Unkillable Mobs and Loot Tables

Quicksilver74 · 08-23-2006, 12:03 AM

So I'm curious is the following mobs have a loot table.... or if they are designed to be Un-Killable.

The Gambler

The Tree of Woe

Lord Nagafen ................................(No brainer right there eh?)

Anyone know? *Hint Hint Moorgard!*

KrayzieK · 08-23-2006, 12:12 AM

By Gambler he means the Epic Nightblood in Halls of Seeing, ( Ozgot the Avenger (sp?) ) we call it the Gambler though because of the ward on the wall used to spawn it.

Message Edited by KrayzieKal on 08-22-2006 01:13 PM

Ratty31 · 08-23-2006, 12:15 AM

I'd assume that Nagafen was designed to be unkillable hence the level 100, the Gambler and tree were just poorly designed if meant to be defeated by level 70's.

Quicksilver74 · 08-23-2006, 12:17 AM

No, by Gambler I meant Kenny Rogers.

Ratty31 · 08-23-2006, 12:19 AM

I'd love to fight Kenny Rogers.

Schmoogles · 08-23-2006, 12:24 AM

I don't know about "The Gambler" if he is killable or not. Ever since someone told me that they spawn him as the guild is leaving the zone I have found a new found love for that zone because of that. Some reason though someone always beats me to spawning him because everyone thinks it's funny besides the person flipping the repair costs I guess. lol Seriously though I really do not think he is killable with that ae and stuff I just don't see him being able to be killed.

I think on a side note they did add a loot table to Naggy because someone claimed to have killed him back in T5 or T6 or something like that. There was a discussion about this on our server forums not to long ago and after all of this copy and pasting of stuff the final outcome was that naggy did in fact have a loot table for the most brave adventures. Probably some two handed sword with ft 30 but at least it does or did have some type of loot table.

Atmosphear1993 · 08-23-2006, 12:35 AM

Schmoogles wrote:

I don't know about "The Gambler" if he is killable or not. Ever since someone told me that they spawn him as the guild is leaving the zone I have found a new found love for that zone because of that. Some reason though someone always beats me to spawning him because everyone thinks it's funny besides the person flipping the repair costs I guess. lol Seriously though I really do not think he is killable with that ae and stuff I just don't see him being able to be killed.

I think on a side note they did add a loot table to Naggy because someone claimed to have killed him back in T5 or T6 or something like that. There was a discussion about this on our server forums not to long ago and after all of this copy and pasting of stuff the final outcome was that naggy did in fact have a loot table for the most brave adventures. Probably some two handed sword with ft 30 but at least it does or did have some type of loot table.

I don't think anyone killed Naggy but I've heard the rumors. However I do remember a dev post long ago about how they added a loot table to Naggy. So there could very well be a level 100 item in the game. I am sure we might see it when Naggy cons green to us.

HomeChicken · 08-23-2006, 01:03 AM

you can assume that any mob that hasnt been killed in this game yet has a loot table just FILLED with 2h weapons with FT on them...

and like ONE really good item, that will never drop

ever...

but it will be there to give us all reason to gear up our alts with 2h fabled weapons!

Snarks · 08-23-2006, 04:46 AM

Nagafen has a loot table.. it was in the update notes that they added it. It was a special project so I'd be really curious to see what's in there SMILEY

Quicksilver74 · 08-23-2006, 05:25 AM

I shoudl make a website dediacted to "Project: Nagafen" and it coudl be a site all about killing Nagafen... peopel can compare notes, share strats... see who got him below 99%..... And count down the days until the lvl cap is raised to 100 and it woudl be remotly possible for someone to actually do it.

Snarks · 08-23-2006, 05:50 AM

it was possible in tier5 before changes, any melee attack on a level 100 mob is a 1-hit-kill riposte. Spells can land occasionally though (because skills are meaningless, remember?), so its possible to damage it.ive killed those level 100 guards, but nagafen is epic so its not snareable. assuming its not rooted like old-vox, id say its unbeatable SMILEY

. but never say never i guess :p

Riversideblues · 08-23-2006, 07:18 AM

snarkteeth wrote: id say its unbeatable . but never say never i guess :p

maybe npu can find another way to bug his pathing around his platform maybe?

