New Deathtoll Access

[Wabit]

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Kraks_Aforty wrote:
not a competition of who gets home first, who has the crappiest life, or who has no other cares at all in life. 

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i win the crappiest life contest :smileytongue:

[AratornCalahn]

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Wabit wrote:

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Kraks_Aforty wrote:not a competition of who gets home first, who has the crappiest life, or who has no other cares at all in life. 

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i win the crappiest life contest :smileytongue:

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grats

[Pouncer74]

link em the foot pic crac!

 

krutt

[Malcomb]

They should NOT decrease the difficulty of any of the mobs.  If anything i think the AoA dragons should be made tougher.

 

Instancing isn't such a bad idea i suppose... really depends on what kind of guilds are on your server.  The night we killed harla dar there were several other guilds raiding which could have made it to Pantrilla no problem, but none of them showed up. 

 

 

 

 

[Gimmiso]

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Daelomdel wrote:Eternal Chaos' concept of "working well together" and "mobilizing" is in reality "account sharing" and "botting programs!"  Maybe one day we can all be leet and violate the ToS six ways from Sunday so we can pwn everyone else on our server.And I can't speak for the guilds on other servers, but EC went out of their way to [Removed for Content] any other guild for getting into Deathtoll.  EC and guild like them are exactly why SoE has to make changes like this....um, did you even notice that it was us too telling soe to make these changes, clearly we are not blocking and want you all to get access, just not at the expense of us getting to kill a contested.

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Absolutely not true. What makes EC special and able to get alot of mobs is our DEDICATION. Hurricanus popped at 3am so we all got phone calls and all got out of bed for the love of being the best at the game. Pantrilla/Harla Dar popped at 3pm central so we all kept up with the forums and enough people were able to leave work early to form a full raid. Being able to put real life on hold for raid mobs is why we are a Hard Core Raid Guild. Botting, nah. A couple people have multiple accounts and can manage to play two accounts on 2 different computers at the same time, but still, that is like maybe 3% of our guild tops. No programs, no cheating.But thanks for for saying that, just shows how good we really are that you assume we need programs to play for us. :smileyvery-happy:I notice too you didn't sign your post.  you must be hiding from something.

Message Edited by Gimmisome on 04-22-2006 07:35 AM

Message Edited by Gimmisome on 04-22-2006 07:40 AM

[Dirtgirl]

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Parrot665 wrote:

 

Are all EC A**holes, or just the ones who post here constantly?

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No....and no. :smileytongue: 
They are just a bunch of crazies who rarely sleep, or don't mind that 4am phone call for a contested.

[Gimmiso]

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Dirtgirl wrote:

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Parrot665 wrote:

 

Are all EC A**holes, or just the ones who post here constantly?

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No....and no. :smileytongue:  They are just a bunch of crazies who rarely sleep, or don't mind that 4am phone call for a contested.

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just saying, that is what make us a hard core raid guild...not trying to be A holes....If you'd bother to go look at the other thread you will see several times where I posted that Harla Should be instanced, clearly we are on your side in that sense.  well F it, I will just Quote it for you so you dont have to go look...

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Gimmisome wrote:So yes, now there will be multiple guilds all in the same little area waiting for Pantrilla and the Idol.... doesn't matter who kills pant, in fact, If I was one of these guilds, I would rather not kill Pant becuase the time that they spend doing loot is more time for us to run up and get to Harla.... well sure it's fair.... if it wasn't, SOE wouldn't have allowed us to get here. ( a joke in case you can't tell)Recipe for Trouble1 part dungeon2 parts contested mob1 part Idol3 parts Guildsimmer with lag, stir briskly and viola! A delicious drama cake with petition icing on top   mmmm mmmmm  goodsorry soe, but i think this is going to make it worse, not better. we'll see.instance it.

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The comment I made about people not getting there before not being able to kill pant was not directly related to Befallen.....I was referring to some that can't even kill Pantrilla and think that because it is instanced now they can kill Harla.Thinking that we are attacking any of you directly shows that you don't care about the game, all you want is to hurt other people or get them gone so you don't have any competition.   but that is what the game is about.I personally love all of the members of Fallen, never had a problem with anyone..... so stop trying to say we are hurting you guys.

Message Edited by Gimmisome on 04-22-2006 07:49 AM

[Gaellen]

Hey, when multiple people confirm members have said, "We'll never let them get DT access, ever!".... you can't blame a girl for feeling hurt.    This'll stop all the strife (at least over this issue), so it's a good thing for all of us.

[Gaige]

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Gimmisome wrote:

Absolutely not true. What makes EC special and able to get alot of mobs is our DEDICATION. Hurricanus popped at 3am so we all got phone calls and all got out of bed for the love of being the best at the game. Pantrilla/Harla Dar popped at 3pm central so we all kept up with the forums and enough people were able to leave work early to form a full raid. Being able to put real life on hold for raid mobs is why we are a Hard Core Raid Guild.

