The Nine Prophets - Page 6

Jaale · 07-17-2006, 05:15 PM

So the question is... what does Zeb have to hide?

and has anyone spoken to Zeb since the other profits have appeared?

Is he angry of everything that has happened to him and decided to take a hand in what is going on.. maybe apathy has left the building and Zeb is stepping up to the plate.

After reading about the Quest for this I came across the actuall conversation..

thanks to Pinski..

A few things though.. at no point does he say that all the nine are profits.. nor does he say that he is not one of them...

Also of interest is that he says that he is gonig to be taking a more active role this time and that he will not fall into the same trap that he did last time. (in bold.)

I think that the Gods have awoken something in Zeb that they may wish that they had not.

Pinski wrote:

Zhen Mei/a says to you,"I am pleased to see you again, Calaglin. I had not expected events to unfold quite so quickly."

You say, "Hail, Zhen Mei"

You say to Zhen Mei,"Huh? What events? Nothing happened. Chel'Drak spouted something that had no meaning at all."

Zhen Mei/a says to you,"No meaning? I think perhaps you do not comprehend what has happened here."

You say to Zhen Mei,"No, I guess you're right. What was Chel'Drak talking about?"

Zhen Mei/a says to you,"Chel'Drak was a guardian of something very important. Something which I could not remember until now."

You say to Zhen Mei,"And that would be?"

Zhen Mei/a says to you,"A portion of my essence. Long ago, I placed this within Chel'Drak's care. Though the citizens of Tanaan foolishly tried to gain the knowledge I entrusted to Chel'Drak, at the time he was the guardian of nothing."

You say to Zebuxoruk,"I don't understand."

Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"Long before the gods left Norrath, I had forseen the exodus. At that time, I returned to Chel'Drak, and entrusted a portion of my essence to him. Since then, he has guarded it with greater patience than I could have hoped."

You say to Zebuxoruk,"And you had me kill him for his service?"

Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"Do not be melodramatic. Chel'Drak has been released from his service on Norrath, this is true. However, he will forever retain a place of exultation within my realm. I shall leave a portion of his spirit for others to discover the secrets which you have."

You say to Zebuxoruk,"But then why the duplicity? Why tell the Tanaanites that he possessed knowledge?"

Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"It was a test. One which they failed. Though I did not foresee the consequences of their failure, one must understand that the fate they endured was brought on by their own lust for the forbidden."

You say to Zebuxoruk,"That seems unusually cruel."

Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"This is true. Long ago, I had not the wisdom to understand the full ramifications of my actions. Upon me was thrust the full knowledge of the planes, their workings, and the gods. I was not yet wise."

You say to Zebuxoruk,"And you think you are now?"

Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"I can only hope that what I do now is the right thing for this world. Only time will tell. Once, I paid for my indiscretion. Now I will atone for that. The world will once again be imbued with the attention of the gods."

You say to Zebuxoruk,"When? When will this occur?"

Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"It will take time. It will not be a fast process. The nine will rise again to take their place at the end. Others will no doubt follow."

You say to Zebuxoruk,"Wait, what nine? Who are you talking about? What end?"

Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"All will be explained in time. That day is a long way off. Perhaps so long that only several generations of your line down the river will see or understand."

You say to Zebuxoruk,"I see. But the nine will come?"

Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"I will ensure it. The proper events have been set in motion. Until then, I shall remain here. I challenge you to go out into the world and spread the word of the return. Belief will hasten their formation."

You say to Zebuxoruk,"I will do my part, and eagerly await this return."

Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"Be wary of your treatment of the gods, for they have become wary of their followers and the followers of others. Seek them for whatever you wish, but be warned - they will not lightly take unfavorable actions against their person."

You say to Zhen Mei,"I will remember this."

And that's all Zebuxoruk/Zhen Mei(same person) says when finishing the quest. If you want I can post the stuff everybody else says as well.

One last Edit: Zeb is the first profit really as he is the first to tell that the gods are returning... (if you want to look at it that way.)

Message Edited by Jaale on 07-17-2006 02:34 PM

Cyanbane · 07-17-2006, 05:26 PM

I have been trying to gather up info on "the Nine" for our wiki, if anyone has any info they would like to add to any of the entries feel free. I am also looking for 3 more (well 4 counting the elusive 9th prophet) of their names, and dialog for all of them if anyone has feel free to either post on this thread or edit the wiki with it.The Prophet Names I need are:

3. Rallos Zek's representative (Rallos Zek) - Zek

4. Innoruuk's representative (Innoruuk) - Freeport

5. Cazic Thule's representative (Cazic Thule) - Cazic Thule

8. Brell Serilis's representative (Brell Serilis)- Blackburrow

Thanks

-Cyan

Renita_Serafim · 07-17-2006, 05:27 PM

No.

In the Age of Turmoil, Zebuxoruk wanted to spread word of the Divine Language to allow all life to be equal, the language granting one the power to become a god.

Now, in the Age of Destiny, Zebuxoruk says that he follows the Pantheon's way of thinking that states that mortals have to stay mortals in order to worship the gods. Now, Zebuxoruk will inevitably refuse to teach the Divine Language like he wanted to in the past.

Message Edited by Astralmage on 07-17-2006 06:29 AM

Wrapye · 07-17-2006, 06:38 PM

Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"I will ensure it. The proper events have been set in motion. Until then, I shall remain here. I challenge you to go out into the world and spread the word of the return. Belief will hasten their formation."

