Matron change. Huh?

Wrapye · 08-16-2006, 06:30 PM

From today's (8/16) live patch notes:- The Direvine Matron has discovered rejuvenation powers around the druid ring. Adventurers be advised!I was under the impression that no one had managed to kill the Matron yet world wide. Now she is being made harder?...Adventurers being advised what? To keep staying away from this mob?

Ratty31 · 08-16-2006, 06:37 PM

I'm sure someone prally got close to killing it by pathing it around the druid ring or something.

MeridianR · 08-16-2006, 06:42 PM

It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out......here is guessing that thread about the Matron being changed 1 month before EoF comes out (so it can be beat) was spot on.

Woz · 08-16-2006, 07:04 PM

It would be nice if they would clarify this as being a change to some sort of bug or exploit people were using or what the heck the deal is.The matron was by no means too easy. Making her harder at this point really doesnt seem to serve a purpose.

Dasein · 08-16-2006, 07:58 PM

It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out......

What are you talking about? Outside a few hardcore raid guilds, no one cares or even knows about the Matron.

Woz · 08-16-2006, 07:59 PM

Caswydian wrote:
It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out......
What are you talking about? Outside a few hardcore raid guilds, no one cares or even knows about the Matron.

Then those people shouldnt post on a thread about the matron.

Dasein · 08-16-2006, 08:11 PM

They don't. That so few care or are even aware of the Matron is what makes comments like this " It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out......" so absurd. The majority of people have lots of content to play through, and enjoy the new content being added, like Nek 3 and the other quests. Why did the poster not temper his comments simply to refer only to raiders?

ProphecyCT · 08-16-2006, 08:11 PM

Caswydian wrote:
It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out......
What are you talking about? Outside a few hardcore raid guilds, no one cares or even knows about the Matron.

Shouldn't u be farming relic or something?

Dasein · 08-16-2006, 08:15 PM

Sorry, there's a non-uber-leet person daring to post in your thread and remind you that there's players other than raiders. I know you probably miss all the little people out there, who only exist to cause you lag.

Woz · 08-16-2006, 08:18 PM

Caswydian wrote:Sorry, there's a non-uber-leet person daring to post in your thread and remind you that there's players other than raiders. I know you probably miss all the little people out there, who only exist to cause you lag.

Doesnt this scream troll to just about everyone? This thread is about the direvine matron and the change that was mentioned in the patch notes to her/her encounter.He comes in here saying only a select few people care so it doesnt matter.Then he comes back and tries to entice people further?You would think that being so blatantly a troll and a [Removed for Content] would earn him a ban, but no, Im sure Im the one whose going to get banned because I pointed out what an idiot this guy truly is.

ProphecyCT · 08-16-2006, 08:21 PM

Caswydian wrote:Sorry, there's a non-uber-leet person daring to post in your thread and remind you that there's players other than raiders. I know you probably miss all the little people out there, who only exist to cause you lag.

Let's not forget this thread is discussing about the change to the matron, not about casual players vs hardcore players and such. =PAnyways, why exactly did they even add more abilities to her? Like she didn't have enough to wipe a raid on ever pull.

Ratty31 · 08-16-2006, 08:22 PM

I blame NPU

Dasein · 08-16-2006, 08:24 PM

If you wanted to actually discuss the Matron, go ahead, but MeridianR decided to make this into a general attack on SOE and assumed that the only content that mattered was raid content, ignoring the vast majority of non-raiders. I merely pointed out that Th Matron is not something that matters for most people, and so making a statement to the effect that The Matron is the only thing keeping people playing until EOF comes out doesn't make much sense. Why do some people take so much offense if it is mentioned that there's players other than raiders out there?

vinterskugge · 08-16-2006, 08:26 PM

This thread is about a RAID mob, so I'd expect most people reading it to be RAIDERS and not trolls like yourself. That statement about keeping people interested applies to RAIDERS who this thread is obviously intented for.

