Correlating eq1 zones =) Can you tell me what they are?

Daniscoox2 · 02-21-2006, 03:18 AM

Hello all just wondering which zones correlate to which. (what the eq2 zones were called back in eq1, taking the rendering into account) I did the new newbie yard quests for freeport and some other zones and they told me of what happened to them and what they previously were. It got me interested in figuring out what every other zone was.Just curious what zones used to be, I'm not excatly sure on some of them and I'm reading about 70 of the book quests I've completed to look up more lore just curious if anyone could help me out with a few questions. Okay without further ado:What is:Zek the orchish wastes?Deathfist Citadel?The Enchanted Lands? all misty thicket, or kithicor forest?Nektulos Castle?The Wailing Caves?The Pillar of Flames? (just part of the desert of ro, which part?)The Clefts of Rujark (I know they were recently built but what was this area before)Feerrott? (the innothule swamp, anything else?)I know it's a lot of questions and also that some of these places probably didn't exist back in eq1, but if anyone could clarifty that would be awesome. Also I'm curious where a few places went or if they haven't been yet been rediscovered since the rendering if you could tell me.Do the following places still exist, or have they to come out or no longer exist?:Halas? (underwater in EF, possibly, I think but I'm not sure)Jaggedpine forest?Rathe Mountains?Lake Rathtear?Aviak village (if south karana exists atm)Thanks all for your time, I'm just curious what has happened in the past 500 years and what has changed. Hope you can answer my questions for me =).-Quester and upcoming lore junkie from Befallen

Cusashorn · 02-21-2006, 04:00 AM

Daniscoox2 wrote:What is:Zek the orchish wastes?Deathfist Citadel?The Enchanted Lands? all misty thicket, or kithicor forest?Nektulos Castle?The Wailing Caves?The Pillar of Flames? (just part of the desert of ro, which part?)The Clefts of Rujark (I know they were recently built but what was this area before)Feerrott? (the innothule swamp, anything else?)Do the following places still exist, or have they to come out or no longer exist?:Halas? (underwater in EF, possibly, I think but I'm not sure)Jaggedpine forest?Rathe Mountains?Lake Rathtear?Aviak village (if south karana exists atm)

1. Jaggedpine Forest.

2. Didn't exist.

3. Misty Thicket. Kithicor Forest no longer exists.

4. Didn''t Exist as a zone in EQlive.

5. Didn't Exist

6. The remains of the Lifyre River exists in PoF, which is the river that cut through and formed the Serpent Spine Mountains, which seperated the desert from the Planes of Karana. In EQlive, there is no correlating zone.

7. Not possible to determine. Just have to assume that the Clefts of Rujark are what the Rujarkian Hills used to be.

8. The Feerrott does exist. Its what the Feerrott is now. Innothule Swamp is rumored to be an expansion in the future.

9. Yes. Underwater in Everfrost, there are a few building ruins surrounded by the ghosts of Halasian citizens.

10. See 1.

11. Now known as the Straight of the Twelve, the peaks of the twelve mountains that make up Rathe Mountains are the only things not underwater, as per what Vhalen mentioned in a recent thread here. Expect an expansion that covers this area.

12. Rathetear Sea would be a more appropriate name now.

13. Long gone. It would be in the Thundering Steppes if it still existed.

Message Edited by Cusashorn on 02-20-200605:02 PM

backya · 02-21-2006, 11:47 PM

The Wailing Caves?

Happened after lucan took power. It was an orc outpost during the siege of freeport, it goes hand and hand with all the broken catipults laying around and rusted weapons sticking out of the ground. Lucan ordered the militia to go into the caves, as a sneak attack and upon doing so the militia slaughtered every orc in there in a big blood bath. This is why you see the orc spirits and the grave yard near the bottem. The face was carved on the outside as a tribute to what happened.

Mary the Prophetess · 02-21-2006, 11:55 PM

Doesn't Zek also include what used to be Surefall Glade and Nedaria's Landing, as well as the Jaggedpine Forest?

Cusashorn · 02-22-2006, 12:08 AM

Mary the Prophetess wrote:
Doesn't Zek also include what used to be Surefall Glade and Nedaria's Landing, as well as the Jaggedpine Forest?

Well Nedaria's Landing in this case didn't exist, but if it's also part of Surefall Glade, there's no NPC's or anything that indicate that it is.

IlionSturmli · 02-22-2006, 04:27 PM

Wailing Caves is whats left of Befallen.

