvl 52 junk (transmuter)
  • 68 Sage (yeah, despite the whole pristine bonus "bull&quotSMILEY
  • 59 Provisoner
  • 32 Woodworker/20 skill Tinkerer  ( I think I don't use her that much because I miss the Fletcher Title )

The hubby has the rest of the crafters but his highest is his Armorer, who is lvl 63. They are all used to supply our Alts needs and the hubby is grinding his armorer up to be able to craft his first full set of Armor to wear.  He refuses to ding lvl 62 till he finishes his set of armor. SMILEY

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Unread 07-11-2007, 10:14 PM   #4
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dartie wrote:

I saw a couple of assertions recently that have me wondering.

Rijacki (whom I would consider a regular poster on this board) acknowledged that he only has one L70 crafter (and some alts who are slowly moving along).

Valdeglerion (whom I would also consider a regular poster on this board) said he thought that most of the posters here had maxed out their crafters.

So which is it?  Do the posters here for the most part have their crafters maxed out? 

You don't need to have 9 L70 crafters to be maxed out.  But of the crafters you use regularly (whether 1 or 4 or 7), how many are at L70 and holding for the Kunark expansion?

I wouldn't say I am anywhere near maxed.  I will probably only use 5 of my 9 crafters with any regularity, but I only have one L70 (my tailor) at the moment.

Psst, Rijacki is a she.  SMILEY Depending on definitions, I'm either very maxxed, or very not.   SMILEY My "main" crafting army consists of four level 70 crafters (carpenter, tailor, provisioner, alchemist). One of those is 70/70 adventurer/crafter (and 327 transmuter), another is 69/70 (and 200-something tinker).  However, given the nature of what I do, I've got at least one crafting alt on my primary server for every single tradeskill, so that I can check stuff out firsthand.  The "late bloomers" are 40 weaponsmith, 42 armorsmith and 48 woodworker.  I once in a while also break out my token evil folks, who are a 50 jeweler and a 58 sage.  Note that all of these, other than the provisioner, who is a 20-tanksomethingorother, are also used for adventuring as the mood strikes me. As long as I can help out my guildmates here and there, and have some fun, well, I'll level the lower alts as I feel like it.  SMILEY
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Unread 07-11-2007, 10:45 PM   #5
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None of mine are 70 right now. The sage, alchemist and jeweler are 60, tailor and woodworker are in the late 50s, provisioner, weaponsmith and carpenter are in the low 50s and my armorsmith is tier 3 still since my guild already has a main armorsmith. From what I've seen, there are a lot of crafters who have maxed their main and might have some alts, or just decided to concentrate only on that trade. I would say from what people have said in threads and indicated in signatures, that's probably the majority of those who actively post.
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Unread 07-11-2007, 10:49 PM   #6
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My goal is for all my gals to be level 70 by the time ROK comes out. 4 down, 5 to go.
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Unread 07-11-2007, 11:54 PM   #7
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Just what's in my sig...which I update as the three which are left gain in levels. But right now I'm holding off leveling the WS, WW, and Carpy until GU37 when the writ xp goes live. SMILEY I did have an Armourer but when a guildee surpassed mine, they took over as guild Armourer.
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Unread 07-12-2007, 12:11 AM   #8
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I have;

70 Jeweler / 120 Transmuter

70 Carpenter

70 Sage

70 Provisioner

70 Wood Worker

43 Tailor 

40 Armourer

33 Alchemist / 65 Tinkerer

30 Weaponsmith (will probably stay at 30)

They are the legacy of the Nektolus Server (very quiet in my time zone). I moved all toons to Najena during the recent free transfers and now find I have very little time to craft. I will have my Congy maxed by RoK (currently 67) and feel that they are the best harvesting toon for agro zones (send the tank pet in while you harvest raws, then kill the mob) but I also need to get her to 350 Tinkerer so I also have FD when things go wrong.

