Game Update #30 Preview Feedback - Page 2

KerowynnKaotic · 12-03-2006, 01:05 AM

illaria · 12-03-2006, 01:26 AM

No new class hats again I see.

thepriz · 12-03-2006, 01:49 AM

Espyderman wrote:

Wow how many pages deep was that? LOL. Why couldnt they ANNOUNCE it where i could SEE it. I dont troll these forums and research an answer, i expect an announcement of these issues and thier handling of them. Not some vague response in the 5th page of some topic i never saw.

Nevertheless its good to see them acknowledge it, even if it is well hidden

You don't have to dig to find the dev responces. They have created a way to see every post a dev or moderator posts. See if you can figure it out instead of complaining about somthing that is not really a problem.

Chips · 12-03-2006, 01:53 AM

in case you haven't figured it out yet LU is SOE-speak for nerf, wether ninja nerfed or straight out up in your face decking , all LU's have tweaks somewhere to ruin game play.

Steelbreath · 12-03-2006, 05:45 AM

Really this isn't the appropriate place for whining. This is a brief preview for what is coming, all the changes that will be included in the LU will appear first on Test. Constructive feedback is one thing, threats to cancel accounts, hyperbole on current issues are not

swordfel · 12-03-2006, 07:28 AM

KerowynnKaotic wrote:

swordfel wrote:*snipped*

anyone with new Station Account can log onto playthefae.com this means that in order to use this play the fae trial thing, they must have an account

*snipped*

Station Account is Free. Anyone can open it. It doesn't need a game purchase or even credit card info at the time of creation. It's just username & password and general info. try it .. it's up on the top of your window [ > Join Free ]. That is a Station Account.

To purchase and play a game for monthly fee you would need your station account and when you register your new game (purchased) then and only then does it ask for your credit card info. That turns it into a "real" account. Since only then there would/should be real information on the person who opened the account. The real information can then be used to ban said person for breaking the Eula. Using one of the Trials doesn't require credit card info so there is no real way to ban them. Since million others use hotmail / gmail and etc .. and .. there is no way to find out if they even filled out the info with thier real contact info.

yea, youre right about that, but even then there are restriction on trial accounts as someone above posted, so either way i really dont see how this will effect the number of gold sellers. (not directed at you btw, just a general statement).on a separate note:

Super Cool Guy witha Bag of Chips wrote:
in case you haven't figured it out yet LU is SOE-speak for nerf, wether ninja nerfed or straight out up in your face decking , all LU's have tweaks somewhere to ruin game play.

cry me a river.

Breedlove · 12-03-2006, 07:43 AM

Get Unrest up Devs, I remember the days of Hanging "tight" to the walls pulling mobs and getting ready for a rush into the castle, MAN those were some good times!! And dont make it too low, I just made level 37 SMILEY

CheersFinvarra37 Fae Ranger of Ant Bayle

Autenil-EQ2 · 12-03-2006, 10:18 AM

xOnaton1 wrote:
For those who have forgotten or missed the update, trial accounts are very limited. I would expect that the Play the Fae trial will be the same.
http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stat&message.id=321

Trial of the Isle players:
- Cannot send /tells to players on other servers or games
- Must be on someone's friends list in order to send /tells to them
- Cannot trade with other players
- Cannot be invited into guilds
- Cannot create a guild or assist in the creation of a guild
- Cannot purchase items from the broker or from consignment vendors
- Cannot list items for sale on the broker
- Cannot send or receive in-game mail
- Cannot talk in server-wide chat channels (level channels, class channels, etc.)

The problem we are having with tells selling gold in game now are accounts created with Buddy Keys, I believe, or they are actual purchased accounts. So, don't give away your Buddy Keys to plat sellers and don't sell them.

Obviously, the best solution to plat selling is to not buy plat and do not tolerate anyone that does.

Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLere
Vaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere

Message Edited by xOnaton1 on 12-02-2006 11:07 AM

That's correct. Play the Fae is under the same restrictions as Trial of the Isle. Some of the restrictions (about creating guilds, buying from brokers, etc.) probably make a bit more sense now :smileyhappy:

There will be at least one additional restriction: Play the Fae accounts will not be able to purchase player housing.

Bad_Mojo · 12-03-2006, 10:55 AM

Is there going to be another "discuss the update" thread when there's more meat to it? I'll be honest, I don't consider either of the two items listed in the preview a legitimate update.

The Frostfell event is just that, an event. It's not permanent and will be gone a couple of weeks after it starts - it's not updating anything really.

The "play the fae" is cool, but like Frostfell it isn't really an update per say?

Keeping my fingers crossed for more good news on the next update to the update! :smileywink:

ironman2000 · 12-03-2006, 03:13 PM

Game Update 30: Preview
Game Update 30: Preview
Welcome to the official Preview for Game Update 30! This is a season of celebration for Norrath: the plentiful harvest is in, there is a crisp bite in the air, and the joyous laughter of the sylvan Fae rings across the land. Even the evil races are in the holiday mood, observing the season with quiet contemplation, and planning the deeds and adventures ahead.

Frostfell
Frostfell is a Deepice celebration whose origins are shrouded in mystery. Some historians believe that the festival was started by a demigod during the Lost Ages, when all of Norrath was under curse and no gods helped Norrathians – save one. This one, whoever it may have been, visited Norrath in secrecy and hid gifts of food and other supplies around Norrath to aid what was left of the populace at the time. Since then, Frostfell has come to be a community event. The Dark Elves and other evil races also participate in this season, although they believe that the gifts are the result of their own hard work and prowess.

Frostfell is a time for families and friends to come together and renew their bonds of kinship, a time when food and gifts are shared throughout the community, a celebration full of singing and quiet contemplation, parades, dances and meditations, and chipmunks roasting on an open fire. Players can expect plenty of fun, quirky quests and beautiful decorations – both the store-bought kind and the hand-made kind. Plus, log in each day to claim your special present!

Tag! You're It!
In addition to the customary Frostfell fun, we also have a special treat for you this year: games of Frostfell Candycane Grab'n'Tag for fun and prizes! These games will start every couple of hours in Freeport, Qeynos and Kelethin. Everyone is welcome to participate – but if you aren't feeling so adventurous at first, feel free to hang around and watch the excitement from the sidelines. When you're ready to join in, just sign up with the registrar.