You say to Zebuxoruk,"I will do my part, and eagerly await this return."

Are we the ninth?

Message Edited by sacremon on 07-17-2006 10:39 AM

VizP · 07-17-2006, 07:08 PM

Yes but your character does not respresent a missing deity from the current list. Quote:'Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"It will take time. It will not be a fast process. The nine will rise again to take their place at the end. Others will no doubt follow.'----So - the NINE will rise again. But eight gods have been uncovered and the ninth is missing. He himself is not he ninth because clearly he is the facilitator of 'their' rise again. So whoever the last prophet is, this prophet is connected to the ninth deity. Its not simply a case of a missing prophet but also a case of the ninth deity he or she needs to be connected to. After all, it would be fine if we knew there were nine prophets but we had no idea there were also nine gods - in that case ones character or even Zeb could be the ninth prophet. Except Zeb tells you there are Nine deities that will rise first and since there are nine prophets....Honestly this seems to be like Bristlebane through and through. After all when it came down to placing his prophet, it would have been the one that the devs would have been most amused by and the one that would be in the truly obscure of places if anywhere at all - just another practical joke. And I dont think it would have been a big deal that a prophet of Bristlebane can't actually get to the followers that need to be notified of his imminent arrival, after all when it comse to the ultimate Jester, everything has to be a grand show doesnt it?Karana would seem more important but he would not have remained missing this long.. in fact you would have expected his prophet to be standing on the cliff off some part of Thunder Steppes i.e. the Karanas themselves full in view staring up at the clouds.

Sedden · 07-17-2006, 07:37 PM

Astralmage wrote:

No.

In the Age of Turmoil, Zebuxoruk wanted to spread word of the Divine Language to allow all life to be equal, the language granting one the power to become a god.

Now, in the Age of Destiny, Zebuxoruk says that he follows the Pantheon's way of thinking that states that mortals have to stay mortals in order to worship the gods. Now, Zebuxoruk will inevitably refuse to teach the Divine Language like he wanted to in the past.

Message Edited by Astralmage on 07-17-2006 06:29 AM

Seems to me Zebuxoruk finally understand. For what is a god, if no one longer believes in or woriships them. And more onto the old saying, "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". The mortals lust for power would no doubt bring forth chaos and destruction upon Norrath which is what happenned.

I don't think Zebuxoruk will be a true "god" more of a go between, between the mortals and the gods, to me Zeb is trying to get the gods to return to undo the wrongs he did when he try to teach the divine language,which in turn(knowing the mortals lust for knowledge and power), would come after Zeb in the Plane of Time to free him which in turn brought upon the gods wrath.

Message Edited by Sedden on 07-17-2006 08:41 AM

Eriol · 07-17-2006, 08:27 PM

VizP wrote:Karana would seem more important but he would not have remained missing this long.. in fact you would have expected his prophet to be standing on the cliff off some part of Thunder Steppes i.e. the Karanas themselves full in view staring up at the clouds.

IMO Karana's representative would be within a tempest somewhere. That seems the most appropriate to me, which would make them appear in the Sinking Sands, but really, anything is possible. I guess I just HOPE it's Karana.But your points about bristlebane are well taken. I wouldn't put it past the devs to make him/her invisible AND stealthed, in one of the most inaccessable areas anywhere that nobody ever really goes to (some obscure instance somewhere) JUST to make it annoying and a "joke".

Wilin · 07-17-2006, 08:38 PM

It was asked by someone else earlier but has anyone gone back to talk to the npc sitting on the TS shore (I think by the rumbler caves). He appeared to be an unkempt druid who was looking out over the water for something to happen.

Lonissa · 07-17-2006, 09:02 PM

Eriol wrote:
VizP wrote:Karana would seem more important but he would not have remained missing this long.. in fact you would have expected his prophet to be standing on the cliff off some part of Thunder Steppes i.e. the Karanas themselves full in view staring up at the clouds.
IMO Karana's representative would be within a tempest somewhere. That seems the most appropriate to me, which would make them appear in the Sinking Sands, but really, anything is possible. I guess I just HOPE it's Karana.But your points about bristlebane are well taken. I wouldn't put it past the devs to make him/her invisible AND stealthed, in one of the most inaccessable areas anywhere that nobody ever really goes to (some obscure instance somewhere) JUST to make it annoying and a "joke".

Even if they are invised and stealthed, they would show up in track right? I keep thinking of some of those locations that are only accessible by jumping - like in QH. Maybe take a scout around all these zones and see if new names show up?

Fizwi · 07-17-2006, 09:07 PM

Wilin wrote:It was asked by someone else earlier but has anyone gone back to talk to the npc sitting on the TS shore (I think by the rumbler caves). He appeared to be an unkempt druid who was looking out over the water for something to happen.

Glendarion the Unkempt. He's still there, sitting, staring, not responding to hails...

Vollux · 07-17-2006, 09:10 PM

Cyan- I posted the Innoruuk's Prophets dialog on page 6 of the thread her name is Xilania Nevagon.

Cyanbane · 07-17-2006, 09:29 PM

Vollux wrote:
Cyan- I posted the Innoruuk's Prophets dialog on page 6 of the thread her name is Xilania Nevagon.

