Loam day...your thoughts?

[StealthM0]

Aye the day is here, now we must become loam addicts for tier 7 adept 3s.

 

I for one am not liking this change. Spongy loam is 4pp+ on my server, moonstone was just getting down to around 2pp, and acrylia up to 1pp. Unless SoE is increasing the drop rate of spongy DRAMATICALLY expect these loams to be unobtainable by most. Get with it soe, should have made the mages use spongy loams, and given US acrylia.

[Taubin]

So, this got implemented LIVE today? :smileysad: I'm at work, that's why I asked.  But, I'm in the same boat as you are with the cost issues.  I won't be able to afford any new adepts for quite some time this makes me sad :smileysad:

Message Edited by GTaubin on 05-03-2006 10:26 AM

[rcknchr]

I have 6 Moonstones I gave to a Jeweler today to make 6 AD3,s this morning. Oh well guess they arent gonna get made now. Can you say SONY SUCKS [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], because they do and do a GREAT job of it.

 

All the broke [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] in the game and they worry about breaking more [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].

Message Edited by rcknchr74 on 05-03-2006 07:52 AM

[Prandtl]

Last week (before the announcement) I sold a spongy loam on the broker for 3pp and also sold an acrylia cluster for 13g.  The next day....  the acrylia is actually worth something and the loam is now my rare for ad3's.  Can you even hazard a guess on how I feel about these [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing changes? 

Changing combat mechanics is one thing, but changing the entire t7 economy in mid stream?!?

[StealthM0]

Yeah so far post revamp cant touch a spongy on bayle for less then 5pp.

 

I lucked out and went harvesting in TT (I will be camping here for the next 20 spongy loams I need), found a spongy after about an hour of harvesting. But that lil area near the temple grounds is highly contested. So beware of node ninjaing.

[Huntress Jellica]

Sigh. Gotta love mailing off a moonstone to get an adept 3 made, logging in the next morning, reading update notes, and seeing that the stupid spongy loam update happened that same morning. Spongy loams are also insanely expensive on Befallen, and everyone is always fighting over ore nodes, and that was before scouts used loams for adept 3s.. Joy. Well, at least that acrylia I had rotting away in my bag can be put to good use now. :smileytongue: Made one of my guildies happy, to be sure..

[BedlamX]

So I guess SOE did it to us again what in the hell am I going to do with my moonstone now? GOD WHY DO I EVEN BOTHER.

[Zendi_Perma]

I'm against it?    Why can't they just make it like the old inks and use any rare?    The jewelry change screws that up but....

[Sirlutt]

yeah unlucky for scouts.. Mages hopwever had a field day.. a week ago acrylia was down to 14g on Oasis .. it all got bought up soon as this hit test.. alot of mages for all their adept III's for their entire T7  for under 3pp... bad luck... now i gotta compete with scouts for the loams.. lol

[TofuPatty]

They really should have just made all 3 usuable for any classes adept3s, as it is in all other tiers.  I still don't get the reasoning behind the change - or rather I get what the idea was but never saw it as an issue, people would trade vanadiums for pearls to have jewelry done on a 1-1 ratio back in desert of flames all the time. Quick check of the rares on my server, only qeynos side: 6 spongy loams at 4.45-5p 32 rough moonstones at 2-3.5p 44 acrylia clusters at 2.39-5p, though the 5p is just an oddity, only 1 person has them listed at 5p, every other one is listed for 2.39-3p Of course this is on the day of the changes, so it will adjust over time, but the problem is two fold, moonstones and acrylia come into the game both through harvests and from collection rewards that can be done multiple times, just do it on an alt or do it on a toon whose only purpose is to do the collect and then be deleted to have a toon with which to do it over again.  The demand for loams will also be much higher since it is used for 2 classes adepts.  It seems sony's idea is that each rare has two uses now: spongy loam:  fighter/scout adepts acrylia:  mage adepts, melee jewelry moonstone: priest adepts, caster jewelry The problem is adepts mean about  19 or so spells/CA per class, with the only other upgrade option being masters.  Jewelry means at best 7 slots per class, with many options for filling the slots both drops and quest rewards, so you have spongy loam: 38 uses acrylia: 26 uses at best moonstone: 26 uses at best

[Longtrang]

You had me at SOE Sucks -)

[frisco4]

Sorry but this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn], A) Jewelers do not work with spongy loam so it doesnt make sense to give them ONE TYPE OF COMBINE TO USE IT.  B) It would still be on the same system as t1-t6 had jewelers not complained that people were using pearls and stuff to make spells instead of jewelry, now they got what they wanted but guess what, no one gets that crap jewelry anyways, man im pissT

[roblinb]

I hear complaining here but don't most of you check out the test server updates?  It's not exactly old news that this was gonna happen.

