History of Mithaniel Marr

ranger1 · 11-13-2006, 06:31 AM

Hi all, can anyone point me in the right direction to find some cool stories and lots of background info on him?

Cusashorn · 11-13-2006, 07:03 AM

Mithaniel Marr · The Truthbringer

Mithaniel Marr, the Truthbringer, governs the Plane of Valor. Mithaniel is the ultimate paladin who wears a full suit of shining silver plate armor and wields a glowing longsword. Mithanial owes his existence to Tarew Marr, leader of the Triumvirate of Water

Mithanial Marr is the creator of the Barbarians and Frogloks.

For a time on Norrath, Mithanial Marr was actually weakened and Captured by Cazic and Terris Thule. Terris Thule tried her best methods to torment him and corrupt him, but Mithanial held through. Morrel Thule (the black sheep of the family. He's a GOOD god) decided to help him out by depositing half of Mithanial's spirit into Erollisi Marr, who then was living among the mortals and being taken care of by the high elves in Felwithe, and the other half in the Swamps of Innothule, where the Frogloks would take care of it untill the time was right for him to return.

Mirander_1 · 11-13-2006, 07:22 AM

Cusashorn wrote:
For a time on Norrath, Mithanial Marr was actually weakened and Captured by Cazic and Terris Thule. Terris Thule tried her best methods to torment him and corrupt him, but Mithanial held through. Morrel Thule (the black sheep of the family. He's a GOOD god) decided to help him out by depositing half of Mithanial's spirit into Erollisi Marr, who then was living among the mortals and being taken care of by the high elves in Felwithe, and the other half in the Swamps of Innothule, where the Frogloks would take care of it untill the time was right for him to return.

Here's the expanded version of that story :smileywink::

From Pond to Paladin:or the Origins of Froglok and Man

By Glupurp Stoneskipper, Paladin of Marr

My noble kinsman, I bring to you the knowledge of our origins, as well as the origins of Man, that have been bestowed upon me by the scholars of the City of New Tanaan, and those who have visited the Halls of Honor, home of our Lord Mithaniel Marr. I am but a humble Paladin of Mithaniel Marr, born like many of our kind in the swamps of Southern Antonica. I deserve no adulation for penning these words. This work is in honor of all Froglok, current, past and yet to come.

In the early ages of Norrath, before the arrival of Man, the Marr Twins did walk the face of Norrath. The children of a God of Power, Tarrew Marr the Water Lord, the Marr Twins searched for a cause to champion amongst the mortals of Norrath. The Gods of Nature puzzled over the Marr Twins' absence of divine purpose, and the Gods of Influence scoffed at the Twins for seeking such a purpose amongst the mortals. The most malicious of the gods, Innoruuk and Cazic-Thule, sought to corrupt the young Twins. Such an accomplishment would greatly strengthen the forces of Hatred and Fear.

Innoruuk, the twisted God of Hatred and Spite, sent his mortal followers to Tarrew's daughter, Erollisi Marr, to seduce her into the darkness. With the wisdom imparted to Erollisi by her father, she saw through the Teir'Dals' deceptions; their wickedness was more visible to her eyes than even their physical forms. So it came to pass that Erollisi journeyed to the lands of Tunare's fair elves, to escape the sickening advances of the Teir'Dal. It was in the early kingdoms of the elves that Erollisi did find warmth, peace and beauty in the harsh realm of the mortals. It was here that she embraced, and was in return embraced, by a most mortal of traits: Love.

While Erollisi fended off the advances of Innoruuk's mortal agents, the forces of Cazic-Thule beset her twin brother, Mithaniel Marr. Serpents, phantoms and all manner of frightful creatures conjured and commanded by Cazic-Thule's mortal minions came to Mithaniel to assault his body and mind. But Mithaniel was no mortal, and his will was strong; the minions of Thule could not instill within him the fear of their dark lord. They did succeed, however, in luring the brave Mithaniel to the swamps of Norrath, the deadly, dank lands where the creatures of Cazic-Thule were the strongest and most numerous. An army of trolls, lizard folk and forgotten creatures of unspeakable horror beset Mithaniel Marr, and so it came to pass that he became a captive to the minions of the Lord of Fear.

Mithaniel, imprisoned in magical bonds provided to his captors by Cazic-Thule and tortured by relentless monstrosities, prayed to his father day and night for forgiveness and salvation. The prayers continued unanswered until the brave god, weary from torture and weakened by the dark magic of Cazic-Thule, fell into a deep slumber.

It was then that Terris-Thule visited the slumbering god to infect his sleep with nightmares more horrible than the events he had endured at the hands of his captors during his waking hours. However, at the beseeching of her father, Cazic-Thule, Terris was not permitted to inflict such terror onto Mithaniel Marr until after she first deceived him through his dreams to steal the gift of life from his body. So Terris did as her father commanded and the slumbering horrors began.

Morell-Thule, the forsaken son of Cazic, and brother of Terris, took notice of Terris' manipulations of the slumbering God, for while Terris is the Queen of Nightmares, Morell is the King of Dreams. For reasons unknown, perhaps simply to foil the plans of his wicked father and sister, Morell-Thule stole the gift of life that had been taken from the slumbering Mithaniel and escaped into his Demi-Plane of Dreams. Knowing that his enraged family would soon visit his home, Morell divided Mithaniels Gift of Life, scattering one half across all the swamps of Norrath, the sacred lands of his father, Cazic-Thule.

Where Mithaniel's Gift of Life fell upon the swamps of Norrath, the first Froglok Tads were born. Those first Tads had the hardest trials of our people. Until that point, the swamps belonged only to the foul and destructive creatures of the dark gods. Fortunately the gift of life that had brought our first ancestors into being also empowered them with the bravery and valor Mithaniel Marr had exhibited during his trials in the mortal realms.

Once the swamps had been seeded with the first of our kind, the Lord of Dreams, Morell-Thule, visited Mithaniel Marr's twin sister, Erollisi Marr. While the Goddess of Love blissfully rested in the lands of the fair elves, Morell-Thule entered her dreams and gave to her the second half of Mithaniel's Gift of Life. It was soon to be evident to the fair elves that their visiting daughter of the gods was with child and they took her to an uninhabited region of the frozen northlands of Antonica, where they could tend to and guard her in seclusion.

While the elves watched after Erollisi, the first of our ancestors grew from Tads into adult Frogloks, and Morell-Thule gifted them with dreams of the imprisoned Mithaniel Marr, and visions of a means to free the brave son of Tarrew. So it came to pass that from all the swamps of Norrath, the first Frogloks rose in arms against the minions of Cazic-Thule, fighting valiantly to the site of Mithaniel Marr's imprisonment, guided by visions from the Lord of Dreams.

For uncounted years the Frogloks battled the evil inhabitants of Norraths swamplands, learning the lessons of both victory and defeat. Alas, Cazic-Thule is an ancient and powerful god, and his minions are numerous and diverse. Try as they might, the ancestor Frogloks could not reach their imprisoned god, but never did they cease their efforts, despite the daunting odds.

Then, after some time, a small army arrived on the borders of the swamp that was Mithaniel Marr's prison. Not an army of Frogloks, but an army of Northmen, the children of Erollisi Marr. They, too, had been guided by visions and dreams of the imprisoned god from whose life they were conceived. Seeking justice for the imprisonment of their father, the Northmen joined with the Froglok armies and the alliance of Froglok and Man succeeded in freeing their father Mithaniel Marr. The minions of Cazic-Thule and the Avatar of Fear himself fell before the unity and valor of the children of Marr. For the first time in the history of Norrath, the swamps were not safe for the evil creations of the dark gods.

It was in the brave and selfless actions of the ancestor Frogloks and Northmen that Mithaniel Marr discovered the mortal trait of Valor, and because of Morell-Thule's honorable delivering of the truth of our origins to our ancestors in visions and dream, Mithaniel also chose to champion the virtues of honesty as well as valor.

Such is the tale of my Lord Mithaniel Marr, of the origins of my fellow Frogloks, and of our distant brethren, the race of Men. It is a shame that so many of our kind, as well as many of the race of men, have strayed from the virtues of our ancestors. May Mithaniel Marr bless us, his faithful servants, with the powers to redeem our fallen kin from the clutches of evil.

ranger1 · 11-13-2006, 07:22 AM

Yeah, I saw that on Trodoon's post. Is that all though? Id really like to read some other storeis.

Cusashorn · 11-13-2006, 07:29 AM

Yeah pretty much. There's really not much in the way of what the gods do on thier days off.

Most everything else relating to Mithanial Marr is just Paladin lore, and even then he's not involved.

ranger1 · 11-13-2006, 07:51 AM

Thanks Mirander, That was aswome. Its that kind of stuff Im looking for. Id really like to see some books come out. Im totally in love with the Star Wars expanded univers books and would really like to see some EQ type books.

Mirander_1 · 11-13-2006, 11:42 AM

ranger1 wrote:Thanks Mirander, That was aswome. Its that kind of stuff Im looking for. Id really like to see some books come out. Im totally in love with the Star Wars expanded univers books and would really like to see some EQ type books.

There actually are two standalone Everquest novels that you may be able to find. The first one, called "Rogue's Hour," I wouldn't bother with; it uses names and places, but it just doesn't feel like Everquest, if you know what I mean. However, the second book, titled "Ocean of Tears," I would highly recomend. It takes place during a pivotal event in Everquest history, and stars a character that, I think, features mostly in the pen and paper RPG, and is mentioned very briefly in EQ2. Of course, the author does take some liberties with the lore and makes a couple errors, but nothing major.

Hagran · 11-13-2006, 03:16 PM

I have recently read, Rogue's Hour and Ocean of Tears at the moment i am reading Truth and Steel, which is alot more Marr focused as its about a Steel Warrior and a female Knight of Truth. Been rather good so far then there is another one called The Blood red Harp which i am waiting on.But as Cusashorn said there is very little lore directly about Marr, Which is why i mostly look into his followers among Mortals more than himself, Though i feel he might have a story or two coming around soon.While we are on the subject of Marr, i have seen the Froglok in Tenebrous Tangle who serves Erollisi but i was wondering if a Froglok wizard might be a follower of Tarew Marr instead of Mith and Eroll?*Here's hoping*

Message Edited by Hagran on 11-13-2006 10:18 AM

StaAk · 11-17-2006, 08:27 PM

Here's a bit more on Mithaniel (and his sister) from the words of his prophet during his quest line.

Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"The frogloks and Northmen were not the Marr twins first creations as commonly believed. This information was recently revealed to me by a solemn and humbled Lord Marr. There was a time when Mithaniel and Erollisi walked upon Norrath, unnoticed by the other, more elder gods. In the naivety of their youth, they thought they could be like the other gods and sought to create mortals of their own."

You say to Sir Bayden Cauldthorn,"Very interesting."

Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"Mithaniel wanted to create a race that personified honor and courage. He created the minotaur, but quickly discovered he did not know how to nurture them or be a father to them. Although they proved to be extremely fearless in battle, they lacked direction and moral grounding. Being young and unexperienced, Mithaniel did not know how to develop his children. He would soon lose his creation to one who had a use for the minotaur and was far more experienced in the ways of controlling mortals."

You say to Sir Bayden Cauldthorn,"Who was it?"

Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"Rallos Zek, the Warlord, saw the misguided minotaur and coveted their fearlessness in battle. He needed troops like these within his ranks and added them to his army. Mithaniel was powerless to stop his creations from being enticed by the Warlord and could only watch as they helped to invade the Plane of Earth as part of the first Rallosian army. It grieved Mithaniel to have to witness the cursing of his minotaur for their part in the slaying of the Rathe Council. This curse caused the minotaur to have poor memory and shun all history. From this, the minotaur were unable to advance as a people or culture. They have always remained in a primitive state, unable to build upon the achievements or progress of themselves or others."

You say to Sir Bayden Cauldthorn,"You mentioned Erollisi created a race too."

Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"Yes, she did. Unlike her brother, Erollisi looked for help in creating a race. E'ci, the goddess of ice, and a co-ruler of the Plane of Water with Erollisi's father, Tarew Marr, agreed to help the young goddess. E'ci supervisored Erollisi's creation of the winged valkyries. At first Erollisi listened to all E'ci instructed concerning the nurture and guidance of the valkyrie, but after time, in her impetuousness of youth, she heeded E'ci less and less, believing she knew what she was doing. Eventually, Erollisi ceased to listen to E'ci and went about things her own way."

You say to Sir Bayden Cauldthorn,"Did Rallos take the valkyrie, too?"

Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"No, Erollisi followed the wise advice of E'Ci and created the valkyrie far to the north, hidden and away from others. They did not fall under the Warlord's gaze. However, the valkyrie, too, grew unguided as the inexperienced Erollisi looked on. E'Ci feared for the future of the race she helped create and at the council of the gods that convened following the invasion of the Plane of Earth, she rebuked Erollisi for her irresponsibilty and took over the guidance of the valkyrie. It was agreed by the Triumvirate of Water that the Marr twins had much to learn before they were to act as creators again. "

You say to Sir Bayden Cauldthorn,"But they did go on to create others."

Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"Yes. Mithaniel and his sister would grow wiser and more experienced. They would bless the world with frogloks and the early humans known as the Northmen, or barbarians. It has not been an easy thing for Mithaniel to reveal this, but he knows that good will come of it."

11-13-2006, 06:31 AM	#1
ranger1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 34	Hi all, can anyone point me in the right direction to find some cool stories and lots of background info on him? __________________

11-13-2006, 07:22 AM	#3
Mirander_1 Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,229	Cusashorn wrote: For a time on Norrath, Mithanial Marr was actually weakened and Captured by Cazic and Terris Thule. Terris Thule tried her best methods to torment him and corrupt him, but Mithanial held through. Morrel Thule (the black sheep of the family. He's a GOOD god) decided to help him out by depositing half of Mithanial's spirit into Erollisi Marr, who then was living among the mortals and being taken care of by the high elves in Felwithe, and the other half in the Swamps of Innothule, where the Frogloks would take care of it untill the time was right for him to return. Here's the expanded version of that story :smileywink:: From Pond to Paladin:or the Origins of Froglok and Man By Glupurp Stoneskipper, Paladin of Marr My noble kinsman, I bring to you the knowledge of our origins, as well as the origins of Man, that have been bestowed upon me by the scholars of the City of New Tanaan, and those who have visited the Halls of Honor, home of our Lord Mithaniel Marr. I am but a humble Paladin of Mithaniel Marr, born like many of our kind in the swamps of Southern Antonica. I deserve no adulation for penning these words. This work is in honor of all Froglok, current, past and yet to come. In the early ages of Norrath, before the arrival of Man, the Marr Twins did walk the face of Norrath. The children of a God of Power, Tarrew Marr the Water Lord, the Marr Twins searched for a cause to champion amongst the mortals of Norrath. The Gods of Nature puzzled over the Marr Twins' absence of divine purpose, and the Gods of Influence scoffed at the Twins for seeking such a purpose amongst the mortals. The most malicious of the gods, Innoruuk and Cazic-Thule, sought to corrupt the young Twins. Such an accomplishment would greatly strengthen the forces of Hatred and Fear. Innoruuk, the twisted God of Hatred and Spite, sent his mortal followers to Tarrew's daughter, Erollisi Marr, to seduce her into the darkness. With the wisdom imparted to Erollisi by her father, she saw through the Teir'Dals' deceptions; their wickedness was more visible to her eyes than even their physical forms. So it came to pass that Erollisi journeyed to the lands of Tunare's fair elves, to escape the sickening advances of the Teir'Dal. It was in the early kingdoms of the elves that Erollisi did find warmth, peace and beauty in the harsh realm of the mortals. It was here that she embraced, and was in return embraced, by a most mortal of traits: Love. While Erollisi fended off the advances of Innoruuk's mortal agents, the forces of Cazic-Thule beset her twin brother, Mithaniel Marr. Serpents, phantoms and all manner of frightful creatures conjured and commanded by Cazic-Thule's mortal minions came to Mithaniel to assault his body and mind. But Mithaniel was no mortal, and his will was strong; the minions of Thule could not instill within him the fear of their dark lord. They did succeed, however, in luring the brave Mithaniel to the swamps of Norrath, the deadly, dank lands where the creatures of Cazic-Thule were the strongest and most numerous. An army of trolls, lizard folk and forgotten creatures of unspeakable horror beset Mithaniel Marr, and so it came to pass that he became a captive to the minions of the Lord of Fear. Mithaniel, imprisoned in magical bonds provided to his captors by Cazic-Thule and tortured by relentless monstrosities, prayed to his father day and night for forgiveness and salvation. The prayers continued unanswered until the brave god, weary from torture and weakened by the dark magic of Cazic-Thule, fell into a deep slumber. It was then that Terris-Thule visited the slumbering god to infect his sleep with nightmares more horrible than the events he had endured at the hands of his captors during his waking hours. However, at the beseeching of her father, Cazic-Thule, Terris was not permitted to inflict such terror onto Mithaniel Marr until after she first deceived him through his dreams to steal the gift of life from his body. So Terris did as her father commanded and the slumbering horrors began. Morell-Thule, the forsaken son of Cazic, and brother of Terris, took notice of Terris' manipulations of the slumbering God, for while Terris is the Queen of Nightmares, Morell is the King of Dreams. For reasons unknown, perhaps simply to foil the plans of his wicked father and sister, Morell-Thule stole the gift of life that had been taken from the slumbering Mithaniel and escaped into his Demi-Plane of Dreams. Knowing that his enraged family would soon visit his home, Morell divided Mithaniels Gift of Life, scattering one half across all the swamps of Norrath, the sacred lands of his father, Cazic-Thule. Where Mithaniel's Gift of Life fell upon the swamps of Norrath, the first Froglok Tads were born. Those first Tads had the hardest trials of our people. Until that point, the swamps belonged only to the foul and destructive creatures of the dark gods. Fortunately the gift of life that had brought our first ancestors into being also empowered them with the bravery and valor Mithaniel Marr had exhibited during his trials in the mortal realms. Once the swamps had been seeded with the first of our kind, the Lord of Dreams, Morell-Thule, visited Mithaniel Marr's twin sister, Erollisi Marr. While the Goddess of Love blissfully rested in the lands of the fair elves, Morell-Thule entered her dreams and gave to her the second half of Mithaniel's Gift of Life. It was soon to be evident to the fair elves that their visiting daughter of the gods was with child and they took her to an uninhabited region of the frozen northlands of Antonica, where they could tend to and guard her in seclusion. While the elves watched after Erollisi, the first of our ancestors grew from Tads into adult Frogloks, and Morell-Thule gifted them with dreams of the imprisoned Mithaniel Marr, and visions of a means to free the brave son of Tarrew. So it came to pass that from all the swamps of Norrath, the first Frogloks rose in arms against the minions of Cazic-Thule, fighting valiantly to the site of Mithaniel Marr's imprisonment, guided by visions from the Lord of Dreams. For uncounted years the Frogloks battled the evil inhabitants of Norraths swamplands, learning the lessons of both victory and defeat. Alas, Cazic-Thule is an ancient and powerful god, and his minions are numerous and diverse. Try as they might, the ancestor Frogloks could not reach their imprisoned god, but never did they cease their efforts, despite the daunting odds. Then, after some time, a small army arrived on the borders of the swamp that was Mithaniel Marr's prison. Not an army of Frogloks, but an army of Northmen, the children of Erollisi Marr. They, too, had been guided by visions and dreams of the imprisoned god from whose life they were conceived. Seeking justice for the imprisonment of their father, the Northmen joined with the Froglok armies and the alliance of Froglok and Man succeeded in freeing their father Mithaniel Marr. The minions of Cazic-Thule and the Avatar of Fear himself fell before the unity and valor of the children of Marr. For the first time in the history of Norrath, the swamps were not safe for the evil creations of the dark gods. It was in the brave and selfless actions of the ancestor Frogloks and Northmen that Mithaniel Marr discovered the mortal trait of Valor, and because of Morell-Thule's honorable delivering of the truth of our origins to our ancestors in visions and dream, Mithaniel also chose to champion the virtues of honesty as well as valor. Such is the tale of my Lord Mithaniel Marr, of the origins of my fellow Frogloks, and of our distant brethren, the race of Men. It is a shame that so many of our kind, as well as many of the race of men, have strayed from the virtues of our ancestors. May Mithaniel Marr bless us, his faithful servants, with the powers to redeem our fallen kin from the clutches of evil. __________________ Mirander 90 Wizard Unrest server