Quicksilver74 · 08-23-2006, 07:54 AM

Heya Snark, did the lvl 100 guards drop any loot?

Snarks · 08-23-2006, 08:15 AM

nope

thorvang · 08-23-2006, 02:37 PM

you've killed a lvl 100 mob? how did you manage to inflict any damage to it?

HomeChicken · 08-23-2006, 02:42 PM

not too hard to do damage to a level 100, just like nagafen, you can do damage to him, its just a matter of how fast he eats your face off

just with the guards you can snare / attempt to root

they are red tho so you got a good chance of dying due to a resist hehe

MeridianR · 08-23-2006, 04:24 PM

Yeah pretty sure they added a loot table to Naggy way back when....when I was on Mistmoore, Ardent Legion I believe tried him down before they added in his special attacks. After said attacks were added nobody else tried...Though I did see a video of someone soloing naggy.....but it was in eq1 SMILEY

mikeyswizz · 08-23-2006, 06:40 PM

MeridianR wrote:
Yeah pretty sure they added a loot table to Naggy way back when....when I was on Mistmoore, Ardent Legion I believe tried him down before they added in his special attacks. After said attacks were added nobody else tried...

Though I did see a video of someone soloing naggy.....but it was in eq1

Solo naggy in EQ1? didnt he port you out if you were above lvl 52? (i forget exact numbers)

Sunrayn · 08-23-2006, 08:11 PM

mikeyswizz wrote:

MeridianR wrote:
Yeah pretty sure they added a loot table to Naggy way back when....when I was on Mistmoore, Ardent Legion I believe tried him down before they added in his special attacks. After said attacks were added nobody else tried...

Though I did see a video of someone soloing naggy.....but it was in eq1

Solo naggy in EQ1? didnt he port you out if you were above lvl 52? (i forget exact numbers)

He was a de-leveled monk (to lvl 52) with a crap load of buffs, AAs he couldnt have at 52, and potions. There is some controversy about whether he was actually being healed/buffed by others standing outside the room

Leawyn · 08-23-2006, 09:23 PM

Sunrayn wrote:

mikeyswizz wrote:

MeridianR wrote:
Yeah pretty sure they added a loot table to Naggy way back when....when I was on Mistmoore, Ardent Legion I believe tried him down before they added in his special attacks. After said attacks were added nobody else tried...

Though I did see a video of someone soloing naggy.....but it was in eq1

Solo naggy in EQ1? didnt he port you out if you were above lvl 52? (i forget exact numbers)

He was a de-leveled monk (to lvl 52) with a crap load of buffs, AAs he couldnt have at 52, and potions. There is some controversy about whether he was actually being healed/buffed by others standing outside the room

I've seen the video. The cameraman was a shaman. Its unclear if he's being healed or not, but he claims he was using only his buffs and only heal potions to accomplish it. And yes, he deleveled to 52, so he had a huge advantage. Didn't they have a change that you could still use spells from higher levels if you died and lost your level? I forget.

Gaige · 08-24-2006, 03:20 AM

Nagafen has a loot table because FoH tried for a few hours in T5 to kill him and the devs got a chuckle out of it, causing Gallanite to not only itemize him but post that he was itemized in the update notes.

The "Gambler" has a loot table but it isn't unique, from what I've heard. That mob is designed as a joke moreso than as something that is intended to be killed. Kind of a "whoops you pressed the wrong button" type of mob.

As for the Tree of Woe, dunno.

HomeChicken · 08-24-2006, 07:59 AM

yah clicking the nightblood on the raid = best thing to do in a raid, ever

seems a lot like the vampire in gates, not meant to be killed, but if ya wanna try you can hehe

Quicksilver74 · 08-24-2006, 07:11 PM

Malkonis D`Morte at least had a unique loot table. I don't believe anyone killed him before KoS though...