Awesome, got it and credited you.Xilania NevagonAnyone got any others or links to some elsewhere? I am going to try to run around and get screens tonight. I have a feeling the conversations will change over the next few months, hopefully we can have record of them here.

Pins · 07-17-2006, 09:34 PM

Emaleth2000 wrote:
Eriol wrote:
VizP wrote:Karana would seem more important but he would not have remained missing this long.. in fact you would have expected his prophet to be standing on the cliff off some part of Thunder Steppes i.e. the Karanas themselves full in view staring up at the clouds.
IMO Karana's representative would be within a tempest somewhere. That seems the most appropriate to me, which would make them appear in the Sinking Sands, but really, anything is possible. I guess I just HOPE it's Karana.But your points about bristlebane are well taken. I wouldn't put it past the devs to make him/her invisible AND stealthed, in one of the most inaccessable areas anywhere that nobody ever really goes to (some obscure instance somewhere) JUST to make it annoying and a "joke".
Even if they are invised and stealthed, they would show up in track right? I keep thinking of some of those locations that are only accessible by jumping - like in QH. Maybe take a scout around all these zones and see if new names show up?

They will show up on track only if you can see invis or stealth respectively.

Jigokusens · 07-17-2006, 11:04 PM

You know I don't like this concept but what if.....

Karana went and got himself captured again so there's no prophet hanging about. :smileyvery-happy:

gra · 07-17-2006, 11:16 PM

Jigokusensei wrote:

You know I don't like this concept but what if.....

Karana went and got himself captured again so there's no prophet hanging about. :smileyvery-happy:

I still stand by the idea that the rains in FP have something to do with Karana and that his prophet will be found there (perhaps bound to the will of the Overlord somehow)There has to be a reason that the Overlord "called" all of the rains to the common lands.

Wrapye · 07-18-2006, 12:15 AM

gray_ wrote:
Jigokusensei wrote:

You know I don't like this concept but what if.....

Karana went and got himself captured again so there's no prophet hanging about. :smileyvery-happy:
I still stand by the idea that the rains in FP have something to do with Karana and that his prophet will be found there (perhaps bound to the will of the Overlord somehow)There has to be a reason that the Overlord "called" all of the rains to the common lands.

Lucan did nothing other than make a speech, then tell the Foci to make it rain. The Foci was the one who got the magic rolling.

VizP · 07-18-2006, 12:42 AM

Yes if I was a betting man, that piece of lore was necessary because of an ingame change they wanted to make. Simply - Commonlands was terribly dreary and the devs felt that perhaps they needed to allow some sunlight into these areas. The lore was created of Lucan's grand speech and then of course the Foci creating rain - for Lucan a dreamatic finale to his speech and a show of his dominance over all the land one can see from Freeport. For SOE the ability to have players at least see the sun from the commonlands.I mean in terms of Karana, that speech was 'long' before any likely concept was even in place of a return of the gods in a future expansion. So that whole Lucan rain thing is likely nothing to do with Karana at all in any way shape or form...

Nainitsuj · 07-18-2006, 12:51 AM

I was running around Nek forest and thought "Hey! I wonder if the Keeper of Secrets is spouting anything new"

Keeper of Secrets says to you "When the one who walked from the water is made whole, the heralds of the nine shall arise. Knowledge is key. That is all."

Lady Dee · 07-18-2006, 02:11 AM

Alrighty here we go the 9th Prohet is for Karana:

Source Info:

http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/lore.vm?section=chapter_01

Here is where the 9 Gods all talk about the fate that awaits Norath and their plans to leave the mortals

Also again:

http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/lore.vm?section=chapter_05

More talk about the Avatar of Thunder

It make NO sense for them to introduce more gods into the lore when they already have established the 9 Gods who started the EQ2 lore timeline.

So...where would the Phopet of Thunder be....Thundering Stepps, or Commondlands, or perhaps inbetween....isnt the newbie isle between the TS and CL on map? If so mabye the prophet of Karana is there.

Just my 2cents

Slixia (GuK)

Message Edited by Lady Dee on 07-17-2006 03:12 PM

Mirander_1 · 07-18-2006, 03:04 AM

well, both TS and CL have been searched, for that matter all of Karan and D'lere have been searched. And I strongly doubt the last prophet is on IoR, I have the feeling that these NPCs will be the ones we go to join one of the faiths when Faydwer comes out, so they would need to be in a place that can be reached

Dogm · 07-18-2006, 03:10 AM

Nice try, but in your first link it talks about more then 9 gods. Erollisi Marr , Fennin Ro, Xegony, Bristlebane, and the Tribunal are all also mentioned.

Now it does show that Karana, Quellious, and Tunare do have some sort of alliance, so it is possible that Karana is the last god, but no solid proof.

firemonkey5 · 07-18-2006, 04:49 AM

Nainitsuj wrote:

I was running around Nek forest and thought "Hey! I wonder if the Keeper of Secrets is spouting anything new"

Keeper of Secrets says to you "When the one who walked from the water is made whole, the heralds of the nine shall arise. Knowledge is key. That is all."

Whats that refer to?

Vollux · 07-18-2006, 04:59 AM

Zebuxoruk

see this thread for further info.

