Firiona Vie

Dragowulf · 07-23-2006, 08:33 AM

What I would like to know is what became of the high elven mistress?She was a queen, and the image of EQ1, no?Any lore on what happend to her?

Message Edited by Dragowulf2 on 07-22-2006 09:35 PM

Mordock of the Highwynd · 07-23-2006, 08:37 AM

Basically we don't know where she went lore wise. The devs stated that Firiona Vie was the mascot of EQlive and they would not focus on her in EQII. They are focusing on Antonia and Lucan.

Dragowulf · 07-23-2006, 08:43 AM

Just wondering, thought she had some lore in eq1, therefore she should have lore about what happend to her over the 500 years, regardless of her being the mascot

Cusashorn · 07-23-2006, 09:41 AM

Mascot issues aside, she's still a high elven princess and the remnants, ruins, or otherwise still existing Outpost of Firiona Vie is the only official part of her being in EQ2 that we can count on. EQ2's storyline in regards to the high elves focuses more around Princess Lenya Thex.

Makes me wonder if FV is really High Elf Royalty. You'd think she'd have Thex as a name if she was related by blood, wouldn't you think?

Xyran · 07-23-2006, 09:51 AM

It was revealed a while ago that Firiona was the Queen's daughter, but not the King's. Her father was the champion of Tunare.... or something like that.

Cusashorn · 07-23-2006, 09:55 AM

I must have missed that detail. Anyway, I could have sworn that SHE was the champion of Tunare. Meh. details.

Mordock of the Highwynd · 07-23-2006, 11:28 AM

She WAS the champion of Tunare. I've never heard of the king being the champion, although the story of her being the queen's daughter but not the king's would make sense. Could you get a quote please?

Dragowulf · 07-23-2006, 11:48 AM

yes...please!

Xyran · 07-24-2006, 07:34 AM

I found this in EQ's Lore and History Forums... I changed it so it has paragraphs, the original form was just a block of text and was painfull for me to read, but as a result I think I accedently deleted Firiona's name somewhere... I found it by going to their forums and searching for her name. I saw another story similar to what was posted there (and I copied below) but it wasn't the same and I cant remember where I saw it but I think it was around the Prophacy of Ro expansion... Firiona was wonded and taken back to Felwith and Al' Kabor went with her and while she was resting the King came in to see her. She said something that made Al'Kabor comment that she had a sense of humor like her fathers, forgetting the King was in the room, and forcing Firiona to tell him( the King) that he wasn't her father.

"I am sorry I left you, Mother . . . and this place. My home. I am sorry I did not request your blessing to bear the burden of bringing good and evil to balance in Norrath. To forsake my life in Growth was forbidden, but I was young and felt I was doing right by you," Galeth cried out and continued, fearing if he stopped he would never own up to his mistakes and be forgiven.
"I did not steal this body that is not my own. On a field of battle between elf and orc I found this shell and made it my own. Mother, I beg your forgiveness . . . for leaving you, this place and my blessed life as one of your servants. I wanted to serve you better . . .," he paused a moment. There was still no answer.

"There are many things I still do not understand and I do not question. Falling in love with Allisea, King Tearis' queen, was unexpected and pure and what that love yielded is still beyond my comprehension. My heart aches with every beat when my daughter is not near me. I feel I am dying inside -- not in this body -- but in my spirit," Galeth said.
Saddened, Galeth leaned back on his heels and gazed to the sky as the wind tousled his hair. He remembered his passage into the mortal realm, becoming a high elf, and growing into a skilled and powerful fighter under the tutelage of his guildmaster, Tynkale. He rose quickly in the ranks of the royal guard of Felwithe.

Then he met King Tearis Thex himself, a high elf with unwavering beliefs and morals, and the queen, Allisea. She was a stunning elf with golden hair. She had an unsurpassed intelligence and a dry sarcasm that always made him smile. Firiona looked like her mother.

Galeth cared deeply for both the king and his wife and the kingdom of Felwithe and served them faithfully. His valor and service led him to become the king's advisor.

While often at the king's side, Galeth spent much of his time in the palace and often found himself in the company of Allisea. They had a profound respect and fondness for one another, something which the king noticed and did not like. Galeth did not know the king had suspicions about his intentions or that he was being followed.

One fine morning, Galeth accompanied Allisea to the pond in the courtyard of the palace. He remembered how beautiful she looked as the sunlight reflected off the water and rippled across her flawless pale skin. She glowed. As they stood and stared into each other's eyes, they grew quiet and both reached out their hands and intertwined their fingers without thought. After several moments, a horse whinnied and broke their entrancement. They quickly pulled back from one another, stunned by the glorious and terrifying realization that they were in love.

