Problem after patch with Debuff songs - Anyone else see?

Nalidani · 03-22-2005, 06:47 PM

Last night while I was playing after the patch, I was having a problem with Clara's Crazed Cacophony and Daro's (40 training slow) where

they would frequently 'grey' out. The spell icon would darken as they do when active now, but never refresh, and therefore could not be

recast on the next group of mobs. If clicked, it would indicate 'queued' and do nothing.

The only way to reset the icons was to zone or camp.

Did anyone else experience this problem? I /bugged it, and it happened repeatedly over the course of the night in both CT and Ferrott.

(Note - all other abilities/songs worked fine)

Jzi · 03-22-2005, 07:40 PM

was happening to me with daro's dirge, the first slow. Just wasn't casting and was in que. I /bugged it also.

it was the same if i tried to cast from spell book.

I suspect its soemthing to do with a change when they fixed the recast of our concentration songs and they broke this (as its concentration debuffs you listed too), hopefully it will be or is fixed already.

Colin MacLaren · 03-22-2005, 09:34 PM

Same here. However, can't /bug it, my bug-window ist bugged as well, as is the broker.

Laureous · 03-22-2005, 10:42 PM

Noted and bugged last night. Selos Chorus of Cessitation is pretty much doing what you descirbed above.

Koibito · 03-22-2005, 11:31 PM

Yes, exact same thing was happening to me. It doesn't take long to occur. During my grouping session eventually all 3 of my most used debuffs had the queue bug. I was in such dispair.

Also want to note that opening Journal now freezes game for 1 sec. Never occured before.

Edit: I was also grouped with a troubador. He also experienced the same problems with his debuffs.

Message Edited by Gadilus on 03-22-2005 10:35 AM

Gond · 03-23-2005, 12:02 AM

same thing was happening to me. i had to camp out multiple times to fix it =(

QuiPo · 03-23-2005, 06:05 AM

Yes, happening to me as well, I also bugged it. This is almost a showstopper for dirges imo.

Chabisu · 03-23-2005, 06:52 AM

Same problem here. Level 26 Dirge and Reproaching Discante as well as Clara's Chaotic Cacophony both had this happen for the bit of time I played yesterday (in Nek Forest if it matters). I haven't played today so didn't notice if it was fixed for me after the update, but it seems it probably isn't from the responses here.It didn't bother me much as I was mostly just soloing quest updates, but will be a pain the next time I get in a group and can't use either song.

QuiPo · 03-23-2005, 10:24 AM

I just spent a few hours in a fast xp group in runnyeye & had to giveup using my debuffs after about 5min because of this. I filled my remaining slots with offensive buffs, but this is still really lame.

Kostamoj · 03-23-2005, 01:47 PM

Just happened to me as well. Better be fixed in tommorows update... This is not acceptable.

Nirvy · 03-23-2005, 02:42 PM

Same here : It only affects Clara's for me..but then again what other debuffs are anywhere near as a good? Basically i log on, fight a mob, cast clara's. When the mob is dead, Clara's is stuck greyed out. I have to log to get it back. Kinda sucks i have to log each kill now to be able to de-buff :s

Skurry · 03-23-2005, 03:56 PM

Haven't noticed the problem yet, but then I only played for two hours yesterday. German server, maybe we got a different (later) version...?

cult · 03-23-2005, 04:58 PM

Colin MacLaren wrote:Same here. However, can't /bug it, my bug-window ist bugged as wellbr>

That! Is just classic! Makes me think Catch22 SMILEY

Suoju · 03-23-2005, 06:57 PM

Like to add my voice.. hopefully this will be addressed soon.

MiscreantPy · 03-23-2005, 07:12 PM

My selos cessation didnt grey out but it would only let me cast once per battle

Also Mystics were experiencing the same problem with their slowing spell.

Zberyn · 03-23-2005, 07:37 PM

Yep, locked up Clara's in an early quest, it cleared after zoning.

Locked up Daro's and finally zoned that off.