Ja · 09-13-2006, 11:21 PM

Here's my guild and I attempting Nagafen pre-DoF... too bad we only had a rag tag group of 3 groups, we coulda had a shot.

http://www.iconoclastguild.com/downloads/movies/nice_try.wmv

Iisbliss · 09-14-2006, 01:10 PM

there is no such thing as an unkillable mob with a loot table....

Message Edited by Iisbliss on 09-14-2006 02:12 AM

Dogm · 09-14-2006, 03:05 PM

Iisbliss wrote:
there is no such thing as an unkillable mob with a loot table....

Message Edited by Iisbliss on 09-14-2006 02:12 AM

Well I would say that Naggy is unkillable (at this time), but he definately has a loot table. Back in T5 there was an update that mentioned giving Naggy loot (was around the time WoF went in if you want to look for it).

Darkaren · 09-14-2006, 06:54 PM

im fairly confident its obvious that he drops some now outdated pos tier 5 loot.

theres also a chance it drops tier 10 loot with FT3.

Groma · 09-14-2006, 08:09 PM

Naggy is unkillable, because he is lvl100x4, and they patched his lair to not allow more than 1 grp to zone in. If you are in a raid, you will get a message saying there are too many people, blah blah blah. So even if there was a chance in hell that a raid of 70s could take him down, you cant even zone a raid in anymore.

Unmask · 09-18-2006, 07:49 AM

Couldn't you just zone one person in at a time and form a raid that way?

Groma · 09-18-2006, 08:08 AM

Unmasked wrote:Couldn't you just zone one person in at a time and form a raid that way?

Its an instanced zone, so im assuming no. When you get 6 people in there, if 1 was to drop group and invite another person, the last person to zone in would get a 15second timer, that ends in being kicked from the zone.

08-23-2006, 12:24 AM	#6
Schmoogles Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 322	I don't know about "The Gambler" if he is killable or not. Ever since someone told me that they spawn him as the guild is leaving the zone I have found a new found love for that zone because of that. Some reason though someone always beats me to spawning him because everyone thinks it's funny besides the person flipping the repair costs I guess. lol Seriously though I really do not think he is killable with that ae and stuff I just don't see him being able to be killed. I think on a side note they did add a loot table to Naggy because someone claimed to have killed him back in T5 or T6 or something like that. There was a discussion about this on our server forums not to long ago and after all of this copy and pasting of stuff the final outcome was that naggy did in fact have a loot table for the most brave adventures. Probably some two handed sword with ft 30 but at least it does or did have some type of loot table. __________________

08-23-2006, 12:35 AM	#7
Atmosphear1993 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 219	Schmoogles wrote: I don't know about "The Gambler" if he is killable or not. Ever since someone told me that they spawn him as the guild is leaving the zone I have found a new found love for that zone because of that. Some reason though someone always beats me to spawning him because everyone thinks it's funny besides the person flipping the repair costs I guess. lol Seriously though I really do not think he is killable with that ae and stuff I just don't see him being able to be killed. I think on a side note they did add a loot table to Naggy because someone claimed to have killed him back in T5 or T6 or something like that. There was a discussion about this on our server forums not to long ago and after all of this copy and pasting of stuff the final outcome was that naggy did in fact have a loot table for the most brave adventures. Probably some two handed sword with ft 30 but at least it does or did have some type of loot table. I don't think anyone killed Naggy but I've heard the rumors. However I do remember a dev post long ago about how they added a loot table to Naggy. So there could very well be a level 100 item in the game. I am sure we might see it when Naggy cons green to us.

08-23-2006, 01:03 AM	#8
HomeChicken Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 259	you can assume that any mob that hasnt been killed in this game yet has a loot table just FILLED with 2h weapons with FT on them... and like ONE really good item, that will never drop ever... but it will be there to give us all reason to gear up our alts with 2h fabled weapons! __________________

08-23-2006, 04:46 AM	#9
Snarks Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 557	Nagafen has a loot table.. it was in the update notes that they added it. It was a special project so I'd be really curious to see what's in there __________________

08-23-2006, 05:50 AM	#11
Snarks Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 557	it was possible in tier5 before changes, any melee attack on a level 100 mob is a 1-hit-kill riposte. Spells can land occasionally though (because skills are meaningless, remember?), so its possible to damage it.ive killed those level 100 guards, but nagafen is epic so its not snareable. assuming its not rooted like old-vox, id say its unbeatable . but never say never i guess :p __________________

08-23-2006, 12:03 AM	#1
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	So I'm curious is the following mobs have a loot table.... or if they are designed to be Un-Killable. The Gambler The Tree of Woe Lord Nagafen ................................(No brainer right there eh?) Anyone know? Hint Hint Moorgard!