Here's how it works: All you have to do is pick up more candy canes than anyone else. Sounds simple, right? Well, when the game starts, one person is randomly picked to be "it". The person who is "it" cannot pick up candy canes – instead, they need to chase down and tag someone else to be "it." The games move quickly and the winner gets a prize and their name posted on the scoreboard, so don't lollygag around – get dodging and tagging!

Play the Fae
As you can see, there's lots of fun headed your way with Game Update 30! But we also wanted to mention a special addition coming even before that.

The EverQuest II team is extremely proud of the Echoes of Faydwer expansion. We're looking forward to sharing it with all our friends and family over the holidays – and we hope you will too! In order to make the expansion accessible to all we will be launching a new trial program called Play the Fae. Starting on December 5th, anyone with new Station Account can log onto playthefae.com (.fr and .de for French and German) and try out a new Fae character through the Play the Fae 7-day free trial. This trial is similar to the Trial of the Isle, but it adds the ability to start in Greater Faydark as a Fae or any of the other races that can begin there. Your first character has to be a fae, and once you've been in game and checked it out, you can be anything that Trial of the Isle would let you be.

This update promises to be filled with excitement and fun! Goodness knows we're excited, and we sincerely hope that you are too. So have a good weekend, and we'll see you in Norrath!

Frostfell is great and all, but I want extra slots on my account to REALLY create a Fae. What about "The Estate of Unrest" and the Fae betrayal or evil Fae if you guys are going that route? All I want for Frostfell is the ability to create a Fae on my account without having to delete any of my current characters, and not seeing this kinda puts a BAH-HUMBUG in my stocking. Matter of fact till I see extra slots, Fae Betrayal, issues with the new combat system (like the tanks in cloth tanking better bug) and stuff that should have been in from Echoes of Faydwer (Estate of Unrest), i'll be celebrating over at World of Warcraft this year.......:smileysad: (Not that its the place I would rather be, but at least it feels finished at the moment) Seriously, I think you guys should have taken all the suggestions, from the beta testers, to push launch of EoF launch back a few more weeks, because it wasn't ready and still isn't :smileysadmyself included). Oh and how about getting my guilds website fixed, since the pictures still don't show and no one can log into it AT ALL, since EoF launch and EQ2players.com upgrade.

Message Edited by ironman2000 on 12-03-2006 02:18 AM

Rastaah · 12-03-2006, 04:43 PM

Maybe this is a small fun holiday update guys. The other stuff you want just may not be ready. And why deny the holiday fun just because the serious stuff is not ready.

Gorth · 12-03-2006, 06:27 PM

Nothing in there about the hordes of tinkering issues that devs have refused to make even a 'we're looking into it' comment about since EoF release...

Arhan · 12-03-2006, 06:29 PM

How about some snow flying and on the ground in the major cities and maybe antonica/commonlands? That defiantely is what was missing last year. Snowmans etc were out in the sun. It just seemed strange SMILEY

I think that would really help Frostfell.... Make it look like Everfrost or something SMILEY

!

superdave · 12-03-2006, 08:08 PM

All the fixes should have been done yesterday, no? why should we have to wait on issues that pile up by the day. i understand it takes time yes. why this long? its been months for new class hats they promised. yes i am not just talking about eof bugs. that just gives me a head ache. oh great frostfell is here.

Kinuun · 12-03-2006, 08:34 PM

Nightmoon wrote:
Well in regards to the Fae betrayal, all I know is everything I have read since the interviews started about EoF is that Fae are a good race and will not be betraying to evil classes. I have never seen a post or a comment or interview which says otherwise. A good example is the interview with Scott Hartsman from Online Gaming Radio. from what I have read, the plan is that Fae are a good race and in the future a stricly evil race with come out. Obviously I could be wrong or just speculating, but particularly strong evidence is when they ask Scott "With the expansion right now Fae’s are only able to select good and neutral classes. Are there plans to change that going forward?" and he answers "Well there will definitely not be the Fae, I don’t want to talk about to much of what we are doing in the future beyond Echoes of Faydwer, but one thing you will definitely not be seeing is a race that is called Fae that is able to be everything."

I searched for the link to provide and its here at the bottom of the first page. http://radio.ogaming.com/data/4235%7EEQ2%27sDayHartsman.php

It makes sense to me, a wholly good race not being able to be evil classes, while in the future there will be an evil race that cannot be good. I agree that it adds flavor to the game. If we have classes that cannot do everything but specialize in certain areas why not have races that are the same.

I also hope that the gameplay issues are worked on for GU30.
I was just thinking about that when reading this thread, besides, we don't need you pathetic creatures in out powerful empire!*Cough* Arsai *Cough*
Autenil wrote:

xOnaton1 wrote:

For those who have forgotten or missed the update, trial accounts are very limited. I would expect that the Play the Fae trial will be the same.http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stat&message.id=321
Trial of the Isle players:- Cannot send /tells to players on other servers or games- Must be on someone's friends list in order to send /tells to them- Cannot trade with other players- Cannot be invited into guilds- Cannot create a guild or assist in the creation of a guild- Cannot purchase items from the broker or from consignment vendors- Cannot list items for sale on the broker- Cannot send or receive in-game mail- Cannot talk in server-wide chat channels (level channels, class channels, etc.)
The problem we are having with tells selling gold in game now are accounts created with Buddy Keys, I believe, or they are actual purchased accounts. So, don't give away your Buddy Keys to plat sellers and don't sell them.Obviously, the best solution to plat selling is to not buy plat and do not tolerate anyone that does.Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLereVaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere

Message Edited by xOnaton1 on 12-02-2006 11:07 AM

That's correct. Play the Fae is under the same restrictions as Trial of the Isle. Some of the restrictions (about creating guilds, buying from brokers, etc.) probably make a bit more sense now :smileyhappy:

There will be at least one additional restriction: Play the Fae accounts will not be able to purchase player housing.
See there ya go. Stop complaining!! (Ofcourse, I've always wondered why those trial accounts didn't have their own server... Sure it would practically empty but it would get rid of the stupid plat mail.)Now its time for my one and only complaint. NO UNREST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Message Edited by Kinuun on 12-03-2006 04:52 PM

Kru · 12-03-2006, 09:33 PM

Nightmoon wrote:
Well in regards to the Fae betrayal, all I know is everything I have read since the interviews started about EoF is that Fae are a good race and will not be betraying to evil classes. I have never seen a post or a comment or interview which says otherwise. A good example is the interview with Scott Hartsman from Online Gaming Radio. from what I have read, the plan is that Fae are a good race and in the future a stricly evil race with come out. Obviously I could be wrong or just speculating, but particularly strong evidence is when they ask Scott "With the expansion right now Fae’s are only able to select good and neutral classes. Are there plans to change that going forward?" and he answers "Well there will definitely not be the Fae, I don’t want to talk about to much of what we are doing in the future beyond Echoes of Faydwer, but one thing you will definitely not be seeing is a race that is called Fae that is able to be everything."
I searched for the link to provide and its here at the bottom of the first page. http://radio.ogaming.com/data/4235%7EEQ2%27sDayHartsman.php
It makes sense to me, a wholly good race not being able to be evil classes, while in the future there will be an evil race that cannot be good. I agree that it adds flavor to the game. If we have classes that cannot do everything but specialize in certain areas why not have races that are the same.
I also hope that the gameplay issues are worked on for GU30.

Apparently you're very wrong.Quote:

"Just confirming - The ability for Fae to betray citizenship is something that we had hoped to have in for launch, but was never on the list of things that were guaranteed, and shouldn't have been put in the FAQ. That's my fault, and I am sorry for missing the mention in there. I'll get the FAQ part addressed for now, at least.

The ability for them to betray is coming, and you'll be able to read about it first on the In Testing forums."

____Scott HartsmanSenior Producer, EverQuest II

--------------------------Based on this, I made a Fae character and have been levelling him up so I can betray in the future. I will be very upset if I find out Fae's will not be able to betray. I doubt Mr. Hartsman would make false statements to the community. If he is lying, I will have wasted a lot of time for absolutely nothing. I'm not worrying too much about it though, I have no reason to not trust him..

Feneant · 12-03-2006, 11:40 PM

Why are you asking us for feedback when your 'preview' doesn't actually show a thing? It's not even a tease, it looks like the text of someone who nearly missed a deadline and threw together something.It's Frostfell and there will be a few quests, a game and items to buy. - This might be fun for a night or two if the zones aren't too laggy to movePeople can now try the game as a Fae. - Unless you require a credit card to sign up, this will only increase spam to player.Is there an actual game update behind this?Are we expecting any bug fixes? Enhancements? changes resulting from player feedback? The new expansion (which if it had been released as the original game would probably have doubled or tripled the player base) is fantastic, but after a month of having tens of thousands of us playing and submitting feedback, bugs, enhancements, etc... I would expect to see some changes in this live update.

Josgar · 12-03-2006, 11:55 PM

They never show the whole thing in a preview... when you see a movie preveiw does it show you the movie entirely? Give SOE a break, because they probabbly have more than just frostfel, they can withold information about their next patch with they want to.

xOnaton1 · 12-04-2006, 02:04 AM

HmmmmmmmmI think these previews just manage to bring out every whiner and "Fix Teh Game DEVS!!!" people. The preview is supposed to give you a taste of interesting things in the coming Game Update, but all the whiners want are fixes to their game yesterday. I think, in the past, the previews were posted at the same time as the actual test update notes. That way you could get the taste from the preview and if you really wanted to know more, you could just check in the Test Update Notes forum. By posting just the preview, all you get is "Where is my class hat?" and "When are you going to fix my resists/avoidance/plat spam/nose flute?" The players want bugs fixed, Unrest, Fae betrayal and..... guess what? I'm pretty sure the devs do too.I remember hearing about the Frostfell tag game a couple podcasts ago and it sounds really fun. I still have probably over 100 snowballs on each of my characters ready to fire off when I feel the urge. The podcast also mentioned that crafters will be able to make a lot of holiday items, like fruitcakes to eat, and also to use as weapons! :smileysurprised:So, anyway, I would suggest only posting a preview when you can also post the actual test update notes.Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLereVaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere

Kinuun · 12-04-2006, 02:51 AM

For all of you complaining about tanking changes not being in this GU, I found this;http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=119267#M119267

Message Edited by Kinuun on 12-03-2006 04:53 PM

Forsaken Falc · 12-04-2006, 09:53 AM

Oh Joy....

Frostfell again..... Just like it was the halloween & new's year's event that were 100% identical for the last 2 year's.......

Oh wow we can go to a tiny [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] elf for a random collourded sockeing what fun!

As for tag...."tag You'r It"! "I'm questing so idk I aint running arounf for hour's jepodiseing My quest for useless crap".......

Seriously SOE think up some new [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 4 once....

su · 12-04-2006, 12:46 PM

Most mmorpgs are like that eqoa and final fantasy 11 did same thing 3 years straight then last year soemthing new... I would of made soemthing like deleaver presents for santa played by a dwarf named nick or because he broke his leg or drank to much ale.. like 12 difrent quests... and if i tryed to make the north pole i wouldnt of saved time and money and used a chunk of everfrost lol...lame...

But i dont call the shots.... All i want is a circus filled with carnies and ale! BUT NOOO!! And NO I will never play WoW again...WAY to LAME and ZZZZZZ......

I want hardcore mmorpg action people and Bring ON the beared dwarf girls and lock the gnomes out!

Ok night night 4 me

Dewlix · 12-04-2006, 04:26 PM

When is this update suppose to take place?

Grimquest · 12-04-2006, 05:18 PM

Some of you eggheads need to take a break from the game…

I can’t believe that you guys are crying over the game like it’s some sort of live or die decision that will change the history of the world… Freeekin Nurds…

Shut the heel up and enjoy what they have to offer or, for gawds sake, venture out from your hole and visit the real world for a while.

