pronouncation

[RaphaNissi]

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Themaginator wrote:

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EQ2Playa432 wrote:It just struck me - Felwithe isn't Fel/wi/thee?

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no way Felwithe is  Fel-with dont forget that in english if theres an E at the end of a word it is almost NEVER pronounced EE...lol thats my biggest pet peeve of of all in pronunciation.do you say Bye, Byeeee?  or Tomatoe, Tomatoeeeeeeeeee i hope not =P

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You'll have to take "tomatoe" out of your argument.  It's tomato

[blynchehaun]

< How well does a person from Ireland do pronouncing names on their first visit to India? > Given the amount of Tech Support "out-sourced" to Kuala Lumpor, I think we do just fine, thanks..... Then again, as they're all named John, or Bob, or Sarah, it's really not that hard to pronouce their names at all........ (gotta love corporate contracts that require you to adopt a name for the purposes of your work......... :smileysad:  )

[blynchehaun]

< Agreed! However, that is why they are called "mistakes". There is an accurate way to pronounce everything, and that is what we are looking for, accuracy. Each person may or may not continue to pronounce different names and words to his or her liking, but some of us just want to know what is accurate. > Actually, I think you'll find that they are called "dialects"......... But hey, po-tay-to, po-tah-to...........

[Themaginator]

omg they changed english on me Tomato doesnt have an E LOL

[Vobe]

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Themaginator wrote:

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EQ2Playa432 wrote:
It just struck me - Felwithe isn't Fel/wi/thee?

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no way Felwithe is  Fel-with dont forget that in english if theres an E at the end of a word it is almost NEVER pronounced EE...lol thats my biggest pet peeve of of all in pronunciation.
do you say Bye, Byeeee?  or Tomatoe, Tomatoeeeeeeeeee i hope not =P

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That is for words with a vowel before the silent E, and that makes it a long vowel. Its the difference between "Made" and "Mad".

If the E on the end of Felwithe is infact silent, then the proper way to pronounce it is "fel - why - th", not "fel - wi - th".

As for the words Bye and Toe, again you need to recognize that that E is making the previous vowel sound different.

It cant be pronounced "with" if it has an E on the end. Its either "why - th" or "wi - thee".

[Monnkees]

There is a correct way to pronounce things.... the "tomato/potato" thing has driven me nuts for years and is one of MY pet peeves lol.

 

to‧ma‧to [tuh-mey-toh, -mah-]

 

po‧ta‧to [puh-tey-toh, -tuh]

 

Any time someone uses that example, I will do my best to politely correct it. :smileytongue:

 

Most pronunciations in EQ I have done the same as what the developers posted, with a few exceptions. Several exceptions I went "oh, well that makes sense", a few I refuse to budge on though. One of the exceptions is Qeynos. I always pronounced it "kay-nosse". The ending is the same way they pronounce it in game (like nose with a hissing sound...noss) the beginning though was different. Hearing "Key" for the first time sent shivers up my spine, but I went "ok I can understand that" and promptly switched. I have never heard someone pronounce it "quey" and thank goodness, not sure where that came from.

 

The biggest one is Luclin. I played on the Luclin server in EQ since about when it came out, and have always pronounced it "Loose-lin". I am not entirely sure on the grammar rules surrounding this, but it seems to me there should not be a hard C (luck) sound. At this point, while I am pretty sure I am grammatically correct, even if I find I am not, "lucklin" just sounds far to harsh on my ears. I have always associated the moon with majestic ideas, and Luclin (looselin) herself is the goddess of shadows, mysterious, ethereal in a way, and saying LUCKlin just sounds....far to hard. I went to an EQ convention in San Francisco once, there were about 20 people from the Luclin (looselin) server. One person pronounced it Lucklin and about sent the rest of us into a fit. I have never heard it pronounced Lucklin over teamspeak either (which I avoid anyway, I dont like teamspeak....I prefer text, spelling is much easier to correct than pronunciation, not to mention it is more efficient, and I simply feel more comfortable with it anyway... text VS teamspeak is another discussion though).

 

I hear people pronounce Feerrott different ways, I cant figure out why. "Fear-Rot" seems the obvious pronunciation to me, it also fits lore-wise. A swamp of fear and rot.