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Laugh.  Out.  Loud.

Funny, we killed Hurricanus and Pantrilla/Harla this week and no one left work early or got called at 3am.

If someone calls me at 3am and it isn't Tara Ried with some Taco Bell and loving for me, they better be telling me I won the lottery.

[Dirtgirl]

So were you lucky on the spawn timer being in prime time, or is there no one else capable of the kills on your server?

[Gimmiso]

like I said Gaige, thats what makes us hard core!Feith - I know it sucks, but let be honest here, sometimes people like to say stuff as a sort of revenge or others make stuff up just to cover their own arses..... thats life right? I can see though how it might seem that way, but like we said before, contested mob + loot = good enough reason for us to kill it, plus we still have our own members that need Harla Dar..... but alas, problem will be solved soon enough. :smileywink:

[Gaige]

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Dirtgirl wrote:
So were you lucky on the spawn timer being in prime time, or is there no one else capable of the kills on your server?

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Club Fu is capable of Pantrilla and Harla and most everything else, but I don't think they've gotten Hurricanus yet.

It doesn't matter though, I value my sleep and my real life - I wouldn't get up to kill a mob at 3am for anyone.

[Dirtgirl]

:smileyvery-happy:
Not even Tara?

Message Edited by Dirtgirl on 04-22-2006 09:32 AM

[Gimmiso]

gaige, what if I told you I was Tara Ried? :smileysurprised:

Message Edited by Gimmisome on 04-22-2006 08:52 AM

[Dirtgirl]

LOL!!!!!!!!  Do you have Taco Bell for him too?  Hell, if you are and do, you can call me at 3am!  And if Tanger is lucky, he can listen....LOL

[Gaige]

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Dirtgirl wrote:
Hell, if you are and do, you can call me at 3am!  And if Tanger is lucky, he can listen....LOL

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O_o

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At any rate I know Tara Ried doesn't play EQ2 because if she did she'd obviously send me tells all day since I'm uber and stuff and she doesn't.

[Sute]

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Daelomdel wrote:
Eternal Chaos' concept of "working well together" and "mobilizing" is in reality "account sharing" and "botting programs!"  Maybe one day we can all be leet and violate the ToS six ways from Sunday so we can pwn everyone else on our server.

And I can't speak for the guilds on other servers, but EC went out of their way to [Removed for Content] any other guild for getting into Deathtoll.  EC and guild like them are exactly why SoE has to make changes like this....

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See its this crap right here that makes things hard for people on the server. Do you have proof of this or are you just talking crap for the sake of it? Stop the hate spreading and maybe a little less hate comes your way. I am really getting tired of the BS comments both here and in game, I dont know if your part of fallen or not, but i sure as hell hope not as you should know better to talk some lame BS like this.

If you have proof of this then report it, dont do it this way it helps no one.

I'm done with any of this guild hate BS, i am past caring, good luck guys.

[Gertack_v2]

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Sutexi wrote:

See its this crap right here that makes things hard for people on the server. Do you have proof of this or are you just talking crap for the sake of it? Stop the hate spreading and maybe a little less hate comes your way. I am really getting tired of the BS comments both here and in game,

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I would guess he heard it from people who came from Faydark.

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I dont know if your part of fallen or not,

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He's not.  (I spent a minute or two to figure out who he was.)

Regardless, saying something on the forum is pointless. If it is that big of a deal to you (and you have the proof), then /petition them for ToS violations while they're killing a contested at an off hour and see what the GMs can find.

[Kraks_Aforty]

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Gimmisome wrote:like I said Gaige, thats what makes us hard core!Feith - I know it sucks, but let be honest here, sometimes people like to say stuff as a sort of revenge or others make stuff up just to cover their own arses..... thats life right? I can see though how it might seem that way, but like we said before, contested mob + loot = good enough reason for us to kill it, plus we still have our own members that need Harla Dar..... but alas, problem will be solved soon enough. :smileywink:

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This is not dedication.  This is someone in need of an intervention.

[Digi]

Well Gratz all you Whiners out there,

You have taken the one of the truely challenging parts of this entire expansion and trivialized it. You people still don't understand that part of the challenge in a contested mob is that there are other guilds going for it. You can't just put yourself on an island and beat your fists against a mob until it gets exausted of your antics and finally just lays down. You have to mobilize and execute. If you aren't a well organized raiding force you are either not going to get there in time, or you are going to pull too early and wipe and not get another shot at it.

This has nothing to do with "[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]-Blocking", and has everything to do with competition. Think of it like Guild vs Guild type PvP encounter, becuse that is what it is. all you have done here is lowered tha bar for yourselves. I hope you are proud of your Deathtoll access, but I think there should be an asterix by it personally.

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Blinding wrote:

I love how just about every poster from your guild on here used this logic. It's funny really, I don't recall ANYONE saying to make the encounter easier. What people wanted was the opportunity to kill her without the bigger guilds (yes, I said BIGGER, not better -- don't forget that) always killing her.

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Blinding this just proves how big of an idiot you really are. My guild dominated the Harla Dar spawn on Kithicor and we have 31 active members. THATS RIGHT 31, and you can check on eq2players.com if you want. The name is Chaotic Legion on the Kithicor server. And one more thing about you Blinding. If you spent as much time camping mobs as you did camping these forums you would have been among the first to deathtoll with Wurmslayer in hand.

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Kraks_Aforty wrote:

Is it just me, or does everyone just read "Rabble rabble we're so uber rabble rabble" everytime someone from Eternal Chaos posts?

You guys are wearing thin fast.  Ok, you're doing great this expansion.  Yippee.  Nobody cares but yourselves.  Instead of being like some of the long term, truly "uber guilds" out there that have gained respect and friends across servers, you guys are turning into the laughing stock of EQ2.  Get over yourselves already.


This is a good change.  As I told Feltrak and a few others in Fu back a month ago, we have no desire to [Removed for Content] folks, we just wanna kill stuff and there wasn't much to kill.  I'm glad everyone will get a fair chance at beating stuff now.  Its good that you'll have real competition, not a competition of who gets home first, who has the crappiest life, or who has no other cares at all in life.  We do what we do with folks that work, have kids, have regular jobs, etc (except me, I'm broke ).

T6 was a good measure of who was really good, imo.  Everyone had an equal opportunity to kill the truly hard stuff on a server, and if you beat someone to doing it, you really could say "We were first."

And yeah, we took 2 nights to kill Harla our first time in there ever.  Ouch, you really hit us hard there man.  Good show, we're gonna have to tuck our tails and run now!

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Funny...My guild dominates our server and I would say that 90% of our 31 people have full time jobs and half have families with kids. I think you need to stop making excuses for yourself and realize that the people you are trash talking might actually have a few valid points.

 

In conclusion I would again like to give a warm "Gratz!!" to all the whiners out there. Between instancing the zone and the repair kits that most people now stock up on by the hundreds you have ensured yourself that you will in fact get deathtoll access. I say "ensure" because regardless of how hard the encounter is, given unlimited shots even 24 5-year-olds could beat it. It falls under the catagory of: "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occassionally"

[Gaige]

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Digi-D wrote:

Well Gratz all you Whiners out there,

You have taken the one of the truely challenging parts of this entire expansion and trivialized it. You people still don't understand that part of the challenge in a contested mob is that there are other guilds going for it. You can't just put yourself on an island and beat your fists against a mob until it gets exausted of your antics and finally just lays down. You have to mobilize and execute. If you aren't a well organized raiding force you are either not going to get there in time, or you are going to pull too early and wipe and not get another shot at it.

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Lucky for you each overland zone has a contested encounter.  Since you seem to think that contested are the end all be all that proves a guild's worth I'm sure we'll see an update about the Mutagenic from you, right?

This expansion has plenty of contested (Vrak, Pan, 3 princes, Mutagenic, Hurricanus).  No reason to make quest update mobs for a raid instance that entitles players more quest updates contested.

[Sute]

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Digi-D wrote:

insert nonesense here....

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Thanks for whining about the whiners, you proved lots of points that the "whiners" had.

[Digi]

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Sutexi wrote:

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Digi-D wrote:

insert nonesense here....

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Thanks for whining about the whiners, you proved lots of points that the "whiners" had.

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Way to deal with the issue there big guy. Whats your next move? The classic "Nana-nana-boo-boo? Or were you actually going to explain your statement?

At least Gaige brought up a valid point. I agree this expansion is contested heavy, but the solution to that is to bring out MORE NEW instanced content. Not to screw with an encounter/quest series that I personally thought was very well done. And before you say, "its the same encounter just instanced", please realize that contested encounters have a whole extra level of difficulty added to them because they are contested. Its called competition. Instances have none, and therefore are not the same.

Message Edited by Digi-D on 04-22-2006 12:03 PM

[mikemcmodmi]

It's a good change.  We went weeks with the 3 princes and the mutagenic outcast up on Kithicor but Harla would be down within a couple of hours of her being up every week.  If someone really wanted challenge, they'd go work on the outcast instead of farming an easy mob every week.

[Kraks_Aforty]

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Digi-D wrote:

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Sutexi wrote:

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Digi-D wrote:

insert nonesense here....

