Teir'Dal War on Faydwer

uronc · 11-15-2004, 10:40 PM

Has anyone found details on this war. In beta, I played a High Elf in Qeynos and remember meeting someone who spoke about this war but can't remember details. (I am in Freeport now.) How long ago was it? Does it have a specific name? I think I remember the dwarves coming to the rescue but I am not sure. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

iceriven2 · 11-16-2004, 02:37 AM

there is a wood elf in willow wood. She sits at a grave yard morning the loss. She tells the story well, some of it. Short version. Orcs attack wood elves and keep them busy. Dark elf ships appaer out of now where(she says it was porb a portal) but a portal from the ground appaers at the spires and legions of dragoons come out. War goes on for many seasons(years a assume) The high elves and wood else are putting up a fight but loosing. finally the dwarves and gnomes with there clockwork army appaer and save the day. Princes Queen (name)(srry can't remember but the duaghter of the king since king was killed) repairs what is lost. Don't know what happened next b/c the npc left fay shortly after that.

JudeMorrig · 11-17-2004, 12:57 AM

There's a rather bitter dark elf in Longshadow who talks about it also. I don't recall what her name is, but she's in one of the small houses along the ally itself (rather than the central region.)

DarkCris · 11-17-2004, 01:09 AM

I like the story up until the end

Basicly DE and Orcs went and kicked the crud out of the light elves. They were getting stomped.

then the Dwarves and Gnomes had to join in and made the DE flee.

Meanwhile back in Neriak the Halflings grew a pair and attacked Neriak while the military was away.

For some reason the Foreign Quarter (now fallen Gate) collapsed killed hte Halflings and DE trapped inside.

As to what is going on in the depths of Neriak.. time will tell.

Kamimura · 11-18-2004, 03:19 AM

Whats happening in Neriak is something I really want to find out..

Falda · 11-18-2004, 08:24 AM

in eqoa (wich is supposed to be 500 years before eq1) there is a door you cannot go into in Neriak, an NPC tells you that only a great power can summon you in to see this evil.

Slavad · 11-18-2004, 12:45 PM

So if the Teir'Dal lost, then what happened to Faydwer?

band09 · 11-18-2004, 06:15 PM

Smart money is on Faydwer being an expansion pack.

Slavad · 11-19-2004, 10:07 AM

Hah yeah sounds about right. Well as long as Crushbone enters the game eventually I'll be satisfied. SMILEY

TB · 11-20-2004, 12:13 AM

Hey if we got Blackburrow, I'm pretty sure Crushbone would be with that. SMILEY

Maelynia · 02-19-2005, 02:43 AM

Sorry to dig up an old thread, BUT, I was told a few nights ago that Neriak’s priests played a treacherous hand in the death of Naythox Thex, king of Neriak, when he went to war against the light elves in Faydark. This info was read "somewhere" by this player, but I have not come across it. Have any of you?I only have slim details just as mentioned in above posts - that the Teir`Dal were winning until the Dwarves jumped in and caused the Teir`Dal to withdraw. The Teir`Dal forces were scattered and somewhere in there, Naythox was killed. If the priests back-stabbed the king, this is the first I’ve heard of it. Just curious if any of you have heard this. I need to do more of those history/tome quests! I am curious as to why the priests would do that, as per EQ1 lore, they were more aligned with the King, not the Queen. Maybe it was a rogue priest? If anyone knows of this or comes across any solid info, please let me know. Most of what I have found are vague details of the war along with various timelines.Thanks!

Jaron · 02-19-2005, 05:30 AM

www.briarebellion.com/eq2/dragoonzytl.txt

Raw log of the three Dragoon Zytl journals from Freeport.

Eb0n · 02-19-2005, 07:25 PM

The lore section of my guild has the compieled story from the sources in game.Check here.http://housemaelthra.eq2guilds.orgHouse Maelthra - An EverQuest II Guild

Message Edited by Eb0n on 02-19-2005 06:26 AM

Maguu · 02-27-2005, 03:59 PM

Jaron95 wrote:

www.briarebellion.com/eq2/dragoonzytl.txt

Raw log of the three Dragoon Zytl journals from Freeport.

I have doubts this is a real log, but if someone can confirm I'd like to know, to me the spelling/punctuation/grammar smacks of FAKE. Innoruuk mis-spelled, for one.

Regardles of validity, he's a dragoon, not a priest. and he refused to assassinate him. In fact, more likely, the Queen set up the attempt at assassination, but to my knowledge, the priests of innoruuk are loyal to the King, not the Queen, as is the guard in the above document.

However, there is yet another twist. in Everquest 1, the "Indigo Brotherhood", "Dread Guard Outer" and "Dread Guard Inner" are not particularly loyal to either King or Queen. This guy is Dread Guard outer.

This faction association means he is really not loyal to King or Queen either. In fact, if you look at quests that increased faction with the Dread Guard Outer in EQ1, only 1 quest gave a faction hit to the King or the Queen, and that was one quest that was a faction increase to the Queen faction. What does all this mean?

In a nutshell, it's illogical for this guy to be Dread Guard Outer (Which he IS), and hate the Queen and love the King as he does. Faction hits in EQ1 indicate he SHOULD lean towards teh Queen rather than the King, but as stated neither of the 3 factions are what I would consider loyal. The whole faction issue aside, it has nothing to do with the Priests of Innoruuk wanting to kill King Naythox, nor does it in any way indicate they did have an hand in it.

Maelynia · 02-28-2005, 10:00 PM

I share you thoughts, Maguu. At this point, I'm just assuming that the player that told me the priests were responsible for the king's death was misinformed. I have been unable to find anything to prove otherwise.

Aion · 02-28-2005, 11:27 PM

Maguu wrote:
Jaron95 wrote:
www.briarebellion.com/eq2/dragoonzytl.txt

Raw log of the three Dragoon Zytl journals from Freeport.

I have doubts this is a real log, but if someone can confirm I'd like to know, to me the spelling/punctuation/grammar smacks of FAKE. Innoruuk mis-spelled, for one.
Regardles of validity, he's a dragoon, not a priest. and he refused to assassinate him. In fact, more likely, the Queen set up the attempt at assassination, but to my knowledge, the priests of innoruuk are loyal to the King, not the Queen, as is the guard in the above document.
However, there is yet another twist. in Everquest 1, the "Indigo Brotherhood", "Dread Guard Outer" and "Dread Guard Inner" are not particularly loyal to either King or Queen. This guy is Dread Guard outer.
This faction association means he is really not loyal to King or Queen either. In fact, if you look at quests that increased faction with the Dread Guard Outer in EQ1, only 1 quest gave a faction hit to the King or the Queen, and that was one quest that was a faction increase to the Queen faction. What does all this mean?
In a nutshell, it's illogical for this guy to be Dread Guard Outer (Which he IS), and hate the Queen and love the King as he does. Faction hits in EQ1 indicate he SHOULD lean towards teh Queen rather than the King, but as stated neither of the 3 factions are what I would consider loyal. The whole faction issue aside, it has nothing to do with the Priests of Innoruuk wanting to kill King Naythox, nor does it in any way indicate they did have an hand in it.

You must not have read a lot of in-game books. There are spelling errors and grammatical errors EVERYWHERE.Are you sugesting that Jaron95 wrote these himself and is trying to hoodwink us into beleiveing they are actual in-game volumes, when they are not?I have no reason to doubt him.

Kryussius · 03-01-2005, 01:11 AM

Actually, from what I recall, the Indigo Brotherhood was loyal to the King, while the priests were loyal to the Queen.

Basically, look at the split of where the guildhalls were in old Neriak:

Warriors, Magi, Wizards, and Enchanters were all in Neriak Commons (Loyal to the King). Priests, The Dead (Necromancers and Shadow Knights), and Rogues were in Third Gate (loyal to the Queen).