Then Hyran's locked up and that was where I finally became frustrated. I had been tanking for a trio all evening and was actually making good use of this spell. Zoned and fixed that, then two fights later it locked again, luckly right before the time we all had to log.

I actually go light on the buffs and heavy on debuffing, so this is driving me nuts.

ITZBITZ · 03-23-2005, 07:45 PM

This affects EVERY song that can be resisted. This is totally broke and crap. Did nobody try to cast on a mob and get resisted on test? Are the players on test purely there to find exploits before the rest of us? What the [Removed for Content]. Did an instance last night, of course, I can't zone out or camp because I'll be dropped and won't get back into the zone. About a third of the way through a mob resists my Claras. It dimmed. I figured I might as well try some worthless debuffs, so I throw a Discante -- resisted, dimmed. Next I throw out a Doleful Dirge, resisted later on and dimmed. So every debuff on my bar is now dimmed. I'm so worthless it's not even funny. We eat probably 3-4 deaths each and finish the instance. Guess what? Unearthing is broken -- the coffin is no longer glowing and should be unlocked but it won't open. I'm never going to do [Removed for Content] within a few days of a patch ever again. This is utter crap and the reason I quite EQLive years ago. And I'm not playing on test to have a garbage character and help out for no compensation. Sorry, the geek factor doesn't win here, let me COPY my main to test and try all my abilities to test it out and not have to level a junk toon there and I would consider it, but certainly not going to waste my time testing for testing sake. No way I'd make 40+ in a craft on test, what a joke. Yes, I'm angry at the garbage that has been filtering out of SOE lately, but who isn't? Everytime they fix something, they break a dozen other things. I work in software development, accidents happen, but on a regular basis, it is grounds for termination around here.

Kilil · 03-23-2005, 09:44 PM

Had that problem with Sneak, greyed out till I zoned.

Kilil

Quiern · 03-23-2005, 10:53 PM

Hey guys I think I have figured out what is greying out our songs, After Playing last night and working on those songs trying to figure out what the hell SOE did this time, I noticed something. Everytime the mob would resist the song it would auto grey the song till I either zoned or loged out.

I buged this last night and thought I would let you all know.

Nickolus · 03-24-2005, 11:56 AM

Yep same here it's getting down right frustrating can't cast Daro's Sorrowful Dirge, Claras Crazed Car. , or my new Zandar's Choral Rebuff more than 2 or 3 times and they grey out and are uncastable until I zone or log. And sometimes that doesnt seem to reset them. Spent the whole night in Sol Eye unable to slow or debuff because of it, it's really rediculous that no dev has even responded to us about this. This is a half of what I do. Wonder if we cut off one of their arms and made them half as effective....... no no then it would be even longer until they read this. This along with our Stealth change of linking our run song with the Herl's Kindling Strain line was a nice touch. Not to mention EVERY single patch they link and unlink our spells so everytime there is a ptch we have to go to our spell books and stat casting and watching what greys out so we can figure out what our new spell line up of the month will be. Its fine if they are suppose to be that way but why the heck can't they put it in the patch note so it isn't a big guessing game ever couple weeks. For that matter the game seems to change from week to week with no mention in any of the notes like the new see thru invis mobs they stealthed into lavastorm in the last patch (among plenty of other things) that you don't find out about until it causes a death. Oh and while were on Lavastorm.... HOW HARD IS IT TO FIX THE MAP IN LAVASTORM THAT HAS BEEN [Removed for Content] SINCE DAY ONE. When you get all the way to Sol Eye it starts uncovering the docks and shows you in the water by the docks. Better stop now im getting off track.

Ylisa · 03-24-2005, 12:29 PM

Colin MacLaren wrote:
Same here. However, can't /bug it, my bug-window ist bugged as well, as is the broker.

This is a conflict with custom UIs. Just go to your custom UI folder and delete the fonts XML file to fix it SMILEY

Skurry · 03-25-2005, 02:29 AM

OK, now I have the problem, too. Clara's got resisted, now it's disabled.

SOE better get that fixed quickly.