11-13-2006, 07:22 AM	#4
ranger1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 34	Yeah, I saw that on Trodoon's post. Is that all though? Id really like to read some other storeis. __________________

11-13-2006, 07:51 AM	#6
ranger1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 34	Thanks Mirander, That was aswome. Its that kind of stuff Im looking for. Id really like to see some books come out. Im totally in love with the Star Wars expanded univers books and would really like to see some EQ type books. __________________

11-13-2006, 11:42 AM	#7
Mirander_1 Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,229	ranger1 wrote:Thanks Mirander, That was aswome. Its that kind of stuff Im looking for. Id really like to see some books come out. Im totally in love with the Star Wars expanded univers books and would really like to see some EQ type books. There actually are two standalone Everquest novels that you may be able to find. The first one, called "Rogue's Hour," I wouldn't bother with; it uses names and places, but it just doesn't feel like Everquest, if you know what I mean. However, the second book, titled "Ocean of Tears," I would highly recomend. It takes place during a pivotal event in Everquest history, and stars a character that, I think, features mostly in the pen and paper RPG, and is mentioned very briefly in EQ2. Of course, the author does take some liberties with the lore and makes a couple errors, but nothing major. __________________ Mirander 90 Wizard Unrest server

11-13-2006, 07:03 AM	#2
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Mithaniel Marr · The Truthbringer Mithaniel Marr, the Truthbringer, governs the Plane of Valor. Mithaniel is the ultimate paladin who wears a full suit of shining silver plate armor and wields a glowing longsword. Mithanial owes his existence to Tarew Marr, leader of the Triumvirate of Water Mithanial Marr is the creator of the Barbarians and Frogloks. For a time on Norrath, Mithanial Marr was actually weakened and Captured by Cazic and Terris Thule. Terris Thule tried her best methods to torment him and corrupt him, but Mithanial held through. Morrel Thule (the black sheep of the family. He's a GOOD god) decided to help him out by depositing half of Mithanial's spirit into Erollisi Marr, who then was living among the mortals and being taken care of by the high elves in Felwithe, and the other half in the Swamps of Innothule, where the Frogloks would take care of it untill the time was right for him to return.

11-13-2006, 07:29 AM	#5
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Yeah pretty much. There's really not much in the way of what the gods do on thier days off. Most everything else relating to Mithanial Marr is just Paladin lore, and even then he's not involved.