Cusashorn · 02-22-2006, 08:09 PM

IlionSturmlied wrote:
Wailing Caves is whats left of Befallen.

No. It isn't. Befallen's been completely sealed off and destroyed. There are books and quests in the game that prove that the Wailing Caves didn't exist untill recently.

IlionSturmli · 02-22-2006, 08:14 PM

Hmm maybe I'm mixing something up.

I thought I read something ingame that the caves are Befallen.Have to check that with my new alt tonight.

Cusashorn · 02-22-2006, 08:18 PM

Nah. Stormhold is Befallen, but it's not Befallen because they had to give the Qeynosian side a level 20 undead dungeon in relation to the Fallen Gate, so they created the story of Stormhold and went with it from there.

KniteShayd · 02-23-2006, 02:08 AM

Yes, zek is what jagged pine used to be, surefall was attached and had a druid ring, which zek has also, i don't remember jagged pine having one. so that would lead me to believe jagged pine is in zek now. /shrug

I'd like this Clarified myself. woulda been nice if it was still attached to Antonica, which was Qeynos Hills, then.

Cusashorn · 02-23-2006, 02:16 AM

KniteShayd wrote:
Yes, zek is what jagged pine used to be, surefall was attached and had a druid ring, which zek has also, i don't remember jagged pine having one. so that would lead me to believe jagged pine is in zek now. /shrug

I'd like this Clarified myself. woulda been nice if it was still attached to Antonica, which was Qeynos Hills, then.

There are NPC's right at the docks in Zek who flat out tell you that Zek is Jaggedpine Forest.

And Surefall didn't have a druid spire. Druids ended up porting into a hollowed out tree if I remember right.

Mary the Prophetess · 02-23-2006, 02:36 AM

The Druid Ring in Surefall Glade comes and goes.

In EQ OnLine Advnetures, Surefall Glade had a regular Druid Ring. 500 years later, in EQ Live the Druid Ring is in a huge hollowed out tree. Now 500 years further on, the Druid Ring has re-emerged as a part of Zek.

Strange group those Druids.

TaleraRis · 02-23-2006, 06:05 AM

Surefall wasn't attached the Jaggedpine. There was a portal in Surefall to Jaggedpine but they weren't connected zone to zone. There was also a portal in Blackburrow.IIRC, there was a mountain keeping Jaggedpine separate. That's why the only way to it is by using the crystals.Nedaria's Landing I *think* you zoned right out into, without having to use a portal. And it would have existed here in EQ2, just not have been called Nedaria's Landing. The land would still have been there, though.Oh and as Cush said, you're told straight out Zek is the remains of Jaggedpine Forest. Although I can't remember which quest person it was who told me that. I had explored a lot of Zek and done a lot down the quest lines before I heard that.

Message Edited by TaleraRis on 02-22-200608:06 PM

Cusashorn · 02-23-2006, 06:24 AM

It was those three NPC's standing right there on the docks. You can't miss them.

teddyboy4 · 02-24-2006, 04:52 AM

If you think about the lay of the land in EQLive, and how things are now, the remains of what once was Surefall Glade MAY be the Hidden Vale in Antonica. Roughly where the Hidden Vale is now, is where the entrance to Surefall would have fallen if you compare maps of Antonica to the Qeynos Hills.As for Jaggedpine, there was a mountain range that seperated it from Surefall. However, it does appear that Surefall and Jaggedpine were indeed right next door to each other. I think the only reason there wasn't an actuall "door" to Jaggedpine is b/c it was just easier to put the teleport orb there than to tear down a zones outer wall. Looking at the map of Antonica in the Maps of Myrist, Zek could only be Jaggedpine. I offer another reason there is a Druid Ring on Zek though. People forget (mainly b/c it wasn't a physical zone in EQ) that Jaggedpine Forrest actually bordered on the area known as the Unkempt Woods. I surmise that the Druid Ring in what is know known as Zek is probably actually a Druid RIng from the Unkempt Woods. For anyone unfamiliar with the Unkempt, they were an outcast sect of Druids, so it is totally plausible to think that they might have had thier own Druid ring in the area they inhabited.

Rounl · 02-24-2006, 07:24 AM

now is like Living Tombs zone the old ancient Combine Empire city?

Cusashorn · 02-24-2006, 09:12 AM

Rounlin wrote:
now is like Living Tombs zone the old ancient Combine Empire city?

No. The Combine empire has nothing to do with anything in Desert of Flames.

It's been proven that it's not the ancient Elven city of Takish'Hiz either.