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=14595

snowfleck · 07-18-2006, 05:14 AM

Well, I get the 'no expansions' rule, and it's a sound one, but it would make a kind of sense for the missing rep to be on Faydwer...

VizP · 07-18-2006, 05:43 AM

And equally annoying for the patch notes to indicate there are 'nine' prophets of which eight are right there in the game but one is sitting in an expansion 6 months away? Hmm... nah SMILEY

Cusashorn · 07-18-2006, 06:23 AM

Vollux wrote:

Zebuxoruk

see this thread for further info.

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=14595

Actually that just proves even further that he's not the 9th god.

Jaale · 07-18-2006, 11:38 AM

Cusashorn wrote:

Vollux wrote:

Zebuxoruk

see this thread for further info.

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=14595

Actually that just proves even further that he's not the 9th god.

Actually no it doesn't, the writing is very none committal and vague. There is nothing that states that because he is the one that told us about it that he can't be the first Profit (he is, I believe) and the first of the nine (which he also is, again my belief) Just because he said about the rising of the nine does not mean that he is not one of the nine.

Sorry I would need more solid proof that he is not other than just "he said it so it can't be him" the idea that it has all been old world before doesn't hold either, if he is the starter and I believe that he is then he can be anywhere and move into the old world before Faydwer comes live. He is he god of Knowledge... he is perfect for the Wizzy classes out there. The more I look at it the more I think that he is the first herald of the return of the gods the first of the nine being himself. (I'll not make any hat eating comments just yet though. SMILEY )

troodon · 07-18-2006, 12:00 PM

Prophet

Dragonreal · 07-18-2006, 04:13 PM

Jaale wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

Vollux wrote:

Zebuxoruk

see this thread for further info.

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=14595

Actually that just proves even further that he's not the 9th god.

Actually no it doesn't, the writing is very none committal and vague. There is nothing that states that because he is the one that told us about it that he can't be the first Profit (he is, I believe) and the first of the nine (which he also is, again my belief) Just because he said about the rising of the nine does not mean that he is not one of the nine.

Sorry I would need more solid proof that he is not other than just "he said it so it can't be him" the idea that it has all been old world before doesn't hold either, if he is the starter and I believe that he is then he can be anywhere and move into the old world before Faydwer comes live. He is he god of Knowledge... he is perfect for the Wizzy classes out there. The more I look at it the more I think that he is the first herald of the return of the gods the first of the nine being himself. (I'll not make any hat eating comments just yet though. )

so if your only real reason to think he's the final god is that he'd be a perfect god for wizzys to follow, what do you propose the fp druids follow? we can't follow tunare since they made her good aligned and not neutral... so imo the reasoning that it should be him just because he'd be perfect for wizzys doesn't hold much water

Jaale · 07-18-2006, 04:41 PM

Dragonrealms wrote:

Jaale wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

Vollux wrote:

Zebuxoruk

see this thread for further info.

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=14595

Actually that just proves even further that he's not the 9th god.

Actually no it doesn't, the writing is very none committal and vague. There is nothing that states that because he is the one that told us about it that he can't be the first Profit (he is, I believe) and the first of the nine (which he also is, again my belief) Just because he said about the rising of the nine does not mean that he is not one of the nine.

Sorry I would need more solid proof that he is not other than just "he said it so it can't be him" the idea that it has all been old world before doesn't hold either, if he is the starter and I believe that he is then he can be anywhere and move into the old world before Faydwer comes live. He is he god of Knowledge... he is perfect for the Wizzy classes out there. The more I look at it the more I think that he is the first herald of the return of the gods the first of the nine being himself. (I'll not make any hat eating comments just yet though. )

so if your only real reason to think he's the final god is that he'd be a perfect god for wizzys to follow, what do you propose the fp druids follow? we can't follow tunare since they made her good aligned and not neutral... so imo the reasoning that it should be him just because he'd be perfect for wizzys doesn't hold much water

Hmm talk about being too literal.. I meant the Mage classes in general rather than just Wizards.... (ergo wizzy classes not just wizards)

It wasn't my only reason for thinking that Zeb could be of the nine, as I'm sure that if you read all of my reasoning that it would hold "water"..

So why couldn't FP Druids follow Tunare? (because she is good) and why even bring it up as a counter to my argument? that sounds more like a gripe for the dev's rather than with my argument in it's self. If you want your Druid to follow Tunare then betray. if that doesn't fit then speak to the Dev's nicely and see if they will make it so that you can worship Tunare in an underground fasion, I'm sorry but I really can't help you there. I'm sure that there are people on the Q side who are upset that they can't worship thier god as well.

If Zeb is the last God or of the nine to appear then he would be neutral meaning both sides could choose him which is in standing with wanting to give knowledge to everyone.

