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Unread 07-12-2006, 01:12 AM   #1
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Once we get this new earring slot, will those of us who have completed the Maiden's Reception of the claymore line be able to change which reward we recieved? Since some may have 2 great rings and now have a chance to use a 2nd earring, or have 2 great earrings but no great rings.
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Unread 07-12-2006, 10:18 AM   #2
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Highly unlikely, the only instances I can recall of allowing item's to be swapped for other rewards have centered upon either the item's rewarded changing or another item reward being added to a quest.  Example -Prismatic 2's from the peacock series - because they changed the stats, proc's and allowed classes on the weapons, and added a whole new weapon from scratch, people were allowed to exchange weapons.  Another example is in the Claymore line, the quest which gives the BP.  At first there was no leather breastplate, and from memory leather wearers were allowed to petition to exchange their cloth breastplates for leather, as it was appropriate for their class.In this instance, you have an item which is perfectly usable in its current state, except you have now procured better item's for the same slot as you chose.  As the rewards of the quest were unchanged and the ring is still a viable piece of equipment for you, as I said at the beginning, it is highly unlikely that you will be allowed to exchange the rewards of this quest, nor do I see any valid reason for them doing so.
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Unread 07-13-2006, 01:40 AM   #3
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Alright then, how about a simple solution to this, and quite a few other issues similar to this.

 

Remember the Shady Swashbuckler XVIII on the nek docks? When you finished a heritage quest, he would be able to sell you whichever item you got as the reward. I guess his purpose was to resupply people with thier heritage items if they accidently sold them or destroyed them. But since then, and I think since ever, he hasnt had much use, if any.

To solve this, and a few other issues like it, lets give our Shady friend the ability to sell every single quest reward anyone has ever obtained over the course of their time playing this game. There would be a few differences though.

First, he can only display items which are quest rewards you have earned/completed. So unlike with the heritage items, you can only see and buy things that you have already had a chance to obtain.

Second, quests that give a set of items as possible rewards will have to be coded differently. Each set of possible rewards will be grouped under the specific quest required to obtain them. If a person has one of the possible quest rewards for a certain group in their possession, they will be unable to purchase any other reward from that set until they sell, trade, or destroy the one they already have.

This may take a lot of coding, or could be as simple as pasteing information from the quest journal of the person addressing the Shady Swashbucker, and checking to see which items the person has in their possession, and which group they belong to.

 

 

 

Or, make the dragonscale ring and earring interchangeable, like the Dark Fury Halberd/Sword of Anuk.

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Unread 07-13-2006, 03:12 AM   #4
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If they change that they should you let repick any quest which had an earing option, not going to happen, that earing is no big final reward like pris or GK weapon, brawlers who had done the SoS part before there was a leather bp reward never got it too. It is just some silly sub reward, enough other earings out there.
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Unread 07-13-2006, 08:43 AM   #5
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PIexor wrote:
If they change that they should you let repick any quest which had an earing option, not going to happen, that earing is no big final reward like pris or GK weapon, brawlers who had done the SoS part before there was a leather bp reward never got it too. It is just some silly sub reward, enough other earings out there.


Except, there was supposed to be a way for leather wearers to get a BP after it got put in.  Though it looks like it got stuck on the back-burner somehow.
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Unread 07-13-2006, 06:23 PM   #6
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It'd be great if we could swap for the earring.
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Unread 07-18-2006, 02:22 AM   #7
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Kenji1134 wrote:

Alright then, how about a simple solution to this, and quite a few other issues similar to this.

Allow unlimited do-overs forever so I never have to live with any decision I make.


Good plan.
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Unread 07-19-2006, 08:34 PM   #8
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I would lke to do this too, but it isn't gonna happen.
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Unread 07-23-2006, 07:27 PM   #9
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I first want to give a apologize to those people that thought this post had died and was a done deal. Unfortunately do to issues with verification of my e-mail address, I wasn't able to figure out why it wasn't working for my account until now. Sorry, but I only been reading the forums and not replying for the last 19 months I have been playing within the game.

I doubt that they will allow you to change the rewards, as I found out after working with many player characters within the game and back tracking many people to get to the part of the quest I was on. After about five weeks of group's I finally was able to complete the Maidens Reception and was in level appropriate chat asking which reward which was best for a level 70 Berserker to choose. When out of no where a player aggroed a NPC, and as the group tank not wanting the healer and rest of the group to be killed, I went to click the NPC and by accident clicked accept on the reward and got the reward that was highlighted but not the one I physically wanted to use.

After the battle was over I was a little upset and when I commented in group and in level appropriate chat I was ridiculed for making a mistake. I went ahead and petitioned the Game Master and was told by them that because I clicked accept, either intentional or not I would be stuck with a item I will never use since besides the resistances was a major down-grade to me. Now it has been about a month since I got the wrong reward and the item the Dragonscale ring will sit in my bank like many other quest items till I figure out if they can be deleted or sold after the quest line is done.

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Unread 07-25-2006, 02:57 AM   #10
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Most quests (and this one is no exception) tell you what you're going to get out of them before you start them, so you had that full five weeks to ask in level appropriate channels what would be best for your class, though at 70 if you have to ask someone else what's better for you, you have more problems than the best GM in the world could fix.

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Unread 07-25-2006, 11:24 PM   #11
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The point I was making is not that I asked what item is better, but when I did go to view the items yet again and make the decision. A person in the group aggroed a wandering NPC. As I went to target that enraged NPC before it killed our healer, I inadvertently clicked  accept on the reward which was the wrong one high-lighted at the moment. I was commenting on the original poster saying they should be able to swap items out and stated it was unlikely based on something that had happened to me.

-- Korpo53 -- (I took your last half of your statement as a personal attack and went off-topic of the original poster message, but felt it needed comment)

As far as you saying by time I am level 70 I should know what is best, I am never going to know exactly what I should know as we all continue to learn our characters as they change from day to day with patches and updates. When I look at gear, to me its just code and numbers. Some people praise high stats, others resistances and for each person they also have roles within their guilds to think about where one item may make a significant difference. For me a un-guilded player that solo's a lot and when I do take arms with fellow like minded characters, I need to know what is best so we all have enjoyment.

In EQ1 now know as EQLive I use to be one of the most hardcore players that believed skill out beat gear and when we raided, I always let others get the gear first so they could enjoy the game with there limited time. Back then I was a shaman (70 w/ 1000 AAs in 8 months) and did most of my gear upgrades thru regular groups. All my spells I farmed myself then pay ridiculous prices and averaged 10 hours a day Monday-Thursday and Friday-Sunday, would average 15-20 hours a day.

Now I play a Berserker (70 w/ 50 AAs 15 un-used) which is totally different then any berserker I have ever role-played or played in any other game. I average about 3-4 hours a day Monday-Friday and Saturday-Sunday around 10-12 hours. I have played every single class in EQ2 so that I can get a basic feel of what other characters are capable of. When I tank I am trying to manage my damage being done, maintain the aggro from my taunts, postioning every single encounter so that other classes are taking less damage or doing more damage to NPCs back. I am watching for additional wandering NPCs so we do not get the issue that cause my accidental clicking, as well as the power levels of all characters especially the healers. I am watching mentally the time to when creatures should be respawning in any give area.

Gear means something to a tank class verse a caster class where for them its more spell choices, this I have and am slowly learning over my previous careers and characters. This might be a game, but to me it is more then that. I strive to be the best and when doing so make it more enjoyable for others since they have less to worry about. When I see a person for 20 minutes or more looking for help to do a quest or just general experience, I will stop what I am doing and offer and then proceed to mentor to that level to help them.

Will I ever finish some of my quests that require groups that I have worked very hard for, probally not. Will I ever get invited to do raid level content that completes certain quests that I just lack the final named, probally not. I know that no matter what gear I wear and no matter how skilled people comment that I am capable, I will continue to strive to be even better. And I will always without a doubt ask what I think is a crucial question from people that our far better then me what items I should choose based on various play-styles.

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Unread 07-28-2006, 12:21 AM   #12
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Samantha wrote:

As far as you saying by time I am level 70 I should know what is best, I am never going to know exactly what I should know as we all continue to learn our characters as they change from day to day with patches and updates. When I look at gear, to me its just code and numbers. Some people praise high stats, others resistances and for each person they also have roles within their guilds to think about where one item may make a significant difference. For me a un-guilded player that solo's a lot and when I do take arms with fellow like minded characters, I need to know what is best so we all have enjoyment.

There is no "best" anything, only what is best for your character. Nobody knows your character as well as you do. Asking people to tell you what is the best for your character just leads to you never having to learn about your character yourself, and the cycle continues. I suspect that you've been asking people "what is best" for 70 levels, and now at 70 you still don't know how to figure it out yourself.

In EQ1 now know as EQLive I use to be one of the most hardcore players that believed skill out beat gear and when we raided, I always let others get the gear first so they could enjoy the game with there limited time. Back then I was a shaman (70 w/ 1000 AAs in 8 months) and did most of my gear upgrades thru regular groups. All my spells I farmed myself then pay ridiculous prices and averaged 10 hours a day Monday-Thursday and Friday-Sunday, would average 15-20 hours a day.

That's super awesome, or would be if this game had anything at all to do with EQ1. I was really good at playing Starcraft back in the day, does that mean I'm good at playing EQ2?

Now I play a Berserker (70 w/ 50 AAs 15 un-used) which is totally different then any berserker I have ever role-played or played in any other game. I average about 3-4 hours a day Monday-Friday and Saturday-Sunday around 10-12 hours.

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When I tank I am trying to manage my damage being done, maintain the aggro from my taunts, postioning every single encounter so that other classes are taking less damage or doing more damage to NPCs back. I am watching for additional wandering NPCs so we do not get the issue that cause my accidental clicking, as well as the power levels of all characters especially the healers. I am watching mentally the time to when creatures should be respawning in any give area.

Congrats on doing what every single tank in the game does/should be doing. Here's a medal. This is really tanking 101 stuff, not something you should be bragging about at 70.

Will I ever finish some of my quests that require groups that I have worked very hard for, probally not. Will I ever get invited to do raid level content that completes certain quests that I just lack the final named, probally not. I know that no matter what gear I wear and no matter how skilled people comment that I am capable, I will continue to strive to be even better. And I will always without a doubt ask what I think is a crucial question from people that our far better then me what items I should choose based on various play-styles.

Again, if you always ask people "what's best" then you never learn to figure it out for yourself. This is a lesson you should have been learning for 70 levels and 50 aas worth of grinding. Since you've been relying on others to do your thinking for you for so long, you don't have the ability to do it yourself, hence you keep having to ask.


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Unread 08-09-2006, 06:05 AM   #13
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Hmm, I dunno, I still feel that this should be addressed. Adding a 2nd earring slot is something pretty big. I just want to suggest that for anyone who did that quest, and completed it before the time when there was any evidence of a 2nd earring slot, should have an oppertunity to change thier choice of quest reward for that particular quest.

Its a lot like the peacock questline. They added another weapon, so they gave people the ability to chose which one they wanted. Well, now you got another earring slot, and here is a reward from a very long quest line, which I feel we should be able to change if we recieved it before the information regarding the 2nd earring slot.

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Unread 08-10-2006, 08:45 PM   #14
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Planar orb of the warrior and dragonscale earring FTW!
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Unread 08-10-2006, 09:04 PM   #15
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let it go its not going to happen and sets bad precedent if they do. The game changes items change and equipments changes. You don't like your reward now because of changes made to the game. To bad there are plenty of earrings/rings out there that just as good replacements. I did not know there was a band of cause in HoS when i finished the dragonscale part of the quest series shoudl i then ask for an item exchange becasue i feel a better ring is available instead of the dragonscale. Sorry nope you live with your decisions. To tell the truth the fiz quest ear was never as good as the dragonscale ear, but you made that choice yourself live with it.  
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Unread 08-16-2006, 07:04 PM   #16
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There is no reason to have this go into effect.

You made a choice a while ago, the game changes, the item that you chose is not useless anymore, there really is no need to have what you are suggesting implemented.

Just get another earring of another type.

Now if they took away a ring slot to make room for the earring slot, then maybe it should be considered, but since you can still use the itme you initially chose, there is no reason to make any change simply because you now have an extra slot to fill.

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