 

For the love of all that you cherish, it is the Thundering STEPS! (Steppe is pronounced step) not STEEPS!!! (it causes me physical pain to hear this mispronounced lol). This is not a matter of debate, its a real word with a real (and correct) pronunciation! :smileytongue:

 

4 results for: steppeDictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)

steppe /step/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[step] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation,

–noun 1.an extensive plain, esp. one without trees.2.The Steppes, a.the vast grasslands, esp. those in the S and E European and W and SW Asian parts of Russia.b.Kirghiz Steppe.

 

Anyway, many I agree with, a few I concede on, and some I refuse to have otherwise, Luclin in particular. Moorgard is right though, different places, different pronunciation...but according to the English language, there is a correct way to pronunciate everything. Im sticking with Websters lol

Message Edited by Monnkees on 08-26-2006 10:58 AM

[Cusashorn]

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Vobe wrote:

It cant be pronounced "with" if it has an E on the end. Its either "why - th" or "wi - thee".

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It can be pronounced however the developers want it to be pronounced.

 

If my name was Edwardo in real life, I have every right to declare that the only way to properly pronounce my name was to call me David.

[Caethre]

OOC.

 

This thread has some interesting things in it, that's for certain. Well, I'm happy to stick with the more usual (I think they seem more usual to me) pronunciations for:

 

Luclin as: LUK-lin
Steppes as: STEPS
Feerrott as: FER-rot or FER-root (I don't mind which)

 

However, as a Koad`Dal player all these years (EQ1 and EQ2), I really have always seen their home (marble) city as a three syllable word:

 

Felwithe as: FEL-wi-thi

 

Furthermore, like an earlier poster, I also see the goddess the high elves worship, Tunare, as a three-syllable word.

 

But my main peeve has always been the "americanization" of the pronunication of first syllable of the word "Tunare" even from NPCs that otherwise speak without american accents. Hearing the pronunciation "TOON-AIR" from an "american-accent" NPC is only mildly funny, nothing more, but hearing it from an NPC that has otherwise been set up to have a European English accent, it just sounds plain wrong.

 

The pronunciation of "tune" in England is as "tchoon" and if one said "toon" one would simply sound ignorant.

I would always pronounce anything of this spelling (in the Queen's English!) as illustrated below.

 

Tunare should be: tchoon-AR-ri

 

 

Felishanna.

[Vobe]

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Monnkees wrote:

 I have never heard someone pronounce it "quey" and thank goodness, not sure where that came from.

 

As someone who always said "Kway - nos" before EQ2 came along, the reasoning is simple. It starts with Q. Commonly used words that start with a Q are prounced with a "kw" sound. Quick, Quit, Queen, etc. Qeynos, may not have a U after the Q, but the only word I can think of that starts with a Q, and does NOT have a "kw" sound, is "Que". Which is not a word most people use commonly.

 

 

The biggest one is Luclin.

 

I want to try and explain this one as well. "Loose" does not make sense. In order for the U to make that sound, it either needs a silent E in there somewhere, or it needs to be spelled with two Os. That is how you create the "oo" sound. For example, "loose" and "Lucy". Luclin however, is spelled with "Lu". That makes it a short U, so it should be pronounced "Luh", not "Loo".

 

The rest of the name is spelled "clin". Take a look at the word "clip". Do you pronounce it "slip"? Of course not, you say "klip".

 

Based on what I remember from first grade spelling, I believe "Luclin" should be pronounced "Luh - klin".

 

 

I hear people pronounce Feerrott different ways, I cant figure out why. "Fear-Rot" seems the obvious pronunciation to me, it also fits lore-wise. A swamp of fear and rot.

 

I have always said "fee - rot", making sure to pronounce the T sound at the end. There are two Ts, so they cant be silent. I have no problem with people who say "Fear-rot" or "Farret", but it pains me when someone says "phareoh" (an egyptian king).

 

 

For the love of all that you cherish, it is the Thundering STEPS! (Steppe is pronounced step) not STEEPS!!! (it causes me physical pain to hear this mispronounced lol). This is not a matter of debate, its a real word with a real (and correct) pronunciation! :smileytongue:

 

THANK YOU. I have been saying this for two years now. Its nice to see that there is ONE other person out there who knows how to say "Steppes" properly.

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[Vobe]

Oh, I just thought of another one that drives me crazy.

 

"Riposte"

 

This is a fencing term, which we used often.... back in my fencing class in college.

 

It is: "ri - post"

 

It is not "ree - poh - zay" or whatever other crazy pronunciations I keep hearing on voice chat. Feel free to look it up, there is only one pronunciation for it.

[Barx]

Gotta add my many cp...First, my character's name: Barx Atthemoon."Barx" is pronounced as you think it is: like Barks (as in the dog barks)."Atthemoon" is not pronouced "At The Moon". It's pronouced "ath-uh-moon" Its like two words, Atthe and moon, instead of 3-words.Now, onto Gods!

KWEL-e-ous (Quellious)

 

TU-narre (Tunare) (Tu pronouced like in french, with the 2 r's meaning I extend the r sound, instead of Tu -nair its Tu- narr with a sort of light sigh at the end being the e.

 

KAH-zik Thuul (Cazic Thule)

 

MITH-ahn-iel Marr (Mithanial Marr) (Marr pronouced like the enlish word "mar")

 

EHR-rohl-issy Marr (Erollisi Marr) (I use more of an "e" and less of an "a" sound, as I think it shuold be).

 

Zee-go-nee (Xegony)

 

Feh-nin Roe (Fennin Ro)

 

The Wrath(The Rathe) (Yes, I pronouce "Rathe" like "Wrath" only with less of a "w" sound and more of the r"

 

Ber-tox-you-lous (Bertoxxulous)

 

Brell Sir - illis (Brell Serilis)

 

Sol-you-sekk Roe (Solusek Ro)

 

In-nor-rook (Innoruuk) (with the o's being a very long, almost un-americanly-long o sound, think of the ue sound in "rue" only a bit longer)

 

Zeb-Uhks-or-Ruk (Zebuxoruk)

 

Saar-in (Saryrn) (I know I pronouce this one wrong -- for me that second r is silent)

 

TER-isss Thuule (Terris Thule) (TER being liek the beginning of "Terror" -- TER-is instead of Ther is)

 

Bristle-bane Fizzle-thorpe (Bristlebane) (Hes real easy to pronouce IMHO)

 

Vee-shan (Veeshan) (just like its spelled)

 

Rod-Set Knife (Rodcet Nife)

 

Rall-Ohs Zek (Rallos Zek)

 

Sull-on Zek (Sullon Zek) (like sullen, only with more of a "on" instead of "in"

 

Talon Zek (Tallon Zek) (just like the word "talon")

 

Valon Zek (Vallon Zek) (just like "talon" only with a "v" sound instead of "t"

 

Prek-sus (Prexus)

 

Cah-rah-na (Karana)

[Seffrid]

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Monnkees wrote:

This is not a matter of debate, its a real word with a real (and correct) pronunciation! :smileytongue:

 

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That would be a fair point, but for the fact that we are playing in a fictitious fantasy world where the  words and pronunciation of the real world  have little relevance.

[Kendricke]

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Zoren Northwood wrote:How do you guys pronounce "Vyemm"?In my head I had always thought vie-EM, but now I'm in a guild whose members pronounce it on Ventrilo as VIM.

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Most of the developers at the Atlanta FanFaire referred to him as Lord "Vim".

[BaruMonk]

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Ko'dan wrote:

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Themaginator wrote:this proves some EQ players just plane cant read right lol

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The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh andI awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

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Update: This does not work well when all of the "inside" letters are exactly reversed from the original word:

The panemonehl pewor of the hamun mnid, anidroccg to a rcraeseh at Cgdirbmae Utisreviny, it d'nseot mettar in waht oedrr the lrettes in a wrod are, the olny inatropmt tnihg is taht the fsrit and lsat letter be in the rhgit pcale. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can slitl raed it wuohtit a pelborm. Tihs is bsuacee the hamun mnid deos not raed erevy lteter by ilestf, but the wrod as a wlohe. Anizamg huh? Yaeh and I ayawls thguoht snillepg was inatropmt!

Mroe dluciffit, i'nst it? I tnihk i'ts besuace the iraidemretny lrettes tned to be gepuord tehtegor in pemenohs taht the hamun mnid rdaes in slaml cknuhs, lkie "ck" and "ou," wcihh get dezinagrosid wehn eltcaxy resreved.

Message Edited by BaruMonkey on 08-28-2006 11:23 AM

[Desdichada]

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Seffrid wrote:

After years of playing EQLive with my own interpretation on how names sound, the voice-overs in EQ2 were something of a revelation. To discover after all this time that the place I knew as KAY-NOSS was in fact KEY-NOSE was profoundly distressing!