They walked slowly back to the palace in silence, occasionally glancing at each other with a glints of embarrassment and sadness.

Though they did not know it, they were seen by the wood elf rogue the king sent to follow them. The wood elf now faced the grim task of telling the king what she saw, though she recognized the beauty and innocence of it. Duty overcame compassion.
That night, after the evening meal, Galeth met Allisea out in the Greater Faydark so she could watch the sunset, as she often did. This night, he brought his horse and lifted her upon it to sit behind him as they rode to a hilltop. It was that night that he and Allisea let their hearts guide them; the night was brought into Norrath.

It was also that very eve when Galeth and Allisea returned to the city to find the way blocked by guards. The queen was taken from the horse and whisked inside the city gates as it was announced that King Tearis had barred Galeth from reentering the city, citing his failure as a royal advisor. Not long after that night, Galeth learned that Allisea was locked in one of the palace towers, never to leave.

Sadness and shame overcame Galeth and he struggled to contain his tears.
"I have caused so much heartache. I lost the woman I love because I did not have the will and honor strong enough to see past my heart. She died because of the strain of bringing a child of immortal and mortal essence into the world. I have lost my daughter a second time. I feel I can endure no more and my work is not done. I still strive to aid my child in striking a balance in this world -- a task you charged her with," Galeth paused, trying to calm his nerves.
"I beg you, merciful Tunare, help me. Give me your blessing to aid me in finding your chosen and my child," Galeth's words trailed off. He was exhausted from the strain of reliving a history that plagued him.
As he sat, he felt a tickle on the back of his neck and a warm rush of air blew his hair onto his face. He turned his head and a smile began to lighten his tortured face.

There, with a triumphant sparkle in its eye, was the Avatar of Growth, a glowing white steed of unmatched purity and elegance. Galeth had been blessed by Tunare, though she could not speak it herself. She sent the avatar as her messenger.
With a silent prayer of thanks, Galeth mounted the steed and set off to find his daughter, and Tunare's Chosen,

Cusashorn · 07-24-2006, 08:48 AM

Prophecy of Ro, you say? Then this means it probably doesn't apply to EQ2 since it happened after.

Interesting read nonetheless though. Who knew that Al'Kabor was strong enough to carry 50 pounds? >_>

Pudaan · 07-24-2006, 08:55 AM

magic gnomes can do a lot of things.

Cusashorn · 07-24-2006, 09:15 AM

.....

Al'Kabor is an erudite...

KniteShayd · 07-25-2006, 01:10 AM

Cusashorn wrote:

.....

Al'Kabor is an erudite...

LoL, yup, ever here the erudite that gives the HQ fro Strange Black rock over by Oracle Tower?

Cusashorn · 07-25-2006, 01:50 AM

yeah. What about it?

firemonkey5 · 07-25-2006, 02:27 AM

How FV was concieved can't be changed. In EQlive and EQ2 FV would still be the daughter of a Queen and her side interest.

Cusashorn · 07-25-2006, 07:02 AM

It can be if the mother was never mentioned before EQ2 happened...

Pudaan · 07-25-2006, 08:12 AM

i dont care about al`kabor, magic gnomes can do a lot of things.

Punkbr · 07-25-2006, 09:08 AM

Cusashorn wrote:
It can be if the mother was never mentioned before EQ2 happened...

Actually, it's more like 'It can be if the EQ2 Devs decide that the story has no bearing in EQ2.' If the devs decide that her story is the same as in EQ1, then that's what happened. They could also decide that she's the daughter of a dragon in human form and a mutated Drake on steroids :p

Cusashorn · 07-25-2006, 09:37 AM

Punkbrad wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

It can be if the mother was never mentioned before EQ2 happened...

Actually, it's more like 'It can be if the EQ2 Devs decide that the story has no bearing in EQ2.' If the devs decide that her story is the same as in EQ1, then that's what happened. They could also decide that she's the daughter of a dragon in human form and a mutated Drake on steroids :p

Forgive me, but that whole "It's whatever the EQ2 Devs decide" trump card really holds no arguative power over me anymore.

Punkbr · 07-25-2006, 12:46 PM

If only I was trying to argue. I was just pointing out a fact: If the EQ2 Devs decide it's fact, it's fact. Until then, it's whatever you want to believe.

firemonkey5 · 07-25-2006, 04:52 PM

Since FV's birth occured before LoY then how ever FV was concieved will have bearing in EQ2. That is why EQ2 ignores her.

KniteShayd · 07-25-2006, 10:42 PM

Just agreeing, dropin info on the ones that dont kno.

iceriven2 · 07-26-2006, 01:34 AM

this seems to bring up the same point as other threads here....what ever happened or what ever we foundn out after PoP has no bearrings on eq2 even if the event we found out after the expansion took place before PoP. In thoery yes this works in favor for the Devs and eq2 lore but it also puts a lot in question if something like FV birth parents were changed. All the lore about Zeb and the split in the time line would be completely false. In other words if the Devs do decide to change something like that the actual split between eq1 and eq2's timeline would be the event that was changed, since it took place before PoP. See how much of a mess that can become lore wise by just saying that since the information was discovered after PoP, but took place years maybe hundrends of years before that event is still not considered eq2 cannon. basically don't discredit iformation like whats being dicussed here just b/c we found after PoP...to make sense with all that lore about zeb guess what it has to have accurred or the split took place before PoP and the timeline that eq2 did split from was not eq1 timeline....see how messy it is getting :p

Ordate · 07-26-2006, 04:46 PM

You kind of have to ignore what has happened in EQ1 after PoP. Mayong becoming a god though it happened after pop, in eq1 has ramifications in the past. Hence you can visit the Elddar Forest there. If you try and combine both time lines at this point, you could end up going in circles for well eternity. While the devs might borrow some post PoP ideas I think making the vast majority of our assumptions post-PoP free would be the smart way to go.

firemonkey5 · 07-26-2006, 10:25 PM

But if the event happened prior to PoP and wasn't explained until after makes the explanation invalid to us? I strongly disagree.

Ordate · 07-26-2006, 10:43 PM

It does though. What is the current idea of why Elddar was destroyed for EQ2? Either a troll, Sol Ro, or the upheaval of the serpentine mountains. Or some combination of the above.

Now in EQLive you have the Mayong of Mistmoore the god adding to that story that really isn't reflected into the lore to date of EQ2. They would have to go back and rewrite previous lore that has been put into EQ2 or come up with a patch over that would seem most likely somewhat artificial.

Message Edited by Ordate on 07-26-2006 11:45 AM

07-23-2006, 08:33 AM	#1
Dragowulf Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California, United States of America Posts: 763	What I would like to know is what became of the high elven mistress?She was a queen, and the image of EQ1, no?Any lore on what happend to her? Message Edited by Dragowulf2 on 07-22-2006 09:35 PM __________________

07-23-2006, 08:43 AM	#3
Dragowulf Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California, United States of America Posts: 763	Just wondering, thought she had some lore in eq1, therefore she should have lore about what happend to her over the 500 years, regardless of her being the mascot __________________

07-23-2006, 11:48 AM	#8
Dragowulf Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California, United States of America Posts: 763	yes...please! __________________

07-24-2006, 08:55 AM	#11
Pudaan General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 37	magic gnomes can do a lot of things. __________________

07-25-2006, 01:10 AM	#13
KniteShayd Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,190	Cusashorn wrote: ..... Al'Kabor is an erudite... LoL, yup, ever here the erudite that gives the HQ fro Strange Black rock over by Oracle Tower?

07-23-2006, 08:37 AM	#2
Mordock of the Highwynd Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 188	Basically we don't know where she went lore wise. The devs stated that Firiona Vie was the mascot of EQlive and they would not focus on her in EQII. They are focusing on Antonia and Lucan.

07-23-2006, 09:41 AM	#4
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Mascot issues aside, she's still a high elven princess and the remnants, ruins, or otherwise still existing Outpost of Firiona Vie is the only official part of her being in EQ2 that we can count on. EQ2's storyline in regards to the high elves focuses more around Princess Lenya Thex. Makes me wonder if FV is really High Elf Royalty. You'd think she'd have Thex as a name if she was related by blood, wouldn't you think?

07-23-2006, 09:51 AM	#5
Xyran Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	It was revealed a while ago that Firiona was the Queen's daughter, but not the King's. Her father was the champion of Tunare.... or something like that.

07-23-2006, 09:55 AM	#6
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	I must have missed that detail. Anyway, I could have sworn that SHE was the champion of Tunare. Meh. details.

07-23-2006, 11:28 AM	#7
Mordock of the Highwynd Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 188	She WAS the champion of Tunare. I've never heard of the king being the champion, although the story of her being the queen's daughter but not the king's would make sense. Could you get a quote please?