ProphecyCT · 08-16-2006, 08:26 PM

Caswydian wrote:If you wanted to actually discuss the Matron, go ahead, but MeridianR decided to make this into a general attack on SOE and assumed that the only content that mattered was raid content, ignoring the vast majority of non-raiders. I merely pointed out that Th Matron is not something that matters for most people, and so making a statement to the effect that The Matron is the only thing keeping people playing until EOF comes out doesn't make much sense. Why do some people take so much offense if it is mentioned that there's players other than raiders out there?

Have u ever considered when he said that "people" perhaps he implied raiders because ... well raiders are the one who attempt the Matron ?I wonder if anyone tried to exploit the crappy pathing around the druid ring =P.

Dasein · 08-16-2006, 08:30 PM

Perhaps, but he didn't say that. If he had, it wouldn't be an issue. Equally, it could be implied from his statement that non-raiders simply don't matter.

Woz · 08-16-2006, 08:30 PM

Caswydian wrote:If you wanted to actually discuss the Matron, go ahead, but MeridianR decided to make this into a general attack on SOE and assumed that the only content that mattered was raid content, ignoring the vast majority of non-raiders. I merely pointed out that Th Matron is not something that matters for most people, and so making a statement to the effect that The Matron is the only thing keeping people playing until EOF comes out doesn't make much sense. Why do some people take so much offense if it is mentioned that there's players other than raiders out there?

He was discussing the matron and refering to a very common practice since EQ1 and another thread that was created on this board. Quit trolling and read so next time you dont have to look so foolish.

Renolas · 08-16-2006, 08:31 PM

Next patch---

The Direvine Matron has enlisted the aid of a well known friend to help when she feel threatens. Adventurers beware of the mighty Chel'drak spawning when she is taken to low hitpoints!!

Woz · 08-16-2006, 08:31 PM

Caswydian wrote:Perhaps, but he didn't say that. If he had, it wouldn't be an issue. Equally, it could be implied from his statement that non-raiders simply don't matter.

Lol sure.....Lets see what he wrote word for word shall we?"It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out......here is guessing that thread about the Matron being changed 1 month before EoF comes out (so it can be beat) was spot on."Oh yeah, lots of shots at non-raiders. Oh wait, he's only talking about the matron and how it applies to raiders (since this is a raid thread).

Pins · 08-16-2006, 08:33 PM

How to make this a debate between non-raiders and raiders:Step 1: have a non-raider come in and say who cares!Wait, that's all there is to it. Leave the thread about RAID mobs to RAIDERS. If you have no constructive opinions about the mob, then please be quiet.Anyway, to the thread at hand.[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]? Seriously, what is with SoE and making a hard mob(one that nobody has killed so far), even harder(at least, that's what I'm getting from the patch note, which everybody else is too)? I mean, seriously this mob is hard enough as it is, now if this update note means "We have nerfed the matron and it will die on 5-10 servers tonight, enjoy" then I will be very upset.This just makes me go wow, what is wrong with people at SoE.

Wrapye · 08-16-2006, 08:35 PM

Can we please have a thread about the Matron without it getting locked?

Woz · 08-16-2006, 08:36 PM

I think the best bet for the reason for these changes is that someone was exploiting the pathing at the druid ring. No idea whom that would be but there are a couple guilds that have been known to do things like this that have been trying the matron lately...

ProphecyCT · 08-16-2006, 08:36 PM

The many ways on how the Matron can kill you!-Critically hitting your tank.-Stunning or stiffling your healers-Teleporting key people far far away =P.-Running yourself out of power.-Being orange and hitting like a truck.-(I like this one) Killing yourself because of the damage shield.And now!-Healing itself when it it gets close to dying =P.

Ratty31 · 08-16-2006, 08:37 PM

Wozza wrote:
I think the best bet for the reason for these changes is that someone was exploiting the pathing at the druid ring. No idea whom that would be but there are a couple guilds that have been known to do things like this that have been trying the matron lately...

Name names.

