Emerald Raid Zone

R2Chie · 11-16-2006, 06:33 AM

Thanks for a massively huge crap zone... 3+ hours worth of clearing trash for nothing, we finally found a named and killed it only to get no chest, no aa xp etc.. (although it did give us a success timer and a 5 day lockout) the zone is to big - there is to much trash (copy and paste of faydark may have seemed a great idea - but please put content in the actual zone that is fun) we got 1 server discovery tonight and that was a body drop of - "horse meat" (which for the first time i havent let raid leader loot, after corpse getting in my way going unlooted for a while i looted it and it comes up in guildchat saying i discovered it..) apart from that - the zone is a complete joke grand loot tally: horse meat no chests about 3 body loots of 50 silver or something alot of naked folks suffice to say i just cannot wait for my 5 day timer to finish so i can re-enter this joyious zone of pure absoloute fun....................!! Whether this was intended or not, im not entirely sure but in reality my first experience of eof raiding almost drove me to prozac, 4 hours later (and 1 attempt on the final and only named we could find in zone the lvl 75 encounter led to the zone rushing us... looking around at the copious amounts of trash mobs left to clear we decided enough was enough) Thanks for a great zone... keep up the great work... the address you can send my prozac to are......

Message Edited by R2Chief2 on 11-15-2006 05:34 PM

Verm75 · 11-16-2006, 07:25 AM

score!

Aven Elonis · 11-16-2006, 07:55 AM

In beta, it was brought up that there were too many annoying trash mobs and too few named ( I think 5 total, if memory serves me right) in a zone that large.

Urglu · 11-16-2006, 08:57 AM

Agree with OP had exact same experience tonight. Got to a named finally only to have same result...no loot, but a lockout.

Ellestil · 11-16-2006, 11:29 AM

THe whole zone seems built wrong. Some trash mobs are harder than most KoS raid zones ( a badger for example in Emerald is tougher than named in Labs ). We killed a variety of mobs and not one chest dropped, at all. Some mob encounters are groups of 6 or so elites. Normally these type of encounter is just a bunch of heroics put together to make an elite encounter. Not this time, these guys were a linked group of 6 elites, and all of them AE'd like crazy. At another point, the tank pulled a rumbler, and I was far far back (none of my spells were within range to cast ), the rumbler used a raid wide AE that hit everyone regardless of range (down goes mage pet, no chance at all).

I understand that 5% of the entire population of EQ2 wants some almost impossible raid zones, but when you make zones like this, it's just frustrating for 95% of the other players. Spending 3 hours clearing god-like trash mobs for no loot is not fun. Even if you are in the 5% bracket of players.

Ellestil

FlintAH · 11-16-2006, 06:27 PM

Ellestil wrote:

THe whole zone seems built wrong. Some trash mobs are harder than most KoS raid zones ( a badger for example in Emerald is tougher than named in Labs ). We killed a variety of mobs and not one chest dropped, at all. Some mob encounters are groups of 6 or so elites. Normally these type of encounter is just a bunch of heroics put together to make an elite encounter. Not this time, these guys were a linked group of 6 elites, and all of them AE'd like crazy. At another point, the tank pulled a rumbler, and I was far far back (none of my spells were within range to cast ), the rumbler used a raid wide AE that hit everyone regardless of range (down goes mage pet, no chance at all).

I understand that 5% of the entire population of EQ2 wants some almost impossible raid zones, but when you make zones like this, it's just frustrating for 95% of the other players. Spending 3 hours clearing god-like trash mobs for no loot is not fun. Even if you are in the 5% bracket of players.

Ellestil

All EoF zones are supposed to be harder than the old raid zones. They are intended to be VERY difficult, most especially EH. I am pretty sure this is intended as THE end game zone.

pubear · 11-16-2006, 07:38 PM

if its the end game zone, which I can accept, then it should be dropping a bit more loot. Even deathtoll there is a chance at relic and velium and other stuff dropping off of even the trash. This person is as much complaining about the ridiculous lack of loot in addition to the difficulty of the mobs.

schrammy · 11-16-2006, 07:43 PM

There is hard and there is ridiculous.

the trash mobs in there have wat? 5billion HP?

not to mention the loottable an names missing.