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Unread 07-12-2007, 12:12 AM   #9
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All capped including tinkering and transmuting and all but the main (woodworker) capped on faction(oldest guy and I hated old writs because of timers and "shaped").
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Unread 07-12-2007, 01:12 AM   #10
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It really doesn't say anything about a player whether they have one 70 crafter or multiples or even if they only have 1 character at all.  Someone can even be playing every day since release and still not be 70 in anything if they're not concerned about leveling. It doesn't mean that person is any less involved in the game or "doing it wrong", they're just doing it different. I'm also an RPer.  I've had characters set aside because the RP reason I had for them fizzled or got.. umm.. altered.  Not just in EQ2 but in other games before, too. Motivations in the game don't have to be the same for every player for each individual player to have fun.  My boyfriend is quest obsessed enough so that he's doing -all- of the old book quests that he bought ages ago.  Killing endless greys drives me buggy.  Camping something for too long (like the last bouncer) drives me nuts.  I'm distractable.  Alchemy in the early days held my interest.  Each time alchemy has changed I've found stuff I enjoy about it again even if it takes a bit of time to do so.  I haven't really sustained that kind of... umm.. motivation for my other crafting.  Having fun in the game is really -all- that it's about.  It's a game.  It's entertainment.  It's supposed to be fun, not a task you're required to do in order to have some fleeting renown. (oh.. and yeah.. I'm a she.  definately a she.  very definately a she *laugh*).
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Unread 07-12-2007, 02:43 AM   #11
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Greetings, Dartie

I am a level 69 tailor with a few steps to go to 70. That ding will be my first ever "woohoo I'm at the top" event. I have a provisioner who's at 51. I really need her to cook better food for me, but what'a girl to do, there's only 24 hours in the day and in between tailoring and my job as a warden, there's little elves to tend to and laundry to be done. And even sleep a little. 

The other crafters I have (alchemist - made because I reckoned it would fit in with her character; sage - because I have all mage/priest characters and wanted to make at least some of my own spells; woodworker - because I'd been saving up almost an entire library of advanced woodworker books, ROFL!! and because fletching is racial trait of wood elves and I'd already picked the tailoring one with my main wood elf) are left in the twenties and rarely played. So much to do, so little time.

If it hadn't been for the difficulty harvesting materials for quite some time, I would have spent much more tailoring. But when you're forced to take a break every so often because you run out of materials and can't find more, then it's difficult getting your work done. And besides from that, levelling means little to me besides the ability to make things that I want or need to make. It's just a number. It says little about my dedication to my craft. Just as a level 40 adventurer can be much more dedicated and have spent a lot longer time playing than a level 70 adventurer. It's in the what, how and why's of the things you do.

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Unread 07-12-2007, 03:47 AM   #12
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Hiya, I have a L70 Provi, (she's also 131 transmuting), followed by a slew of upcoming crafters...but not quite near being maxed yet.  Jeweler is 40, carp. is 31 (or so), and my alchy is...gah I can't remember as it's very late, but she's a baby too. 
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Unread 07-12-2007, 04:55 AM   #13
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I have Carpenter/weaponsmith/Jeweller/Alchemist/Provisioner all at 70 and Transmuter at 350.

Also have tailor and sage in 60's. And Woodworker at 50 something. My armourer got into the teens and sort of stalled :p and for some reason just can't bring myself to start the tinkerer grind!

I seem to level in spurts. Will suddenly get a month where I just hit the tradeskills, then leave the grind for a couple of months.

I very rarely craft with my weaponsmith, although he was my first to cap (when cap was 50 and when it was 60)

Alchie gets used quite often, mainly for poisons/potions. jeweller a little less so.

I craft quite a bit with my provi, but my carpenter is always my favourite (and is used a lot as he is also my broker toon)