08-23-2006, 12:12 AM	#2
KrayzieK General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 105	By Gambler he means the Epic Nightblood in Halls of Seeing, ( Ozgot the Avenger (sp?) ) we call it the Gambler though because of the ward on the wall used to spawn it. Message Edited by KrayzieKal on 08-22-2006 01:13 PM

08-23-2006, 12:15 AM	#3
Ratty31 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 351	I'd assume that Nagafen was designed to be unkillable hence the level 100, the Gambler and tree were just poorly designed if meant to be defeated by level 70's.

08-23-2006, 12:17 AM	#4
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	No, by Gambler I meant Kenny Rogers.

08-23-2006, 12:19 AM	#5
Ratty31 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 351	I'd love to fight Kenny Rogers.

08-23-2006, 05:25 AM	#10
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	I shoudl make a website dediacted to "Project: Nagafen" and it coudl be a site all about killing Nagafen... peopel can compare notes, share strats... see who got him below 99%..... And count down the days until the lvl cap is raised to 100 and it woudl be remotly possible for someone to actually do it.

08-23-2006, 07:18 AM	#12
Riversideblues Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 476	snarkteeth wrote: id say its unbeatable . but never say never i guess :p maybe npu can find another way to bug his pathing around his platform maybe? __________________ I would not use my level 80 epic if it was given to me at level 70. Illusionist EPIC??, thanks for being 100% out of touch with the players.

08-23-2006, 07:54 AM	#13
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	Heya Snark, did the lvl 100 guards drop any loot?

08-23-2006, 08:15 AM	#14
Snarks Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 557	nope __________________

08-23-2006, 02:37 PM	#15
thorvang Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 862	you've killed a lvl 100 mob? how did you manage to inflict any damage to it? __________________

08-23-2006, 02:42 PM	#16
HomeChicken Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 259	not too hard to do damage to a level 100, just like nagafen, you can do damage to him, its just a matter of how fast he eats your face off just with the guards you can snare / attempt to root they are red tho so you got a good chance of dying due to a resist hehe __________________

08-23-2006, 04:24 PM	#17
MeridianR Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,402	Yeah pretty sure they added a loot table to Naggy way back when....when I was on Mistmoore, Ardent Legion I believe tried him down before they added in his special attacks. After said attacks were added nobody else tried...Though I did see a video of someone soloing naggy.....but it was in eq1 __________________ Meridian - L70 Brigand (Vendetta)

08-23-2006, 06:40 PM	#18
mikeyswizz Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 163	MeridianR wrote: Yeah pretty sure they added a loot table to Naggy way back when....when I was on Mistmoore, Ardent Legion I believe tried him down before they added in his special attacks. After said attacks were added nobody else tried... Though I did see a video of someone soloing naggy.....but it was in eq1 Solo naggy in EQ1? didnt he port you out if you were above lvl 52? (i forget exact numbers) __________________

08-23-2006, 08:11 PM	#19
Sunrayn Tester Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 498	mikeyswizz wrote: MeridianR wrote: Yeah pretty sure they added a loot table to Naggy way back when....when I was on Mistmoore, Ardent Legion I believe tried him down before they added in his special attacks. After said attacks were added nobody else tried... Though I did see a video of someone soloing naggy.....but it was in eq1 Solo naggy in EQ1? didnt he port you out if you were above lvl 52? (i forget exact numbers) He was a de-leveled monk (to lvl 52) with a crap load of buffs, AAs he couldnt have at 52, and potions. There is some controversy about whether he was actually being healed/buffed by others standing outside the room

08-23-2006, 09:23 PM	#20
Leawyn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,014	Sunrayn wrote: mikeyswizz wrote: MeridianR wrote: Yeah pretty sure they added a loot table to Naggy way back when....when I was on Mistmoore, Ardent Legion I believe tried him down before they added in his special attacks. After said attacks were added nobody else tried... Though I did see a video of someone soloing naggy.....but it was in eq1 Solo naggy in EQ1? didnt he port you out if you were above lvl 52? (i forget exact numbers) He was a de-leveled monk (to lvl 52) with a crap load of buffs, AAs he couldnt have at 52, and potions. There is some controversy about whether he was actually being healed/buffed by others standing outside the room I've seen the video. The cameraman was a shaman. Its unclear if he's being healed or not, but he claims he was using only his buffs and only heal potions to accomplish it. And yes, he deleveled to 52, so he had a huge advantage. Didn't they have a change that you could still use spells from higher levels if you died and lost your level? I forget. __________________ Maelani \| Maelya \| Maerie \| Maehymn \| Maewyn \| Maekita \| Maelynne

08-24-2006, 03:20 AM	#21
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	Nagafen has a loot table because FoH tried for a few hours in T5 to kill him and the devs got a chuckle out of it, causing Gallanite to not only itemize him but post that he was itemized in the update notes. The "Gambler" has a loot table but it isn't unique, from what I've heard. That mob is designed as a joke moreso than as something that is intended to be killed. Kind of a "whoops you pressed the wrong button" type of mob. As for the Tree of Woe, dunno. __________________

08-24-2006, 07:59 AM	#22
HomeChicken Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 259	yah clicking the nightblood on the raid = best thing to do in a raid, ever seems a lot like the vampire in gates, not meant to be killed, but if ya wanna try you can hehe __________________

08-24-2006, 07:11 PM	#23
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	Malkonis D`Morte at least had a unique loot table. I don't believe anyone killed him before KoS though...

09-13-2006, 11:21 PM	#24
Ja Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 76	Here's my guild and I attempting Nagafen pre-DoF... too bad we only had a rag tag group of 3 groups, we coulda had a shot. http://www.iconoclastguild.com/downloads/movies/nice_try.wmv __________________ ------------------ Covina Iconoclast Permafrost http://eq2.raidmobs.com

09-14-2006, 01:10 PM	#25
Iisbliss Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 40	there is no such thing as an unkillable mob with a loot table.... Message Edited by Iisbliss on 09-14-2006 02:12 AM

09-14-2006, 03:05 PM	#26
Dogm General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 239	Iisbliss wrote: there is no such thing as an unkillable mob with a loot table.... Message Edited by Iisbliss on 09-14-2006 02:12 AM Well I would say that Naggy is unkillable (at this time), but he definately has a loot table. Back in T5 there was an update that mentioned giving Naggy loot (was around the time WoF went in if you want to look for it). __________________

09-14-2006, 06:54 PM	#27
Darkaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 52	im fairly confident its obvious that he drops some now outdated pos tier 5 loot. theres also a chance it drops tier 10 loot with FT3.

09-14-2006, 08:09 PM	#28
Groma General Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: www.eq2flames.com Posts: 679	Naggy is unkillable, because he is lvl100x4, and they patched his lair to not allow more than 1 grp to zone in. If you are in a raid, you will get a message saying there are too many people, blah blah blah. So even if there was a chance in hell that a raid of 70s could take him down, you cant even zone a raid in anymore.

09-18-2006, 07:49 AM	#29
Unmask Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,132	Couldn't you just zone one person in at a time and form a raid that way? __________________ Clint Eastwoods Oasis dogs > cats /wagtail

09-18-2006, 08:08 AM	#30
Groma General Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: www.eq2flames.com Posts: 679	Unmasked wrote:Couldn't you just zone one person in at a time and form a raid that way? Its an instanced zone, so im assuming no. When you get 6 people in there, if 1 was to drop group and invite another person, the last person to zone in would get a 15second timer, that ends in being kicked from the zone.