Renolas · 08-16-2006, 08:39 PM

ProphecyCT wrote:
The many ways on how the Matron can kill you!

-Critically hitting your tank.
-Stunning or stiffling your healers
-Teleporting key people far far away =P.
-Running yourself out of power.
-Being orange and hitting like a truck.
-(I like this one) Killing yourself because of the damage shield.

And now!
-Healing itself when it it gets close to dying =P.

Thats not enough! Need more or this mob might actually be beat in the next 4 months !! Beatable mobs? that shouldnt happen

ProphecyCT · 08-16-2006, 08:39 PM

Ratty31 wrote:

Wozza wrote:I think the best bet for the reason for these changes is that someone was exploiting the pathing at the druid ring. No idea whom that would be but there are a couple guilds that have been known to do things like this that have been trying the matron lately...

Name names.

I bet Koenig can take a shot at a few possible ones =P.

Woz · 08-16-2006, 08:39 PM

Well I just know she's been gracing the top 100 kill lists of Guk, Nektulos, Najena, The Bazar, and Butcherblock in the last week. Now of those you have to pick the server/guild that would be most apt to do this.

Ratty31 · 08-16-2006, 08:40 PM

Ratty31 wrote:
I blame NPU

/flex

ProphecyCT · 08-16-2006, 08:41 PM

Renolas wrote:

ProphecyCT wrote:The many ways on how the Matron can kill you!-Critically hitting your tank.-Stunning or stiffling your healers-Teleporting key people far far away =P.-Running yourself out of power.-Being orange and hitting like a truck.-(I like this one) Killing yourself because of the damage shield.And now!-Healing itself when it it gets close to dying =P.

Thats not enough! Need more or this mob might actually be beat in the next 4 months !! Beatable mobs? that shouldnt happen

Possible additions:-Death touch every 30 seconds.-Requiring a random drop ring to be equiped by all people within the raid. If you do not have the ring, u cannot see the Matron. (THe ring randomly 1/1000, drops off of one of the two trash adds).

KrayzieK · 08-16-2006, 08:41 PM

I sent in PM's to developers almost a month ago about the "pathing" around the druid ring. I'm confused as to why they wouldn't fix the pathing problem itself though rather than adding rejuvenation powers and getting everybody all roused up.

08-16-2006, 06:30 PM	#1
Wrapye Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 912	From today's (8/16) live patch notes:- The Direvine Matron has discovered rejuvenation powers around the druid ring. Adventurers be advised!I was under the impression that no one had managed to kill the Matron yet world wide. Now she is being made harder?...Adventurers being advised what? To keep staying away from this mob? __________________

08-16-2006, 06:42 PM	#3
MeridianR Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,402	It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out......here is guessing that thread about the Matron being changed 1 month before EoF comes out (so it can be beat) was spot on. __________________ Meridian - L70 Brigand (Vendetta)

08-16-2006, 07:58 PM	#5
Dasein Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,847	It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out...... What are you talking about? Outside a few hardcore raid guilds, no one cares or even knows about the Matron. __________________ Troll Lord Casywdian

08-16-2006, 07:59 PM	#6
Woz Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 74	Caswydian wrote: It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out...... What are you talking about? Outside a few hardcore raid guilds, no one cares or even knows about the Matron. Then those people shouldnt post on a thread about the matron.

08-16-2006, 08:11 PM	#7
Dasein Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,847	They don't. That so few care or are even aware of the Matron is what makes comments like this " It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out......" so absurd. The majority of people have lots of content to play through, and enjoy the new content being added, like Nek 3 and the other quests. Why did the poster not temper his comments simply to refer only to raiders? __________________ Troll Lord Casywdian

08-16-2006, 06:37 PM	#2
Ratty31 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 351	I'm sure someone prally got close to killing it by pathing it around the druid ring or something.

08-16-2006, 07:04 PM	#4
Woz Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 74	It would be nice if they would clarify this as being a change to some sort of bug or exploit people were using or what the heck the deal is.The matron was by no means too easy. Making her harder at this point really doesnt seem to serve a purpose.

08-16-2006, 08:11 PM	#8
ProphecyCT Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 247	Caswydian wrote: It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out...... What are you talking about? Outside a few hardcore raid guilds, no one cares or even knows about the Matron. Shouldn't u be farming relic or something? __________________

08-16-2006, 08:15 PM	#9
Dasein Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,847	Sorry, there's a non-uber-leet person daring to post in your thread and remind you that there's players other than raiders. I know you probably miss all the little people out there, who only exist to cause you lag. __________________ Troll Lord Casywdian

08-16-2006, 08:18 PM	#10
Woz Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 74	Caswydian wrote:Sorry, there's a non-uber-leet person daring to post in your thread and remind you that there's players other than raiders. I know you probably miss all the little people out there, who only exist to cause you lag. Doesnt this scream troll to just about everyone? This thread is about the direvine matron and the change that was mentioned in the patch notes to her/her encounter.He comes in here saying only a select few people care so it doesnt matter.Then he comes back and tries to entice people further?You would think that being so blatantly a troll and a [Removed for Content] would earn him a ban, but no, Im sure Im the one whose going to get banned because I pointed out what an idiot this guy truly is.

08-16-2006, 08:21 PM	#11
ProphecyCT Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 247	Caswydian wrote:Sorry, there's a non-uber-leet person daring to post in your thread and remind you that there's players other than raiders. I know you probably miss all the little people out there, who only exist to cause you lag. Let's not forget this thread is discussing about the change to the matron, not about casual players vs hardcore players and such. =PAnyways, why exactly did they even add more abilities to her? Like she didn't have enough to wipe a raid on ever pull. __________________

08-16-2006, 08:22 PM	#12
Ratty31 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 351	I blame NPU

08-16-2006, 08:24 PM	#13
Dasein Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,847	If you wanted to actually discuss the Matron, go ahead, but MeridianR decided to make this into a general attack on SOE and assumed that the only content that mattered was raid content, ignoring the vast majority of non-raiders. I merely pointed out that Th Matron is not something that matters for most people, and so making a statement to the effect that The Matron is the only thing keeping people playing until EOF comes out doesn't make much sense. Why do some people take so much offense if it is mentioned that there's players other than raiders out there? __________________ Troll Lord Casywdian

08-16-2006, 08:26 PM	#14
vinterskugge Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 696	This thread is about a RAID mob, so I'd expect most people reading it to be RAIDERS and not trolls like yourself. That statement about keeping people interested applies to RAIDERS who this thread is obviously intented for.

08-16-2006, 08:26 PM	#15
ProphecyCT Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 247	Caswydian wrote:If you wanted to actually discuss the Matron, go ahead, but MeridianR decided to make this into a general attack on SOE and assumed that the only content that mattered was raid content, ignoring the vast majority of non-raiders. I merely pointed out that Th Matron is not something that matters for most people, and so making a statement to the effect that The Matron is the only thing keeping people playing until EOF comes out doesn't make much sense. Why do some people take so much offense if it is mentioned that there's players other than raiders out there? Have u ever considered when he said that "people" perhaps he implied raiders because ... well raiders are the one who attempt the Matron ?I wonder if anyone tried to exploit the crappy pathing around the druid ring =P. __________________

08-16-2006, 08:30 PM	#16
Dasein Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,847	Perhaps, but he didn't say that. If he had, it wouldn't be an issue. Equally, it could be implied from his statement that non-raiders simply don't matter. __________________ Troll Lord Casywdian

08-16-2006, 08:31 PM	#18
Renolas Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 33	Next patch--- The Direvine Matron has enlisted the aid of a well known friend to help when she feel threatens. Adventurers beware of the mighty Chel'drak spawning when she is taken to low hitpoints!! __________________

08-16-2006, 08:31 PM	#19
Woz Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 74	Caswydian wrote:Perhaps, but he didn't say that. If he had, it wouldn't be an issue. Equally, it could be implied from his statement that non-raiders simply don't matter. Lol sure.....Lets see what he wrote word for word shall we?"It's kinda sad that SoE believes' this one mob will keep people interested in the game til EoF comes out......here is guessing that thread about the Matron being changed 1 month before EoF comes out (so it can be beat) was spot on."Oh yeah, lots of shots at non-raiders. Oh wait, he's only talking about the matron and how it applies to raiders (since this is a raid thread).