 

Of course I blame it on it being an American-produced game, we Brits would have done the pronunciation differently :smileywink:!

 

I'm just hoping that if we hear the booming voice of Cazic Thule it won't be along the lines of "Y'all shall fear me n00bs!" :smileyvery-happy:

Message Edited by Seffrid on 08-24-2006 09:37 AM

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This is exactly the way I felt about Kaynoss.  I originally learned the British English to compliment my native Russian, plus after studying Tolkien, I always pronounce ending -e in all propper names in EQ. It has always been Thooleh and Ratheh to me.  I can imagine that many Slavs would pronounce it Cazich as well...

 

[Monnkees]

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Seffrid wrote:

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Monnkees wrote:

This is not a matter of debate, its a real word with a real (and correct) pronunciation! :smileytongue:

 

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That would be a fair point, but for the fact that we are playing in a fictitious fantasy world where the  words and pronunciation of the real world  have little relevance.

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They are using a real word though. Mountains and rivers is still pronounced mountains and rivers, regardless of it being in a fantasy setting. Steppe was not a made up word, so they cant just tack whatever pronunciation they like onto it lol. If I heard someone talking about mountains and they pronounced it moo-un-tah-eens, you bet Id correct it! lol the word steppe is no different. It is a less used word yes, but that doesnt mean you can say it however you like (well you can....buuut I dont wanna go there for now lol).

I am still having difficulties with Lucklin :smileytongue: There was no pronunciation guide...so we made our own rules hehe.

[Uanelven]

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Vobe wrote:

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Monnkees wrote:

 

As someone who always said "Kway - nos" before EQ2 came along, the reasoning is simple. It starts with Q. Commonly used words that start with a Q are prounced with a "kw" sound. Quick, Quit, Queen, etc. Qeynos, may not have a U after the Q, but the only word I can think of that starts with a Q, and does NOT have a "kw" sound, is "Que". Which is not a word most people use commonly.

 

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Probably the reason I have always pronounced  it "Key"  is comes from the word Quay which sort of fits it's traditional function as a port city.

[LordBanxter]

I'm rather new to all this and was wondering about a few pronunciations myself, personally, I say Tune-ARE-ee (Tunare), and since Luclin is the goddess of shadows, I always thought that LUSS-lin sounded better in my head than either LUCK-lin or LOOSE-lin, but as the point has been made countless times, its varying pronunciations of imaginary words for the most part, and left up to whoever is saying it.  For instance, my current main is named Preyforme, which is pronounced to me as PREY-for-me and not PREY-form as some people seem to think it is.

Oh well, these are the main reasons I hardly ever use teamspeak, since the printed word cannot in any circumstances be misconstrued.

 

[Lastdeadmouse]

Ok I got one for ya.   We all know that SoW stands for Spirit of the Wolf, but how do you pronounce SoW?   Is is SoW like "sow your wild oats" or "sew a button on", or is it SoW, as in a female pig?

[Cusashorn]

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Lastdeadmouse wrote:
Ok I got one for ya.   We all know that SoW stands for Spirit of the Wolf, but how do you pronounce SoW?   Is is SoW like "sow your wild oats" or "sew a button on", or is it SoW, as in a female pig?

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This is probably the most debated pronounciation for as long as the series existed. I pronounce it "So", as in "So what?"

[DreamerClou]

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Vobe wrote:

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Themaginator wrote:

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EQ2Playa432 wrote:
It just struck me - Felwithe isn't Fel/wi/thee?

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no way Felwithe is  Fel-with dont forget that in english if theres an E at the end of a word it is almost NEVER pronounced EE...lol thats my biggest pet peeve of of all in pronunciation.
do you say Bye, Byeeee?  or Tomatoe, Tomatoeeeeeeeeee i hope not =P

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That is for words with a vowel before the silent E, and that makes it a long vowel. Its the difference between "Made" and "Mad".

If the E on the end of Felwithe is infact silent, then the proper way to pronounce it is "fel - why - th", not "fel - wi - th".

As for the words Bye and Toe, again you need to recognize that that E is making the previous vowel sound different.

It cant be pronounced "with" if it has an E on the end. Its either "why - th" or "wi - thee".

