Which ebon imbued weapon should I have made?

Kizee · 04-12-2005, 04:07 PM

The few people I have talked to said to fo ebon leafblades but I don't like the looks of weilding a spear. Why do people like leafblades...is it because it has a low delay?

I like the traditional look of assassins that weild small weapons (daggers, shortswords).

Does anybody have a suggestion what to get besides the leafblade and maybe a picture of it?

Thanks :smileyhappy:

Putka · 04-12-2005, 04:10 PM

well you can take any ornate spear and see how it looks.. I don't like them much myself either. But I guess they proc significantly more due to slow delay SMILEY

I also hate the fact that I have to use a cedar LONGbow because it procs more than the short one as well... *$%#&! big bow looks ugly and has worse stats than the short one SMILEY

In eq2 if you want to look good you'll have to be gimped SMILEY

Kizee · 04-12-2005, 05:23 PM

The longer delay weapons proc more offen? That doesn't make any sence.

I figured the faster you swing the more chance you have for the weapon to proc.

Cah · 04-12-2005, 05:48 PM

Both of you are wrong SMILEY

. http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=30217#M30217

Message Edited by Cahan on 04-12-2005 03:52 PM

Kokus · 04-12-2005, 06:51 PM

My favored crafted piercing weapon is the ebon sai. :smileyhappy:

Cah · 04-12-2005, 06:59 PM

Can you post a screenshot of that please? I only saw a screen of an ebon great axe which looks really cool, so I'd like to know if more rare crafted weapons have a special skin SMILEY

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Kokus · 04-12-2005, 07:10 PM

Ask and ye shall recieve:

Cah · 04-12-2005, 07:11 PM

Nice stats, but looks a bit rusty^^ or is it just the lighting?

Kokus · 04-12-2005, 07:14 PM

Message Edited by Kokusho on 04-12-2005 09:15 AM

Kizee · 04-12-2005, 07:24 PM

Really nice stats!

Neat looking skin also but I never liked how the Sai's scaled to my woodelf. The handles come up to my neck. :smileysad:

So the ebon weapons don't have a unique look to them? That looks like a regular sai with a multi colored skin to it.

I hear that the short sword looks nice... anybody have pictures of that?

Kokus · 04-12-2005, 07:26 PM

heh.. give me a sec and i'll post my ebon short sword

Kokus · 04-12-2005, 07:30 PM

Kizee · 04-12-2005, 07:34 PM

Jeez kokusho.. have any more you want to post? LOL

The short sword looks kinda neat... but I like the sai better. (even tho it doesnt scale properly)

I am assuming that they all have the same stats.. right?

Thanks alot for the screenies. :smileyhappy:

Kokus · 04-12-2005, 07:39 PM

You're just lucky that I was browsing the boards while crafting. Pretty easy to take some screenshots and post them. =)

Kizee · 04-12-2005, 07:45 PM

Sai has more str....and I am a str nut. :smileyvery-happy:

Meh... I don't know what to get. :smileyindifferent:

If anybody else has any other ebon weapons they want to post.. please feel free. :smileyhappy:

I hope I didn't cause you to miss any rare counters... I almost missed one yesterday when I was surfing hehe. I got my root tho!

xunx · 04-12-2005, 08:22 PM

wrong post-nt

Message Edited by xunx on 04-12-2005 09:26 AM

xunx · 04-12-2005, 08:40 PM

wrong post - nt

Message Edited by xunx on 04-12-2005 09:41 AM

frogspawn · 04-12-2005, 09:01 PM

For grouping dual wielders I highly recommend the sai. The str and power on that are by far the best. For a slashing alternative I went with the rapier--smaller power, but same str. People like the leafblade because they saw a few of them on the top melee hits chart and assume since it has a higher dmg per attack that they'll get bigger hits from it. That isn't true as the dmg on a weapon doesn't affect your combat arts, but that's why they are popular. All dw weaps are the same dps just as all 1h are the same and all 2h are the same. So, it comes down to stats and looks. If you're a grouping t5 assassin you're likely after str and power as your main stats. The sai rates the highest there. Here's a site with all the ebon weap stats: http://www.eversor.com/public/ws/t5rare.html

Kizee · 04-12-2005, 09:40 PM

Awsome!

Thanks for the chart Frog.