Ennis · 02-24-2006, 02:39 PM

This might prove helpful.

http://eq2.warcry.com/scripts/images/view_image.phtml?id=47478&site=68

Also, see this article on zones that were never developed in EQ.

http://eq.ogaming.com/info/Editorials~5.php

Message Edited by Ennis on 02-24-200603:55 AM

IlionSturmli · 02-24-2006, 06:33 PM

With that map you should keep in mind that both Qeynos and Freeport where moved during the 500 years.

TaleraRis · 02-25-2006, 01:13 AM

There's no maybe or evidence needed in regards to Zek. It is indeed the remains of Jaggedpine. You're told that in game.

Pyrrhx · 02-25-2006, 02:50 AM

Ennis wrote:
Also, see this article on zones that were never developed in EQ.
http://eq.ogaming.com/info/Editorials~5.php
Message Edited by Ennis on 02-24-200603:55 AM

That was in interesting article. Are you sure those area's didn't exist in EQlive? Or is it that they just didn't have zones to themselves?

Either way, I thought it interesting to note that those areas existed in EQOA (made easier in eqoa as the world was a continuous world: no loading when crossing zonelines). Well at least the areas mentioned below existed...

OdusThe Great Plateau (Large plain N, and NW of Arcadin(Erudin).. The Kappas were prominent in this area)The Vasty Deep (Incredibly deep lake with a ruined mer-city at the bottom.. lake itself is surrounded by ratmen)The Barren Coast (Ratman and Gargoyle territory; the largest landmark was the gargoyle spire)AntonicaThe Frigid Plane (Equivalent to the Snowblind Plains. The barbarians of the Anu tribe could be found here, as well as the dwelling place of the un-named king)Winters Deep (Upon the shores of this lake were the most prominent remaining elven settlements: Tethelin; Fayspires; Chiasta. Within the lake the Elves were constructing spires to send them to their cousins in Faydwer, N of the lake were the ruined combine spires, and W/NW of the lake were arcitc terrain in which were home to Greyvax's Cave, and the Elemental Cave)Lake Nerius (SE of the city of fayspires, this lake was home to Castle Felstar, as well as the Tier'dal outpost of Fort Seriak. Continuing E led to Colonridge Cemetary and ultimately Neriak)Serpent's Spine (Mountain Chain following the serpent river. Holciel Rowen'dal was built into this Mountain chain)Rujarkian Hills (that are roughly corresponds to the areas {E to W} of: Slithtar Hive; Takish Hiz; Tak' Xiv; Wiktaan's 4th Talon {Orc Fortification~early rujarkians most likely}; Elephant Graveyard; Fort Alliance)Greenblood River (Crawling with lizard men)The Dead Hills (The Tomb city of Envar is located in these hills; plague wiped out this civilization leaving one/two Jal'raeth)Unkempt Woods (Roughly West of Halas; Home to the Unkempt Druids as well as the birthplace of Lycanthropy)The Hatchland (Corresponds to the Snow-Griffon hill along the coast W/NW of Zentar's Keep)The Northland (Seems to be the permafrost area)

Sorry if that temporarily hi-jacked the thread, so.. uh... back on topic.. There was a cave system below the Wailing tree(hill..idr, it was a large tree on a big hill) in EQOA which could correspond to the Wailing caves before the cataclysms and the orc's use. The cave which was home to undead was pretty much N/NW of Freeport. Cataclysm could have uprooted the giant tree, elevated the surrounding the terrain, and perhaps moved it a little closer to the coast.

As for anything else, idk, I did Eqoa before EQ2 lol.

Themaginator · 03-10-2006, 08:26 AM

Rounlin wrote:
now is like Living Tombs zone the old ancient Combine Empire city?

No the living tombs along with the silent city and what not if you read from the book in the peacock line quest is a city of heritics that split off from an "ancient elven city" (Takish'Hiz) that worshiped Aneshti (sp?) Sul. They drank from the Fy'urn and became undead servants to the goddess of life/unlife. also it has something to do with the heretic that started this city and something called the tal'thex (they copied my last name!) or something i need to read it again well theirs my rambling for the day hope that helped

Message Edited by Themaginator on 03-09-200607:27 PM

Cusashorn · 03-10-2006, 09:11 AM

Themaginator wrote:
Rounlin wrote:
now is like Living Tombs zone the old ancient Combine Empire city?
No the living tombs along with the silent city and what not if you read from the book in the peacock line quest is a city of heritics that split off from an "ancient elven city" (Takish'Hiz) that worshiped Aneshti (sp?) Sul. They drank from the Fy'urn and became undead servants to the goddess of life/unlife. also it has something to do with the heretic that started this city and something called the tal'thex (they copied my last name!) or something i need to read it again well theirs my rambling for the day hope that helped
Message Edited by Themaginator on 03-09-200607:27 PM

It's been stated in the game through that same line of quests you mention that Takish'Hiz is NOT the Living Tombs, Silent City, or Aket Akhan.

Themaginator · 03-10-2006, 10:09 AM

yes sry if i wasnt clear on that i meant to say LT and SC are not Takish Hiz or any of those but a city started by heretics from Takish sry if i was unclear. the city probably was never discovered in EQlive so we dont see it...but it would explain the crazy amount of undead in the Ro of EQlive

Message Edited by Themaginator on 03-09-200609:11 PM

Cusashorn · 03-10-2006, 10:27 AM

Yeah it never existed in EQlive, but yeah it would explain a lot.

Davisok · 03-16-2006, 01:32 AM

Cusashorn wrote:
Daniscoox2 wrote:What is:Zek the orchish wastes?Deathfist Citadel?The Enchanted Lands? all misty thicket, or kithicor forest?Nektulos Castle?The Wailing Caves?The Pillar of Flames? (just part of the desert of ro, which part?)The Clefts of Rujark (I know they were recently built but what was this area before)Feerrott? (the innothule swamp, anything else?)Do the following places still exist, or have they to come out or no longer exist?:Halas? (underwater in EF, possibly, I think but I'm not sure)Jaggedpine forest?Rathe Mountains?Lake Rathtear?Aviak village (if south karana exists atm)
1. Jaggedpine Forest.
2. Didn't exist.
3. Misty Thicket. Kithicor Forest no longer exists.
4. Didn''t Exist as a zone in EQlive.
5. Didn't Exist
6. The remains of the Lifyre River exists in PoF, which is the river that cut through and formed the Serpent Spine Mountains, which seperated the desert from the Planes of Karana. In EQlive, there is no correlating zone.
7. Not possible to determine. Just have to assume that the Clefts of Rujark are what the Rujarkian Hills used to be.
8. The Feerrott does exist. Its what the Feerrott is now. Innothule Swamp is rumored to be an expansion in the future.

9. Yes. Underwater in Everfrost, there are a few building ruins surrounded by the ghosts of Halasian citizens.
10. See 1.
11. Now known as the Straight of the Twelve, the peaks of the twelve mountains that make up Rathe Mountains are the only things not underwater, as per what Vhalen mentioned in a recent thread here. Expect an expansion that covers this area.
12. Rathetear Sea would be a more appropriate name now.
13. Long gone. It would be in the Thundering Steppes if it still existed.
Message Edited by Cusashorn on 02-20-200605:02 PM

just some thoughts... Nektulous Castle = Castle Mistmoore and deathfist citadel presumably could be a advance by the deathfist orcs that inhabbited the two commonlands in eq.

Krien the Wick · 03-16-2006, 08:14 AM

Nektropos has nothing to do with mistmoore castle, different continents even. Deathfist citidel wasn't erected in EQ1 yet.

Kindayr · 03-16-2006, 09:16 AM

I;m guessing that Nek Castle would be Najena. Though Najena was connected to Lavastorm, wasn't Lavastorm also connected to Nek Forrest? If i'm wrong then i'm wrong heh, haven't played Live since Early 2004.

Cusashorn · 03-16-2006, 10:42 AM

The ruins of Najena can be found right to the left of the cave at the beach in Lavastorm. It was always part of Lavastorm, and not Nektulos Forest.

Zabjade · 03-17-2006, 11:48 PM

Cusashorn wrote:

3. Misty Thicket. Kithicor Forest no longer exists. Yes it does at least in the offical pen and paper RPG version, it is called the Forbidden Forrest and is an island slightly Southwest of the Enchanted lands.
8. The Feerrott does exist. Its what the Feerrott is now. Innothule Swamp is rumored to be an expansion in the future. Probably the Fjords(?) of Yekesha I saw on the RPG map.
9. Yes. Underwater in Everfrost, there are a few building ruins surrounded by the ghosts of Halasian citizens.Wierd thing is Halas should be NOT be nextdoor to permafrost but far WEST across the zone

02-22-2006, 12:08 AM	#5
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Mary the Prophetess wrote: Doesn't Zek also include what used to be Surefall Glade and Nedaria's Landing, as well as the Jaggedpine Forest? Well Nedaria's Landing in this case didn't exist, but if it's also part of Surefall Glade, there's no NPC's or anything that indicate that it is.