07-17-2006, 05:15 PM	#151
Jaale Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wales Posts: 185	So the question is... what does Zeb have to hide? and has anyone spoken to Zeb since the other profits have appeared? Is he angry of everything that has happened to him and decided to take a hand in what is going on.. maybe apathy has left the building and Zeb is stepping up to the plate. After reading about the Quest for this I came across the actuall conversation.. thanks to Pinski.. A few things though.. at no point does he say that all the nine are profits.. nor does he say that he is not one of them... Also of interest is that he says that he is gonig to be taking a more active role this time and that he will not fall into the same trap that he did last time. (in bold.) I think that the Gods have awoken something in Zeb that they may wish that they had not. Pinski wrote: Zhen Mei/a says to you,"I am pleased to see you again, Calaglin. I had not expected events to unfold quite so quickly." You say, "Hail, Zhen Mei" You say to Zhen Mei,"Huh? What events? Nothing happened. Chel'Drak spouted something that had no meaning at all." Zhen Mei/a says to you,"No meaning? I think perhaps you do not comprehend what has happened here." You say to Zhen Mei,"No, I guess you're right. What was Chel'Drak talking about?" Zhen Mei/a says to you,"Chel'Drak was a guardian of something very important. Something which I could not remember until now." You say to Zhen Mei,"And that would be?" Zhen Mei/a says to you,"A portion of my essence. Long ago, I placed this within Chel'Drak's care. Though the citizens of Tanaan foolishly tried to gain the knowledge I entrusted to Chel'Drak, at the time he was the guardian of nothing." You say to Zebuxoruk,"I don't understand." Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"Long before the gods left Norrath, I had forseen the exodus. At that time, I returned to Chel'Drak, and entrusted a portion of my essence to him. Since then, he has guarded it with greater patience than I could have hoped." You say to Zebuxoruk,"And you had me kill him for his service?" Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"Do not be melodramatic. Chel'Drak has been released from his service on Norrath, this is true. However, he will forever retain a place of exultation within my realm. I shall leave a portion of his spirit for others to discover the secrets which you have." You say to Zebuxoruk,"But then why the duplicity? Why tell the Tanaanites that he possessed knowledge?" Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"It was a test. One which they failed. Though I did not foresee the consequences of their failure, one must understand that the fate they endured was brought on by their own lust for the forbidden." You say to Zebuxoruk,"That seems unusually cruel." Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"This is true. Long ago, I had not the wisdom to understand the full ramifications of my actions. Upon me was thrust the full knowledge of the planes, their workings, and the gods. I was not yet wise." You say to Zebuxoruk,"And you think you are now?" Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"I can only hope that what I do now is the right thing for this world. Only time will tell. Once, I paid for my indiscretion. Now I will atone for that. The world will once again be imbued with the attention of the gods." You say to Zebuxoruk,"When? When will this occur?" Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"It will take time. It will not be a fast process. The nine will rise again to take their place at the end. Others will no doubt follow." You say to Zebuxoruk,"Wait, what nine? Who are you talking about? What end?" Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"All will be explained in time. That day is a long way off. Perhaps so long that only several generations of your line down the river will see or understand." You say to Zebuxoruk,"I see. But the nine will come?" Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"I will ensure it. The proper events have been set in motion. Until then, I shall remain here. I challenge you to go out into the world and spread the word of the return. Belief will hasten their formation." You say to Zebuxoruk,"I will do my part, and eagerly await this return." Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"Be wary of your treatment of the gods, for they have become wary of their followers and the followers of others. Seek them for whatever you wish, but be warned - they will not lightly take unfavorable actions against their person." You say to Zhen Mei,"I will remember this." And that's all Zebuxoruk/Zhen Mei(same person) says when finishing the quest. If you want I can post the stuff everybody else says as well. One last Edit: Zeb is the first profit really as he is the first to tell that the gods are returning... (if you want to look at it that way.) Message Edited by Jaale on 07-17-2006 02:34 PM

07-17-2006, 05:26 PM	#152
Cyanbane Guildm8s.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 260	I have been trying to gather up info on "the Nine" for our wiki, if anyone has any info they would like to add to any of the entries feel free. I am also looking for 3 more (well 4 counting the elusive 9th prophet) of their names, and dialog for all of them if anyone has feel free to either post on this thread or edit the wiki with it.The Prophet Names I need are: 3. Rallos Zek's representative (Rallos Zek) - Zek 4. Innoruuk's representative (Innoruuk) - Freeport 5. Cazic Thule's representative (Cazic Thule) - Cazic Thule 8. Brell Serilis's representative (Brell Serilis)- Blackburrow Thanks -Cyan __________________ Come discuss EQ2 at GuildM8s (formerly EQ2-Daily)!

07-17-2006, 06:38 PM	#154
Wrapye Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 912	Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"I will ensure it. The proper events have been set in motion. Until then, I shall remain here. I challenge you to go out into the world and spread the word of the return. Belief will hasten their formation." You say to Zebuxoruk,"I will do my part, and eagerly await this return." Are we the ninth? Message Edited by sacremon on 07-17-2006 10:39 AM __________________

07-17-2006, 07:08 PM	#155
VizP Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 558	Yes but your character does not respresent a missing deity from the current list. Quote:'Zebuxoruk/a says to you,"It will take time. It will not be a fast process. The nine will rise again to take their place at the end. Others will no doubt follow.'----So - the NINE will rise again. But eight gods have been uncovered and the ninth is missing. He himself is not he ninth because clearly he is the facilitator of 'their' rise again. So whoever the last prophet is, this prophet is connected to the ninth deity. Its not simply a case of a missing prophet but also a case of the ninth deity he or she needs to be connected to. After all, it would be fine if we knew there were nine prophets but we had no idea there were also nine gods - in that case ones character or even Zeb could be the ninth prophet. Except Zeb tells you there are Nine deities that will rise first and since there are nine prophets....Honestly this seems to be like Bristlebane through and through. After all when it came down to placing his prophet, it would have been the one that the devs would have been most amused by and the one that would be in the truly obscure of places if anywhere at all - just another practical joke. And I dont think it would have been a big deal that a prophet of Bristlebane can't actually get to the followers that need to be notified of his imminent arrival, after all when it comse to the ultimate Jester, everything has to be a grand show doesnt it?Karana would seem more important but he would not have remained missing this long.. in fact you would have expected his prophet to be standing on the cliff off some part of Thunder Steppes i.e. the Karanas themselves full in view staring up at the clouds. __________________ The Fable of the Soulmover - Silthian's Journal