Avoc · 03-25-2005, 07:17 AM

I agree that this is a major show-stopper. It also only seems to happen when I'm grouped, never solo. Also, the only thing that fixes it for me is a complete relog. Zoning doesn't solve this for me. I doubt the devs ever get in here though, I've definitely never seen them post here, perhaps we should post this over in the Gameplay forums as well. This is just far too important to be ignored or missed.

Colin MacLaren · 03-25-2005, 02:28 PM

According to test server update notes a fix is on the way SMILEY

Avoc · 03-26-2005, 07:58 AM

Played in CT last night, and even after resists, debuffs still worked. It appears we're fixed. Thank you devs! You do love us! You really do love us!

Clarissa3 · 03-26-2005, 05:06 PM

Sneak is still Bugged though. It goes all flashy, says queued, and hangs there. Until I zone or log, and yes...Only happens when I'm In a group. So I can solo, but if I get a group... slowly, My debuffs go grey...and queue. And no...it's Not fixed yet. It is still happening, Not Only with sneak....but also, with Debuffs.

Avoc · 03-27-2005, 04:26 PM

Don't know maybe I've just gotten lucky then. That might be the case. I used sneak all day in a group today with no troubles, turning it on and off, and I was also able to play all my songs, debuffs included, without a problem, even after resists, all while in a group.

Perhaps it's something else causing it?

03-22-2005, 10:42 PM	#4
Laureous Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 80	Noted and bugged last night. Selos Chorus of Cessitation is pretty much doing what you descirbed above. __________________ Koka Kabanna OGRE Dirge Steamfront

03-23-2005, 12:02 AM	#6
Gond Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	same thing was happening to me. i had to camp out multiple times to fix it =( __________________ Rriis Silverhand, Crushbone http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=228191203

03-23-2005, 06:52 AM	#8
Chabisu Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 72	Same problem here. Level 26 Dirge and Reproaching Discante as well as Clara's Chaotic Cacophony both had this happen for the bit of time I played yesterday (in Nek Forest if it matters). I haven't played today so didn't notice if it was fixed for me after the update, but it seems it probably isn't from the responses here.It didn't bother me much as I was mostly just soloing quest updates, but will be a pain the next time I get in a group and can't use either song. __________________ Oeep, Reep, Peep, Zeep, and Weep Beastlord, Necromancer, Bruiser, Coercer, and Dirge Butcherblock Server

03-23-2005, 02:42 PM	#11
Nirvy Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 51	Same here : It only affects Clara's for me..but then again what other debuffs are anywhere near as a good? Basically i log on, fight a mob, cast clara's. When the mob is dead, Clara's is stuck greyed out. I have to log to get it back. Kinda sucks i have to log each kill now to be able to de-buff :s __________________ Calendor 46 Erudite Fury (Splitpaw)

03-23-2005, 03:56 PM	#12
Skurry Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 296	Haven't noticed the problem yet, but then I only played for two hours yesterday. German server, maybe we got a different (later) version...? __________________ www.streiflicht.net/parsefal Logfileanalyse fÃ¼r Everquest 2 (deutsch)

03-22-2005, 06:47 PM	#1
Nalidani Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4	Last night while I was playing after the patch, I was having a problem with Clara's Crazed Cacophony and Daro's (40 training slow) where they would frequently 'grey' out. The spell icon would darken as they do when active now, but never refresh, and therefore could not be recast on the next group of mobs. If clicked, it would indicate 'queued' and do nothing. The only way to reset the icons was to zone or camp. Did anyone else experience this problem? I /bugged it, and it happened repeatedly over the course of the night in both CT and Ferrott. (Note - all other abilities/songs worked fine)

03-22-2005, 07:40 PM	#2
Jzi Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 94	was happening to me with daro's dirge, the first slow. Just wasn't casting and was in que. I /bugged it also. it was the same if i tried to cast from spell book. I suspect its soemthing to do with a change when they fixed the recast of our concentration songs and they broke this (as its concentration debuffs you listed too), hopefully it will be or is fixed already.