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Thanks for whining about the whiners, you proved lots of points that the "whiners" had.

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Way to deal with the issue there big guy. Whats your next move? The classic "Nana-nana-boo-boo? Or were you actually going to explain your statement?

At least Gaige brought up a valid point. I agree this expansion is contested heavy, but the solution to that is to bring out MORE NEW instanced content. Not to screw with an encounter/quest series that I personally thought was very well done. And before you say, "its the same encounter just instanced", please realize that contested encounters have a whole extra level of difficulty added to them because they are contested. Its called competition. Instances have none, and therefore are not the same.

Message Edited by Digi-D on 04-22-2006 12:03 PM

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Competition is fine.  [Removed for Content] is not.  You are complaining cause you can no longer keep people from getting what you have, and that I find sad.  They have playgrounds with sandpits for kiddos like you.

[Digi]

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mikemcmodmike wrote:
It's a good change.  We went weeks with the 3 princes and the mutagenic outcast up on Kithicor but Harla would be down within a couple of hours of her being up every week.  If someone really wanted challenge, they'd go work on the outcast instead of farming an easy mob every week.

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Mutagenic yes, but the princes have been down within 24 hours of spawning the last 3 times guy. And if Harla is such an "Easy" encounter then why did it take 3 guilds and 44+ people to kill it when it finally spawned at a time when Chaotic Legion was already stuck in an instance and couldn't come compete?

[Digi]

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Kraks_Aforty wrote:

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Digi-D wrote:

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Sutexi wrote:

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Digi-D wrote:

insert nonesense here....

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Thanks for whining about the whiners, you proved lots of points that the "whiners" had.

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Way to deal with the issue there big guy. Whats your next move? The classic "Nana-nana-boo-boo? Or were you actually going to explain your statement?

At least Gaige brought up a valid point. I agree this expansion is contested heavy, but the solution to that is to bring out MORE NEW instanced content. Not to screw with an encounter/quest series that I personally thought was very well done. And before you say, "its the same encounter just instanced", please realize that contested encounters have a whole extra level of difficulty added to them because they are contested. Its called competition. Instances have none, and therefore are not the same.

Message Edited by Digi-D on 04-22-2006 12:03 PM

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Competition is fine.  [Removed for Content] is not.  You are complaining cause you can no longer keep people from getting what you have, and that I find sad.  They have playgrounds with sandpits for kiddos like you.

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No, thats not true. I am complaining because once again after the few and the proud have accomplished something SOE has seen fit to lower the bar so that "Joe Average" can have the same opportunities.

[Gaige]

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Digi-D wrote:

No, thats not true. I am complaining because once again after the few and the proud have accomplished something SOE has seen fit to lower the bar so that "Joe Average" can have the same opportunities.

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I see it as fixing a quest design flaw, not lowering the bar.

In all reality with the amount of contested in KoS the DT access dragons had no reason to be contested - considering they lead to an instance which allows further quest updates.

It never made sense to me and I'm glad its being changed.  Afterall you would assume that the designers of DT actually wanted people to use it.

Besides, like others have said, this was never about the challenge of contested content or being the most hardcore guild on the server.  Harla is a pushover and everyone knows it.  As for doing it for the loot - if this is the case then why complain, you can still do Harla in her instance for the loot.

If guilds were doing this because contested is a ultra supreme hardcore challenge and they want to experience that, they'd do the Mutagenic - a true hardcore contested encounter. 

They wouldn't run and wipe out two easy dragons and Harla, its more boring than anything with some blah blah loot.

Guilds did it so they'd be the only guild on their server in DT.  We all know that is the only reason, why skate around the issue.

[Kraks_Aforty]

Yeah, we got into DT first on BB and even before we were in I thought the quest was flawed.  So yeah, we got in the seemingly harder way with a little competition, but we did get in first.  Whine too much and you sound spoiled, especially when you have the server in your hands.

[Digi]

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Gaige wrote:

Guilds did it so they'd be the only guild on their server in DT.  We all know that is the only reason, why skate around the issue.

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Because its not true. At least on our server. The last time we killed Harla Dar Myself and 4 other people in my guild got the Wurmslayer. Next time we kill Harla Dar about 9 people (myself included) will finish Deathtoll access, which gives you a wrist equipable haste item. That item is the reason I want to kill Harla Dar. I could care less who else is in Deathtoll. Not to mention that sooner or later SOE is going to get around to requiring a certain percentage of the raid force to have the access. so we are making sure we have that percentage before we get locked out. The fact remains that the encounter and all its rewards were meant to be earned by taking out this contested, and making it instanced has lowered the bar.

Message Edited by Digi-D on 04-22-2006 12:54 PM