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Unread 07-12-2007, 06:37 AM   #14
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I have
  • Jeweler 64 / Transmuter 127
  • Woodworker 48 / Tinker 11
  • Tailor 52
  • Alchemist 54
  • Carpenter 34
  • Provisioner 31
  • Artisan 9
I just about stopped crafting for several months after LU24. My jeweler sometimes makes stuff for my alts, and sometimes stocks up on resistance jewelry for sale.  He still has several level 64 prisitines to get so I expect him to get to 65 within a month or so. My woodworker sells a fair amount of arrows and totems, and I'd like to get her to 49 for the invis totems and then 50 for the FD quest. My tailor is the one I most want to level currently as my fury has just reached 52. I got him to 52 last weekend. 53 will be a very good level for him. However he does need a lot of raws to level. Mostly I make bags which do sell for a good profit. My alchemist will probably get to 55 fairly quickly when I get around to using up the rest of her level 54 prisitines. I recently moved 2 of my toons to larger status housing, and my carpenter got several levels from making items for them. I still need a few items for one of them, and 35 should be good for the larger boxes, so I expect to get him to 35 soon. My provisioner has been catching up a bit due to the recent changes. I normally only make provisions for my other toons, though they also buy some when they need level appropiate stuff. I stocked up recently so it depends on when the mood next takes me on when she levels up again. My most recent toon got to level 9 with 17 minutes crafting doing the initial crafting quests. None of the other three classes apeals to me to I haven't chosen one for her.
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Unread 07-12-2007, 08:53 AM   #15
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I have all my crafters over 40 and a few over 50, I started my own guild so I could pass raws easily between them (different factions and alignments). Using only tradeskill writs when I had no pristine bonus options, I have levelled the guild to level 18 (no HQ or city writs by adventure classes). My aim is a level 30 guild and all crafters at 70. AllI have learnt so far, is armorer and weaponsmith the hardest to level, as they need raws (feyiron, fulginate), that seem more like rares on my server SMILEY
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Unread 07-12-2007, 10:52 AM   #16
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Woodworker level 67.  This is my only crafter so I have no maxed crafters.
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Unread 07-12-2007, 11:22 AM   #17
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I have one level 70 crafter: a woodworker (the character in my signature).  I enjoy running writs to the point of neglecting leveling the others: 17days, 8 hours, 29 min tradeskill time played with almost 352,000 items crafted and over 720,000 GSP contributed.  With the woodworker I usually end up completing between 5 and 20 writs a night.  This is the only character that might come close to being called maxed, although I see no need to level transmuting beyond the point where I can transmute the items my 70 woodworker/34 ranger can loot.

The others: a 38 provisioner, a 40 tailor, a 40 armorer, and a 50 jeweler (who has yet to attempted a level 49 or 50 combine).  They, excluding the provisioner, were created to use the rares I harvested and to help equip my ranger.  I hate selling an item when I can craft something with it. 

I have only sporadically logged on the alts to grind for XP, preferring to just craft what I need to replace on the broker.  Both the jeweler and armorer have over 1 day of tradeskill time; the majority of which was spent replacing sold items for the broker.  Often they are crafting lower tier recipes for little to no XP.

The provisioner is the only one that I made a concerted effort to level, and that was just to catch up to the others as he got off to a late start.  But I was pleased to find I could make 6 stacks of food/drink an hour, providing enough for all my characters to use; and have additional to sell.

Between restocking the broker and timed writs, I usually craft between 50 and 100 combines a night.  I have never felt the need to rush all my characters to 70 and then ‘get back to the game', as crafting, selling, and harvesting are the aspects of the game I most frequently choose to play.

I am looking forward to leveling my woodworker again, although the others might not see any play time for weeks.  Particularly if I can find safe places in which a 34 ranger can harvest in tier 8.  I harvest all my commons in tier 1 to 6, but find it is better to buy tier 7 harvests.

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Unread 07-12-2007, 11:23 AM   #18
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Not that I am a very regular poster...but...

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Unread 07-12-2007, 11:33 AM   #19
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I have: 70 Provisioner/45 Fury 70 Alchemist/38 Troubador 64 Tailor/70 Monk 55 Jeweler/34 Assassin 54 Carpenter/20 Wizard 37 Sage/24 Warden Plus I have two accounts, and I also have several other characters I've begun to level up in each of the other crafts -- but they're very low-level at this point.  Leveling my characters has always been a somewhat low priority for me.  I just let it happen as it happens.
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Unread 07-12-2007, 11:36 AM   #20
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Aside from the four listed in my sig, I also have a 40 Armorer and have leveled my g/f's Alchemist and Jeweler to 64

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Unread 07-12-2007, 11:41 AM   #21
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My main (Tailor) is 70 is my only one maxed out. I have 2 more: 63 Woodworker and 65 Alchemist on hold while I level up my 51 Jeweler to replace my hubby's (he wants to reroll.) So I will end up with 4 or 5 before the expansion in November. At lower levels I have a 33 Prov and a 31 Carpenter who is working on my new house  I have started leveling her up too after a long time in mothballs. She might end up 70 eventually. My husband has a 70 Prov, 68 Jeweler and a 68 Armorer. Also a 48 Sage and a few lower levels.
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Unread 07-12-2007, 11:47 AM   #22
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dartie wrote:

I saw a couple of assertions recently that have me wondering.

Rijacki (whom I would consider a regular poster on this board) acknowledged that he only has one L70 crafter (and some alts who are slowly moving along).

Valdeglerion (whom I would also consider a regular poster on this board) said he thought that most of the posters here had maxed out their crafters.

So which is it?  Do the posters here for the most part have their crafters maxed out? 

You don't need to have 9 L70 crafters to be maxed out.  But of the crafters you use regularly (whether 1 or 4 or 7), how many are at L70 and holding for the Kunark expansion?

I wouldn't say I am anywhere near maxed.  I will probably only use 5 of my 9 crafters with any regularity, but I only have one L70 (my tailor) at the moment.

Seems that a great majority of replies do indeed have at least one maxed out toon in crafting if not multiples. Those that do not seem to be in T7 or close to it at this point. So now comes the question - what does that information mean in the context of what will be done with it?

Things that make you go hmmm.....

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Unread 07-12-2007, 11:58 AM   #23
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I have 2 T7, 1 T6, 3 T5 and 2 sages at T4 almost T5.  I haven't bothered with a weaponsmith and also have a 314 tinker and 120 transmuter.

These aren't just pure crafters and I like to level adventure levels. The 2 T7 are about maxed in both.  I craft mostly to gear my main and twink somewhat.  I enjoy the game with better gear and skills/spells.  I also am working on doing WOs to level my guild to 60.  I don't think that even if I get all those crafters to max while doing work orders that we will be 60 but it's not just my guild.  My current goals are maxing tinkering which at this point is just a grind and getting the other crafters as high as I can while getting GSP.  I don't mess with rares to broker items on cap raised expansions.   The prices are out of control.   Orders are better.

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Unread 07-12-2007, 12:03 PM   #24
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I actually only have two maxed crafters, my Woodowrker and Provisioner.  My Sage is 69, and my Weaponsmith is in her mid 50's.
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Unread 07-12-2007, 12:07 PM   #25
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NiamiDenMother wrote:
dartie wrote:

I saw a couple of assertions recently that have me wondering.

Rijacki (whom I would consider a regular poster on this board) acknowledged that he only has one L70 crafter (and some alts who are slowly moving along).

Valdeglerion (whom I would also consider a regular poster on this board) said he thought that most of the posters here had maxed out their crafters.

So which is it?  Do the posters here for the most part have their crafters maxed out? 

You don't need to have 9 L70 crafters to be maxed out.  But of the crafters you use regularly (whether 1 or 4 or 7), how many are at L70 and holding for the Kunark expansion?

I wouldn't say I am anywhere near maxed.  I will probably only use 5 of my 9 crafters with any regularity, but I only have one L70 (my tailor) at the moment.

Psst, Rijacki is a she.  SMILEY Depending on definitions, I'm either very maxxed, or very not.   SMILEY My "main" crafting army consists of four level 70 crafters (carpenter, tailor, provisioner, alchemist). One of those is 70/70 adventurer/crafter (and 327 transmuter), another is 69/70 (and 200-something tinker).  However, given the nature of what I do, I've got at least one crafting alt on my primary server for every single tradeskill, so that I can check stuff out firsthand.  The "late bloomers" are 40 weaponsmith, 42 armorsmith and 48 woodworker.  I once in a while also break out my token evil folks, who are a 50 jeweler and a 58 sage.  Note that all of these, other than the provisioner, who is a 20-tanksomethingorother, are also used for adventuring as the mood strikes me. As long as I can help out my guildmates here and there, and have some fun, well, I'll level the lower alts as I feel like it.  SMILEY

Yes, but Denmother, you are a special kind of crafter.  You take things to a whole 'nother level of crazy!

I submit my proof in the form of links!

Exhibit A Exhibit B Exhibit C Exhibit D

I rest my case. SMILEY  (Such a small appearance for such a large part of the involvement of the Tradeskill community of both EQ1 + 2. hehe)

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Unread 07-12-2007, 12:22 PM   #26
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I don't post much, but I read almost everyday.

My main character is a 70 Swash/70 Jeweler/340 ish Tinkerer.

My only other tradeskill character is my 33 Fury/35 Sage.

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I started Purrgo weaponsmithing in the old days and since I don't grind I didn't quite reach max before DoF came out. But when it did I hustled and leveled through into T6 to cash in on the buying frenzy that every expansion brings. I was 60 not too long after. And I reached 70 a few weeks after the cap was raised again (with KoS? it's late, can't remember right now for some reason). A couple WS's on Unrest beat me but I was in the first few to the top. I started leveling my Tailor sometime in the DoF days, or just before, and reached T7 before GU24. I think I got some of my levels in T7 shortly after GU24 but I can't remember. Been 70 tailor since GU24 timeframe, I believe. Can't remember when updates happened compared to expansions, so... might be getting that wrong. GU24 really [Removed for Content] me off so I took some time off from crafting. I used to craft all the time, do writs, etc. I spent more time in the crafting dungeon than out in the world, and I actually had a lot of fun at it. I worked the market, played the broker a bit, had repeat customers and was fairly well-known. People would look me up, saying their friend recommended me, etc. I mostly focused on custom orders, kept a stock of subs so I could make people's weapons while they waited, talked in the crafting channel a lot. Crafting really made this game engaging for me. My Paladin's adventure levels were always right in line with his Weaponsmith levels, so it's not like that's *all* I did (and I had a Warden that was usually about half as high adventure-wise, too). I just liked crafting, so I spent a lot of time doing it. Not so post-GU24. To be fair, after my initial disgust with GU24 subsided I leveled a jeweler from 1 to 70 to give the new single-combines system a full shot. I actually made more money selling common jewelry as I leveled the jeweler than all the prior stuff I did in this game to make money (mostly just after EoF release, so that's a little slanted, but... still valid). Yet despite making money hand-over-fist it was the most mind-numbing, boring, turn-me-off-to-EQ2 time I've ever spent. I actually liked leveling my transmuting more than I liked leveling the jeweler. I figure I spent around 70 to 80 real hours playing Goblin Invaders on Queen's Colony with a level-locked level 4 wizard to get transmuting fodder -- but those are better memories than leveling the jeweler. Memories of how much I liked the system pre-GU24 die hard. I honestly have no idea how I'd like the current system if I hadn't played in those days. I still craft with all three of my crafters. I typically only do work for my own chars, my guildies, and people that look me up/get referred to me/etc. Or if I'm bored or working my broker I'll answer calls in the channels, especially when someone has been asking for a while and it's apparent they're not finding anyone to help them (Weaponsmiths are a bit scarce on Unrest). I make my money nowadays selling my adventure loot, and playing the numbers game buying fodder off the broker, transmuting it and selling adornment raws. I find I have zero inclination to start any new crafters. I really don't like the system now, and between me, my wife, and one other guy in my guild we have all crafting classes at 70, so there's very little motivation for me (my guildie is working on all 9 to 70, so apparently there is for him...). I've been concentrating on questing, and getting my little guild organized enough to start doing small raids. And I've leveled a wizard, and had some of the most fun in the game with him so far. Glide is the shiznat, and I just recently got Manaburn... hehehe love it. I'm not sure what perspective having maxed crafters gives me compared to someone who hasn't reached 70, cause I've been "maxed" for so long now. I think there are a couple other important achievements that amount to paradigm shifts, that just reaching max level doesn't really do for you: getting to the point where you *know* the system, and having played during some of the different "stages" of the crafting system. I think both of those give a crafter more relevant experience and perspective than simply reaching 70. Which is why I thought to explain myself more verbosely above.
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YAY for a Lvl 70 Weaponsmith.....

awwwww.... good old Rubicite weapon time...... /sigh

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Unread 07-13-2007, 10:06 PM   #29
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I don't post much either but read almost every day.. 70 carpenter / 70 transmuter 70 alchemist 70 provo 54 jeweler / 52 tinkerer 51 tailor 52 woodworker   gonna try and see how many i can get to 70 before RoK ;p Sciari
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Hello,

My current crafting list consist of the following:

Provisioner 50 - Top 4 on Unrest overall, First on the Freeport side.  Then PvP was made and I retired and went to Nagafen, there I made the following:

Jeweler 70

Provisioner 40

Alchemist 40

Sage 40

Woodworker 40

Tailor 40

Armorer 40

Weaponsmith 30 - Next in line to get 40.

Carpenter 30

Those that play on a PvP server can relate to how tough it can be to gather resources and get advanced books.    That is why I level them 10 levels at a time and will proceed towards 70 on all of them.   I create my guild for the extra bank space and well I have gotten it to lvl 21 now on 95% PvP kills and the occasional HQ I stumble on.    Overall it is fun times for Crafting Elite. 

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