03-22-2005, 09:34 PM	#3
Colin MacLaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 129	Same here. However, can't /bug it, my bug-window ist bugged as well, as is the broker.

03-22-2005, 11:31 PM	#5
Koibito Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 82	Yes, exact same thing was happening to me. It doesn't take long to occur. During my grouping session eventually all 3 of my most used debuffs had the queue bug. I was in such dispair. Also want to note that opening Journal now freezes game for 1 sec. Never occured before. Edit: I was also grouped with a troubador. He also experienced the same problems with his debuffs. Message Edited by Gadilus on 03-22-2005 10:35 AM

03-23-2005, 06:05 AM	#7
QuiPo Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 66	Yes, happening to me as well, I also bugged it. This is almost a showstopper for dirges imo.

03-23-2005, 10:24 AM	#9
QuiPo Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 66	I just spent a few hours in a fast xp group in runnyeye & had to giveup using my debuffs after about 5min because of this. I filled my remaining slots with offensive buffs, but this is still really lame.

03-23-2005, 01:47 PM	#10
Kostamoj Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 20	Just happened to me as well. Better be fixed in tommorows update... This is not acceptable.

03-23-2005, 04:58 PM	#13
cult General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 36	Colin MacLaren wrote:Same here. However, can't /bug it, my bug-window ist bugged as wellbr> That! Is just classic! Makes me think Catch22 __________________

03-23-2005, 06:57 PM	#14
Suoju Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Like to add my voice.. hopefully this will be addressed soon.

03-23-2005, 07:12 PM	#15
MiscreantPy Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 197	My selos cessation didnt grey out but it would only let me cast once per battle Also Mystics were experiencing the same problem with their slowing spell. __________________ Symphonia -70 Buffbot / 62 Armorer, Halcyon Affinity Stop calling me dps.

03-23-2005, 07:37 PM	#16
Zberyn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 56	Yep, locked up Clara's in an early quest, it cleared after zoning. Locked up Daro's and finally zoned that off. Then Hyran's locked up and that was where I finally became frustrated. I had been tanking for a trio all evening and was actually making good use of this spell. Zoned and fixed that, then two fights later it locked again, luckly right before the time we all had to log. I actually go light on the buffs and heavy on debuffing, so this is driving me nuts. __________________ Syrisa D'Akyr Berserker and Weaponsmith of Neriak Antonia Bayle Server

03-23-2005, 07:45 PM	#17
ITZBITZ Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 115	This affects EVERY song that can be resisted. This is totally broke and crap. Did nobody try to cast on a mob and get resisted on test? Are the players on test purely there to find exploits before the rest of us? What the [Removed for Content]. Did an instance last night, of course, I can't zone out or camp because I'll be dropped and won't get back into the zone. About a third of the way through a mob resists my Claras. It dimmed. I figured I might as well try some worthless debuffs, so I throw a Discante -- resisted, dimmed. Next I throw out a Doleful Dirge, resisted later on and dimmed. So every debuff on my bar is now dimmed. I'm so worthless it's not even funny. We eat probably 3-4 deaths each and finish the instance. Guess what? Unearthing is broken -- the coffin is no longer glowing and should be unlocked but it won't open. I'm never going to do [Removed for Content] within a few days of a patch ever again. This is utter crap and the reason I quite EQLive years ago. And I'm not playing on test to have a garbage character and help out for no compensation. Sorry, the geek factor doesn't win here, let me COPY my main to test and try all my abilities to test it out and not have to level a junk toon there and I would consider it, but certainly not going to waste my time testing for testing sake. No way I'd make 40+ in a craft on test, what a joke. Yes, I'm angry at the garbage that has been filtering out of SOE lately, but who isn't? Everytime they fix something, they break a dozen other things. I work in software development, accidents happen, but on a regular basis, it is grounds for termination around here. __________________

03-23-2005, 09:44 PM	#18
Kilil Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 76	Had that problem with Sneak, greyed out till I zoned. Kilil

03-23-2005, 10:53 PM	#19
Quiern General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8	Hey guys I think I have figured out what is greying out our songs, After Playing last night and working on those songs trying to figure out what the hell SOE did this time, I noticed something. Everytime the mob would resist the song it would auto grey the song till I either zoned or loged out. I buged this last night and thought I would let you all know.