Oh yeah, Merry Christmas…

Brightstrid · 12-04-2006, 05:21 PM

A very simple way of stopping the spams from platt farmers would be as someone else has said before is to be flagged as roleplaying/anon! Now i know alot of you dont always like this as it means if you are LFG your class is not stated, so for the simple part, if annon, still have the option of showing your class also this would be a great feature

.Also when u go afk you are able to add a short message afterwards that people can read like "in the bath" etc, so why not have it that you can do the same when LFG, for example if u click on someones name who is LFG you could see a short message from the player like LFG obi/mc/bm/den. That way players could see what people are looking for before sending them a tell.

Now this is just an idea the option of having your class shown when you are tagged as anon/roleplaying makes sense (if u are a roleplayer, then u would want people to know your class/race if you want them to speak to you in a roleplayable way)

If people think this is a good idea, then plz say, but once again, dont flame away, SOE never seem to listen when being flamed, i know that for sure SMILEY

As for the update, like any update, its just a sneek peek, and not stating any game mechanics/classes etc that will be changed, they basically told a short story and we will all have to wait and see.

Argyuile · 12-04-2006, 06:42 PM

bender9753 wrote:
Raijinn Thunderguard wrote:
Use this thread to discuss the Game Update #30 Preview feature.
Message Edited by Raijinn Thunderguard on 12-01-2006 05:38 PM
I just want to know one thing will the fae be able to betray on this update. if not when will they

Why not just scrip the chistmas crap all together this year and focus on the countless unadressed bugs instead hrm.

Cuz · 12-04-2006, 07:47 PM

Grimquester wrote:

Some of you eggheads need to take a break from the game…

I can’t believe that you guys are crying over the game like it’s some sort of live or die decision that will change the history of the world… Freeekin Nurds…

Shut the heel up and enjoy what they have to offer or, for gawds sake, venture out from your hole and visit the real world for a while.

Oh yeah, Merry Christmas…

Feel better now?

Argyuile · 12-04-2006, 08:17 PM

Jenoy wrote:

Grimquester wrote:

Some of you eggheads need to take a break from the game…

I can’t believe that you guys are crying over the game like it’s some sort of live or die decision that will change the history of the world… Freeekin Nurds…

Shut the heel up and enjoy what they have to offer or, for gawds sake, venture out from your hole and visit the real world for a while.

Oh yeah, Merry Christmas…

Feel better now?

You cry about people crying. YOU WIN TEH MESSAGE BOARDS!!

Equinon · 12-04-2006, 08:29 PM

Well, since you requested feedback on the update (and hopefully on the game and SoE's performance on a Pay to Play game), here is my input:

1. Fix tinkering. 100 raws to craft 1 item? 11 rares to craft an expendable item? C'Mon, you're smarter than that.

2. Fix your website. Over half your website is bugged. Not minor bugs either.

3. Fix our guild sites. You have massive posts on your forums about people that can't log in properly to their guild forums. Massive posts about pics and info no longer being on the site. Info that your Paying subscribers worked very hard to get onto that site.

4. Introduce Holiday Style Fun that is even remotely equivalent to some of the things you did in EQ1. Seriously, EQ2 is suppose to be a more advanced game, but the holiday content in EQ1 was (and still is) FAR BETTER than anything you've done in EQ2. *remembers the halloween event where Sony brought the skeletons down for the Plane of Fear to wreak havoc on the lands of Norrath, all with drops that were appropriate to a players level (not this level 1, can be used by anybody junk).*

5. Work harder on your bugs and known issues than you do on expansions. It's great to have new stuff and new areas, but if what you already have isn't working properly then maybe you are concentrating your employment base too hard on the areas that need it least.

6. Learn one strong rule before you do anything else............."IF IT ISN'T BROKEN, DON'T FIX IT!!!"..........taking a web site that is working (mostly) very well and to *impress* whomever, you decide to re-vamp the site into some kind of broken, half thrown together, junk site that has hardly anything working correctly? Wow, personally, I'm not impressed ;P

Sadly, we pay for this. Some of it, we actually pay extra for SMILEY To put it in perspective.....if you buy something from ANY store out there and it doesn't work, don't you expect a replacement, a fix, or a refund in a timely manner? Well, until SoE actually get's things working correctly, they should at least show us something for all the stuff that we pay for that doesn't work! I really don't care what it is, one extra week of playtime added to your account, a free month, a free in-game xp and txp potion? Seriously, anything but another house item.

Anything would be nice, just to say "We are very sorry for the inconvenience to your service you are Paying for. Here, on behalf of Sony, please accept this *yadda yadda* as way of us thanking you for your continued support while we try to fix these known issues." Wow, that would be just too darned easy SMILEY [Removed for Content]

Okay, I'm done, all those that like to pick a post apart and those that like to just flame..........you may start.......Now SMILEY

Cuz · 12-04-2006, 08:56 PM

Argyuile wrote:

Jenoy wrote:

Grimquester wrote:

Some of you eggheads need to take a break from the game…

I can’t believe that you guys are crying over the game like it’s some sort of live or die decision that will change the history of the world… Freeekin Nurds…

Shut the heel up and enjoy what they have to offer or, for gawds sake, venture out from your hole and visit the real world for a while.

Oh yeah, Merry Christmas…

Feel better now?

You cry about people crying. YOU WIN TEH MESSAGE BOARDS!!

Sorry I find it stupid when people give feedback, when it's asked, and someone seemingly gets vexed at them. Maybe they should have called the thread Game Update #30 Preview Compliments?