Beragon · 11-16-2006, 09:39 PM

If you cant beat Eh then dont do it, Freethinker and Menace are the 2 that are kind of easy in EoF.

Its calld progress you need gear to beat EH towards the end, its not bad and not buggt. First 2 nameds are still to easy as in Beta already said, but rest works well.

@R2Chief , go move with your Guild towards Menace in Klak Ánon and or Freethinker and let Eh aslong you think its too hard, but dont complain you cant beat it on first run.

Petgroup · 11-16-2006, 09:54 PM

Named not giving AA/Loot but giving lockouts = Beta testing on Live ftw.

R2Chie · 11-16-2006, 10:11 PM

raiding guild and didnt expect to beat it on first run.... my complaint was more against the lack of loot and a zone filled with 5,000 trash mobs, 3-4 hours killing trash mobs for 0 loot, nada as in zilch...... one bit of horse meat, no chests no nothing we do find a named and beat it only to get no chest and no loot and no aa but a success timer of 5 days stop ranting about this being an end game zone, i and you shouldnt care.. are end game zones supposed to send 24 ppl to sleep ??

schrammy · 11-16-2006, 10:15 PM

Beragon wrote:

If you cant beat Eh then dont do it, Freethinker and Menace are the 2 that are kind of easy in EoF.

Its calld progress you need gear to beat EH towards the end, its not bad and not buggt. First 2 nameds are still to easy as in Beta already said, but rest works well.

@R2Chief , go move with your Guild towards Menace in Klak Ánon and or Freethinker and let Eh aslong you think its too hard, but dont complain you cant beat it on first run.

Please don't make pointless comments.

I never said we couldn't beat the zone. I complained about missing nameds (as in they were present in beta, but just not there on live)

And i complained about the loot, which is non-existent. (eg THERE WAS NO LOOT)

If we down a mob which is supposed to be "hard" like you put it, we should get some reward? don't we.

And the people in beta complaining it was too easy, exagerated abit. I'm not saying it was too hard in beta, but pple forget that haveing FULL AA and Beta buffed chars is not what they have on live.

I bet those peeps completely rearranged their aa for every zone (no clue if thats possible, wasnt on beta long enough to test that)

Lyndro-EQ2 · 11-16-2006, 11:14 PM

Its pretty hard for us to check for loot on a mob if you don't tell us what the name of the creature is.There was also a bug in the zone where when players would get charmed in one of the fights the creatures in the zone would start aggroing on each other. If that happened to you, you wouldn't be awarded loot (I'm not saying that is the case, but if you were hit by that bug, it would explain the lack of loot).EH is supposed to be hard, nearly impossible if you haven't worked your way up in the progression. Fighting in EH without full AAs, new top end equipment, and some nice adornments, is like fighting in deathtoll without being level 70.

Gungo · 11-16-2006, 11:23 PM

Raiding in EoF follows this progression

Menace-
freethinkers

MM inner sanctum

Emerald Halls

Pumkinheaded horseman

8 Avatars

Itemization wasnt really implemented in beta at least till the final week. Emerald Halls trash was fine IF they included at least 2 (hopefully 3-4) (8-9 total) more named. As is the ratio of trash to named is jacked. My advice do menace and freethinkers they both should be working and hopefully fully itemized.

EH was designed at least for fully fabled, 100AA's most adornents, etc. So they prolly figured they had time to finish itemizing it. Was the expansion ready for release, Yes. Is it completely finished, Nope. Odd though that none of the named spawned for you.

Lyndro-EQ2 · 11-16-2006, 11:37 PM

Itemization is done for the zone. If something isn't dropping loot it is a bug, and we'd like to figure out what caused it. :p (Unless it was the charm bug, in which case we already have)

Petgroup · 11-17-2006, 12:15 AM

Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:Itemization is done for the zone. If something isn't dropping loot it is a bug, and we'd like to figure out what caused it. :p (Unless it was the charm bug, in which case we already have)

If you knew about the charm bug, it would help if there was a post saying " There is an issue with xyz raid zone", don't get a lockout till this is fixed.Communication is key. No communication = posts like this and angry raiders that spent all this time when you knew about a bug preventing them from doing a zone.Sure Emerald Halls is "impossible" now but that doesn't mean we can try and get a feel for the zone. All we got was a 5 day lockout on a known bug by SoE.Any other stuff we should know about before we start blowing through 5 day lockouts?

Defender of Antonia · 11-17-2006, 12:20 AM

I belive the two named The poster was refering to would be The named wolf (Savage Fang maybe) and the named under the waterfall (Mistress something)

I doubt they were able to beat The Segmented Rumbler and both Woshi and the other named droped loot in Beta.

It's is odd though that these mobs would not have loot. same with trash as This was bugged multiple times throughout beta. Itemization was said to be done on this zone Saturday but after we came in Saturday after the Beta update There was still no loot on any Trash mobs and no Loot on the above two named. We proceeded to tell the entire raid to bug it again.

Shows That either

1. Someone did not bother reading any of the bug reports

2. They were read but ignored

3. They were read but SoE thought other things as a higher priority

Message Edited by Defender of Antonia on 11-16-2006 11:28 AM

Urglu · 11-17-2006, 12:21 AM

Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:
Its pretty hard for us to check for loot on a mob if you don't tell us what the name of the creature is.

There was also a bug in the zone where when players would get charmed in one of the fights the creatures in the zone would start aggroing on each other. If that happened to you, you wouldn't be awarded loot (I'm not saying that is the case, but if you were hit by that bug, it would explain the lack of loot).

EH is supposed to be hard, nearly impossible if you haven't worked your way up in the progression. Fighting in EH without full AAs, new top end equipment, and some nice adornments, is like fighting in deathtoll without being level 70.

Well we did pull the orange fairies (named and a couple adds) and I was charmed, and we were killed by half the mobs still alive in the zone. However, the loot prior to that was non existent.

Lyndro-EQ2 · 11-17-2006, 12:24 AM

We found out about the charm bug last night and it was fixed this morning, so its no longer a bug that you need to worry about.There was a bug where the rumbler event that could stop it from running to completion. We found that yesterday, it was fixed this morning.Thos are the only issues that we knew of with the zone, they were both found yesterday and fixed this morning.

R2Chie · 11-17-2006, 12:27 AM

Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:Its pretty hard for us to check for loot on a mob if you don't tell us what the name of the creature is.

Hi Lyndro, It was the rumbler - killed it and no loot and nothing happened so we just kept going. Is it intended to be 3,000 trash mobs with no loot, not even body loot in zone? SMILEY

makes for a very boring zone when your doing nothing but clearing trash for 3-4hrs (and it could have been more if we didnt decide just to call it a night)

Kreat · 11-17-2006, 12:47 AM

Rethink this zone plz. Not that it was too hard but so daaaamn boring (no loot, 1000 trashmobs with 4 millions hp etc etc etc), it was a 4 h long yawnfest :smileyindifferent:

We only had one shot at the endmob just because we were too bored to be arsed trying.

Was this ever tested?

Vorlak · 11-17-2006, 01:02 AM

Kreated wrote:

Rethink this zone plz. Not that it was too hard but so daaaamn boring (no loot, 1000 trashmobs with 4 millions hp etc etc etc), it was a 4 h long yawnfest :smileyindifferent:

We only had one shot at the endmob just because we were too bored to be arsed trying.

Was this ever tested?

yes, and the same complaints where what you are seeing now...

schrammy · 11-17-2006, 01:38 AM

Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:
We found out about the charm bug last night and it was fixed this morning, so its no longer a bug that you need to worry about.

There was a bug where the rumbler event that could stop it from running to completion. We found that yesterday, it was fixed this morning.

Thos are the only issues that we knew of with the zone, they were both found yesterday and fixed this morning.

We didnt get that charm bug. And we beat the stuff without aa and adornments, AND we didn't have a full raid. must mean we rock SMILEY (Honesty bids me to tell we just stopped at some point ie we didn't finish it for it sucked SMILEY )

I'll check in guild if someone has any names (might come up in parses if anyone did) if not we'll have to wait for lockout SMILEY , not to mention motivating peeps to get in there SMILEY

Gaige · 11-17-2006, 02:20 AM

pubear wrote:
if its the end game zone, which I can accept, then it should be dropping a bit more loot. Even deathtoll there is a chance at relic and velium and other stuff dropping off of even the trash. This person is as much complaining about the ridiculous lack of loot in addition to the difficulty of the mobs.

Being rewarded for killing trash is for losers and nubs. I'd rather not get 20 fabled out of a zone so I have nothing to farm in two weeks. Please leave it as is.

Kreated wrote:

Rethink this zone plz. Not that it was too hard but so daaaamn boring (no loot, 1000 trashmobs with 4 millions hp etc etc etc), it was a 4 h long yawnfest :smileyindifferent:

We only had one shot at the endmob just because we were too bored to be arsed trying.

If you guys are already pulling Wuoshi than I have no faith in EH to be the zone it was designed to be.

Message Edited by Gaige on 11-16-2006 01:25 PM

Mgunner · 11-17-2006, 03:03 AM

What's worse, 3rd floor of PPTR or this?

Please tell me it isn't that bad.

Message Edited by Mgunner on 11-16-2006 02:04 PM

R2Chie · 11-17-2006, 03:06 AM

please stop trying to derail the thread gaige... were all exstatic to the fact you think your fantastic, keep thinking it - i dont care.

Tazr · 11-17-2006, 03:27 AM

Gaige wrote:

pubear wrote:
if its the end game zone, which I can accept, then it should be dropping a bit more loot. Even deathtoll there is a chance at relic and velium and other stuff dropping off of even the trash. This person is as much complaining about the ridiculous lack of loot in addition to the difficulty of the mobs.

Being rewarded for killing trash is for losers and nubs. I'd rather not get 20 fabled out of a zone so I have nothing to farm in two weeks. Please leave it as is.

Kreated wrote:

Rethink this zone plz. Not that it was too hard but so daaaamn boring (no loot, 1000 trashmobs with 4 millions hp etc etc etc), it was a 4 h long yawnfest :smileyindifferent:

We only had one shot at the endmob just because we were too bored to be arsed trying.

If you guys are already pulling Wuoshi than I have no faith in EH to be the zone it was designed to be.

Message Edited by Gaige on 11-16-2006 01:25 PM

Is this a macro? And did Ishbu right it for you? o_O :smileyvery-happy:

Jvaloth · 11-17-2006, 03:56 AM

Gotta love the leetist pricks that think they are Gods of the world because they are in an uber raid guild. lol

I like them to 2 [Removed for Content] in a head butting content... kinda funny... but really sad.

R2Chie · 11-17-2006, 04:40 AM

Mgunner wrote:
What's worse, 3rd floor of PPTR or this?

Please tell me it isn't that bad.
Message Edited by Mgunner on 11-16-2006 02:04 PM

pptr has nothing on this place and the boredom you go through SMILEY

Gaige · 11-17-2006, 05:03 AM

R2Chief2 wrote:
please stop trying to derail the thread gaige...

were all exstatic to the fact you think your fantastic, keep thinking it - i dont care.

I'm on topic. I do not want the trash made easier, I do not want the trash to drop loot. On topic. I just disagree with you. If you want easy and fabled from trash, raid KoS.