So it's possible that the priests/priestesses of Innoruuk caused the King's death at the beheadst of the Queen before she sealed Neriak.

Maguu · 03-01-2005, 02:25 AM

Kryussius wrote:

Actually, from what I recall, the Indigo Brotherhood was loyal to the King, while the priests were loyal to the Queen.

Basically, look at the split of where the guildhalls were in old Neriak:

Warriors, Magi, Wizards, and Enchanters were all in Neriak Commons (Loyal to the King). Priests, The Dead (Necromancers and Shadow Knights), and Rogues were in Third Gate (loyal to the Queen).

So it's possible that the priests/priestesses of Innoruuk caused the King's death at the beheadst of the Queen before she sealed Neriak.

I dont' thikn the locations is particularly relevant, other than that the mage/chanter/wizard guilds and warrior guilds being together has a minor connection in that those casting guilds were called the spurned, as they were shunned by Dark elves who were Innoruuk worshippers, the Warriors were also not particuarly well loved by many of the others in Neriak. Quest faction hits in EQ1 indicated the Priests allegience to the king rather clearly, in my opinion. Also, as another note, people on Spurned faction were often KOS in the guild hall of the necros and SK's. But the rogues, on the other hand, while not usually KOS, they had no *open* claims of alliance or otherwise towards any Neriak guilds, they only hated most other rogue guilds, especially non-evil ones. I really can't say if they preferred King or Queen, on that point I'm not certain. One thing I think we can all agree on is that Neriak politics is incredibly confusing, this is quite intentional.

Kamimura · 03-01-2005, 03:33 AM

The Priests of Innrouuk were indeed loyal to King Naythox Thex. When you started out and handed in your guild note the faction changed made this clear, along with other quest faction changes.

Maguu · 03-01-2005, 10:52 AM

Aye that would be the faction hits for the Innoruuk necklace quest for clerics SMILEY

11-17-2004, 01:09 AM	#4
DarkCris Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1	I like the story up until the end Basicly DE and Orcs went and kicked the crud out of the light elves. They were getting stomped. then the Dwarves and Gnomes had to join in and made the DE flee. Meanwhile back in Neriak the Halflings grew a pair and attacked Neriak while the military was away. For some reason the Foreign Quarter (now fallen Gate) collapsed killed hte Halflings and DE trapped inside. As to what is going on in the depths of Neriak.. time will tell. __________________

11-18-2004, 08:24 AM	#6
Falda Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6	in eqoa (wich is supposed to be 500 years before eq1) there is a door you cannot go into in Neriak, an NPC tells you that only a great power can summon you in to see this evil. __________________ Faldans- 15 Iksar Summoner Lavastorm Faldans- 16 Kerran Brawler Oasis Faldans-21 Wood Elf Warlock Guk

02-19-2005, 05:30 AM	#12
Jaron General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 53	www.briarebellion.com/eq2/dragoonzytl.txt Raw log of the three Dragoon Zytl journals from Freeport. __________________

02-27-2005, 03:59 PM	#14
Maguu Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45	Jaron95 wrote: www.briarebellion.com/eq2/dragoonzytl.txt Raw log of the three Dragoon Zytl journals from Freeport. I have doubts this is a real log, but if someone can confirm I'd like to know, to me the spelling/punctuation/grammar smacks of FAKE. Innoruuk mis-spelled, for one. Regardles of validity, he's a dragoon, not a priest. and he refused to assassinate him. In fact, more likely, the Queen set up the attempt at assassination, but to my knowledge, the priests of innoruuk are loyal to the King, not the Queen, as is the guard in the above document. However, there is yet another twist. in Everquest 1, the "Indigo Brotherhood", "Dread Guard Outer" and "Dread Guard Inner" are not particularly loyal to either King or Queen. This guy is Dread Guard outer. This faction association means he is really not loyal to King or Queen either. In fact, if you look at quests that increased faction with the Dread Guard Outer in EQ1, only 1 quest gave a faction hit to the King or the Queen, and that was one quest that was a faction increase to the Queen faction. What does all this mean? In a nutshell, it's illogical for this guy to be Dread Guard Outer (Which he IS), and hate the Queen and love the King as he does. Faction hits in EQ1 indicate he SHOULD lean towards teh Queen rather than the King, but as stated neither of the 3 factions are what I would consider loyal. The whole faction issue aside, it has nothing to do with the Priests of Innoruuk wanting to kill King Naythox, nor does it in any way indicate they did have an hand in it.

