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Unread 12-24-2006, 03:27 PM   #1
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because if you do, you'll never go back.. it's highly addictive.
 
Anything less than 50% runspeed now feels like swimming in frozen tar.
 
And remember that Enchanced Sow + Jboots + Droag Scale Swill = 100% run speed.. it's just crazy
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Unread 12-25-2006, 09:04 AM   #2
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heh, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] you. i went and got 8 aas & finished my rusty jboots on my mystic to check this out. dang 60% unmounted is addictive. specially as a dorf.
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Unread 12-25-2006, 08:09 PM   #3
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Simply put it is one of the best solo / small group / full group / raid all around utility AA we have. The only negative Ive even heard has been from other classes. With 5 AA  - 50% run speed AND 25% damage reduction on a fall......

Thank you SoE for giving the mystic an AA every mystic should agree is must have, or really want.

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Unread 12-25-2006, 11:33 PM   #4
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It's funny, in beta most of us found this AA to be an insulting filler skill in a mostly useless and underwhelming class AA system. But now everybody loves it and it's a must-have. I have some points in it since I went down the buff line anyway, and I admit it is fun to run fast all the time. But it's still kind of sad that this is what constitutes pretty much the only positive-enough-to-post-about AA in our whole line :smileysad:.
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Unread 12-26-2006, 01:47 AM   #5
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i think most classes got jacked on the new AAs, with a few exceptions. the one thing about playing a mystic - because i started at launch with one - it's pretty hard for me to get down on the class for lack of anything since they fixed wards. if we don't get too many nifty AAs, oh well - class still works great for what it does. some of our class AAs are truly screwy, but some look pretty decent. the sow boost just makes playin my mystic a real treat now.funny story, i was in a sos group last night and after 10 mins or so of following around our SK, i decided to sow him. i didnt bother telling him tho, and sow landed just as he was trying to delicately inch into a full hall of droags. instead of "inching in", he shot across the room and pulled the whole thing back on us. after the near TPW, people were asking what happened and he was like "i dunno, think game ghosted or something", and i quietly giggled to myself. so... you might wanna let your pullers know they are wearin happy feet before you sow them.
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Unread 12-26-2006, 02:21 PM   #6
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what are jboots?
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Unread 12-26-2006, 02:23 PM   #7
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Journeyman Boots. While wearing them you'll get a 10% increase to your (unmounted) run speed.

It's the reward of a heritage quest.

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Unread 12-26-2006, 02:26 PM   #8
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oh nice SMILEY

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Unread 12-26-2006, 07:53 PM   #9
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So Sad.  :smileysad:

 

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Unread 12-27-2006, 08:58 AM   #11
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SonnyA wrote:

Journeyman Boots. While wearing them you'll get a 10% increase to your (unmounted) run speed.

It's the reward of a heritage quest.


Actually, I only have the 40% horse, but with a few points in the sow enhance AA plus jboots i hit 48% run speed, and with or without the horse on, that's my speed. Fastest speed, be it your mount or your total run speed even with the mount, is what is counted.
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Unread 12-27-2006, 12:34 PM   #12
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i just can't tell, i've tried swapin carpet out a few times to see if it looks like i'm goin faster. thing is i know i'm definately not goin slower on foot.  and it appears i'm goin a lot faster on foot, and i hate the carpet thing so... on foot i go.
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Unread 12-27-2006, 02:10 PM   #13
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Haha, yeah. Its awsome. Saves me a lot of plat/status for a horse and i dont have to dismount when climbing. Its so great since there are some distances to go with EoF. Its even more addictive with the druid where you have the portals too. My warden outrunned all the new horses with the droag swill and SoW adding up to 85%. They called me cheater SMILEY But i almost never use it in combat. Its dangerous SMILEY
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Unread 12-27-2006, 03:30 PM   #14
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Mystique wrote:


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Journeyman Boots. While wearing them you'll get a 10% increase to your (unmounted) run speed.

It's the reward of a heritage quest.



Actually, I only have the 40% horse, but with a few points in the sow enhance AA plus jboots i hit 48% run speed, and with or without the horse on, that's my speed. Fastest speed, be it your mount or your total run speed even with the mount, is what is counted.


But Jboots doesn't stack with mounts. Your actual run speed (mounted or unmounted) will always be the fastest of your mounted or unmounted speed. And sow and jboots doesn't add to your mounts speed.

So if standard SoW is 23% and you have three AA points (+15%)  and Jboots (+10%), that would add up to 48%.

There is absolutely nothing positive about being on a mount if it doesn't increase your speed. It's only a movement hindrance. You get a lot better control unmounted.

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Unread 12-27-2006, 05:04 PM   #15
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SonnyA wrote:


Mystique wrote:


SonnyA wrote:

Journeyman Boots. While wearing them you'll get a 10% increase to your (unmounted) run speed.

It's the reward of a heritage quest.



Actually, I only have the 40% horse, but with a few points in the sow enhance AA plus jboots i hit 48% run speed, and with or without the horse on, that's my speed. Fastest speed, be it your mount or your total run speed even with the mount, is what is counted.


But Jboots doesn't stack with mounts. Your actual run speed (mounted or unmounted) will always be the fastest of your mounted or unmounted speed. And sow and jboots doesn't add to your mounts speed.

So if standard SoW is 23% and you have three AA points (+15%)  and Jboots (+10%), that would add up to 48%.

There is absolutely nothing positive about being on a mount if it doesn't increase your speed. It's only a movement hindrance. You get a lot better control unmounted.