11-16-2006, 06:33 AM	#1
R2Chie General Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 99	Thanks for a massively huge crap zone... 3+ hours worth of clearing trash for nothing, we finally found a named and killed it only to get no chest, no aa xp etc.. (although it did give us a success timer and a 5 day lockout) the zone is to big - there is to much trash (copy and paste of faydark may have seemed a great idea - but please put content in the actual zone that is fun) we got 1 server discovery tonight and that was a body drop of - "horse meat" (which for the first time i havent let raid leader loot, after corpse getting in my way going unlooted for a while i looted it and it comes up in guildchat saying i discovered it..) apart from that - the zone is a complete joke grand loot tally: horse meat no chests about 3 body loots of 50 silver or something alot of naked folks suffice to say i just cannot wait for my 5 day timer to finish so i can re-enter this joyious zone of pure absoloute fun....................!! Whether this was intended or not, im not entirely sure but in reality my first experience of eof raiding almost drove me to prozac, 4 hours later (and 1 attempt on the final and only named we could find in zone the lvl 75 encounter led to the zone rushing us... looking around at the copious amounts of trash mobs left to clear we decided enough was enough) Thanks for a great zone... keep up the great work... the address you can send my prozac to are...... Message Edited by R2Chief2 on 11-15-2006 05:34 PM __________________

11-16-2006, 07:25 AM	#2
Verm75 Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 8	score! __________________ __________________________________________________

11-16-2006, 11:29 AM	#5
Ellestil Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 142	THe whole zone seems built wrong. Some trash mobs are harder than most KoS raid zones ( a badger for example in Emerald is tougher than named in Labs ). We killed a variety of mobs and not one chest dropped, at all. Some mob encounters are groups of 6 or so elites. Normally these type of encounter is just a bunch of heroics put together to make an elite encounter. Not this time, these guys were a linked group of 6 elites, and all of them AE'd like crazy. At another point, the tank pulled a rumbler, and I was far far back (none of my spells were within range to cast ), the rumbler used a raid wide AE that hit everyone regardless of range (down goes mage pet, no chance at all). I understand that 5% of the entire population of EQ2 wants some almost impossible raid zones, but when you make zones like this, it's just frustrating for 95% of the other players. Spending 3 hours clearing god-like trash mobs for no loot is not fun. Even if you are in the 5% bracket of players. Ellestil __________________ It's not the damage that kills ya, it's the developer behind the damage program!

11-16-2006, 06:27 PM	#6
FlintAH Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 382	Ellestil wrote: THe whole zone seems built wrong. Some trash mobs are harder than most KoS raid zones ( a badger for example in Emerald is tougher than named in Labs ). We killed a variety of mobs and not one chest dropped, at all. Some mob encounters are groups of 6 or so elites. Normally these type of encounter is just a bunch of heroics put together to make an elite encounter. Not this time, these guys were a linked group of 6 elites, and all of them AE'd like crazy. At another point, the tank pulled a rumbler, and I was far far back (none of my spells were within range to cast ), the rumbler used a raid wide AE that hit everyone regardless of range (down goes mage pet, no chance at all). I understand that 5% of the entire population of EQ2 wants some almost impossible raid zones, but when you make zones like this, it's just frustrating for 95% of the other players. Spending 3 hours clearing god-like trash mobs for no loot is not fun. Even if you are in the 5% bracket of players. Ellestil All EoF zones are supposed to be harder than the old raid zones. They are intended to be VERY difficult, most especially EH. I am pretty sure this is intended as THE end game zone.

11-16-2006, 09:39 PM	#9
Beragon Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 55	If you cant beat Eh then dont do it, Freethinker and Menace are the 2 that are kind of easy in EoF. Its calld progress you need gear to beat EH towards the end, its not bad and not buggt. First 2 nameds are still to easy as in Beta already said, but rest works well. @R2Chief , go move with your Guild towards Menace in Klak Ánon and or Freethinker and let Eh aslong you think its too hard, but dont complain you cant beat it on first run. __________________ AdroÂ´Minon Class: Inquisitor "because its hard"

11-16-2006, 07:55 AM	#3
Aven Elonis Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 273	In beta, it was brought up that there were too many annoying trash mobs and too few named ( I think 5 total, if memory serves me right) in a zone that large.

11-16-2006, 08:57 AM	#4
Urglu Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 129	Agree with OP had exact same experience tonight. Got to a named finally only to have same result...no loot, but a lockout.

11-16-2006, 07:38 PM	#7
pubear Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 126	if its the end game zone, which I can accept, then it should be dropping a bit more loot. Even deathtoll there is a chance at relic and velium and other stuff dropping off of even the trash. This person is as much complaining about the ridiculous lack of loot in addition to the difficulty of the mobs.

11-16-2006, 07:43 PM	#8
schrammy Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 440	There is hard and there is ridiculous. the trash mobs in there have wat? 5billion HP? not to mention the loottable an names missing.

11-16-2006, 09:54 PM	#10
Petgroup Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 309	Named not giving AA/Loot but giving lockouts = Beta testing on Live ftw. __________________

11-16-2006, 10:11 PM	#11
R2Chie General Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 99	raiding guild and didnt expect to beat it on first run.... my complaint was more against the lack of loot and a zone filled with 5,000 trash mobs, 3-4 hours killing trash mobs for 0 loot, nada as in zilch...... one bit of horse meat, no chests no nothing we do find a named and beat it only to get no chest and no loot and no aa but a success timer of 5 days stop ranting about this being an end game zone, i and you shouldnt care.. are end game zones supposed to send 24 ppl to sleep ?? __________________

11-16-2006, 10:15 PM	#12
schrammy Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 440	Beragon wrote: If you cant beat Eh then dont do it, Freethinker and Menace are the 2 that are kind of easy in EoF. Its calld progress you need gear to beat EH towards the end, its not bad and not buggt. First 2 nameds are still to easy as in Beta already said, but rest works well. @R2Chief , go move with your Guild towards Menace in Klak Ánon and or Freethinker and let Eh aslong you think its too hard, but dont complain you cant beat it on first run. Please don't make pointless comments. I never said we couldn't beat the zone. I complained about missing nameds (as in they were present in beta, but just not there on live) And i complained about the loot, which is non-existent. (eg THERE WAS NO LOOT) If we down a mob which is supposed to be "hard" like you put it, we should get some reward? don't we. And the people in beta complaining it was too easy, exagerated abit. I'm not saying it was too hard in beta, but pple forget that haveing FULL AA and Beta buffed chars is not what they have on live. I bet those peeps completely rearranged their aa for every zone (no clue if thats possible, wasnt on beta long enough to test that)

11-16-2006, 11:14 PM	#13
Lyndro-EQ2 Lead Designer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 162	Its pretty hard for us to check for loot on a mob if you don't tell us what the name of the creature is.There was also a bug in the zone where when players would get charmed in one of the fights the creatures in the zone would start aggroing on each other. If that happened to you, you wouldn't be awarded loot (I'm not saying that is the case, but if you were hit by that bug, it would explain the lack of loot).EH is supposed to be hard, nearly impossible if you haven't worked your way up in the progression. Fighting in EH without full AAs, new top end equipment, and some nice adornments, is like fighting in deathtoll without being level 70.

11-16-2006, 11:23 PM	#14
Gungo Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 5,378	Raiding in EoF follows this progression Menace- freethinkers MM inner sanctum Emerald Halls Pumkinheaded horseman 8 Avatars Itemization wasnt really implemented in beta at least till the final week. Emerald Halls trash was fine IF they included at least 2 (hopefully 3-4) (8-9 total) more named. As is the ratio of trash to named is jacked. My advice do menace and freethinkers they both should be working and hopefully fully itemized. EH was designed at least for fully fabled, 100AA's most adornents, etc. So they prolly figured they had time to finish itemizing it. Was the expansion ready for release, Yes. Is it completely finished, Nope. Odd though that none of the named spawned for you.