11-13-2006, 03:16 PM	#8
Hagran Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 72	I have recently read, Rogue's Hour and Ocean of Tears at the moment i am reading Truth and Steel, which is alot more Marr focused as its about a Steel Warrior and a female Knight of Truth. Been rather good so far then there is another one called The Blood red Harp which i am waiting on.But as Cusashorn said there is very little lore directly about Marr, Which is why i mostly look into his followers among Mortals more than himself, Though i feel he might have a story or two coming around soon.While we are on the subject of Marr, i have seen the Froglok in Tenebrous Tangle who serves Erollisi but i was wondering if a Froglok wizard might be a follower of Tarew Marr instead of Mith and Eroll?Here's hoping Message Edited by Hagran on 11-13-2006 10:18 AM

11-17-2006, 08:27 PM	#9
StaAk Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 30	Here's a bit more on Mithaniel (and his sister) from the words of his prophet during his quest line. Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"The frogloks and Northmen were not the Marr twins first creations as commonly believed. This information was recently revealed to me by a solemn and humbled Lord Marr. There was a time when Mithaniel and Erollisi walked upon Norrath, unnoticed by the other, more elder gods. In the naivety of their youth, they thought they could be like the other gods and sought to create mortals of their own." You say to Sir Bayden Cauldthorn,"Very interesting." Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"Mithaniel wanted to create a race that personified honor and courage. He created the minotaur, but quickly discovered he did not know how to nurture them or be a father to them. Although they proved to be extremely fearless in battle, they lacked direction and moral grounding. Being young and unexperienced, Mithaniel did not know how to develop his children. He would soon lose his creation to one who had a use for the minotaur and was far more experienced in the ways of controlling mortals." You say to Sir Bayden Cauldthorn,"Who was it?" Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"Rallos Zek, the Warlord, saw the misguided minotaur and coveted their fearlessness in battle. He needed troops like these within his ranks and added them to his army. Mithaniel was powerless to stop his creations from being enticed by the Warlord and could only watch as they helped to invade the Plane of Earth as part of the first Rallosian army. It grieved Mithaniel to have to witness the cursing of his minotaur for their part in the slaying of the Rathe Council. This curse caused the minotaur to have poor memory and shun all history. From this, the minotaur were unable to advance as a people or culture. They have always remained in a primitive state, unable to build upon the achievements or progress of themselves or others." You say to Sir Bayden Cauldthorn,"You mentioned Erollisi created a race too." Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"Yes, she did. Unlike her brother, Erollisi looked for help in creating a race. E'ci, the goddess of ice, and a co-ruler of the Plane of Water with Erollisi's father, Tarew Marr, agreed to help the young goddess. E'ci supervisored Erollisi's creation of the winged valkyries. At first Erollisi listened to all E'ci instructed concerning the nurture and guidance of the valkyrie, but after time, in her impetuousness of youth, she heeded E'ci less and less, believing she knew what she was doing. Eventually, Erollisi ceased to listen to E'ci and went about things her own way." You say to Sir Bayden Cauldthorn,"Did Rallos take the valkyrie, too?" Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"No, Erollisi followed the wise advice of E'Ci and created the valkyrie far to the north, hidden and away from others. They did not fall under the Warlord's gaze. However, the valkyrie, too, grew unguided as the inexperienced Erollisi looked on. E'Ci feared for the future of the race she helped create and at the council of the gods that convened following the invasion of the Plane of Earth, she rebuked Erollisi for her irresponsibilty and took over the guidance of the valkyrie. It was agreed by the Triumvirate of Water that the Marr twins had much to learn before they were to act as creators again. " You say to Sir Bayden Cauldthorn,"But they did go on to create others." Sir Bayden Cauldthorn says to you,"Yes. Mithaniel and his sister would grow wiser and more experienced. They would bless the world with frogloks and the early humans known as the Northmen, or barbarians. It has not been an easy thing for Mithaniel to reveal this, but he knows that good will come of it."