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Unread 06-06-2005, 10:00 PM   #1
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Hi All,
 
I have a new Character that i made a Druid, can anyone tell me if the Fury will be a good pick for her?  Can u tell me does this require a betrayl quest?  Thanks for any info.! :smileyhappy:
 
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Unread 06-06-2005, 11:30 PM   #2
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I am interested in this question as well to some degree as my druid just hit 18.
 
I do know that druid --> warden or fury can be done in either city so no betrayal quest is needed.
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Unread 06-06-2005, 11:55 PM   #3
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As it currently stands now, I wish that I had chosen a warden over a fury.  IMO, we give up too much healing ability for a lack of any definable edge in dps enhancement.  If you want to be the better *healing* class, definitely go Warden.  We do get group invis, which is very nice, but not until level 45.  This is not to say furies are useless, blah blah blah.

If the Combat / Healing patch ever goes live, and furies actually see an improvement, I would possibly make a different statement.  But as currently is, I wish I'd been a warden.

Only my opinion ...

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Unread 06-07-2005, 12:50 AM   #4
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I don't know.... I am perfectly fine with my Fury... little guy does just fine... sometime I let my brother play him... and he likes him too. I think my favorite part of being a fury is the huge number of proc buffs and thorns I can stack on people. Basically for a Duo I think the Fury is unequalled.... it has adequete healing... and it helps to add DPS... not only does it add DPS but some of it is through procs and the procs don't generate aggro on the Fury. For raids I think Fury is rare enough to be respected by most guilds on my server.. it's not we have 4 Wardens and 4 Furies what shoudl we add next Warden or Fury?  It's we have 4 wardens and 1 Fury...  or in my guilds case 2 Wardens and 0 Furies (1 is 2 boxed and therefore in our Alt guild "The Daunted") For a group I think the Fury makes a great 2nd Healer... because regens are gradual you can just regen and wait... where as a shaman has to ward and cleric takes backup heal.. this is erratic and the cleric never knows when he is going to have to heal.... but on top of that when you are not needed as backup healer you have DPS and some nice proc buffs. As a Primary healer in a 6 man group... true you are probably not the best....but you can get the job done.... a Warden will do a little better here I think. But really the main deciding factor should be "Can I turn into a giant freakin' badger?"  Fury = Yes... so Fury = teh pwn.
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Unread 06-07-2005, 03:37 AM   #5
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Claritin wrote:


Basically for a Duo I think the Fury is unequalled.... it has adequete healing... and it helps to add DPS... not only does it add DPS but some of it is through procs and the procs don't generate aggro on the Fury.


But really the main deciding factor should be "Can I turn into a giant freakin' badger?"  Fury = Yes... so Fury = teh pwn.



Fury also solos decently at higher levels for a healer.... something the other healers probably can't claim in the capacity that we can SMILEY

I like the fact that I don't see a ton of furies running around too... which makes me realize my uniqueness (*beaming*)

If you don't mind standing back and healing... go warden. (and a fine job they do, btw)  If you want to play a more active role, healing some and adding to melee/dps/procs etc, choose our beloved Fury ~~ I personally enjoy versatility.   I suppose it depends on what each person wants individually in a character.

And yessss the badger... ohhh the sweet, overstuffed, mammoth, in-yer-face presence of the badger! But... reason number 214,531 that Furies are 'teh pwnzor'....

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Unread 06-07-2005, 07:18 AM   #6
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Many people think Warden are better then Furies, I on the other hand do not agree with that. I think we are equally good. We furies shorten the fights with our offensive buffs while Wardens heal a bit better because their fight is longer. Off the 10 classes or so I've tried out I found the Fury way must fun, I love it. We solo pretty [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] well, I can easily kill solo reds without any trouble. And sure we maybe don't heal as good in some situations as the other priests but in some situations I think the fury is better at healing then other classes.Atleast if I were in your shoe and I was choosing between a Fury or a Warden I'd choose fury again.
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Unread 06-07-2005, 11:00 AM   #7
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Fury or warden...well, a warden in my guild asked me if i would re-roll given the choice...answer is HELL NO. Fury is great, if played well. We have some of the best debuffs, and our procs add alot of dps to a fight.A fury desnt really come into their own til later levels, but with the right sort of player behind them, they will add alot to a group.And dont listen to the people that say we are back up healers. I call BS on that...we can main heal just fine. I main healed from level 3-50 for the most part. As long as you can control your agro, then you have much to offer the group. And dont be afraid to meelee, get fae flames/fire and savagry/blodlust on the group, including you, and you will be suprised at your DPS you can do as a fury.For higher levels irritating swarm, bestly intimidation and deadly swarm (cant remember if thats the high one or not - highest one is best obviously), and your group will walk through most single group encounters. And dont get me started on raids. I love raiding as a fury...OMG!
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Unread 06-08-2005, 05:13 PM   #8
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I love playing a Fury. I don't play alts if i wanted to play another class i'd be playing it and not a Fury lol. I can solo decently, my melee procs add some decent dps. Our de-buffs seem to work well. We heal ok, i'm looking forward to when they balance our heals though. I haven't Raided yet aside from the 1 grp style so i can't comment there. Grp invis is [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] sweet imho. With adept1 and bugs aside only scouts have seen me thus far that i've noticed. In different zones i've had a couple issues where a mob non-scout has seen it. Nothing consistant to /bug yet. To the fellow asking about which spells to upgrade:  Heals/Debuffs followed by conc buffs and then our damage spells, eg starfire etc. That's my opinion of course, mileage may vary. -Jaevai Guildleader Dawn Breaker, Grobb edited this in lol  i'm a fulltime 49 Fury

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Unread 06-08-2005, 05:19 PM   #9
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I tend to disagree on the fact people say Warden > Fury ... Raid buffed im sitting at 4600 power .. Can solo lvl 50^^ toe to toe .. the dmg procs from our buffs own mobs.. Throw a little haste into the mix either with a chanter or haste items and your godly.. Healing is never an issue im utility healer in MT groups for any raid.. no prob there.. I Started out as an SK ,,, got to lvl 50 on that and I have a few Warden friends who Envy not being a Fury ...