11-16-2006, 11:37 PM	#15
Lyndro-EQ2 Lead Designer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 162	Itemization is done for the zone. If something isn't dropping loot it is a bug, and we'd like to figure out what caused it. :p (Unless it was the charm bug, in which case we already have)

11-17-2006, 12:15 AM	#16
Petgroup Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 309	Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:Itemization is done for the zone. If something isn't dropping loot it is a bug, and we'd like to figure out what caused it. :p (Unless it was the charm bug, in which case we already have) If you knew about the charm bug, it would help if there was a post saying " There is an issue with xyz raid zone", don't get a lockout till this is fixed.Communication is key. No communication = posts like this and angry raiders that spent all this time when you knew about a bug preventing them from doing a zone.Sure Emerald Halls is "impossible" now but that doesn't mean we can try and get a feel for the zone. All we got was a 5 day lockout on a known bug by SoE.Any other stuff we should know about before we start blowing through 5 day lockouts? __________________

11-17-2006, 12:20 AM	#17
Defender of Antonia Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 27	I belive the two named The poster was refering to would be The named wolf (Savage Fang maybe) and the named under the waterfall (Mistress something) I doubt they were able to beat The Segmented Rumbler and both Woshi and the other named droped loot in Beta. It's is odd though that these mobs would not have loot. same with trash as This was bugged multiple times throughout beta. Itemization was said to be done on this zone Saturday but after we came in Saturday after the Beta update There was still no loot on any Trash mobs and no Loot on the above two named. We proceeded to tell the entire raid to bug it again. Shows That either 1. Someone did not bother reading any of the bug reports 2. They were read but ignored 3. They were read but SoE thought other things as a higher priority Message Edited by Defender of Antonia on 11-16-2006 11:28 AM

11-17-2006, 12:21 AM	#18
Urglu Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 129	Lyndro-EQ2 wrote: Its pretty hard for us to check for loot on a mob if you don't tell us what the name of the creature is. There was also a bug in the zone where when players would get charmed in one of the fights the creatures in the zone would start aggroing on each other. If that happened to you, you wouldn't be awarded loot (I'm not saying that is the case, but if you were hit by that bug, it would explain the lack of loot). EH is supposed to be hard, nearly impossible if you haven't worked your way up in the progression. Fighting in EH without full AAs, new top end equipment, and some nice adornments, is like fighting in deathtoll without being level 70. Well we did pull the orange fairies (named and a couple adds) and I was charmed, and we were killed by half the mobs still alive in the zone. However, the loot prior to that was non existent.

11-17-2006, 12:24 AM	#19
Lyndro-EQ2 Lead Designer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 162	We found out about the charm bug last night and it was fixed this morning, so its no longer a bug that you need to worry about.There was a bug where the rumbler event that could stop it from running to completion. We found that yesterday, it was fixed this morning.Thos are the only issues that we knew of with the zone, they were both found yesterday and fixed this morning.

11-17-2006, 12:27 AM	#20
R2Chie General Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 99	Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:Its pretty hard for us to check for loot on a mob if you don't tell us what the name of the creature is. Hi Lyndro, It was the rumbler - killed it and no loot and nothing happened so we just kept going. Is it intended to be 3,000 trash mobs with no loot, not even body loot in zone? makes for a very boring zone when your doing nothing but clearing trash for 3-4hrs (and it could have been more if we didnt decide just to call it a night) __________________

11-17-2006, 12:47 AM	#21
Kreat Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59	Rethink this zone plz. Not that it was too hard but so daaaamn boring (no loot, 1000 trashmobs with 4 millions hp etc etc etc), it was a 4 h long yawnfest :smileyindifferent: We only had one shot at the endmob just because we were too bored to be arsed trying. Was this ever tested? __________________ Rhyza - Dirge Fable - Splitpaw

11-17-2006, 01:02 AM	#22
Vorlak Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 293	Kreated wrote: Rethink this zone plz. Not that it was too hard but so daaaamn boring (no loot, 1000 trashmobs with 4 millions hp etc etc etc), it was a 4 h long yawnfest :smileyindifferent: We only had one shot at the endmob just because we were too bored to be arsed trying. Was this ever tested? yes, and the same complaints where what you are seeing now...