That is what I was looking for. :smileyhappy:

Figures that the stiletto is high Agil.... :smileyindifferent:

I will probally end up with the sai because of the reasons you stated Frog.

Thanks again for all the replies.

Putka · 04-12-2005, 09:45 PM

Cahan wrote:

Both of you are wrong . http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=30217#M30217

Message Edited by Cahan on 04-12-2005 03:52 PM

I'm sorry, how am I wrong? This post is exactly what I thought about when writing my reply. Yes the proc % over time is supposed to be the same on all weapons, but I said that slower weapons have a higher % of procing on each hit. This is the reason why you see your poison go off so often on bow attacks, since they have insanely high delay. Now I'm not claiming I know everything about this game's mechanics, but I'm assuming if youre using poison with a 7.0 delay bow, you have 58.3% chance of procing on each shot. If I'm wrong about this, please enlighten me, I'm always seeking deeper insight SMILEY

Cah · 04-13-2005, 12:39 AM

You do not one hit mobs you usually fight, you hit them several times during a fight. So of course slower delay weapons have a higher proc rate per single hit, but as fights usually last for about half a minute or longer, this is not the important number. It's the chance to proc over time, as you said, so in the end it doesn't matter if you are using high or low delay weapons. Actually if you're fighting a very high lvl mob compared to your level you are likely to miss more hits, which could lead to less procs with a low delay weapon, because you have fewer swings that possibly could hit. I think o_0 SMILEY

. I'd say it's just a matter of taste which kind of weapon you're using, that's why they implemented this system. For bows I'd say you're actually right, because you only have 2 or 3 styles that you use during a fight (I don't use bow skills at all, so it doesn't matter for me personally).

Putka · 04-13-2005, 04:31 AM

Well you wont be missing much after sticking Punch Blade and Anathema hehe SMILEY

Yeah ok SMILEY I suppose it doesn't matter much with melee weapons. Still, it does help with proccing more on melee CAs which can sometimes take a bit of time to execute. But yes, it makes a huge difference on bows. Kind of interesting way of implementing procs heh.. I just wish they'd be more clear with such descriptions, not forcing us to read Dev Tracker to have a clue about how it all works.

04-12-2005, 04:10 PM	#2
Putka Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 315	well you can take any ornate spear and see how it looks.. I don't like them much myself either. But I guess they proc significantly more due to slow delay I also hate the fact that I have to use a cedar LONGbow because it procs more than the short one as well... *$%#&! big bow looks ugly and has worse stats than the short one In eq2 if you want to look good you'll have to be gimped

04-12-2005, 05:48 PM	#4
Cah Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 97	Both of you are wrong . http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=30217#M30217 Message Edited by Cahan on 04-12-2005 03:52 PM __________________

04-12-2005, 06:51 PM	#5
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	My favored crafted piercing weapon is the ebon sai. :smileyhappy: __________________

04-12-2005, 06:59 PM	#6
Cah Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 97	Can you post a screenshot of that please? I only saw a screen of an ebon great axe which looks really cool, so I'd like to know if more rare crafted weapons have a special skin . __________________

04-12-2005, 07:10 PM	#7
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	Ask and ye shall recieve: __________________

04-12-2005, 04:07 PM	#1
Kizee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,093	The few people I have talked to said to fo ebon leafblades but I don't like the looks of weilding a spear. Why do people like leafblades...is it because it has a low delay? I like the traditional look of assassins that weild small weapons (daggers, shortswords). Does anybody have a suggestion what to get besides the leafblade and maybe a picture of it? Thanks :smileyhappy:

04-12-2005, 05:23 PM	#3
Kizee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,093	The longer delay weapons proc more offen? That doesn't make any sence. I figured the faster you swing the more chance you have for the weapon to proc.

04-12-2005, 07:11 PM	#8
Cah Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 97	Nice stats, but looks a bit rusty^^ or is it just the lighting? __________________

04-12-2005, 07:14 PM	#9
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	Message Edited by Kokusho on 04-12-2005 09:15 AM __________________

04-12-2005, 07:24 PM	#10
Kizee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,093	Really nice stats! Neat looking skin also but I never liked how the Sai's scaled to my woodelf. The handles come up to my neck. :smileysad: So the ebon weapons don't have a unique look to them? That looks like a regular sai with a multi colored skin to it. I hear that the short sword looks nice... anybody have pictures of that?