08-16-2006, 08:33 PM	#20
Pins General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,040	How to make this a debate between non-raiders and raiders:Step 1: have a non-raider come in and say who cares!Wait, that's all there is to it. Leave the thread about RAID mobs to RAIDERS. If you have no constructive opinions about the mob, then please be quiet.Anyway, to the thread at hand.[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]? Seriously, what is with SoE and making a hard mob(one that nobody has killed so far), even harder(at least, that's what I'm getting from the patch note, which everybody else is too)? I mean, seriously this mob is hard enough as it is, now if this update note means "We have nerfed the matron and it will die on 5-10 servers tonight, enjoy" then I will be very upset.This just makes me go wow, what is wrong with people at SoE. __________________ Calaglin, Former Illusionist/Guild Leader of Dissolution on Nektulos Calaglin, Former Illusionist/Guild Leader of Confirmed on Unrest

08-16-2006, 08:35 PM	#21
Wrapye Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 912	Can we please have a thread about the Matron without it getting locked? __________________

08-16-2006, 08:36 PM	#22
Woz Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 74	I think the best bet for the reason for these changes is that someone was exploiting the pathing at the druid ring. No idea whom that would be but there are a couple guilds that have been known to do things like this that have been trying the matron lately...

08-16-2006, 08:37 PM	#24
Ratty31 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 351	Wozza wrote: I think the best bet for the reason for these changes is that someone was exploiting the pathing at the druid ring. No idea whom that would be but there are a couple guilds that have been known to do things like this that have been trying the matron lately... Name names.

08-16-2006, 08:39 PM	#25
Renolas Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 33	ProphecyCT wrote: The many ways on how the Matron can kill you! -Critically hitting your tank. -Stunning or stiffling your healers -Teleporting key people far far away =P. -Running yourself out of power. -Being orange and hitting like a truck. -(I like this one) Killing yourself because of the damage shield. And now! -Healing itself when it it gets close to dying =P. Thats not enough! Need more or this mob might actually be beat in the next 4 months !! Beatable mobs? that shouldnt happen __________________

08-16-2006, 08:39 PM	#26
ProphecyCT Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 247	Ratty31 wrote: Wozza wrote:I think the best bet for the reason for these changes is that someone was exploiting the pathing at the druid ring. No idea whom that would be but there are a couple guilds that have been known to do things like this that have been trying the matron lately... Name names. I bet Koenig can take a shot at a few possible ones =P. __________________

08-16-2006, 08:40 PM	#28
Ratty31 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 351	Ratty31 wrote: I blame NPU /flex

08-16-2006, 08:41 PM	#29
ProphecyCT Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 247	Renolas wrote: ProphecyCT wrote:The many ways on how the Matron can kill you!-Critically hitting your tank.-Stunning or stiffling your healers-Teleporting key people far far away =P.-Running yourself out of power.-Being orange and hitting like a truck.-(I like this one) Killing yourself because of the damage shield.And now!-Healing itself when it it gets close to dying =P. Thats not enough! Need more or this mob might actually be beat in the next 4 months !! Beatable mobs? that shouldnt happen Possible additions:-Death touch every 30 seconds.-Requiring a random drop ring to be equiped by all people within the raid. If you do not have the ring, u cannot see the Matron. (THe ring randomly 1/1000, drops off of one of the two trash adds). __________________

08-16-2006, 08:41 PM	#30
KrayzieK General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 105	I sent in PM's to developers almost a month ago about the "pathing" around the druid ring. I'm confused as to why they wouldn't fix the pathing problem itself though rather than adding rejuvenation powers and getting everybody all roused up.