12-03-2006, 01:05 AM	#31
KerowynnKaotic Tormentor of Fae Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Middle of Nowhere, Arizona Posts: 1,862	Trackers: Development \| Moderators \| Tech Support \| Game Masters \| Web Team \| International __________________

12-03-2006, 01:26 AM	#32
illaria Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: nektulos Posts: 592	No new class hats again I see. __________________

12-03-2006, 01:49 AM	#33
thepriz Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 219	Espyderman wrote: Wow how many pages deep was that? LOL. Why couldnt they ANNOUNCE it where i could SEE it. I dont troll these forums and research an answer, i expect an announcement of these issues and thier handling of them. Not some vague response in the 5th page of some topic i never saw. Nevertheless its good to see them acknowledge it, even if it is well hidden You don't have to dig to find the dev responces. They have created a way to see every post a dev or moderator posts. See if you can figure it out instead of complaining about somthing that is not really a problem. __________________

12-03-2006, 07:28 AM	#36
swordfel Lord Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 72	KerowynnKaotic wrote: swordfel wrote:snipped anyone with new Station Account can log onto playthefae.com this means that in order to use this play the fae trial thing, they must have an account snipped Station Account is Free. Anyone can open it. It doesn't need a game purchase or even credit card info at the time of creation. It's just username & password and general info. try it .. it's up on the top of your window [ > Join Free ]. That is a Station Account. To purchase and play a game for monthly fee you would need your station account and when you register your new game (purchased) then and only then does it ask for your credit card info. That turns it into a "real" account. Since only then there would/should be real information on the person who opened the account. The real information can then be used to ban said person for breaking the Eula. Using one of the Trials doesn't require credit card info so there is no real way to ban them. Since million others use hotmail / gmail and etc .. and .. there is no way to find out if they even filled out the info with thier real contact info. yea, youre right about that, but even then there are restriction on trial accounts as someone above posted, so either way i really dont see how this will effect the number of gold sellers. (not directed at you btw, just a general statement).on a separate note: Super Cool Guy witha Bag of Chips wrote: in case you haven't figured it out yet LU is SOE-speak for nerf, wether ninja nerfed or straight out up in your face decking , all LU's have tweaks somewhere to ruin game play. cry me a river. __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________________ Hi, my name is Paper. Nerf Scissors, Rock is fine. __________________________________________________ ___________________________

12-03-2006, 07:43 AM	#37
Breedlove Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 7	Get Unrest up Devs, I remember the days of Hanging "tight" to the walls pulling mobs and getting ready for a rush into the castle, MAN those were some good times!! And dont make it too low, I just made level 37 CheersFinvarra37 Fae Ranger of Ant Bayle

12-03-2006, 01:53 AM	#34
Chips Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 150	in case you haven't figured it out yet LU is SOE-speak for nerf, wether ninja nerfed or straight out up in your face decking , all LU's have tweaks somewhere to ruin game play.

12-03-2006, 05:45 AM	#35
Steelbreath Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 37	Really this isn't the appropriate place for whining. This is a brief preview for what is coming, all the changes that will be included in the LU will appear first on Test. Constructive feedback is one thing, threats to cancel accounts, hyperbole on current issues are not

12-03-2006, 10:18 AM	#38
Autenil-EQ2 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 36	xOnaton1 wrote: For those who have forgotten or missed the update, trial accounts are very limited. I would expect that the Play the Fae trial will be the same. http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stat&message.id=321 Trial of the Isle players: - Cannot send /tells to players on other servers or games - Must be on someone's friends list in order to send /tells to them - Cannot trade with other players - Cannot be invited into guilds - Cannot create a guild or assist in the creation of a guild - Cannot purchase items from the broker or from consignment vendors - Cannot list items for sale on the broker - Cannot send or receive in-game mail - Cannot talk in server-wide chat channels (level channels, class channels, etc.) The problem we are having with tells selling gold in game now are accounts created with Buddy Keys, I believe, or they are actual purchased accounts. So, don't give away your Buddy Keys to plat sellers and don't sell them. Obviously, the best solution to plat selling is to not buy plat and do not tolerate anyone that does. Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLere Vaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere Message Edited by xOnaton1 on 12-02-2006 11:07 AM That's correct. Play the Fae is under the same restrictions as Trial of the Isle. Some of the restrictions (about creating guilds, buying from brokers, etc.) probably make a bit more sense now :smileyhappy: There will be at least one additional restriction: Play the Fae accounts will not be able to purchase player housing. __________________ Joshua "Autenil" Kriegshauser Senior Programmer, EverQuest II Sony Online Entertainment

12-03-2006, 10:55 AM	#39
Bad_Mojo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 341	Is there going to be another "discuss the update" thread when there's more meat to it? I'll be honest, I don't consider either of the two items listed in the preview a legitimate update. The Frostfell event is just that, an event. It's not permanent and will be gone a couple of weeks after it starts - it's not updating anything really. The "play the fae" is cool, but like Frostfell it isn't really an update per say? Keeping my fingers crossed for more good news on the next update to the update! :smileywink:

12-03-2006, 03:13 PM	#40
ironman2000 Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 238	Game Update 30: Preview Game Update 30: Preview Welcome to the official Preview for Game Update 30! This is a season of celebration for Norrath: the plentiful harvest is in, there is a crisp bite in the air, and the joyous laughter of the sylvan Fae rings across the land. Even the evil races are in the holiday mood, observing the season with quiet contemplation, and planning the deeds and adventures ahead. Frostfell Frostfell is a Deepice celebration whose origins are shrouded in mystery. Some historians believe that the festival was started by a demigod during the Lost Ages, when all of Norrath was under curse and no gods helped Norrathians – save one. This one, whoever it may have been, visited Norrath in secrecy and hid gifts of food and other supplies around Norrath to aid what was left of the populace at the time. Since then, Frostfell has come to be a community event. The Dark Elves and other evil races also participate in this season, although they believe that the gifts are the result of their own hard work and prowess. Frostfell is a time for families and friends to come together and renew their bonds of kinship, a time when food and gifts are shared throughout the community, a celebration full of singing and quiet contemplation, parades, dances and meditations, and chipmunks roasting on an open fire. Players can expect plenty of fun, quirky quests and beautiful decorations – both the store-bought kind and the hand-made kind. Plus, log in each day to claim your special present! Tag! You're It! In addition to the customary Frostfell fun, we also have a special treat for you this year: games of Frostfell Candycane Grab'n'Tag for fun and prizes! These games will start every couple of hours in Freeport, Qeynos and Kelethin. Everyone is welcome to participate – but if you aren't feeling so adventurous at first, feel free to hang around and watch the excitement from the sidelines. When you're ready to join in, just sign up with the registrar. Here's how it works: All you have to do is pick up more candy canes than anyone else. Sounds simple, right? Well, when the game starts, one person is randomly picked to be "it". The person who is "it" cannot pick up candy canes – instead, they need to chase down and tag someone else to be "it." The games move quickly and the winner gets a prize and their name posted on the scoreboard, so don't lollygag around – get dodging and tagging! Play the Fae As you can see, there's lots of fun headed your way with Game Update 30! But we also wanted to mention a special addition coming even before that. The EverQuest II team is extremely proud of the Echoes of Faydwer expansion. We're looking forward to sharing it with all our friends and family over the holidays – and we hope you will too! In order to make the expansion accessible to all we will be launching a new trial program called Play the Fae. Starting on December 5th, anyone with new Station Account can log onto playthefae.com (.fr and .de for French and German) and try out a new Fae character through the Play the Fae 7-day free trial. This trial is similar to the Trial of the Isle, but it adds the ability to start in Greater Faydark as a Fae or any of the other races that can begin there. Your first character has to be a fae, and once you've been in game and checked it out, you can be anything that Trial of the Isle would let you be. This update promises to be filled with excitement and fun! Goodness knows we're excited, and we sincerely hope that you are too. So have a good weekend, and we'll see you in Norrath! Frostfell is great and all, but I want extra slots on my account to REALLY create a Fae. What about "The Estate of Unrest" and the Fae betrayal or evil Fae if you guys are going that route? All I want for Frostfell is the ability to create a Fae on my account without having to delete any of my current characters, and not seeing this kinda puts a BAH-HUMBUG in my stocking. Matter of fact till I see extra slots, Fae Betrayal, issues with the new combat system (like the tanks in cloth tanking better bug) and stuff that should have been in from Echoes of Faydwer (Estate of Unrest), i'll be celebrating over at World of Warcraft this year.......:smileysad: (Not that its the place I would rather be, but at least it feels finished at the moment) Seriously, I think you guys should have taken all the suggestions, from the beta testers, to push launch of EoF launch back a few more weeks, because it wasn't ready and still isn't :smileysadmyself included). Oh and how about getting my guilds website fixed, since the pictures still don't show and no one can log into it AT ALL, since EoF launch and EQ2players.com upgrade. Message Edited by ironman2000 on 12-03-2006 02:18 AM

12-03-2006, 04:43 PM	#41
Rastaah Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Big Bear Lake, Cali Posts: 225	Maybe this is a small fun holiday update guys. The other stuff you want just may not be ready. And why deny the holiday fun just because the serious stuff is not ready.

12-03-2006, 06:27 PM	#42
Gorth General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 98	Nothing in there about the hordes of tinkering issues that devs have refused to make even a 'we're looking into it' comment about since EoF release...

12-03-2006, 06:29 PM	#43
Arhan Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 78	How about some snow flying and on the ground in the major cities and maybe antonica/commonlands? That defiantely is what was missing last year. Snowmans etc were out in the sun. It just seemed strange I think that would really help Frostfell.... Make it look like Everfrost or something ! __________________ Arhan Aldaron Guild Leader of The Knights of Dawn Fire Ranger and Woodworker Unrest

12-03-2006, 08:08 PM	#44
superdave Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 95	All the fixes should have been done yesterday, no? why should we have to wait on issues that pile up by the day. i understand it takes time yes. why this long? its been months for new class hats they promised. yes i am not just talking about eof bugs. that just gives me a head ache. oh great frostfell is here.

12-03-2006, 08:34 PM	#45
Kinuun Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Posts: 30	Nightmoon wrote: Well in regards to the Fae betrayal, all I know is everything I have read since the interviews started about EoF is that Fae are a good race and will not be betraying to evil classes. I have never seen a post or a comment or interview which says otherwise. A good example is the interview with Scott Hartsman from Online Gaming Radio. from what I have read, the plan is that Fae are a good race and in the future a stricly evil race with come out. Obviously I could be wrong or just speculating, but particularly strong evidence is when they ask Scott "With the expansion right now Fae’s are only able to select good and neutral classes. Are there plans to change that going forward?" and he answers "Well there will definitely not be the Fae, I don’t want to talk about to much of what we are doing in the future beyond Echoes of Faydwer, but one thing you will definitely not be seeing is a race that is called Fae that is able to be everything." I searched for the link to provide and its here at the bottom of the first page. http://radio.ogaming.com/data/4235%7EEQ2%27sDayHartsman.php It makes sense to me, a wholly good race not being able to be evil classes, while in the future there will be an evil race that cannot be good. I agree that it adds flavor to the game. If we have classes that cannot do everything but specialize in certain areas why not have races that are the same. I also hope that the gameplay issues are worked on for GU30. I was just thinking about that when reading this thread, besides, we don't need you pathetic creatures in out powerful empire!Cough Arsai Cough Autenil wrote: xOnaton1 wrote: For those who have forgotten or missed the update, trial accounts are very limited. I would expect that the Play the Fae trial will be the same.http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stat&message.id=321 Trial of the Isle players:- Cannot send /tells to players on other servers or games- Must be on someone's friends list in order to send /tells to them- Cannot trade with other players- Cannot be invited into guilds- Cannot create a guild or assist in the creation of a guild- Cannot purchase items from the broker or from consignment vendors- Cannot list items for sale on the broker- Cannot send or receive in-game mail- Cannot talk in server-wide chat channels (level channels, class channels, etc.) The problem we are having with tells selling gold in game now are accounts created with Buddy Keys, I believe, or they are actual purchased accounts. So, don't give away your Buddy Keys to plat sellers and don't sell them.Obviously, the best solution to plat selling is to not buy plat and do not tolerate anyone that does.Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLereVaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere Message Edited by xOnaton1 on 12-02-2006 11:07 AM That's correct. Play the Fae is under the same restrictions as Trial of the Isle. Some of the restrictions (about creating guilds, buying from brokers, etc.) probably make a bit more sense now :smileyhappy: There will be at least one additional restriction: Play the Fae accounts will not be able to purchase player housing. See there ya go. Stop complaining!! (Ofcourse, I've always wondered why those trial accounts didn't have their own server... Sure it would practically empty but it would get rid of the stupid plat mail.)Now its time for my one and only complaint. NO UNREST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message Edited by Kinuun on 12-03-2006 04:52 PM __________________ Stjimmy - 70 Berserker/50 Jeweler, Guk server. (Semi-Retired)