02-28-2005, 11:27 PM	#16
Aion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 209	Maguu wrote: Jaron95 wrote: www.briarebellion.com/eq2/dragoonzytl.txt Raw log of the three Dragoon Zytl journals from Freeport. I have doubts this is a real log, but if someone can confirm I'd like to know, to me the spelling/punctuation/grammar smacks of FAKE. Innoruuk mis-spelled, for one. Regardles of validity, he's a dragoon, not a priest. and he refused to assassinate him. In fact, more likely, the Queen set up the attempt at assassination, but to my knowledge, the priests of innoruuk are loyal to the King, not the Queen, as is the guard in the above document. However, there is yet another twist. in Everquest 1, the "Indigo Brotherhood", "Dread Guard Outer" and "Dread Guard Inner" are not particularly loyal to either King or Queen. This guy is Dread Guard outer. This faction association means he is really not loyal to King or Queen either. In fact, if you look at quests that increased faction with the Dread Guard Outer in EQ1, only 1 quest gave a faction hit to the King or the Queen, and that was one quest that was a faction increase to the Queen faction. What does all this mean? In a nutshell, it's illogical for this guy to be Dread Guard Outer (Which he IS), and hate the Queen and love the King as he does. Faction hits in EQ1 indicate he SHOULD lean towards teh Queen rather than the King, but as stated neither of the 3 factions are what I would consider loyal. The whole faction issue aside, it has nothing to do with the Priests of Innoruuk wanting to kill King Naythox, nor does it in any way indicate they did have an hand in it. You must not have read a lot of in-game books. There are spelling errors and grammatical errors EVERYWHERE.Are you sugesting that Jaron95 wrote these himself and is trying to hoodwink us into beleiveing they are actual in-game volumes, when they are not?I have no reason to doubt him. __________________ ---------------------- Don't you get it?! You see the hat? I am Mrs. Nesbit!!

11-15-2004, 10:40 PM	#1
uronc Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Has anyone found details on this war. In beta, I played a High Elf in Qeynos and remember meeting someone who spoke about this war but can't remember details. (I am in Freeport now.) How long ago was it? Does it have a specific name? I think I remember the dwarves coming to the rescue but I am not sure. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

11-16-2004, 02:37 AM	#2
iceriven2 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 632	there is a wood elf in willow wood. She sits at a grave yard morning the loss. She tells the story well, some of it. Short version. Orcs attack wood elves and keep them busy. Dark elf ships appaer out of now where(she says it was porb a portal) but a portal from the ground appaers at the spires and legions of dragoons come out. War goes on for many seasons(years a assume) The high elves and wood else are putting up a fight but loosing. finally the dwarves and gnomes with there clockwork army appaer and save the day. Princes Queen (name)(srry can't remember but the duaghter of the king since king was killed) repairs what is lost. Don't know what happened next b/c the npc left fay shortly after that.

11-17-2004, 12:57 AM	#3
JudeMorrig General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5	There's a rather bitter dark elf in Longshadow who talks about it also. I don't recall what her name is, but she's in one of the small houses along the ally itself (rather than the central region.)

11-18-2004, 03:19 AM	#5
Kamimura Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,964	Whats happening in Neriak is something I really want to find out..

11-18-2004, 12:45 PM	#7
Slavad Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	So if the Teir'Dal lost, then what happened to Faydwer?

11-18-2004, 06:15 PM	#8
band09 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1	Smart money is on Faydwer being an expansion pack.

11-19-2004, 10:07 AM	#9
Slavad Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Hah yeah sounds about right. Well as long as Crushbone enters the game eventually I'll be satisfied.