03-24-2005, 11:56 AM	#20
Nickolus Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3	Yep same here it's getting down right frustrating can't cast Daro's Sorrowful Dirge, Claras Crazed Car. , or my new Zandar's Choral Rebuff more than 2 or 3 times and they grey out and are uncastable until I zone or log. And sometimes that doesnt seem to reset them. Spent the whole night in Sol Eye unable to slow or debuff because of it, it's really rediculous that no dev has even responded to us about this. This is a half of what I do. Wonder if we cut off one of their arms and made them half as effective....... no no then it would be even longer until they read this. This along with our Stealth change of linking our run song with the Herl's Kindling Strain line was a nice touch. Not to mention EVERY single patch they link and unlink our spells so everytime there is a ptch we have to go to our spell books and stat casting and watching what greys out so we can figure out what our new spell line up of the month will be. Its fine if they are suppose to be that way but why the heck can't they put it in the patch note so it isn't a big guessing game ever couple weeks. For that matter the game seems to change from week to week with no mention in any of the notes like the new see thru invis mobs they stealthed into lavastorm in the last patch (among plenty of other things) that you don't find out about until it causes a death. Oh and while were on Lavastorm.... HOW HARD IS IT TO FIX THE MAP IN LAVASTORM THAT HAS BEEN [Removed for Content] SINCE DAY ONE. When you get all the way to Sol Eye it starts uncovering the docks and shows you in the water by the docks. Better stop now im getting off track.

03-24-2005, 12:29 PM	#21
Ylisa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Colin MacLaren wrote: Same here. However, can't /bug it, my bug-window ist bugged as well, as is the broker. This is a conflict with custom UIs. Just go to your custom UI folder and delete the fonts XML file to fix it

03-25-2005, 02:29 AM	#22
Skurry Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 296	OK, now I have the problem, too. Clara's got resisted, now it's disabled. SOE better get that fixed quickly. __________________ www.streiflicht.net/parsefal Logfileanalyse fÃ¼r Everquest 2 (deutsch)

03-25-2005, 07:17 AM	#23
Avoc Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	I agree that this is a major show-stopper. It also only seems to happen when I'm grouped, never solo. Also, the only thing that fixes it for me is a complete relog. Zoning doesn't solve this for me. I doubt the devs ever get in here though, I've definitely never seen them post here, perhaps we should post this over in the Gameplay forums as well. This is just far too important to be ignored or missed. __________________ ======================= Lamenting the loss of Neriak Tecova, 63 Dirge of Befallen =======================

03-25-2005, 02:28 PM	#24
Colin MacLaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 129	According to test server update notes a fix is on the way

03-26-2005, 07:58 AM	#25
Avoc Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	Played in CT last night, and even after resists, debuffs still worked. It appears we're fixed. Thank you devs! You do love us! You really do love us! __________________ ======================= Lamenting the loss of Neriak Tecova, 63 Dirge of Befallen =======================

03-26-2005, 05:06 PM	#26
Clarissa3 General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 11	Sneak is still Bugged though. It goes all flashy, says queued, and hangs there. Until I zone or log, and yes...Only happens when I'm In a group. So I can solo, but if I get a group... slowly, My debuffs go grey...and queue. And no...it's Not fixed yet. It is still happening, Not Only with sneak....but also, with Debuffs.

03-27-2005, 04:26 PM	#27
Avoc Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	Don't know maybe I've just gotten lucky then. That might be the case. I used sneak all day in a group today with no troubles, turning it on and off, and I was also able to play all my songs, debuffs included, without a problem, even after resists, all while in a group. Perhaps it's something else causing it? __________________ ======================= Lamenting the loss of Neriak Tecova, 63 Dirge of Befallen =======================