Yes yes we know that we're not responsible to check the forums every day, but two things...

1) That update happened on test on April 20th, which was like two weeks ago, and

2) It's common knowledge to check the forums to keep on top of news about changes coming to the game

It's unfortunate that some of you sold you rares now used to make your adept iii's a day or two before LU-23, but hey you should keep yourself informed.

[BedlamX]

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roblinb wrote:

I hear complaining here but don't most of you check out the test server updates?  It's not exactly old news that this was gonna happen.

Yes yes we know that we're not responsible to check the forums every day, but two things...

1) That update happened on test on April 20th, which was like two weeks ago, and

2) It's common knowledge to check the forums to keep on top of news about changes coming to the game

It's unfortunate that some of you sold you rares now used to make your adept iii's a day or two before LU-23, but hey you should keep yourself informed.

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Well I for for one dont check the test update notes everyday hell I dont check them every week either I just dont have the time to get here that often However. After I checked them today and the portion where the Test update notes speak of tradeskill change was posted on the 26th not the 20th. If I had been a forum junky I prob would have seen it and made my complaint then.  But none the less there are portions of the test update that did not make it to live for example the tradeskill receipe changes.  So how are we to know which will and wont make it to live. I guess it's to much to expect SOE to make good decisions. Scratch that it's too much for me to expect SOE to make good decision regarding scouts because frankly mages IMHO get whatever the hell they want and this just goes to prove it. Give the scouts the rarest of the rares to make adept 3's and give mages the most common. I read somewhere some months ago during LU 20 I believe that most devs played mage class, I may be wrong but if If its true it explains alot.

[Teksun]

If I am not mistaken, Every AD3 took moonstone, it HAD to be changed. I see no problem with it myself...

[Gareorn]

As a Ranger and a Jeweler, I don't like this change at all.  It hurts both ways.  I knew it was coming because I do read the test updates when they get posted (which isn't very often).  But from previous experience, when something goes to test it usually goes live unless it's broke.

 

[phone rang and I lost my train of thought]

 

I can't remember what point I was trying to make, but lets say the only reason I craft is to equip myself and help equip my guild.  I really don't have any interest in it.  I don't find it fun, nor is it profitable.  This change made it more of a chore for me than before, but I'll still continue to keep it up because there are a lot of peaks and valleys in crafting.  And, this problem with the loams should work itself out before too long.  Until then, I imagine App IV stuff will be in demand.  There just isn't a lot of T7 AD1 stuff on the brokers these days.

[LoreLady]

I got lucky and baught 8 moonstones before the patch and had them made.

[StealthM0]

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Teksun wrote:
If I am not mistaken, Every AD3 took moonstone, it HAD to be changed. I see no problem with it myself...

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Just a minor correction. Fighter classes took loams previous to lu23.

The other 3 (18 sub) classes used moonstone.

This move was done to balance the demand across all three rares. What they didnt realize was the fallout on the rare (spongy loam) being priced high as it was. They did not take the economy into account, and now it will just soar. Two classes SHOULD have been placed on acrylia, one on loam, and one on moonstone (moonstone and loam being the two rarest of the 3 harvests).

/end rant

[Prandtl]

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roblinb wrote:

I hear complaining here but don't most of you check out the test server updates?  It's not exactly old news that this was gonna happen.

Yes yes we know that we're not responsible to check the forums every day, but two things...

1) That update happened on test on April 20th, which was like two weeks ago, and

2) It's common knowledge to check the forums to keep on top of news about changes coming to the game

It's unfortunate that some of you sold you rares now used to make your adept iii's a day or two before LU-23, but hey you should keep yourself informed.

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Yes I do check the test server updates. I checked it the day it was posted. And immediately left work and drove 15 miles home to try and pull my acrylia off the market, but it was too late. Some enterprising person who was either in a different time zone or not having to work for a living had already scooped up all the cheap acrylias on my server and had them listed at 1.5pp. I'm sure its gone up again, since the change is on live now.

[Jay]

Except acrylia is by far the most common of the three, but only one class needs it. Why they put two classes on the loam (which IMO is the rarest of them all) is beyond me. Thankfully, I used my moonstones already, but I had five acrylias I was hoping I could turn into Adept IIIs.

[Teksun]

After harvesting for more than 2 weeks (straight)... I STILL haven't gotten a T7 rare

[Jay]

I've harvested on and off since KoS came out, and I've found one loam, no moonstones, and I think four acrylia. I think I got a hide too, gave that to Amalia for her armor. She gave me the two moonstones I had made into Adept IIIs - which is good, cuz I'd have nothin for upgrades otherwise. :smileyindifferent: