How high is your wisdom :)

Ox · 04-02-2005, 04:34 PM

Currently at 45, with my buffs, I got it up to 231.

I thought the more wis we have, the more power we will get, but doesn't seem to be true... didn't see a huge jump in power for me.

Any ideas ?

Bolr · 04-02-2005, 05:22 PM

231? Heh, at 45, mine is 99.

SuperSoldier1 · 04-02-2005, 10:00 PM

at 37 unbuffed mine is at 117, and yes it is supposed to give us power, says so in the personal tab when you put the curser over wisdom

Kalam · 04-02-2005, 11:59 PM

94 Wis at lvl 45. Yeah I suck, but then again I've never been wrapped up in Wis. Maybe I'm just stuck in my EQ1 Shaman mentality of HP/AC > Wis (Shaman was my alt .. I actually played a Magician heh).

In my experience at lvl 45, 1 Wis = 3 Power.

sardi · 04-03-2005, 12:41 AM

i've got 103 wis at 41.

Chanliang · 04-03-2005, 01:32 AM

Currently at 45, with my buffs, I got it up to 231????? Definetly ain't self buffed or I'm making something wrong... 109 at 35 with quite how wis stuff. With couple items could propably get 120-130.

Mystiq · 04-03-2005, 09:27 AM

The OP's wisdom value does seem a little suspect. None of our buffs actually give any wisdom, so....with all of my wis gear plus an imbued bloodstone ring with the Gleam of Wisdom castable buff my wisdom is 203 at level 50. Once your wis gets above 200 (maybe even lower) the return on power per wisdom point diminishes by a lot. This is true for all stats, they're soft capped. I wouldn't bother trying to focus too much on + wis gear once you get in the 190 range. I'd focus on other stats that you've neglected, as they all play a role in a well-balanced character.

Regards,

Ox · 04-03-2005, 01:20 PM

sorry, let me make myself clear as what i meant by self-buffed, and my wis is really that high. No bluffing.

1. Anicnet Oath Buff

2. Imbued Ring Buff

3. Potion Buff

And yes, we do have our own spell that buff our wis at lvl 40. The one and only one.

I am a wis freak , so every single part of my equipment has wis on it. My weapon has +18 wis.
And a lot of the items from the new adventure pack give you +wis item, even tho they are grey , it is still good.

Also at the bracelet part, you can get the Bracelete of Wrethed, which is +8wis, which is hard to find.

The point i was try to make is that, it seem +wis give u very little power. But if you get an item with +power on it, it does more good to ur power than your wis.
For example, I have a +25 power +6 wis hammer, then I switchd to the +18 wis, that has no +power, and I thought the wis will make up the lose of power, but
I was wrong. It just seem to me that +wis has so little effect on our power than the item that actually has + power on.

And ya, hi Eloora, the no.1 mystic SMILEY you da bomb.

Message Edited by Oxyi on 04-03-2005 01:34 AM

Ox · 04-03-2005, 01:32 PM

And yea, with my wis equipments, unbuffed, wis = 210.

Really thought wis is the most important thing for healers, but I guess im wrong.

Merrygr · 04-03-2005, 03:26 PM

At lvl 45 (and with about 120 wis) I get 4 power for each point of wis.

Mystiq · 04-03-2005, 07:02 PM

Oxyi wrote:

sorry, let me make myself clear as what i meant by self-buffed, and my wis is really that high. No bluffing.

1. Anicnet Oath Buff

2. Imbued Ring Buff

3. Potion Buff

And yes, we do have our own spell that buff our wis at lvl 40. The one and only one.

I am a wis freak , so every single part of my equipment has wis on it. My weapon has +18 wis.
And a lot of the items from the new adventure pack give you +wis item, even tho they are grey , it is still good.

Also at the bracelet part, you can get the Bracelete of Wrethed, which is +8wis, which is hard to find.

The point i was try to make is that, it seem +wis give u very little power. But if you get an item with +power on it, it does more good to ur power than your wis.
For example, I have a +25 power +6 wis hammer, then I switchd to the +18 wis, that has no +power, and I thought the wis will make up the lose of power, but
I was wrong. It just seem to me that +wis has so little effect on our power than the item that actually has + power on.

And ya, hi Eloora, the no.1 mystic you da bomb.

Message Edited by Oxyi on 04-03-2005 01:34 AM

I see what you're saying now. And the reason I said we had no buffs for wis is because my guild required me to take the group cure at that level, and I didn't bother to look at what I'd be missing. The group cure (except for maybe trauma) are infinitely more valuable than any of the other choices if you ever plan on killing mobs harder than exp trash.

Wisdom is still the most important stat for a priest, you're not really wrong. It's just that, as I said, it is soft capped like all other stats at 200, and only gives about 1.5 power per wisdom point. Sure, you can raise it till the cows come home if that makes you happy, but you'll have a diminished return for your efforts.

I don't know what kind of guild you're in or what content you're killing, but if you are raiding or will be soon, I'd suggest refocusing on power regen items. I have about 4 or so items that give me power regen in and out of combat. I haven't gone out of power since like January thanks to rather unchallenging end game content, but if I was having trouble with power, power regen is what I'd focus on, not wisdom.

Banditman · 04-04-2005, 05:38 PM

Power regen > *

If you are regen'ing fast enough it doesn't matter how big your overall pool is.

That said, a larger pool does in fact yield a faster regen.

ChristopherK · 04-04-2005, 09:12 PM

At 50 with GEBS, Robe Invoker, and Prismatic your in battle regen is +52. With most raid + crafted items and some other class wis buffs you'll hit the 200 softcap easy (the prismatic has +10sta +25wis and a couple epic idols have +18 +22wis) So, I started working on Stamina and Agility for my next focus of items.

CrazyM · 04-05-2005, 12:43 AM

Ancient Oath? I don't have that that I am aware of at 41. Did I miss something?

disru · 04-05-2005, 12:45 AM

It was one of the level 40 training choices, still far better to pick group cure arcane imo.

Message Edited by disrupt on 04-04-2005 01:46 PM

Lunacy · 04-05-2005, 03:29 AM

lvl 42, 124 wis

Muad`D · 04-05-2005, 06:45 AM

level 48 with 143 unbuffed wisdom.

dennis · 04-05-2005, 03:15 PM

@ lvl 35 mine is 102 buffed, I think its around 95 unbuffed

Ox · 04-09-2005, 03:26 PM

Yap power regen is sweet, but I got none ><

250 on wis is doable now, with 2 +12wis doll.

But with 250wis, don't really see any positive effect, I think with more agi and stuff, at least i get to have a higher avoidance rate

and with more wis, doesn't seem to make me any smarter or more effective heal at any way..

DejaaVous · 04-10-2005, 01:30 AM

Soooo stop buying wis items?

Just a thought

Wzierbovs · 04-10-2005, 05:40 AM

Practically and in normal situations - my WIS is 205, total power 2950. Level 50 Mystic here. This is just using personal spell buffs only, no potion usage. I'm using double Ancient Slayer Rings (+9), Tarton's Wheel (+10), Rallosian Chestguard (+12), Prismatic Sceptre (+25), GEB (+11), Tobrin's Eyepatch (+11), Manifested Terror Leggings (+9), and just one hex doll (+11) - I need to keep the other secondary slot free for Manastone. It is indeed possible to go higher than this - e.g. wearing Deidre's Pants (+9 WIS but higher power - not sure) - but IMO that's not much point, given the tradeoffs between power versus additional WIS points and the cost of the item itself. Also, one could get a second WIS doll, and consuming all kinds of food and potion buffs - but I honestly haven't found the need to do that yet. Power regen - as already stated elsewhere here - is everything.

Message Edited by Wzierbovsky on 04-10-2005 12:55 AM

Syn · 04-10-2005, 07:48 AM

I'm still a rather young mystic (well--pre-mystic, anyway), but I don't remember seeing any items that say anything about power regen. Is there a certain level at which these begin to appear? Or have they been marked and I misread them? Just trying to plan for the future :smileyhappy:

Wzierbovs · 04-10-2005, 11:44 AM

The power-regen items tend to become availabe via questing in the higher levels. For instance, Golden Efreeti Lords that you obtain via heritage quest, wearable from level 42 onwards, and gives +20 per tic power regen. There's also the Prismatic Sceptre of the Scale, given via a quest reward from Naggy for completing Deception, and gives +12 per tic power regen.

Ironmaul1 · 04-10-2005, 03:40 PM

Message Edited by Ironmaul1 on 04-10-2005 07:32 AM

ChristopherK · 04-11-2005, 08:39 PM

Dude

... Download Irfanview and crop that picture....

And with all that wisdom, that is a sad power pull. Mine is over 3000 with less than 150 wisdom.

Message Edited by ChristopherKee on 04-11-2005 12:41 PM

Zav · 04-12-2005, 08:15 PM

Ironmaul1 how did you manage a 90% avoidance rating? (photoshop?)

Or is it possible?

ume · 04-12-2005, 09:02 PM

I was wondering the same thing. Please tell us your secret SMILEY

Ironmaul1 · 04-13-2005, 04:45 AM

For Christopher.I dont really need a huge power pool,I have several mana regen items and also I didnt have my master Bear form on.

as far as photoshop goes, I cant even crop photos (

90% avoidence, I accually didnt see this till later on.Ill look now to see what grp makeup I was in, Im sure most of it was buffed.

Looks like I had a Troubador in da grp

Message Edited by Ironmaul1 on 04-12-2005 05:47 PM

Zav · 04-13-2005, 05:31 PM

Ironmaul1 wrote:

Looks like I had a Troubador in da grp

Note to self: Get a pet Troubador.

Banditman · 04-13-2005, 05:55 PM

I smell a nerf bat.

04-02-2005, 11:59 PM	#4
Kalam Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 189	94 Wis at lvl 45. Yeah I suck, but then again I've never been wrapped up in Wis. Maybe I'm just stuck in my EQ1 Shaman mentality of HP/AC > Wis (Shaman was my alt .. I actually played a Magician heh). In my experience at lvl 45, 1 Wis = 3 Power. __________________ Yahelas - Mystic Crushbone Server Inner Sanctum

04-03-2005, 09:27 AM	#7
Mystiq General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 698	The OP's wisdom value does seem a little suspect. None of our buffs actually give any wisdom, so....with all of my wis gear plus an imbued bloodstone ring with the Gleam of Wisdom castable buff my wisdom is 203 at level 50. Once your wis gets above 200 (maybe even lower) the return on power per wisdom point diminishes by a lot. This is true for all stats, they're soft capped. I wouldn't bother trying to focus too much on + wis gear once you get in the 190 range. I'd focus on other stats that you've neglected, as they all play a role in a well-balanced character. Regards, __________________

04-03-2005, 01:20 PM	#8
Ox Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	sorry, let me make myself clear as what i meant by self-buffed, and my wis is really that high. No bluffing. 1. Anicnet Oath Buff 2. Imbued Ring Buff 3. Potion Buff And yes, we do have our own spell that buff our wis at lvl 40. The one and only one. I am a wis freak , so every single part of my equipment has wis on it. My weapon has +18 wis. And a lot of the items from the new adventure pack give you +wis item, even tho they are grey , it is still good. Also at the bracelet part, you can get the Bracelete of Wrethed, which is +8wis, which is hard to find. The point i was try to make is that, it seem +wis give u very little power. But if you get an item with +power on it, it does more good to ur power than your wis. For example, I have a +25 power +6 wis hammer, then I switchd to the +18 wis, that has no +power, and I thought the wis will make up the lose of power, but I was wrong. It just seem to me that +wis has so little effect on our power than the item that actually has + power on. And ya, hi Eloora, the no.1 mystic you da bomb. Message Edited by Oxyi on 04-03-2005 01:34 AM

04-03-2005, 07:02 PM	#11
Mystiq General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 698	Oxyi wrote: sorry, let me make myself clear as what i meant by self-buffed, and my wis is really that high. No bluffing. 1. Anicnet Oath Buff 2. Imbued Ring Buff 3. Potion Buff And yes, we do have our own spell that buff our wis at lvl 40. The one and only one. I am a wis freak , so every single part of my equipment has wis on it. My weapon has +18 wis. And a lot of the items from the new adventure pack give you +wis item, even tho they are grey , it is still good. Also at the bracelet part, you can get the Bracelete of Wrethed, which is +8wis, which is hard to find. The point i was try to make is that, it seem +wis give u very little power. But if you get an item with +power on it, it does more good to ur power than your wis. For example, I have a +25 power +6 wis hammer, then I switchd to the +18 wis, that has no +power, and I thought the wis will make up the lose of power, but I was wrong. It just seem to me that +wis has so little effect on our power than the item that actually has + power on. And ya, hi Eloora, the no.1 mystic you da bomb. Message Edited by Oxyi on 04-03-2005 01:34 AM I see what you're saying now. And the reason I said we had no buffs for wis is because my guild required me to take the group cure at that level, and I didn't bother to look at what I'd be missing. The group cure (except for maybe trauma) are infinitely more valuable than any of the other choices if you ever plan on killing mobs harder than exp trash. Wisdom is still the most important stat for a priest, you're not really wrong. It's just that, as I said, it is soft capped like all other stats at 200, and only gives about 1.5 power per wisdom point. Sure, you can raise it till the cows come home if that makes you happy, but you'll have a diminished return for your efforts. I don't know what kind of guild you're in or what content you're killing, but if you are raiding or will be soon, I'd suggest refocusing on power regen items. I have about 4 or so items that give me power regen in and out of combat. I haven't gone out of power since like January thanks to rather unchallenging end game content, but if I was having trouble with power, power regen is what I'd focus on, not wisdom. __________________

04-04-2005, 05:38 PM	#12
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	Power regen > * If you are regen'ing fast enough it doesn't matter how big your overall pool is. That said, a larger pool does in fact yield a faster regen. __________________

04-02-2005, 04:34 PM	#1
Ox Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	Currently at 45, with my buffs, I got it up to 231. I thought the more wis we have, the more power we will get, but doesn't seem to be true... didn't see a huge jump in power for me. Any ideas ?

04-02-2005, 05:22 PM	#2
Bolr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 72	231? Heh, at 45, mine is 99.

04-02-2005, 10:00 PM	#3
SuperSoldier1 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 10	at 37 unbuffed mine is at 117, and yes it is supposed to give us power, says so in the personal tab when you put the curser over wisdom

04-03-2005, 12:41 AM	#5
sardi Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 16	i've got 103 wis at 41.

04-03-2005, 01:32 AM	#6
Chanliang Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 198	Currently at 45, with my buffs, I got it up to 231????? Definetly ain't self buffed or I'm making something wrong... 109 at 35 with quite how wis stuff. With couple items could propably get 120-130.

04-03-2005, 01:32 PM	#9
Ox Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	And yea, with my wis equipments, unbuffed, wis = 210. Really thought wis is the most important thing for healers, but I guess im wrong.

04-03-2005, 03:26 PM	#10
Merrygr General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 132	At lvl 45 (and with about 120 wis) I get 4 power for each point of wis.

04-04-2005, 09:12 PM	#13
ChristopherK Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 85	At 50 with GEBS, Robe Invoker, and Prismatic your in battle regen is +52. With most raid + crafted items and some other class wis buffs you'll hit the 200 softcap easy (the prismatic has +10sta +25wis and a couple epic idols have +18 +22wis) So, I started working on Stamina and Agility for my next focus of items.

04-05-2005, 12:43 AM	#14
CrazyM Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 22	Ancient Oath? I don't have that that I am aware of at 41. Did I miss something?

04-05-2005, 12:45 AM	#15
disru Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 285	It was one of the level 40 training choices, still far better to pick group cure arcane imo. Message Edited by disrupt on 04-04-2005 01:46 PM __________________ Please go voice your disdain for Mystic nerfage here!

04-05-2005, 03:29 AM	#16
Lunacy General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2	lvl 42, 124 wis

04-05-2005, 06:45 AM	#17
Muad`D General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 72	level 48 with 143 unbuffed wisdom. __________________ 50 Human Mystic Kithicor Server

04-05-2005, 03:15 PM	#18
dennis General Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 37	@ lvl 35 mine is 102 buffed, I think its around 95 unbuffed __________________ Askecia d'Highkeep lvl. 70 Mystic lvl 70 Jeweler

04-09-2005, 03:26 PM	#19
Ox Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	Yap power regen is sweet, but I got none >< 250 on wis is doable now, with 2 +12wis doll. But with 250wis, don't really see any positive effect, I think with more agi and stuff, at least i get to have a higher avoidance rate and with more wis, doesn't seem to make me any smarter or more effective heal at any way..

04-10-2005, 01:30 AM	#20
DejaaVous Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 27	Soooo stop buying wis items? Just a thought

04-10-2005, 05:40 AM	#21
Wzierbovs Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 21	Practically and in normal situations - my WIS is 205, total power 2950. Level 50 Mystic here. This is just using personal spell buffs only, no potion usage. I'm using double Ancient Slayer Rings (+9), Tarton's Wheel (+10), Rallosian Chestguard (+12), Prismatic Sceptre (+25), GEB (+11), Tobrin's Eyepatch (+11), Manifested Terror Leggings (+9), and just one hex doll (+11) - I need to keep the other secondary slot free for Manastone. It is indeed possible to go higher than this - e.g. wearing Deidre's Pants (+9 WIS but higher power - not sure) - but IMO that's not much point, given the tradeoffs between power versus additional WIS points and the cost of the item itself. Also, one could get a second WIS doll, and consuming all kinds of food and potion buffs - but I honestly haven't found the need to do that yet. Power regen - as already stated elsewhere here - is everything. Message Edited by Wzierbovsky on 04-10-2005 12:55 AM __________________ Taffin / 60 Mystic / Najena - Legion

04-10-2005, 07:48 AM	#22
Syn Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 8	I'm still a rather young mystic (well--pre-mystic, anyway), but I don't remember seeing any items that say anything about power regen. Is there a certain level at which these begin to appear? Or have they been marked and I misread them? Just trying to plan for the future :smileyhappy: __________________ The Definitive Guide to Entertainment Spells Station Exchange -- So long, and thanks for all the fish...

04-10-2005, 11:44 AM	#23
Wzierbovs Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 21	The power-regen items tend to become availabe via questing in the higher levels. For instance, Golden Efreeti Lords that you obtain via heritage quest, wearable from level 42 onwards, and gives +20 per tic power regen. There's also the Prismatic Sceptre of the Scale, given via a quest reward from Naggy for completing Deception, and gives +12 per tic power regen. __________________ Taffin / 60 Mystic / Najena - Legion

04-10-2005, 03:40 PM	#24
Ironmaul1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23	Message Edited by Ironmaul1 on 04-10-2005 07:32 AM __________________

04-11-2005, 08:39 PM	#25
ChristopherK Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 85	Dude ... Download Irfanview and crop that picture.... And with all that wisdom, that is a sad power pull. Mine is over 3000 with less than 150 wisdom. Message Edited by ChristopherKee on 04-11-2005 12:41 PM

04-12-2005, 08:15 PM	#26
Zav General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 72	Ironmaul1 how did you manage a 90% avoidance rating? (photoshop?) Or is it possible?

04-12-2005, 09:02 PM	#27
ume Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 201	I was wondering the same thing. Please tell us your secret __________________ Undefeatable- 70 Bruiser-21 Tailor Indestructable-33 Fury-42 WoodWorker Unbreakable-29 Necro-38 Sage Unbeatable - 14 Assassin-37 Alchemist Cabb-29 Dirge

04-13-2005, 04:45 AM	#28
Ironmaul1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23	For Christopher.I dont really need a huge power pool,I have several mana regen items and also I didnt have my master Bear form on. as far as photoshop goes, I cant even crop photos ( 90% avoidence, I accually didnt see this till later on.Ill look now to see what grp makeup I was in, Im sure most of it was buffed. Looks like I had a Troubador in da grp Message Edited by Ironmaul1 on 04-12-2005 05:47 PM __________________

04-13-2005, 05:31 PM	#29
Zav General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 72	Ironmaul1 wrote: Looks like I had a Troubador in da grp Note to self: Get a pet Troubador.

04-13-2005, 05:55 PM	#30
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	I smell a nerf bat. __________________