11-17-2006, 01:38 AM	#23
schrammy Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 440	Lyndro-EQ2 wrote: We found out about the charm bug last night and it was fixed this morning, so its no longer a bug that you need to worry about. There was a bug where the rumbler event that could stop it from running to completion. We found that yesterday, it was fixed this morning. Thos are the only issues that we knew of with the zone, they were both found yesterday and fixed this morning. We didnt get that charm bug. And we beat the stuff without aa and adornments, AND we didn't have a full raid. must mean we rock (Honesty bids me to tell we just stopped at some point ie we didn't finish it for it sucked ) I'll check in guild if someone has any names (might come up in parses if anyone did) if not we'll have to wait for lockout , not to mention motivating peeps to get in there

11-17-2006, 02:20 AM	#24
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	pubear wrote: if its the end game zone, which I can accept, then it should be dropping a bit more loot. Even deathtoll there is a chance at relic and velium and other stuff dropping off of even the trash. This person is as much complaining about the ridiculous lack of loot in addition to the difficulty of the mobs. Being rewarded for killing trash is for losers and nubs. I'd rather not get 20 fabled out of a zone so I have nothing to farm in two weeks. Please leave it as is. Kreated wrote: Rethink this zone plz. Not that it was too hard but so daaaamn boring (no loot, 1000 trashmobs with 4 millions hp etc etc etc), it was a 4 h long yawnfest :smileyindifferent: We only had one shot at the endmob just because we were too bored to be arsed trying. If you guys are already pulling Wuoshi than I have no faith in EH to be the zone it was designed to be. Message Edited by Gaige on 11-16-2006 01:25 PM __________________

11-17-2006, 03:03 AM	#25
Mgunner Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 225	What's worse, 3rd floor of PPTR or this? Please tell me it isn't that bad. Message Edited by Mgunner on 11-16-2006 02:04 PM __________________

11-17-2006, 03:06 AM	#26
R2Chie General Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 99	please stop trying to derail the thread gaige... were all exstatic to the fact you think your fantastic, keep thinking it - i dont care. __________________

11-17-2006, 03:27 AM	#27
Tazr General Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Today California, Tommorrow Neveda, next week washington. Posts: 177	Gaige wrote: pubear wrote: if its the end game zone, which I can accept, then it should be dropping a bit more loot. Even deathtoll there is a chance at relic and velium and other stuff dropping off of even the trash. This person is as much complaining about the ridiculous lack of loot in addition to the difficulty of the mobs. Being rewarded for killing trash is for losers and nubs. I'd rather not get 20 fabled out of a zone so I have nothing to farm in two weeks. Please leave it as is. Kreated wrote: Rethink this zone plz. Not that it was too hard but so daaaamn boring (no loot, 1000 trashmobs with 4 millions hp etc etc etc), it was a 4 h long yawnfest :smileyindifferent: We only had one shot at the endmob just because we were too bored to be arsed trying. If you guys are already pulling Wuoshi than I have no faith in EH to be the zone it was designed to be. Message Edited by Gaige on 11-16-2006 01:25 PM Is this a macro? And did Ishbu right it for you? o_O :smileyvery-happy:

11-17-2006, 03:56 AM	#28
Jvaloth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 373	Gotta love the leetist pricks that think they are Gods of the world because they are in an uber raid guild. lol I like them to 2 [Removed for Content] in a head butting content... kinda funny... but really sad.

11-17-2006, 04:40 AM	#29
R2Chie General Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 99	Mgunner wrote: What's worse, 3rd floor of PPTR or this? Please tell me it isn't that bad. Message Edited by Mgunner on 11-16-2006 02:04 PM pptr has nothing on this place and the boredom you go through __________________

11-17-2006, 05:03 AM	#30
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	R2Chief2 wrote: please stop trying to derail the thread gaige... were all exstatic to the fact you think your fantastic, keep thinking it - i dont care. I'm on topic. I do not want the trash made easier, I do not want the trash to drop loot. On topic. I just disagree with you. If you want easy and fabled from trash, raid KoS. __________________