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The E in "bye" does nothing to the pronounciation of the actual word.  How do you pronounce the word "by" and the word "bye" ? The same, correct?

[Hannalynn]

I guess I'll jump on and say how I pronouce them, though it's really interesting to see the different ways people are saying things and pronouncing them. There are obviously the ways the devs intended them to sound, but I guess in the who looking at languages, there isn't a really wrong way to say it... imo. Depending where you're from and what languages you've been exposed to, can affect how you put together two letters. Having played EQ since mid beta days, most of these pronunciations I've been using forever and well they've just stuck Kel-ee-ous (Quellious)Toon-are-ay (Tunare)Ca-zik Thool (Cazic Thule)Mith-an-ee-al Marr (Mithanial Marr)Ear-all-is-ee Marr (Erollisi Marr)Zeg-oh-nee (Xegony)Fenn-in Ro (Fennin Ro)The Rayth (The Rathe)Ber-tox-you-lous (Bertoxxulous)Brell Ser-ell-iss (Brell Serilis)Sol-you-sek Roh (Solusek Ro)Inn-or-ruk (Innoruuk)Zeb-uhk-zor-ruk (Zebuxoruk)Sar-ay-en (Saryrn)Ter-ris Thool (Terris Thule)Brys-tul-bayn (Bristlebane)Veesh-ahn (Veeshan)Rod-set Nyfe (Rodcet Nife)Ral-lohs Zek (Rallos Zek)Sul-lon Zek (Sullon Zek)Tal-lon Zek (Tallon Zek)Val-lon Zek (Vallon Zek)Prek-sus (Prexus)Car-ah-na (Karana)Druh-zil Ro (Druzzil Ro)E-oh-ni Ro (Ayonae Ro)Loose-lin (Luclin)Po-vahr (Povar)Ee-chi (E'ci)Tar-oo Marr (Tarrew Marr)Veye-min (Vyemm)Fee-rot (Feerrott)Nah-gah-fen (Nagafen)Kay-nohs (Qeynos)Fel-with (Felwithe)Kela-thin (Kelethin)-------------------------Those are all I can think of right now... this is quite an interesting thread

[Grozmok]

I always pronounce it 'Kay-Nose', as 'Key-Nose'... doesn't seem right. But then again I always get flamed on vent for it ("Kaynose? Where's Kaynose?? You have a WHAT claymore??").

[KazzySoJaz]

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Vobe wrote:

Oh, I just thought of another one that drives me crazy.

 

"Riposte"

 

This is a fencing term, which we used often.... back in my fencing class in college.

 

It is: "ri - post"

 

It is not "ree - poh - zay" or whatever other crazy pronunciations I keep hearing on voice chat. Feel free to look it up, there is only one pronunciation for it.

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I laugh everytime I hear someone say Re-posty making the te sound like a ty.

[RaphaNissi]

Since this is the lore forums..how do you guys pronounce Vhalen, Ilucide, and Jindrack?

[KazzySoJaz]

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RaphaNissi wrote:Since this is the lore forums..how do you guys pronounce Vhalen, Ilucide, and Jindrack?

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I am not an expert by any means but I would say Vhalen = Vay-linILucide = E-lu-sid  (if it is double LL I would say You-Sid)Jindrack = Yin-Drak (drak-ota drak sound)

[Jindrack]

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RaphaNissi wrote:
Since this is the lore forums..how do you guys pronounce Vhalen, Ilucide, and Jindrack?

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Jindrack = JIN-drak

Message Edited by Jindrack on 09-06-2006 07:52 PM

[EQ2Playa432]

Eh-LOO-cide is how I pronounce Ilucide.

[selch]

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KazzySoJazzy wrote:

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RaphaNissi wrote:Since this is the lore forums..how do you guys pronounce Vhalen, Ilucide, and Jindrack?

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I am not an expert by any means but I would say Vhalen = Vay-linILucide = E-lu-sid  (if it is double LL I would say You-Sid)Jindrack = Yin-Drak (drak-ota drak sound)

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Yeah, I believe Vah-laen is supposed to be, but for some reason it reminds me "Van Halen" band

[Mirander_1]

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selch wrote:

Yeah, I believe Vah-laen is supposed to be, but for some reason it reminds me "Van Halen" band

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Heh, that was probably actually intentional.  If you look around enough you can find a ton of little references like that in the Everquest world