07-24-2006, 07:34 AM	#9
Xyran Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	I found this in EQ's Lore and History Forums... I changed it so it has paragraphs, the original form was just a block of text and was painfull for me to read, but as a result I think I accedently deleted Firiona's name somewhere... I found it by going to their forums and searching for her name. I saw another story similar to what was posted there (and I copied below) but it wasn't the same and I cant remember where I saw it but I think it was around the Prophacy of Ro expansion... Firiona was wonded and taken back to Felwith and Al' Kabor went with her and while she was resting the King came in to see her. She said something that made Al'Kabor comment that she had a sense of humor like her fathers, forgetting the King was in the room, and forcing Firiona to tell him( the King) that he wasn't her father. "I am sorry I left you, Mother . . . and this place. My home. I am sorry I did not request your blessing to bear the burden of bringing good and evil to balance in Norrath. To forsake my life in Growth was forbidden, but I was young and felt I was doing right by you," Galeth cried out and continued, fearing if he stopped he would never own up to his mistakes and be forgiven. "I did not steal this body that is not my own. On a field of battle between elf and orc I found this shell and made it my own. Mother, I beg your forgiveness . . . for leaving you, this place and my blessed life as one of your servants. I wanted to serve you better . . .," he paused a moment. There was still no answer. "There are many things I still do not understand and I do not question. Falling in love with Allisea, King Tearis' queen, was unexpected and pure and what that love yielded is still beyond my comprehension. My heart aches with every beat when my daughter is not near me. I feel I am dying inside -- not in this body -- but in my spirit," Galeth said. Saddened, Galeth leaned back on his heels and gazed to the sky as the wind tousled his hair. He remembered his passage into the mortal realm, becoming a high elf, and growing into a skilled and powerful fighter under the tutelage of his guildmaster, Tynkale. He rose quickly in the ranks of the royal guard of Felwithe. Then he met King Tearis Thex himself, a high elf with unwavering beliefs and morals, and the queen, Allisea. She was a stunning elf with golden hair. She had an unsurpassed intelligence and a dry sarcasm that always made him smile. Firiona looked like her mother. Galeth cared deeply for both the king and his wife and the kingdom of Felwithe and served them faithfully. His valor and service led him to become the king's advisor. While often at the king's side, Galeth spent much of his time in the palace and often found himself in the company of Allisea. They had a profound respect and fondness for one another, something which the king noticed and did not like. Galeth did not know the king had suspicions about his intentions or that he was being followed. One fine morning, Galeth accompanied Allisea to the pond in the courtyard of the palace. He remembered how beautiful she looked as the sunlight reflected off the water and rippled across her flawless pale skin. She glowed. As they stood and stared into each other's eyes, they grew quiet and both reached out their hands and intertwined their fingers without thought. After several moments, a horse whinnied and broke their entrancement. They quickly pulled back from one another, stunned by the glorious and terrifying realization that they were in love. They walked slowly back to the palace in silence, occasionally glancing at each other with a glints of embarrassment and sadness. Though they did not know it, they were seen by the wood elf rogue the king sent to follow them. The wood elf now faced the grim task of telling the king what she saw, though she recognized the beauty and innocence of it. Duty overcame compassion. That night, after the evening meal, Galeth met Allisea out in the Greater Faydark so she could watch the sunset, as she often did. This night, he brought his horse and lifted her upon it to sit behind him as they rode to a hilltop. It was that night that he and Allisea let their hearts guide them; the night was brought into Norrath. It was also that very eve when Galeth and Allisea returned to the city to find the way blocked by guards. The queen was taken from the horse and whisked inside the city gates as it was announced that King Tearis had barred Galeth from reentering the city, citing his failure as a royal advisor. Not long after that night, Galeth learned that Allisea was locked in one of the palace towers, never to leave. Sadness and shame overcame Galeth and he struggled to contain his tears. "I have caused so much heartache. I lost the woman I love because I did not have the will and honor strong enough to see past my heart. She died because of the strain of bringing a child of immortal and mortal essence into the world. I have lost my daughter a second time. I feel I can endure no more and my work is not done. I still strive to aid my child in striking a balance in this world -- a task you charged her with," Galeth paused, trying to calm his nerves. "I beg you, merciful Tunare, help me. Give me your blessing to aid me in finding your chosen and my child," Galeth's words trailed off. He was exhausted from the strain of reliving a history that plagued him. As he sat, he felt a tickle on the back of his neck and a warm rush of air blew his hair onto his face. He turned his head and a smile began to lighten his tortured face. There, with a triumphant sparkle in its eye, was the Avatar of Growth, a glowing white steed of unmatched purity and elegance. Galeth had been blessed by Tunare, though she could not speak it herself. She sent the avatar as her messenger. With a silent prayer of thanks, Galeth mounted the steed and set off to find his daughter, and Tunare's Chosen,

07-24-2006, 08:48 AM	#10
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Prophecy of Ro, you say? Then this means it probably doesn't apply to EQ2 since it happened after. Interesting read nonetheless though. Who knew that Al'Kabor was strong enough to carry 50 pounds? >_>

07-24-2006, 09:15 AM	#12
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	..... Al'Kabor is an erudite...