I disagree. Depending on your mount (ie status mounts) they offer boosts to resists and other defences. An extra 200 to all resists when on a mist runner can make a huge difference in places like EH, if you know how to ride.

I do agree that a mount will only go at its default speed, SoW and Jboots do not stack while mounted. Do not trust your prosana window to give an accurate account of your actual in game speed. For example ride a griffin, or horsey in LF. Your speed is shown as 1%, yet you can bet your bottom dollar your traveling faster.

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My personal opinion is that the 200 resists aren't worth the hampered rearward movement and inducing more lag for some of my fellows with less powerful computers.
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Unread 12-28-2006, 01:58 PM   #17
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yes, its sad that it prolly is our best eof aayes, it is definitely absolutely addictiveyes, its fun just to jump down all ledges in gfay and stuff SMILEYand dont forget, you run the same speed forward AND backwards ... which rocks hardcore SMILEY
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Unread 12-30-2006, 10:43 AM   #18
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SonnyA wrote:

Mystique wrote:

SonnyA wrote:

Journeyman Boots. While wearing them you'll get a 10% increase to your (unmounted) run speed.

It's the reward of a heritage quest.


Actually, I only have the 40% horse, but with a few points in the sow enhance AA plus jboots i hit 48% run speed, and with or without the horse on, that's my speed. Fastest speed, be it your mount or your total run speed even with the mount, is what is counted.

But Jboots doesn't stack with mounts. Your actual run speed (mounted or unmounted) will always be the fastest of your mounted or unmounted speed. And sow and jboots doesn't add to your mounts speed.

So if standard SoW is 23% and you have three AA points (+15%)  and Jboots (+10%), that would add up to 48%.

There is absolutely nothing positive about being on a mount if it doesn't increase your speed. It's only a movement hindrance. You get a lot better control unmounted.


Since run speed has been pushed to the client for a while now, you can see your exact run speed all the time in game in the persona window. This information has been  clearly displayed in the ProfitUI mod at least as long, if not longer, sorry my memory defies me.Your fastest run speed is just that, your fastest run speed comprised of every run buff that stacks with each other.Three points in enhance SoW, which brings it to +38% run speed + Jboots gives me 48% run speed, period. The mount doesn't matter in the slightest. Sure, this is a hard difference to eyeball with any assurance, but that's where my Assassin comes into play.The Assassin AA that enhances Sprint run speed adds 25% to the run speed. Sprint is 40% base speed boost and does NOT stack with anything - it's either faster than what you've got or it's ignored like you didn't even hit it.The fastest I can currently run (without that Droag Swill stuff) on my Assassin is +66% run speed, which appears to be the boosted 65% Sprint plus some weird SOE math adding the extra 1%. It could be some interaction with Pathfinding, SoW, who knows. What I do know is that 66% doesn't change whether I'm on a mount or not, and I can definately tell when I'm going 48% vs. 66%.
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I SoW random people because I'm mean.  I know it will wear off in 30 minutes and they will feel a profound sense of loss.:smileysad:

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I SOW random people whenever I see them.      The first one is free..........

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Xan Xen wrote:

I SoW random people because I'm mean.  I know it will wear off in 30 minutes and they will feel a profound sense of loss.:smileysad:


ROFL....brilliant :smileyvery-happy:
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Xan Xen wrote:

I SoW random people because I'm mean.  I know it will wear off in 30 minutes and they will feel a profound sense of loss.:smileysad:


i do the same SMILEY especially on the eof-boats its nice, got many tells that they never got so fast through butcherblock SMILEY
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    I have yet to go into the AA enhance line, but even at normal with jboots and Sow it's at 50%.  Now drink Droag swill and then let the race begin. Have done this a few times, and actually it's fun watching myself run past the blue spirit horses and carpets. I'm giggling the entire time, and hoping that they "inspect" me.      It hurts to slow down though, so I have to agree it's addictive.  Have to be really careful though in Greater Fay, since there's so many cliffs and the tree city. Don't want to fall, and break my neck. :smileyvery-happy:
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I am sure SOW AA is great for people that arent in a level 60 guild and cannot afford the horse with 50% run speed increase. I however would rather have something that actually helped for combat or raids. Defilers got a ward that increses in amount according to their total HP. That is functional. We get rez timer decreases, SOW increases, Decreased mana charge for rez spells, some stupid damage spells, and the only one that is worth a crap, the Bolster time increase AA. IMHO we got the shaft on AA. The ward that my Defiler friend has is for 8k. That is something worth having, and it helps to save the MT in raids. SOW? WOW
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Goldmember. wrote:I am sure SOW AA is great for people that arent in a level 60 guild and cannot afford the horse with 50% run speed increase. I however would rather have something that actually helped for combat or raids. Defilers got a ward that increses in amount according to their total HP. That is functional. We get rez timer decreases, SOW increases, Decreased mana charge for rez spells, some stupid damage spells, and the only one that is worth a crap, the Bolster time increase AA. IMHO we got the shaft on AA. The ward that my Defiler friend has is for 8k. That is something worth having, and it helps to save the MT in raids. SOW? WOW

You are comparing a 5 min recast END line ability that has a 20 point prerequsitive to a simple AA enhancement?   But I do agree, Defilers got some nice end AAs.
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Ariellelia wrote:      It hurts to slow down though, so I have to agree it's addictive.  Have to be really careful though in Greater Fay, since there's so many cliffs and the tree city. Don't want to fall, and break my neck. :smileyvery-happy:
here the enhanced sow steps in again, with 5 points in it you get a -25% in falling damage ... i run straight through GFay and even jump before falling down the cliffs and never ever lost more than half my hps SMILEY
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