02-22-2006, 08:09 PM	#7
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	IlionSturmlied wrote: Wailing Caves is whats left of Befallen. No. It isn't. Befallen's been completely sealed off and destroyed. There are books and quests in the game that prove that the Wailing Caves didn't exist untill recently.

02-23-2006, 02:16 AM	#11
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	KniteShayd wrote: Yes, zek is what jagged pine used to be, surefall was attached and had a druid ring, which zek has also, i don't remember jagged pine having one. so that would lead me to believe jagged pine is in zek now. /shrug I'd like this Clarified myself. woulda been nice if it was still attached to Antonica, which was Qeynos Hills, then. There are NPC's right at the docks in Zek who flat out tell you that Zek is Jaggedpine Forest. And Surefall didn't have a druid spire. Druids ended up porting into a hollowed out tree if I remember right.

02-23-2006, 06:05 AM	#13
TaleraRis Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,083	Surefall wasn't attached the Jaggedpine. There was a portal in Surefall to Jaggedpine but they weren't connected zone to zone. There was also a portal in Blackburrow.IIRC, there was a mountain keeping Jaggedpine separate. That's why the only way to it is by using the crystals.Nedaria's Landing I think you zoned right out into, without having to use a portal. And it would have existed here in EQ2, just not have been called Nedaria's Landing. The land would still have been there, though.Oh and as Cush said, you're told straight out Zek is the remains of Jaggedpine Forest. Although I can't remember which quest person it was who told me that. I had explored a lot of Zek and done a lot down the quest lines before I heard that. Message Edited by TaleraRis on 02-22-200608:06 PM __________________ Gwyneth Lecarde 90 Warty Arrow Flinger 90 Sword Shiner Najena Morgasand Ka'Bael 54 Roswellian Mind Scrambler 87 Shield Polisher Najena

02-24-2006, 04:52 AM	#15
teddyboy4 General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 299	If you think about the lay of the land in EQLive, and how things are now, the remains of what once was Surefall Glade MAY be the Hidden Vale in Antonica. Roughly where the Hidden Vale is now, is where the entrance to Surefall would have fallen if you compare maps of Antonica to the Qeynos Hills.As for Jaggedpine, there was a mountain range that seperated it from Surefall. However, it does appear that Surefall and Jaggedpine were indeed right next door to each other. I think the only reason there wasn't an actuall "door" to Jaggedpine is b/c it was just easier to put the teleport orb there than to tear down a zones outer wall. Looking at the map of Antonica in the Maps of Myrist, Zek could only be Jaggedpine. I offer another reason there is a Druid Ring on Zek though. People forget (mainly b/c it wasn't a physical zone in EQ) that Jaggedpine Forrest actually bordered on the area known as the Unkempt Woods. I surmise that the Druid Ring in what is know known as Zek is probably actually a Druid RIng from the Unkempt Woods. For anyone unfamiliar with the Unkempt, they were an outcast sect of Druids, so it is totally plausible to think that they might have had thier own Druid ring in the area they inhabited. __________________

02-21-2006, 03:18 AM	#1
Daniscoox2 Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 47	Hello all just wondering which zones correlate to which. (what the eq2 zones were called back in eq1, taking the rendering into account) I did the new newbie yard quests for freeport and some other zones and they told me of what happened to them and what they previously were. It got me interested in figuring out what every other zone was.Just curious what zones used to be, I'm not excatly sure on some of them and I'm reading about 70 of the book quests I've completed to look up more lore just curious if anyone could help me out with a few questions. Okay without further ado:What is:Zek the orchish wastes?Deathfist Citadel?The Enchanted Lands? all misty thicket, or kithicor forest?Nektulos Castle?The Wailing Caves?The Pillar of Flames? (just part of the desert of ro, which part?)The Clefts of Rujark (I know they were recently built but what was this area before)Feerrott? (the innothule swamp, anything else?)I know it's a lot of questions and also that some of these places probably didn't exist back in eq1, but if anyone could clarifty that would be awesome. Also I'm curious where a few places went or if they haven't been yet been rediscovered since the rendering if you could tell me.Do the following places still exist, or have they to come out or no longer exist?:Halas? (underwater in EF, possibly, I think but I'm not sure)Jaggedpine forest?Rathe Mountains?Lake Rathtear?Aviak village (if south karana exists atm)Thanks all for your time, I'm just curious what has happened in the past 500 years and what has changed. Hope you can answer my questions for me =).-Quester and upcoming lore junkie from Befallen