04-12-2005, 07:26 PM	#11
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	heh.. give me a sec and i'll post my ebon short sword __________________

04-12-2005, 07:30 PM	#12
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	__________________

04-12-2005, 07:34 PM	#13
Kizee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,093	Jeez kokusho.. have any more you want to post? LOL The short sword looks kinda neat... but I like the sai better. (even tho it doesnt scale properly) I am assuming that they all have the same stats.. right? Thanks alot for the screenies. :smileyhappy:

04-12-2005, 07:39 PM	#14
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	You're just lucky that I was browsing the boards while crafting. Pretty easy to take some screenshots and post them. =) __________________

04-12-2005, 07:45 PM	#15
Kizee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,093	Sai has more str....and I am a str nut. :smileyvery-happy: Meh... I don't know what to get. :smileyindifferent: If anybody else has any other ebon weapons they want to post.. please feel free. :smileyhappy: I hope I didn't cause you to miss any rare counters... I almost missed one yesterday when I was surfing hehe. I got my root tho!

04-12-2005, 08:22 PM	#16
xunx Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2	wrong post-nt Message Edited by xunx on 04-12-2005 09:26 AM

04-12-2005, 08:40 PM	#17
xunx Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2	wrong post - nt Message Edited by xunx on 04-12-2005 09:41 AM

04-12-2005, 09:01 PM	#18
frogspawn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 44	For grouping dual wielders I highly recommend the sai. The str and power on that are by far the best. For a slashing alternative I went with the rapier--smaller power, but same str. People like the leafblade because they saw a few of them on the top melee hits chart and assume since it has a higher dmg per attack that they'll get bigger hits from it. That isn't true as the dmg on a weapon doesn't affect your combat arts, but that's why they are popular. All dw weaps are the same dps just as all 1h are the same and all 2h are the same. So, it comes down to stats and looks. If you're a grouping t5 assassin you're likely after str and power as your main stats. The sai rates the highest there. Here's a site with all the ebon weap stats: http://www.eversor.com/public/ws/t5rare.html

04-12-2005, 09:40 PM	#19
Kizee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,093	Awsome! Thanks for the chart Frog. That is what I was looking for. :smileyhappy: Figures that the stiletto is high Agil.... :smileyindifferent: I will probally end up with the sai because of the reasons you stated Frog. Thanks again for all the replies.

04-12-2005, 09:45 PM	#20
Putka Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 315	Cahan wrote: Both of you are wrong . http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=30217#M30217 Message Edited by Cahan on 04-12-2005 03:52 PM I'm sorry, how am I wrong? This post is exactly what I thought about when writing my reply. Yes the proc % over time is supposed to be the same on all weapons, but I said that slower weapons have a higher % of procing on each hit. This is the reason why you see your poison go off so often on bow attacks, since they have insanely high delay. Now I'm not claiming I know everything about this game's mechanics, but I'm assuming if youre using poison with a 7.0 delay bow, you have 58.3% chance of procing on each shot. If I'm wrong about this, please enlighten me, I'm always seeking deeper insight

04-13-2005, 12:39 AM	#21
Cah Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 97	You do not one hit mobs you usually fight, you hit them several times during a fight. So of course slower delay weapons have a higher proc rate per single hit, but as fights usually last for about half a minute or longer, this is not the important number. It's the chance to proc over time, as you said, so in the end it doesn't matter if you are using high or low delay weapons. Actually if you're fighting a very high lvl mob compared to your level you are likely to miss more hits, which could lead to less procs with a low delay weapon, because you have fewer swings that possibly could hit. I think o_0 . I'd say it's just a matter of taste which kind of weapon you're using, that's why they implemented this system. For bows I'd say you're actually right, because you only have 2 or 3 styles that you use during a fight (I don't use bow skills at all, so it doesn't matter for me personally). __________________

04-13-2005, 04:31 AM	#22
Putka Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 315	Well you wont be missing much after sticking Punch Blade and Anathema hehe Yeah ok I suppose it doesn't matter much with melee weapons. Still, it does help with proccing more on melee CAs which can sometimes take a bit of time to execute. But yes, it makes a huge difference on bows. Kind of interesting way of implementing procs heh.. I just wish they'd be more clear with such descriptions, not forcing us to read Dev Tracker to have a clue about how it all works.