07-17-2006, 07:37 PM	#156
Sedden Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 77	Astralmage wrote: No. In the Age of Turmoil, Zebuxoruk wanted to spread word of the Divine Language to allow all life to be equal, the language granting one the power to become a god. Now, in the Age of Destiny, Zebuxoruk says that he follows the Pantheon's way of thinking that states that mortals have to stay mortals in order to worship the gods. Now, Zebuxoruk will inevitably refuse to teach the Divine Language like he wanted to in the past. Message Edited by Astralmage on 07-17-2006 06:29 AM Seems to me Zebuxoruk finally understand. For what is a god, if no one longer believes in or woriships them. And more onto the old saying, "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". The mortals lust for power would no doubt bring forth chaos and destruction upon Norrath which is what happenned. I don't think Zebuxoruk will be a true "god" more of a go between, between the mortals and the gods, to me Zeb is trying to get the gods to return to undo the wrongs he did when he try to teach the divine language,which in turn(knowing the mortals lust for knowledge and power), would come after Zeb in the Plane of Time to free him which in turn brought upon the gods wrath. Message Edited by Sedden on 07-17-2006 08:41 AM

07-17-2006, 05:27 PM	#153
Renita_Serafim Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 760	No. In the Age of Turmoil, Zebuxoruk wanted to spread word of the Divine Language to allow all life to be equal, the language granting one the power to become a god. Now, in the Age of Destiny, Zebuxoruk says that he follows the Pantheon's way of thinking that states that mortals have to stay mortals in order to worship the gods. Now, Zebuxoruk will inevitably refuse to teach the Divine Language like he wanted to in the past. Message Edited by Astralmage on 07-17-2006 06:29 AM

07-17-2006, 08:27 PM	#157
Eriol Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,125	VizP wrote:Karana would seem more important but he would not have remained missing this long.. in fact you would have expected his prophet to be standing on the cliff off some part of Thunder Steppes i.e. the Karanas themselves full in view staring up at the clouds. IMO Karana's representative would be within a tempest somewhere. That seems the most appropriate to me, which would make them appear in the Sinking Sands, but really, anything is possible. I guess I just HOPE it's Karana.But your points about bristlebane are well taken. I wouldn't put it past the devs to make him/her invisible AND stealthed, in one of the most inaccessable areas anywhere that nobody ever really goes to (some obscure instance somewhere) JUST to make it annoying and a "joke". __________________ Eriol Ancalagon A Summoner's Fall into Darkness

07-17-2006, 08:38 PM	#158
Wilin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,151	It was asked by someone else earlier but has anyone gone back to talk to the npc sitting on the TS shore (I think by the rumbler caves). He appeared to be an unkempt druid who was looking out over the water for something to happen. __________________

07-17-2006, 09:02 PM	#159
Lonissa Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Socialist Republic of Canuckistan Posts: 69	Eriol wrote: VizP wrote:Karana would seem more important but he would not have remained missing this long.. in fact you would have expected his prophet to be standing on the cliff off some part of Thunder Steppes i.e. the Karanas themselves full in view staring up at the clouds. IMO Karana's representative would be within a tempest somewhere. That seems the most appropriate to me, which would make them appear in the Sinking Sands, but really, anything is possible. I guess I just HOPE it's Karana.But your points about bristlebane are well taken. I wouldn't put it past the devs to make him/her invisible AND stealthed, in one of the most inaccessable areas anywhere that nobody ever really goes to (some obscure instance somewhere) JUST to make it annoying and a "joke". Even if they are invised and stealthed, they would show up in track right? I keep thinking of some of those locations that are only accessible by jumping - like in QH. Maybe take a scout around all these zones and see if new names show up?

07-17-2006, 09:07 PM	#160
Fizwi General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 275	Wilin wrote:It was asked by someone else earlier but has anyone gone back to talk to the npc sitting on the TS shore (I think by the rumbler caves). He appeared to be an unkempt druid who was looking out over the water for something to happen. Glendarion the Unkempt. He's still there, sitting, staring, not responding to hails... __________________

07-17-2006, 09:10 PM	#161
Vollux Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	Cyan- I posted the Innoruuk's Prophets dialog on page 6 of the thread her name is Xilania Nevagon.

07-17-2006, 09:29 PM	#162
Cyanbane Guildm8s.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 260	Vollux wrote: Cyan- I posted the Innoruuk's Prophets dialog on page 6 of the thread her name is Xilania Nevagon. Awesome, got it and credited you.Xilania NevagonAnyone got any others or links to some elsewhere? I am going to try to run around and get screens tonight. I have a feeling the conversations will change over the next few months, hopefully we can have record of them here. __________________ Come discuss EQ2 at GuildM8s (formerly EQ2-Daily)!

