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10-30-2005, 08:46 PM
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The patch notes confused me a little.. so.. should one sell back their carpet for 50p before the patch and repurchase, or will there be a way for ppl with old carpets to resell and rebuy after patch and get their 50p back still. Any ideas? Or has there been a post on this I've missed.
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10-31-2005, 06:50 AM
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From what I understand, your carpet will still have a higher sellback rate after the update.
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10-31-2005, 10:22 AM
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The question is... Will it be more or less then what it is right now You are going to have some [Removed for Content] off players if they wait till LU and see the sellback is lower then what it was...
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10-31-2005, 01:18 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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/agree I don't think there are any lvl 30 guilds on test... either that or they don't read the forums.. but yeah, patch notes weren't very clear on what they are doing with the sellback. Does "close to the amount spent" mean more or less than what it is now?
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10-31-2005, 01:46 PM
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Correct, no lvl 30 guilds .... yet... few lvl 27 almost 28 ones... but none that are 30... Will advise when i can...
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10-31-2005, 06:31 PM
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Tester
Join Date: Jan 2005
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The new prices for these are (in theory)... just over 10pp. The sell back for the old stuff just over 40pp. Just what a little birdy told me.
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11-01-2005, 06:53 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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The carpets are now 10plat and 250k status. We are guild lvl 30 on test. They sell back for 41 plat. SO for all of those that worked so hard once again you are screwed. I love the way SOE rewards the people that play the most by removing anything that requires effort and time. I saved for a year to get a carpet and like that not everyone has one. But apparently if you play the game all the time and work hard to get things done your opinion is not worth as much as they guy that plays 1 day a week for a few hours but whines a lot. In a few more updates they will probably just make all characters start at lvl 60 cuz levelling takes time and effort. Then they will probably make fabled armor available for 1 copper of brokers so no one has to raid anymore that takes time and effort too. Then we can all have the exact same toon with all the same stuff and no one can complain. Maybe if they took all the developers paychecks and gave them a massive paycut so that minimum wage workers didn't feel left out, they could understand where a few of us are coming from. One would also think too that there is so much more in the game that needs to be fixed, itemized, balanced without messing with the things that do not.
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11-01-2005, 07:10 AM
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Smilingloraxwrote: But apparently if you play the game all the time and work hard to get things done your opinion is not worth as much as they guy that plays 1 day a week for a few hours but whines a lot. I understand how you think your opinion should mean more than some one who plays very casually, but Ill let you in on a little secret. There are 2592000 seconds in a 30 day month. If some one logs in in those first few seconds, logs out, and doesnt log in again the rest of the month or if some one could possibly play all 2592000 secs that month they both will pay SOE the EXACT same amount of money. Period. You can say you test this and explore that blah blah blah but with Sony or any company it all boils down to money. And in the money department both play styles are completely EQUAL.
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11-01-2005, 07:50 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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So the sellback for old carpets is 41p on test?? Which means we should sell ours BEFORE the next LU....
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11-01-2005, 08:58 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Aaz wrote : And in the money department both play styles are completely EQUAL. In the long run it is the high end raiders that play the game the for years and such for the most part. With no high-end MMORPGs die relatively fast. That is what is keeping EQ1 alive still today. Also wanted to say that I don't think my opinion is worth any more then anyone elses. It is just that there are things in the game that do not need fixing. Having an item or items that are extremely rare or expensive are nice. There is a sense of achievement upon acquiring them. De-valuing these things a year into the game is more of a let down and shows lack of integrity.
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11-01-2005, 10:05 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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This could present a problem for those who are no longer in a level 30 guild, like myself. If I sell it now, I will not be able to re-purchase it at a lower price until I rejoin a level 30 guild. SOE flag those who have carpets, or spirit horses and allow them to trade regardless of current guild status. I contirbuted almost 250K in guild status before leaving my old guild and have almost 2.5 million in personal status.
