Tradeskill society tasks will now reward a 20% profit margin based on the fuel costs necessary to...

Magic Wand · 02-13-2005, 02:13 AM

I just completed a society task to create 10 "Grey Wind" spell scrolls.Each scroll requires a minimum of 8.5 Tier 2 fuels if you count the paper and quills, and make your own pristine stromas.I received 14s64c and 100 status points upon completing the task.Fuel cost: 85 x 24c = 20s40cFuel profit margin: 14s64c / 20s40c = 0.72 or a 28% LOSS!!!(a 20% profit would have come to 24s48c).Apparently, SOE calculates the fuel use as:Fuel use: (14s64c / 1.2) / 24c = 50.83 fuels or 5.08 fuels per scroll.The cost of goods for this task is 21s30c if you use 100% harvested materials, acquire the interdependent supplies at cost, and buy aerated water instead of killing 100 gnolls for canine saliva.Since water was my only cost other than fuel, I should have come out ahead by 3s18c. Instead, those 100 status points cost 6s66c!!!Talk about a sinister nerf!

Message Edited by Magic Wand on 02-12-2005 03:30 PM

Ziffna · 02-13-2005, 02:32 AM

Nice proving what I stated here thanks for the hard evidance i didn't have at the time realating to this : http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=general_tradeskill&message.id=42948

SemaJyn · 02-13-2005, 06:18 AM

Hmm, 5 fuels. Sounds like they aren't counting refines at all, only interim and finals.

Scroll:

Paper

Root
Wash
Fuel

Quill

Lumber

Wood
Resin
Fuel

Oil
Fuel

Ink

Dye

Reagent

Rock/metal
Oil
Fuel

Wash
Fuel

Wash
Fuel

Fuel

Thats 7 fuels, and 5 WORTs, so 8.25 fuel. But if you don't count the fuel used in any refine combines:

Paper

Root
Wash
Fuel (1)

Quill

Lumber (refined)
Oil
Fuel (2)

Ink

Dye

Reagent (refined)
Wash
Fuel (3)

Wash
Fuel (4)

Fuel (5)

Bingo, 5 fuels. Someone needs to remind sony that refines still use fuel, or better yet, let refines use the 6c fuel regardless.

Message Edited by SemaJynot on 02-14-2005 06:53 AM

Prismata · 02-14-2005, 02:57 AM

Well since the guild writs are now supposed to give zero profit, any idea how much it's going to cost to do guild writs?

02-13-2005, 06:18 AM	#3
SemaJyn General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 20	Hmm, 5 fuels. Sounds like they aren't counting refines at all, only interim and finals. Scroll: Paper Root Wash Fuel Quill Lumber Wood Resin Fuel Oil Fuel Ink Dye Reagent Rock/metal Oil Fuel Wash Fuel Wash Fuel Fuel Thats 7 fuels, and 5 WORTs, so 8.25 fuel. But if you don't count the fuel used in any refine combines: Paper Root Wash Fuel (1) Quill Lumber (refined) Oil Fuel (2) Ink Dye Reagent (refined) Wash Fuel (3) Wash Fuel (4) Fuel (5) Bingo, 5 fuels. Someone needs to remind sony that refines still use fuel, or better yet, let refines use the 6c fuel regardless. Message Edited by SemaJynot on 02-14-2005 06:53 AM

02-13-2005, 02:13 AM	#1
Magic Wand Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 15	I just completed a society task to create 10 "Grey Wind" spell scrolls.Each scroll requires a minimum of 8.5 Tier 2 fuels if you count the paper and quills, and make your own pristine stromas.I received 14s64c and 100 status points upon completing the task.Fuel cost: 85 x 24c = 20s40cFuel profit margin: 14s64c / 20s40c = 0.72 or a 28% LOSS!!!(a 20% profit would have come to 24s48c).Apparently, SOE calculates the fuel use as:Fuel use: (14s64c / 1.2) / 24c = 50.83 fuels or 5.08 fuels per scroll.The cost of goods for this task is 21s30c if you use 100% harvested materials, acquire the interdependent supplies at cost, and buy aerated water instead of killing 100 gnolls for canine saliva.Since water was my only cost other than fuel, I should have come out ahead by 3s18c. Instead, those 100 status points cost 6s66c!!!Talk about a sinister nerf! Message Edited by Magic Wand on 02-12-2005 03:30 PM

02-13-2005, 02:32 AM	#2
Ziffna Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 132	Nice proving what I stated here thanks for the hard evidance i didn't have at the time realating to this : http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=general_tradeskill&message.id=42948

02-14-2005, 02:57 AM	#4
Prismata Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 60	Well since the guild writs are now supposed to give zero profit, any idea how much it's going to cost to do guild writs?