02-21-2006, 04:00 AM	#2
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Daniscoox2 wrote:What is:Zek the orchish wastes?Deathfist Citadel?The Enchanted Lands? all misty thicket, or kithicor forest?Nektulos Castle?The Wailing Caves?The Pillar of Flames? (just part of the desert of ro, which part?)The Clefts of Rujark (I know they were recently built but what was this area before)Feerrott? (the innothule swamp, anything else?)Do the following places still exist, or have they to come out or no longer exist?:Halas? (underwater in EF, possibly, I think but I'm not sure)Jaggedpine forest?Rathe Mountains?Lake Rathtear?Aviak village (if south karana exists atm) 1. Jaggedpine Forest. 2. Didn't exist. 3. Misty Thicket. Kithicor Forest no longer exists. 4. Didn''t Exist as a zone in EQlive. 5. Didn't Exist 6. The remains of the Lifyre River exists in PoF, which is the river that cut through and formed the Serpent Spine Mountains, which seperated the desert from the Planes of Karana. In EQlive, there is no correlating zone. 7. Not possible to determine. Just have to assume that the Clefts of Rujark are what the Rujarkian Hills used to be. 8. The Feerrott does exist. Its what the Feerrott is now. Innothule Swamp is rumored to be an expansion in the future. 9. Yes. Underwater in Everfrost, there are a few building ruins surrounded by the ghosts of Halasian citizens. 10. See 1. 11. Now known as the Straight of the Twelve, the peaks of the twelve mountains that make up Rathe Mountains are the only things not underwater, as per what Vhalen mentioned in a recent thread here. Expect an expansion that covers this area. 12. Rathetear Sea would be a more appropriate name now. 13. Long gone. It would be in the Thundering Steppes if it still existed. Message Edited by Cusashorn on 02-20-200605:02 PM

02-21-2006, 11:47 PM	#3
backya Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 105	The Wailing Caves? Happened after lucan took power. It was an orc outpost during the siege of freeport, it goes hand and hand with all the broken catipults laying around and rusted weapons sticking out of the ground. Lucan ordered the militia to go into the caves, as a sneak attack and upon doing so the militia slaughtered every orc in there in a big blood bath. This is why you see the orc spirits and the grave yard near the bottem. The face was carved on the outside as a tribute to what happened.

02-21-2006, 11:55 PM	#4
Mary the Prophetess Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	Doesn't Zek also include what used to be Surefall Glade and Nedaria's Landing, as well as the Jaggedpine Forest?

02-22-2006, 04:27 PM	#6
IlionSturmli Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 43	Wailing Caves is whats left of Befallen.

02-22-2006, 08:14 PM	#8
IlionSturmli Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 43	Hmm maybe I'm mixing something up. I thought I read something ingame that the caves are Befallen.Have to check that with my new alt tonight.

02-22-2006, 08:18 PM	#9
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Nah. Stormhold is Befallen, but it's not Befallen because they had to give the Qeynosian side a level 20 undead dungeon in relation to the Fallen Gate, so they created the story of Stormhold and went with it from there.

02-23-2006, 02:08 AM	#10
KniteShayd Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,190	Yes, zek is what jagged pine used to be, surefall was attached and had a druid ring, which zek has also, i don't remember jagged pine having one. so that would lead me to believe jagged pine is in zek now. /shrug I'd like this Clarified myself. woulda been nice if it was still attached to Antonica, which was Qeynos Hills, then.

02-23-2006, 02:36 AM	#12
Mary the Prophetess Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	The Druid Ring in Surefall Glade comes and goes. In EQ OnLine Advnetures, Surefall Glade had a regular Druid Ring. 500 years later, in EQ Live the Druid Ring is in a huge hollowed out tree. Now 500 years further on, the Druid Ring has re-emerged as a part of Zek. Strange group those Druids.

02-23-2006, 06:24 AM	#14
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	It was those three NPC's standing right there on the docks. You can't miss them.

02-24-2006, 07:24 AM	#16
Rounl Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23	now is like Living Tombs zone the old ancient Combine Empire city?

02-24-2006, 09:12 AM	#17
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Rounlin wrote: now is like Living Tombs zone the old ancient Combine Empire city? No. The Combine empire has nothing to do with anything in Desert of Flames. It's been proven that it's not the ancient Elven city of Takish'Hiz either.

02-24-2006, 02:39 PM	#18
Ennis Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 137	This might prove helpful. http://eq2.warcry.com/scripts/images/view_image.phtml?id=47478&site=68 Also, see this article on zones that were never developed in EQ. http://eq.ogaming.com/info/Editorials~5.php Message Edited by Ennis on 02-24-200603:55 AM __________________

02-24-2006, 06:33 PM	#19
IlionSturmli Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 43	With that map you should keep in mind that both Qeynos and Freeport where moved during the 500 years.

02-25-2006, 01:13 AM	#20
TaleraRis Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,083	There's no maybe or evidence needed in regards to Zek. It is indeed the remains of Jaggedpine. You're told that in game. __________________ Gwyneth Lecarde 90 Warty Arrow Flinger 90 Sword Shiner Najena Morgasand Ka'Bael 54 Roswellian Mind Scrambler 87 Shield Polisher Najena

02-25-2006, 02:50 AM	#21
Pyrrhx Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 133	Ennis wrote: Also, see this article on zones that were never developed in EQ. http://eq.ogaming.com/info/Editorials~5.php Message Edited by Ennis on 02-24-200603:55 AM That was in interesting article. Are you sure those area's didn't exist in EQlive? Or is it that they just didn't have zones to themselves? Either way, I thought it interesting to note that those areas existed in EQOA (made easier in eqoa as the world was a continuous world: no loading when crossing zonelines). Well at least the areas mentioned below existed... OdusThe Great Plateau (Large plain N, and NW of Arcadin(Erudin).. The Kappas were prominent in this area)The Vasty Deep (Incredibly deep lake with a ruined mer-city at the bottom.. lake itself is surrounded by ratmen)The Barren Coast (Ratman and Gargoyle territory; the largest landmark was the gargoyle spire)AntonicaThe Frigid Plane (Equivalent to the Snowblind Plains. The barbarians of the Anu tribe could be found here, as well as the dwelling place of the un-named king)Winters Deep (Upon the shores of this lake were the most prominent remaining elven settlements: Tethelin; Fayspires; Chiasta. Within the lake the Elves were constructing spires to send them to their cousins in Faydwer, N of the lake were the ruined combine spires, and W/NW of the lake were arcitc terrain in which were home to Greyvax's Cave, and the Elemental Cave)Lake Nerius (SE of the city of fayspires, this lake was home to Castle Felstar, as well as the Tier'dal outpost of Fort Seriak. Continuing E led to Colonridge Cemetary and ultimately Neriak)Serpent's Spine (Mountain Chain following the serpent river. Holciel Rowen'dal was built into this Mountain chain)Rujarkian Hills (that are roughly corresponds to the areas {E to W} of: Slithtar Hive; Takish Hiz; Tak' Xiv; Wiktaan's 4th Talon {Orc Fortification~early rujarkians most likely}; Elephant Graveyard; Fort Alliance)Greenblood River (Crawling with lizard men)The Dead Hills (The Tomb city of Envar is located in these hills; plague wiped out this civilization leaving one/two Jal'raeth)Unkempt Woods (Roughly West of Halas; Home to the Unkempt Druids as well as the birthplace of Lycanthropy)The Hatchland (Corresponds to the Snow-Griffon hill along the coast W/NW of Zentar's Keep)The Northland (Seems to be the permafrost area) Sorry if that temporarily hi-jacked the thread, so.. uh... back on topic.. There was a cave system below the Wailing tree(hill..idr, it was a large tree on a big hill) in EQOA which could correspond to the Wailing caves before the cataclysms and the orc's use. The cave which was home to undead was pretty much N/NW of Freeport. Cataclysm could have uprooted the giant tree, elevated the surrounding the terrain, and perhaps moved it a little closer to the coast. As for anything else, idk, I did Eqoa before EQ2 lol.

03-10-2006, 08:26 AM	#22
Themaginator Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 833	Rounlin wrote: now is like Living Tombs zone the old ancient Combine Empire city? No the living tombs along with the silent city and what not if you read from the book in the peacock line quest is a city of heritics that split off from an "ancient elven city" (Takish'Hiz) that worshiped Aneshti (sp?) Sul. They drank from the Fy'urn and became undead servants to the goddess of life/unlife. also it has something to do with the heretic that started this city and something called the tal'thex (they copied my last name!) or something i need to read it again well theirs my rambling for the day hope that helped Message Edited by Themaginator on 03-09-200607:27 PM

03-10-2006, 09:11 AM	#23
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Themaginator wrote: Rounlin wrote: now is like Living Tombs zone the old ancient Combine Empire city? No the living tombs along with the silent city and what not if you read from the book in the peacock line quest is a city of heritics that split off from an "ancient elven city" (Takish'Hiz) that worshiped Aneshti (sp?) Sul. They drank from the Fy'urn and became undead servants to the goddess of life/unlife. also it has something to do with the heretic that started this city and something called the tal'thex (they copied my last name!) or something i need to read it again well theirs my rambling for the day hope that helped Message Edited by Themaginator on 03-09-200607:27 PM It's been stated in the game through that same line of quests you mention that Takish'Hiz is NOT the Living Tombs, Silent City, or Aket Akhan.