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11-01-2005, 11:37 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Yes, it seems like bad business to alienate those hardcore players, causing them to lose 60 months worth of revenue. If, in their changes, they manage to get another 99 people to stay for at least another month, is that good business? Even years after taking introductory courses in micro- and macro-economics I think, yes, that is a good move. I do not doubt SoE knows their demographics very well. I do not doubt that SoE understands that with each change to improve their customer base, they will lose customers. There is a rule in customer service: Someone is seven times more likely to be vocal about a bad experience than a good. So for all these people complaining about the changes, you can bet there are seven people who are quietly happy about them. As a disclaimer, these numbers are not based on fact. Even the "seven" rule, while I understand it to be seven in generic customer service terms, is probably very different in this industry. From my experiences on these forums, it's probably closer to 20 for MMORPGs. I work in customer service and I have played MMORPGs since they were called MUDs. Not that this makes me any more right than you, but it does imply that I know a little bit about what I post about.
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11-01-2005, 12:58 PM
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10plat and 250k status? are you devs completely out of your mind?? nothing like screwing the people that saved tons of money and did countless writs like myself to obtain this item. and it says it will sell for "close" to what i bought it for??? I bought it for 60plat, 41 plat is NOT EVEN close, 19plat is an astronomical amount. Hell i could buy 2 more carpets now for my alts with that. it should sell back for AT LEAST 50, if not the full price since youre already bending us over and practically handing them out to anyone in a lvl 30 guild who can mine 3cobalt clusters and make 10plat. way to [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] on the hardcore gamers once again soe. way to go.
I want full price sellback, now that every tom [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] and harry in a level 30 guild will have one of these i will not be re-buying it. Message Edited by tek2k5 on 11-01-2005 02:59 AM |
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11-01-2005, 01:28 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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[Removed for Content]? 10pp 250k status??? Thats less than the DoF horses. What the hell are the devs thinking? I really hope that this change was made because they are adding guild lvl 35 or 40 mounts. This change is just pathetic. I didn't know a "significant decrease" meant a 50p 500k status decrease in price. Having a carpet/steed will no longer be a "status symbol." Whatever...
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11-01-2005, 02:32 PM
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Good Lord! What a bunch of elitist bs! The sad thing is most of you will never know just how pathetic your pleas sound to the rest of us. Donald Trump says"Waaaaa, I paid $25,000 for my plasma screen and now they're only $2,000! Waaaaa, now even the dirty, great unwashed, normal people can buy them! Waaaa, I don't want mine anymore! Waaaaaa how could you do this, I'M SPECIAL!!!!
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11-01-2005, 03:02 PM
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Good Lord! What a bunch of elitist bs! The sad thing is most of you will never know just how pathetic your pleas sound to the rest of us. Donald Trump says"Waaaaa, I paid $25,000 for my plasma screen and now they're only $2,000! Waaaaa, now even the dirty, great unwashed, normal people can buy them! Waaaa, I don't want mine anymore! Waaaaaa how could you do this, I'M SPECIAL!!!! Well, based on YOUR message I would say that you are special. You have probably been specail all your life. It sounds like you have taken special education classes. This game is all about the "strut" factor. Folks want the fabled gear. decked out homes. or items that no one else has. Art imitates life....... |
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11-01-2005, 03:09 PM
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Yep, collect your welfare so you can stay home & play 24/7, then "strut" to your betters about how special you are. Unbelievable! :smileyvery-happy:
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11-01-2005, 03:26 PM
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please make sure or verify that you were trying to sell it to one of the 2 stable hands, 1 in SQ and one in er i think WFP, any other vendor even on live will only give you 41 plat but the stable hands pay 50 plat. though every vendor gives back 750k status complete bulls hit that they arent ont test.
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11-01-2005, 04:24 PM
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As Sean Leclaire2 said Please verify you were trying to sell it back to the right person. Current Sellback: (On Live) Normal NPC: 41p, 66g, 66s, 65c and 750000SP Stable Hand Stonebear: 50p and 750000SP I would really like to know what to do (Sell before/after) I do not want to lose 10p just because SoE has no clue how to run a game anymore...
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11-01-2005, 05:12 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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LoL...some of you folks up there above act like I am going to log on and gather 250k status points in an evening of play...from experience I know it takes QUITE a bit longer than that...and not like 10p falls from the sky either...oh, and then there is the matter of how many lvl 30 guilds there are across the servers...
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11-01-2005, 06:23 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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I don't have a spirit steed or a carpet but I think its kinda bogus they are doing this. On the other hand I don't think that they should have been priced THAT high...60pp is a ton of cash for something thats only marginally faster than the tier lower. It does give me some hope that they will be working on guild level 40 rewards soon. |
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11-01-2005, 06:31 PM
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City of Heroes/City of Villains may be the exception to this, and at the minute have a higher online population than EQ2. Just an FYI. Edit to remove that pesky Y. Message Edited by Kenazeer on 11-01-2005 05:32 AM
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11-01-2005, 08:22 PM
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Not for nothing, but I play way more than the average gamer - I have 3 level 60 crafters, and my main adventurer is 59. I have plenty of plat, but you know what? This hardcore player refuses to pay 60pp for an 8% horse increase when my guild hits 30. Why? Cause it's a blatant waste of money, and I would hate to be seen as one of the idiotic few who used to enjoy afking in QH so people could ooh and ahh at them. 60pp for an 8% speed increase over an affordable horse is called displaying BDS - bigger [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] syndrome. I'm glad they're finally putting these horses at a reasonable price - still not sure if I will get one though, because I enjoy my stat increases on my DoF horse, but this is more in line with what it should be. The prestige should be from being guild 30, not from doling out 60pp that you probably got from botting in a TS instance. Message Edited by Ellywen on 11-01-2005 10:23 AM
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11-02-2005, 12:35 AM
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The point being now that the carpet and horse are less ooh aah items but more specific items for your character. Its YOUR choice what type of mount you want - is it an expansion horse, a standard horse, a ghost horse or a carpet? If you think getting 250k and 10 plat is easy, you need to get some perspective because in truth if you look at player numbers, the majority are casual players trying desperately to get their first plat. Yes at higher levels its easier but one must get there first.
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11-02-2005, 03:07 AM
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hello are most of you complainers missing the point... IN DOF --- yo ucan get a 40% horse with 4.2 protection for 14 PPs.... Its only logical that they make the other carpet and spirit mount the cost it is now... and come on... a spirit horse is still a symbole of a high lvl guild..... but they never wanted to take away from the players that play some time not all the time... Yea some of you have the time to play ever second of the day... some of you have no lives and sit in front of a comp and play 24/7 some of you are retired and some of you live with yoru parents.... Well i for one work everyday... but still find time to play... and i and so many others deserve a shot at getting this item... without giving up my life to play this game
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11-02-2005, 04:12 AM
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The new cost for the Spirit Steed and Carpet don't make sense. 10pp and 250k status for a 48% horse/carpet =/= 14pp 40% Armored Horse I think the Spirit Steed should at least be around 15pp if that's what SOE wants to do. It might also be wise to say if they're going to add new 56% speed horse and armored variants.
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11-02-2005, 05:15 AM
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If you want to watch something funny... Go look at the richest list the day before.. and the day after this LU There is going to be a HUGE flow of Plat coming back into the game... With nothing to spend it on... The top 25-40 people on every server will have OVER 100p each... What are they suppose to do with it?? You take away expencive fluff so that everybody can afford it... yet add nothing new Should we sell it on Ebay?
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11-02-2005, 07:19 AM
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just sold mine back to the West Freeport Stable hand (the one that moves around not the static guy) and he gave me 58plat 33gold back plus the 750k status. Not taking any chances of SOE screwing up anything more after the LU so i sold it now
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11-02-2005, 08:24 AM
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You sold your carpet... on a Live server... for 58p?!?!?!?! I am definatly doing this if this is the case..
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11-02-2005, 08:29 AM
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Qeynos Stable Hand Stonebear: 50p, 750k status Stable Hand Marcellun Iver: 41p, 66g, 66s, 65c, 750k status Freeport Stable Hands will not do business with me  Message Edited by MinionTA on 11-01-2005 11:03 PM |
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