12-03-2006, 09:33 PM	#46
Kru General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 328	Nightmoon wrote: Well in regards to the Fae betrayal, all I know is everything I have read since the interviews started about EoF is that Fae are a good race and will not be betraying to evil classes. I have never seen a post or a comment or interview which says otherwise. A good example is the interview with Scott Hartsman from Online Gaming Radio. from what I have read, the plan is that Fae are a good race and in the future a stricly evil race with come out. Obviously I could be wrong or just speculating, but particularly strong evidence is when they ask Scott "With the expansion right now Fae’s are only able to select good and neutral classes. Are there plans to change that going forward?" and he answers "Well there will definitely not be the Fae, I don’t want to talk about to much of what we are doing in the future beyond Echoes of Faydwer, but one thing you will definitely not be seeing is a race that is called Fae that is able to be everything." I searched for the link to provide and its here at the bottom of the first page. http://radio.ogaming.com/data/4235%7EEQ2%27sDayHartsman.php It makes sense to me, a wholly good race not being able to be evil classes, while in the future there will be an evil race that cannot be good. I agree that it adds flavor to the game. If we have classes that cannot do everything but specialize in certain areas why not have races that are the same. I also hope that the gameplay issues are worked on for GU30. Apparently you're very wrong.Quote: "Just confirming - The ability for Fae to betray citizenship is something that we had hoped to have in for launch, but was never on the list of things that were guaranteed, and shouldn't have been put in the FAQ. That's my fault, and I am sorry for missing the mention in there. I'll get the FAQ part addressed for now, at least. The ability for them to betray is coming, and you'll be able to read about it first on the In Testing forums." ____Scott HartsmanSenior Producer, EverQuest II --------------------------Based on this, I made a Fae character and have been levelling him up so I can betray in the future. I will be very upset if I find out Fae's will not be able to betray. I doubt Mr. Hartsman would make false statements to the community. If he is lying, I will have wasted a lot of time for absolutely nothing. I'm not worrying too much about it though, I have no reason to not trust him.. __________________

12-03-2006, 11:40 PM	#47
Feneant Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	Why are you asking us for feedback when your 'preview' doesn't actually show a thing? It's not even a tease, it looks like the text of someone who nearly missed a deadline and threw together something.It's Frostfell and there will be a few quests, a game and items to buy. - This might be fun for a night or two if the zones aren't too laggy to movePeople can now try the game as a Fae. - Unless you require a credit card to sign up, this will only increase spam to player.Is there an actual game update behind this?Are we expecting any bug fixes? Enhancements? changes resulting from player feedback? The new expansion (which if it had been released as the original game would probably have doubled or tripled the player base) is fantastic, but after a month of having tens of thousands of us playing and submitting feedback, bugs, enhancements, etc... I would expect to see some changes in this live update.

12-03-2006, 11:55 PM	#48
Josgar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,606	They never show the whole thing in a preview... when you see a movie preveiw does it show you the movie entirely? Give SOE a break, because they probabbly have more than just frostfel, they can withold information about their next patch with they want to.

12-04-2006, 02:04 AM	#49
xOnaton1 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 829	HmmmmmmmmI think these previews just manage to bring out every whiner and "Fix Teh Game DEVS!!!" people. The preview is supposed to give you a taste of interesting things in the coming Game Update, but all the whiners want are fixes to their game yesterday. I think, in the past, the previews were posted at the same time as the actual test update notes. That way you could get the taste from the preview and if you really wanted to know more, you could just check in the Test Update Notes forum. By posting just the preview, all you get is "Where is my class hat?" and "When are you going to fix my resists/avoidance/plat spam/nose flute?" The players want bugs fixed, Unrest, Fae betrayal and..... guess what? I'm pretty sure the devs do too.I remember hearing about the Frostfell tag game a couple podcasts ago and it sounds really fun. I still have probably over 100 snowballs on each of my characters ready to fire off when I feel the urge. The podcast also mentioned that crafters will be able to make a lot of holiday items, like fruitcakes to eat, and also to use as weapons! :smileysurprised:So, anyway, I would suggest only posting a preview when you can also post the actual test update notes.Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLereVaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere

12-04-2006, 02:51 AM	#50
Kinuun Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Posts: 30	For all of you complaining about tanking changes not being in this GU, I found this;http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=combat&message.id=119267#M119267 Message Edited by Kinuun on 12-03-2006 04:53 PM __________________ Stjimmy - 70 Berserker/50 Jeweler, Guk server. (Semi-Retired)

12-04-2006, 09:53 AM	#51
Forsaken Falc General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 140	Oh Joy.... Frostfell again..... Just like it was the halloween & new's year's event that were 100% identical for the last 2 year's....... Oh wow we can go to a tiny [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] elf for a random collourded sockeing what fun! As for tag...."tag You'r It"! "I'm questing so idk I aint running arounf for hour's jepodiseing My quest for useless crap"....... Seriously SOE think up some new [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 4 once....

12-04-2006, 12:46 PM	#52
su Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 20	Most mmorpgs are like that eqoa and final fantasy 11 did same thing 3 years straight then last year soemthing new... I would of made soemthing like deleaver presents for santa played by a dwarf named nick or because he broke his leg or drank to much ale.. like 12 difrent quests... and if i tryed to make the north pole i wouldnt of saved time and money and used a chunk of everfrost lol...lame... But i dont call the shots.... All i want is a circus filled with carnies and ale! BUT NOOO!! And NO I will never play WoW again...WAY to LAME and ZZZZZZ...... I want hardcore mmorpg action people and Bring ON the beared dwarf girls and lock the gnomes out! Ok night night 4 me __________________ LV 64Paladin

12-04-2006, 04:26 PM	#53
Dewlix Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 116	When is this update suppose to take place? __________________

12-04-2006, 05:18 PM	#54
Grimquest General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 47	Some of you eggheads need to take a break from the game… I can’t believe that you guys are crying over the game like it’s some sort of live or die decision that will change the history of the world… Freeekin Nurds… Shut the heel up and enjoy what they have to offer or, for gawds sake, venture out from your hole and visit the real world for a while. Oh yeah, Merry Christmas…