11-20-2004, 12:13 AM	#10
TB Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 8	Hey if we got Blackburrow, I'm pretty sure Crushbone would be with that.

02-19-2005, 02:43 AM	#11
Maelynia Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 32	Sorry to dig up an old thread, BUT, I was told a few nights ago that Neriak’s priests played a treacherous hand in the death of Naythox Thex, king of Neriak, when he went to war against the light elves in Faydark. This info was read "somewhere" by this player, but I have not come across it. Have any of you?I only have slim details just as mentioned in above posts - that the Teir`Dal were winning until the Dwarves jumped in and caused the Teir`Dal to withdraw. The Teir`Dal forces were scattered and somewhere in there, Naythox was killed. If the priests back-stabbed the king, this is the first I’ve heard of it. Just curious if any of you have heard this. I need to do more of those history/tome quests! I am curious as to why the priests would do that, as per EQ1 lore, they were more aligned with the King, not the Queen. Maybe it was a rogue priest? If anyone knows of this or comes across any solid info, please let me know. Most of what I have found are vague details of the war along with various timelines.Thanks!

02-19-2005, 07:25 PM	#13
Eb0n Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 42	The lore section of my guild has the compieled story from the sources in game.Check here.http://housemaelthra.eq2guilds.orgHouse Maelthra - An EverQuest II Guild Message Edited by Eb0n on 02-19-2005 06:26 AM

02-28-2005, 10:00 PM	#15
Maelynia Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 32	I share you thoughts, Maguu. At this point, I'm just assuming that the player that told me the priests were responsible for the king's death was misinformed. I have been unable to find anything to prove otherwise.

03-01-2005, 01:11 AM	#17
Kryussius Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 284	Actually, from what I recall, the Indigo Brotherhood was loyal to the King, while the priests were loyal to the Queen. Basically, look at the split of where the guildhalls were in old Neriak: Warriors, Magi, Wizards, and Enchanters were all in Neriak Commons (Loyal to the King). Priests, The Dead (Necromancers and Shadow Knights), and Rogues were in Third Gate (loyal to the Queen). So it's possible that the priests/priestesses of Innoruuk caused the King's death at the beheadst of the Queen before she sealed Neriak. __________________

03-01-2005, 02:25 AM	#18
Maguu Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45	Kryussius wrote: Actually, from what I recall, the Indigo Brotherhood was loyal to the King, while the priests were loyal to the Queen. Basically, look at the split of where the guildhalls were in old Neriak: Warriors, Magi, Wizards, and Enchanters were all in Neriak Commons (Loyal to the King). Priests, The Dead (Necromancers and Shadow Knights), and Rogues were in Third Gate (loyal to the Queen). So it's possible that the priests/priestesses of Innoruuk caused the King's death at the beheadst of the Queen before she sealed Neriak. I dont' thikn the locations is particularly relevant, other than that the mage/chanter/wizard guilds and warrior guilds being together has a minor connection in that those casting guilds were called the spurned, as they were shunned by Dark elves who were Innoruuk worshippers, the Warriors were also not particuarly well loved by many of the others in Neriak. Quest faction hits in EQ1 indicated the Priests allegience to the king rather clearly, in my opinion. Also, as another note, people on Spurned faction were often KOS in the guild hall of the necros and SK's. But the rogues, on the other hand, while not usually KOS, they had no open claims of alliance or otherwise towards any Neriak guilds, they only hated most other rogue guilds, especially non-evil ones. I really can't say if they preferred King or Queen, on that point I'm not certain. One thing I think we can all agree on is that Neriak politics is incredibly confusing, this is quite intentional.

03-01-2005, 03:33 AM	#19
Kamimura Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,964	The Priests of Innrouuk were indeed loyal to King Naythox Thex. When you started out and handed in your guild note the faction changed made this clear, along with other quest faction changes.

03-01-2005, 10:52 AM	#20
Maguu Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45	Aye that would be the faction hits for the Innoruuk necklace quest for clerics