07-25-2006, 01:50 AM	#14
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	yeah. What about it?

07-25-2006, 02:27 AM	#15
firemonkey5 Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 110	How FV was concieved can't be changed. In EQlive and EQ2 FV would still be the daughter of a Queen and her side interest. __________________ 41 Brigand 18 Outfitter 45 Shadow Knight 30 Armorer 25 Defiler 11 Scholar

07-25-2006, 07:02 AM	#16
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	It can be if the mother was never mentioned before EQ2 happened...

07-25-2006, 08:12 AM	#17
Pudaan General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 37	i dont care about al`kabor, magic gnomes can do a lot of things. __________________

07-25-2006, 09:08 AM	#18
Punkbr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 55	Cusashorn wrote: It can be if the mother was never mentioned before EQ2 happened... Actually, it's more like 'It can be if the EQ2 Devs decide that the story has no bearing in EQ2.' If the devs decide that her story is the same as in EQ1, then that's what happened. They could also decide that she's the daughter of a dragon in human form and a mutated Drake on steroids :p __________________

07-25-2006, 09:37 AM	#19
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Punkbrad wrote: Cusashorn wrote: It can be if the mother was never mentioned before EQ2 happened... Actually, it's more like 'It can be if the EQ2 Devs decide that the story has no bearing in EQ2.' If the devs decide that her story is the same as in EQ1, then that's what happened. They could also decide that she's the daughter of a dragon in human form and a mutated Drake on steroids :p Forgive me, but that whole "It's whatever the EQ2 Devs decide" trump card really holds no arguative power over me anymore.

07-25-2006, 12:46 PM	#20
Punkbr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 55	If only I was trying to argue. I was just pointing out a fact: If the EQ2 Devs decide it's fact, it's fact. Until then, it's whatever you want to believe. __________________

07-25-2006, 04:52 PM	#21
firemonkey5 Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 110	Since FV's birth occured before LoY then how ever FV was concieved will have bearing in EQ2. That is why EQ2 ignores her. __________________ 41 Brigand 18 Outfitter 45 Shadow Knight 30 Armorer 25 Defiler 11 Scholar

07-25-2006, 10:42 PM	#22
KniteShayd Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,190	Just agreeing, dropin info on the ones that dont kno.

07-26-2006, 01:34 AM	#23
iceriven2 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 632	this seems to bring up the same point as other threads here....what ever happened or what ever we foundn out after PoP has no bearrings on eq2 even if the event we found out after the expansion took place before PoP. In thoery yes this works in favor for the Devs and eq2 lore but it also puts a lot in question if something like FV birth parents were changed. All the lore about Zeb and the split in the time line would be completely false. In other words if the Devs do decide to change something like that the actual split between eq1 and eq2's timeline would be the event that was changed, since it took place before PoP. See how much of a mess that can become lore wise by just saying that since the information was discovered after PoP, but took place years maybe hundrends of years before that event is still not considered eq2 cannon. basically don't discredit iformation like whats being dicussed here just b/c we found after PoP...to make sense with all that lore about zeb guess what it has to have accurred or the split took place before PoP and the timeline that eq2 did split from was not eq1 timeline....see how messy it is getting :p

07-26-2006, 04:46 PM	#24
Ordate Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 308	You kind of have to ignore what has happened in EQ1 after PoP. Mayong becoming a god though it happened after pop, in eq1 has ramifications in the past. Hence you can visit the Elddar Forest there. If you try and combine both time lines at this point, you could end up going in circles for well eternity. While the devs might borrow some post PoP ideas I think making the vast majority of our assumptions post-PoP free would be the smart way to go. __________________

07-26-2006, 10:25 PM	#25
firemonkey5 Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 110	But if the event happened prior to PoP and wasn't explained until after makes the explanation invalid to us? I strongly disagree. __________________ 41 Brigand 18 Outfitter 45 Shadow Knight 30 Armorer 25 Defiler 11 Scholar

07-26-2006, 10:43 PM	#26
Ordate Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 308	It does though. What is the current idea of why Elddar was destroyed for EQ2? Either a troll, Sol Ro, or the upheaval of the serpentine mountains. Or some combination of the above. Now in EQLive you have the Mayong of Mistmoore the god adding to that story that really isn't reflected into the lore to date of EQ2. They would have to go back and rewrite previous lore that has been put into EQ2 or come up with a patch over that would seem most likely somewhat artificial. Message Edited by Ordate on 07-26-2006 11:45 AM __________________