03-10-2006, 10:09 AM	#24
Themaginator Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 833	yes sry if i wasnt clear on that i meant to say LT and SC are not Takish Hiz or any of those but a city started by heretics from Takish sry if i was unclear. the city probably was never discovered in EQlive so we dont see it...but it would explain the crazy amount of undead in the Ro of EQlive Message Edited by Themaginator on 03-09-200609:11 PM

03-10-2006, 10:27 AM	#25
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Yeah it never existed in EQlive, but yeah it would explain a lot.

03-16-2006, 01:32 AM	#26
Davisok Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7	Cusashorn wrote: Daniscoox2 wrote:What is:Zek the orchish wastes?Deathfist Citadel?The Enchanted Lands? all misty thicket, or kithicor forest?Nektulos Castle?The Wailing Caves?The Pillar of Flames? (just part of the desert of ro, which part?)The Clefts of Rujark (I know they were recently built but what was this area before)Feerrott? (the innothule swamp, anything else?)Do the following places still exist, or have they to come out or no longer exist?:Halas? (underwater in EF, possibly, I think but I'm not sure)Jaggedpine forest?Rathe Mountains?Lake Rathtear?Aviak village (if south karana exists atm) 1. Jaggedpine Forest. 2. Didn't exist. 3. Misty Thicket. Kithicor Forest no longer exists. 4. Didn''t Exist as a zone in EQlive. 5. Didn't Exist 6. The remains of the Lifyre River exists in PoF, which is the river that cut through and formed the Serpent Spine Mountains, which seperated the desert from the Planes of Karana. In EQlive, there is no correlating zone. 7. Not possible to determine. Just have to assume that the Clefts of Rujark are what the Rujarkian Hills used to be. 8. The Feerrott does exist. Its what the Feerrott is now. Innothule Swamp is rumored to be an expansion in the future. 9. Yes. Underwater in Everfrost, there are a few building ruins surrounded by the ghosts of Halasian citizens. 10. See 1. 11. Now known as the Straight of the Twelve, the peaks of the twelve mountains that make up Rathe Mountains are the only things not underwater, as per what Vhalen mentioned in a recent thread here. Expect an expansion that covers this area. 12. Rathetear Sea would be a more appropriate name now. 13. Long gone. It would be in the Thundering Steppes if it still existed. Message Edited by Cusashorn on 02-20-200605:02 PM just some thoughts... Nektulous Castle = Castle Mistmoore and deathfist citadel presumably could be a advance by the deathfist orcs that inhabbited the two commonlands in eq.

03-16-2006, 08:14 AM	#27
Krien the Wick Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 168	Nektropos has nothing to do with mistmoore castle, different continents even. Deathfist citidel wasn't erected in EQ1 yet.

03-16-2006, 09:16 AM	#28
Kindayr Tester Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 262	I;m guessing that Nek Castle would be Najena. Though Najena was connected to Lavastorm, wasn't Lavastorm also connected to Nek Forrest? If i'm wrong then i'm wrong heh, haven't played Live since Early 2004. __________________

03-16-2006, 10:42 AM	#29
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	The ruins of Najena can be found right to the left of the cave at the beach in Lavastorm. It was always part of Lavastorm, and not Nektulos Forest.

03-17-2006, 11:48 PM	#30
Zabjade Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,631	Cusashorn wrote: 3. Misty Thicket. Kithicor Forest no longer exists. Yes it does at least in the offical pen and paper RPG version, it is called the Forbidden Forrest and is an island slightly Southwest of the Enchanted lands. 8. The Feerrott does exist. Its what the Feerrott is now. Innothule Swamp is rumored to be an expansion in the future. Probably the Fjords(?) of Yekesha I saw on the RPG map. 9. Yes. Underwater in Everfrost, there are a few building ruins surrounded by the ghosts of Halasian citizens.Wierd thing is Halas should be NOT be nextdoor to permafrost but far WEST across the zone __________________