12-04-2006, 05:21 PM	#55
Brightstrid Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 27	A very simple way of stopping the spams from platt farmers would be as someone else has said before is to be flagged as roleplaying/anon! Now i know alot of you dont always like this as it means if you are LFG your class is not stated, so for the simple part, if annon, still have the option of showing your class also this would be a great feature .Also when u go afk you are able to add a short message afterwards that people can read like "in the bath" etc, so why not have it that you can do the same when LFG, for example if u click on someones name who is LFG you could see a short message from the player like LFG obi/mc/bm/den. That way players could see what people are looking for before sending them a tell. Now this is just an idea the option of having your class shown when you are tagged as anon/roleplaying makes sense (if u are a roleplayer, then u would want people to know your class/race if you want them to speak to you in a roleplayable way) If people think this is a good idea, then plz say, but once again, dont flame away, SOE never seem to listen when being flamed, i know that for sure As for the update, like any update, its just a sneek peek, and not stating any game mechanics/classes etc that will be changed, they basically told a short story and we will all have to wait and see.

12-04-2006, 06:42 PM	#56
Argyuile Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 214	bender9753 wrote: Raijinn Thunderguard wrote: Use this thread to discuss the Game Update #30 Preview feature. Message Edited by Raijinn Thunderguard on 12-01-2006 05:38 PM I just want to know one thing will the fae be able to betray on this update. if not when will they Why not just scrip the chistmas crap all together this year and focus on the countless unadressed bugs instead hrm. __________________ Disso and SD merged onto a server with no competition for contested thus proving once and for all that nobody really "enjoys" racing for contested content. They just enjoy having it on lock down so no one else can enjoy it. Contested epics are a waste of programming time and resources.

12-04-2006, 07:47 PM	#57
Cuz Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 825	Grimquester wrote: Some of you eggheads need to take a break from the game… I can’t believe that you guys are crying over the game like it’s some sort of live or die decision that will change the history of the world… Freeekin Nurds… Shut the heel up and enjoy what they have to offer or, for gawds sake, venture out from your hole and visit the real world for a while. Oh yeah, Merry Christmas… Feel better now? __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ one immature posted ------------------------------------------------------------

12-04-2006, 08:17 PM	#58
Argyuile Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 214	Jenoy wrote: Grimquester wrote: Some of you eggheads need to take a break from the game… I can’t believe that you guys are crying over the game like it’s some sort of live or die decision that will change the history of the world… Freeekin Nurds… Shut the heel up and enjoy what they have to offer or, for gawds sake, venture out from your hole and visit the real world for a while. Oh yeah, Merry Christmas… Feel better now? You cry about people crying. YOU WIN TEH MESSAGE BOARDS!! __________________ Disso and SD merged onto a server with no competition for contested thus proving once and for all that nobody really "enjoys" racing for contested content. They just enjoy having it on lock down so no one else can enjoy it. Contested epics are a waste of programming time and resources.

12-04-2006, 08:29 PM	#59
Equinon Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 87	Well, since you requested feedback on the update (and hopefully on the game and SoE's performance on a Pay to Play game), here is my input: 1. Fix tinkering. 100 raws to craft 1 item? 11 rares to craft an expendable item? C'Mon, you're smarter than that. 2. Fix your website. Over half your website is bugged. Not minor bugs either. 3. Fix our guild sites. You have massive posts on your forums about people that can't log in properly to their guild forums. Massive posts about pics and info no longer being on the site. Info that your Paying subscribers worked very hard to get onto that site. 4. Introduce Holiday Style Fun that is even remotely equivalent to some of the things you did in EQ1. Seriously, EQ2 is suppose to be a more advanced game, but the holiday content in EQ1 was (and still is) FAR BETTER than anything you've done in EQ2. remembers the halloween event where Sony brought the skeletons down for the Plane of Fear to wreak havoc on the lands of Norrath, all with drops that were appropriate to a players level (not this level 1, can be used by anybody junk). 5. Work harder on your bugs and known issues than you do on expansions. It's great to have new stuff and new areas, but if what you already have isn't working properly then maybe you are concentrating your employment base too hard on the areas that need it least. 6. Learn one strong rule before you do anything else............."IF IT ISN'T BROKEN, DON'T FIX IT!!!"..........taking a web site that is working (mostly) very well and to impress whomever, you decide to re-vamp the site into some kind of broken, half thrown together, junk site that has hardly anything working correctly? Wow, personally, I'm not impressed ;P Sadly, we pay for this. Some of it, we actually pay extra for To put it in perspective.....if you buy something from ANY store out there and it doesn't work, don't you expect a replacement, a fix, or a refund in a timely manner? Well, until SoE actually get's things working correctly, they should at least show us something for all the stuff that we pay for that doesn't work! I really don't care what it is, one extra week of playtime added to your account, a free month, a free in-game xp and txp potion? Seriously, anything but another house item. Anything would be nice, just to say "We are very sorry for the inconvenience to your service you are Paying for. Here, on behalf of Sony, please accept this yadda yadda as way of us thanking you for your continued support while we try to fix these known issues." Wow, that would be just too darned easy [Removed for Content] Okay, I'm done, all those that like to pick a post apart and those that like to just flame..........you may start.......Now __________________ Using a dependable guild site......Bona_Amici.guildportal.com

12-04-2006, 08:56 PM	#60
Cuz Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 825	Argyuile wrote: Jenoy wrote: Grimquester wrote: Some of you eggheads need to take a break from the game… I can’t believe that you guys are crying over the game like it’s some sort of live or die decision that will change the history of the world… Freeekin Nurds… Shut the heel up and enjoy what they have to offer or, for gawds sake, venture out from your hole and visit the real world for a while. Oh yeah, Merry Christmas… Feel better now? You cry about people crying. YOU WIN TEH MESSAGE BOARDS!! Sorry I find it stupid when people give feedback, when it's asked, and someone seemingly gets vexed at them. Maybe they should have called the thread Game Update #30 Preview Compliments? __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ one immature posted ------------------------------------------------------------