07-17-2006, 09:34 PM	#163
Pins General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,040	Emaleth2000 wrote: Eriol wrote: VizP wrote:Karana would seem more important but he would not have remained missing this long.. in fact you would have expected his prophet to be standing on the cliff off some part of Thunder Steppes i.e. the Karanas themselves full in view staring up at the clouds. IMO Karana's representative would be within a tempest somewhere. That seems the most appropriate to me, which would make them appear in the Sinking Sands, but really, anything is possible. I guess I just HOPE it's Karana.But your points about bristlebane are well taken. I wouldn't put it past the devs to make him/her invisible AND stealthed, in one of the most inaccessable areas anywhere that nobody ever really goes to (some obscure instance somewhere) JUST to make it annoying and a "joke". Even if they are invised and stealthed, they would show up in track right? I keep thinking of some of those locations that are only accessible by jumping - like in QH. Maybe take a scout around all these zones and see if new names show up? They will show up on track only if you can see invis or stealth respectively. __________________ Calaglin, Former Illusionist/Guild Leader of Dissolution on Nektulos Calaglin, Former Illusionist/Guild Leader of Confirmed on Unrest

07-17-2006, 11:04 PM	#164
Jigokusens Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 31	You know I don't like this concept but what if..... Karana went and got himself captured again so there's no prophet hanging about. :smileyvery-happy:

07-17-2006, 11:16 PM	#165
gra General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Jigokusensei wrote: You know I don't like this concept but what if..... Karana went and got himself captured again so there's no prophet hanging about. :smileyvery-happy: I still stand by the idea that the rains in FP have something to do with Karana and that his prophet will be found there (perhaps bound to the will of the Overlord somehow)There has to be a reason that the Overlord "called" all of the rains to the common lands.

07-18-2006, 12:15 AM	#166
Wrapye Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 912	gray_ wrote: Jigokusensei wrote: You know I don't like this concept but what if..... Karana went and got himself captured again so there's no prophet hanging about. :smileyvery-happy: I still stand by the idea that the rains in FP have something to do with Karana and that his prophet will be found there (perhaps bound to the will of the Overlord somehow)There has to be a reason that the Overlord "called" all of the rains to the common lands. Lucan did nothing other than make a speech, then tell the Foci to make it rain. The Foci was the one who got the magic rolling. __________________

07-18-2006, 12:42 AM	#167
VizP Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 558	Yes if I was a betting man, that piece of lore was necessary because of an ingame change they wanted to make. Simply - Commonlands was terribly dreary and the devs felt that perhaps they needed to allow some sunlight into these areas. The lore was created of Lucan's grand speech and then of course the Foci creating rain - for Lucan a dreamatic finale to his speech and a show of his dominance over all the land one can see from Freeport. For SOE the ability to have players at least see the sun from the commonlands.I mean in terms of Karana, that speech was 'long' before any likely concept was even in place of a return of the gods in a future expansion. So that whole Lucan rain thing is likely nothing to do with Karana at all in any way shape or form... __________________ The Fable of the Soulmover - Silthian's Journal

07-18-2006, 12:51 AM	#168
Nainitsuj Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Emerald Server Posts: 525	I was running around Nek forest and thought "Hey! I wonder if the Keeper of Secrets is spouting anything new" Keeper of Secrets says to you "When the one who walked from the water is made whole, the heralds of the nine shall arise. Knowledge is key. That is all."

07-18-2006, 02:11 AM	#169
Lady Dee Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 61	Alrighty here we go the 9th Prohet is for Karana: Source Info: http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/lore.vm?section=chapter_01 Here is where the 9 Gods all talk about the fate that awaits Norath and their plans to leave the mortals Also again: http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/lore.vm?section=chapter_05 More talk about the Avatar of Thunder It make NO sense for them to introduce more gods into the lore when they already have established the 9 Gods who started the EQ2 lore timeline. So...where would the Phopet of Thunder be....Thundering Stepps, or Commondlands, or perhaps inbetween....isnt the newbie isle between the TS and CL on map? If so mabye the prophet of Karana is there. Just my 2cents Slixia (GuK) Message Edited by Lady Dee on 07-17-2006 03:12 PM

07-18-2006, 03:04 AM	#170
Mirander_1 Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,229	well, both TS and CL have been searched, for that matter all of Karan and D'lere have been searched. And I strongly doubt the last prophet is on IoR, I have the feeling that these NPCs will be the ones we go to join one of the faiths when Faydwer comes out, so they would need to be in a place that can be reached __________________ Mirander 90 Wizard Unrest server

07-18-2006, 03:10 AM	#171
Dogm General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 239	Nice try, but in your first link it talks about more then 9 gods. Erollisi Marr , Fennin Ro, Xegony, Bristlebane, and the Tribunal are all also mentioned. Now it does show that Karana, Quellious, and Tunare do have some sort of alliance, so it is possible that Karana is the last god, but no solid proof. __________________

07-18-2006, 04:49 AM	#172
firemonkey5 Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 110	Nainitsuj wrote: I was running around Nek forest and thought "Hey! I wonder if the Keeper of Secrets is spouting anything new" Keeper of Secrets says to you "When the one who walked from the water is made whole, the heralds of the nine shall arise. Knowledge is key. That is all." Whats that refer to? __________________ 41 Brigand 18 Outfitter 45 Shadow Knight 30 Armorer 25 Defiler 11 Scholar

07-18-2006, 04:59 AM	#173
Vollux Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	Zebuxoruk see this thread for further info. http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=14595

07-18-2006, 05:14 AM	#174
snowfleck Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 25	Well, I get the 'no expansions' rule, and it's a sound one, but it would make a kind of sense for the missing rep to be on Faydwer...

07-18-2006, 05:43 AM	#175
VizP Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 558	And equally annoying for the patch notes to indicate there are 'nine' prophets of which eight are right there in the game but one is sitting in an expansion 6 months away? Hmm... nah __________________ The Fable of the Soulmover - Silthian's Journal

07-18-2006, 06:23 AM	#176
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Vollux wrote: Zebuxoruk see this thread for further info. http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=14595 Actually that just proves even further that he's not the 9th god.

07-18-2006, 11:38 AM	#177
Jaale Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wales Posts: 185	Cusashorn wrote: Vollux wrote: Zebuxoruk see this thread for further info. http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=14595 Actually that just proves even further that he's not the 9th god. Actually no it doesn't, the writing is very none committal and vague. There is nothing that states that because he is the one that told us about it that he can't be the first Profit (he is, I believe) and the first of the nine (which he also is, again my belief) Just because he said about the rising of the nine does not mean that he is not one of the nine. Sorry I would need more solid proof that he is not other than just "he said it so it can't be him" the idea that it has all been old world before doesn't hold either, if he is the starter and I believe that he is then he can be anywhere and move into the old world before Faydwer comes live. He is he god of Knowledge... he is perfect for the Wizzy classes out there. The more I look at it the more I think that he is the first herald of the return of the gods the first of the nine being himself. (I'll not make any hat eating comments just yet though. )

07-18-2006, 12:00 PM	#178
troodon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Temple of Terror, Cabilis Posts: 1,098	Prophet __________________ ---- ROL GRATUL SKORCHERS!!

07-18-2006, 04:13 PM	#179
Dragonreal General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,554	Jaale wrote: Cusashorn wrote: Vollux wrote: Zebuxoruk see this thread for further info. http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=14595 Actually that just proves even further that he's not the 9th god. Actually no it doesn't, the writing is very none committal and vague. There is nothing that states that because he is the one that told us about it that he can't be the first Profit (he is, I believe) and the first of the nine (which he also is, again my belief) Just because he said about the rising of the nine does not mean that he is not one of the nine. Sorry I would need more solid proof that he is not other than just "he said it so it can't be him" the idea that it has all been old world before doesn't hold either, if he is the starter and I believe that he is then he can be anywhere and move into the old world before Faydwer comes live. He is he god of Knowledge... he is perfect for the Wizzy classes out there. The more I look at it the more I think that he is the first herald of the return of the gods the first of the nine being himself. (I'll not make any hat eating comments just yet though. ) so if your only real reason to think he's the final god is that he'd be a perfect god for wizzys to follow, what do you propose the fp druids follow? we can't follow tunare since they made her good aligned and not neutral... so imo the reasoning that it should be him just because he'd be perfect for wizzys doesn't hold much water

07-18-2006, 04:41 PM	#180
Jaale Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wales Posts: 185	Dragonrealms wrote: Jaale wrote: Cusashorn wrote: Vollux wrote: Zebuxoruk see this thread for further info. http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=lore&message.id=14595 Actually that just proves even further that he's not the 9th god. Actually no it doesn't, the writing is very none committal and vague. There is nothing that states that because he is the one that told us about it that he can't be the first Profit (he is, I believe) and the first of the nine (which he also is, again my belief) Just because he said about the rising of the nine does not mean that he is not one of the nine. Sorry I would need more solid proof that he is not other than just "he said it so it can't be him" the idea that it has all been old world before doesn't hold either, if he is the starter and I believe that he is then he can be anywhere and move into the old world before Faydwer comes live. He is he god of Knowledge... he is perfect for the Wizzy classes out there. The more I look at it the more I think that he is the first herald of the return of the gods the first of the nine being himself. (I'll not make any hat eating comments just yet though. ) so if your only real reason to think he's the final god is that he'd be a perfect god for wizzys to follow, what do you propose the fp druids follow? we can't follow tunare since they made her good aligned and not neutral... so imo the reasoning that it should be him just because he'd be perfect for wizzys doesn't hold much water Hmm talk about being too literal.. I meant the Mage classes in general rather than just Wizards.... (ergo wizzy classes not just wizards) It wasn't my only reason for thinking that Zeb could be of the nine, as I'm sure that if you read all of my reasoning that it would hold "water".. So why couldn't FP Druids follow Tunare? (because she is good) and why even bring it up as a counter to my argument? that sounds more like a gripe for the dev's rather than with my argument in it's self. If you want your Druid to follow Tunare then betray. if that doesn't fit then speak to the Dev's nicely and see if they will make it so that you can worship Tunare in an underground fasion, I'm sorry but I really can't help you there. I'm sure that there are people on the Q side who are upset that they can't worship thier god as well. If Zeb is the last God or of the nine to appear then he would be neutral meaning both sides could choose him which is in standing with wanting to give knowledge to everyone.