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Unread 06-08-2005, 05:47 PM   #10
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My main is a Templar and I rolled up a Fury alt and have never looked back. I have seen wardens in action and I wouldn't want to reroll for anything. Playing a Fury has been such  a delightful experience even grinding through the levels again. While the sheer healing power can't match some of the other healing classes, the proc buffs, dps effects, and other unique Fury perks are just plain fun.
 
Comparing Templar to Fury soloing, its no contest... my Fury was doing better dps than my 50 Templar in her 20s probably or close to it SMILEY
 
Alot of people I know don't think Furys are that great or just have a bad image of them but they usually don't know what they're talking about. I definitely recommend Fury over Warden unless you just want to have some of the stronger heals; I personally don't feel its worth the sacrifice of all the other things a Fury has to offer.
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Unread 06-08-2005, 06:17 PM   #11
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Ok, I went fury SMILEY

 

Brand new Iksar fury was born last night.  Can't wait til he starts getting his fury specific spells but so far so good.

 

 

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Unread 06-09-2005, 02:30 AM   #12
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just wondering kimkim... what 50^^ are you soloing, and how? i can solo 46^^, but i suspect a 50 would kick my butt in about 30 seconds.
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Unread 06-09-2005, 02:24 PM   #13
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if you check his char he has some nice pieces of fabled armor.

I myself got some nice pieces too and quite a lot of master1's and can solo manticore terrorlord (47^^) with easy (with no kiting involved).

Havent tried a harder one yet but soon will.

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Unread 06-09-2005, 09:55 PM   #14
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I'm level 23 Fury, I heard some bad things about badgers, and rust monster, all forms we can eventually turn into..I haven't gotten there, but I like it, we seem to work well with any group, and can hold our own soloing...
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Unread 06-10-2005, 03:11 AM   #15
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I have higher stats, similar gear, and a lot of masters and the rest ad3 and i still can't solo a 50^^... i'm just curious what mob it was so i can feel uber and ill it too.
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Unread 06-10-2005, 08:35 AM   #16
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Endgame I can definetly tell you that Furies rock... the one aspect they attribute highly to in raids and such is the spell Irritating Swarm (at Master 1 lvl 50 it reduces a group encounter's agi by 36 and reduces all combat and offense spell skills by 9, thats just under 2 lvls!) and of course the Intimidation line reducing str and wis significantly on single targets.  Also the Master 1 regen mastered at 50 does 197 every 3.3 sec... this is not ultra significant, but helps alot while spamming heals and such... and hopefully with the healer patch fix regen will be improved significantly.
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Unread 06-10-2005, 08:52 PM   #17
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I have a 30 fury and i often duo with a 30 warden.  Both characters are GREAT FUN to play. We can do reds with ease, and when soloing in can take on yellows with very little down time.  I went fury cause I like the occasional nuke but whichever you pick you should be happy with.
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Unread 06-16-2005, 11:05 PM   #18
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When I hit 20 and it came down to it I went with a Fury because I like cats better than dogs :smileyvery-happy:  I was more of an offensive type of druid in EQ1 too so it fit my playstyle.  Also since I would be primarily duoing with my monk I figured the extra dps (which is a lot better than I imagined) would be more beneficial than better heals (the monk has mend anyway in a pinch).  I'm only 28 now but thus far I haven't regretted it a bit!
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Unread 06-17-2005, 03:36 AM   #19
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Just to cause some havoc.

I have a 47 warden and wouldnt change it.

The druid line is pretty fun however I think wardens solo heal slightly better but if you tend to group with a templar the fury would have the edge.

Our regens are rarely needed unless the damage is coming in too strong for the templars reactive, in that case the fury with dps buffs are helping the group more than a warden just nuking away.

 

 

 

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Just started  a fury  lvl 21 and she's great fun. I have lvl 50 templar and she didn't solo as well at simlar lvl, but the gear available then was much inferior to what you can buy/find now, no lambert/sanguine etc,so I not sure which is better, soloed a lot in feerott and everfrost 45-50 and had little difficulty killing things 2 lvls above me. 3-4 if undead . In a way I use same tactics on both. buff myself, debuff mob ho. rinse and reapeat.

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This seems like a common question.. but in the end I think play style and play style of your guild/groups  along with class mixtures makes more difference than Fury/Warden choice.  I think some of your groups aren't challenging yourself enough. I'm normally in a group of 5-6 with a templar.  Deaths are rare in that group, but I find myself needing to use tons of healing. Primarily I use the low power regrowth and Bloom a lot, with occasional use of the higher level versions. Typically I stay at high power for a long time then if the templar runs low I can start throwing out more stronger heals. When the group is fighting without me, they can handle most things, but deaths are more likely.  I'm definately not sitting twiddling my thumbs when in that group. Having me seems to help regulate the damage, making the templar's job much easier. I can solo orange stuff still and certain doubleup greens (though deadly slow), so solo ability seems fine. Often I don't need to heal during combat at all for the regular solo stuff. I would guess that Furies have similar results.  I'm personally a lvl47 warden and I like it because in groups I can do damage, healing, debuffing (barely but some), and buffing.  Looking at Furies though, I'd think that they can do the same thing. I'd been interested in trying a Fury in addition, but I'm not sure if there is enough of a difference to be worth the time/effort. Anyway.. it sounds like Furies and Wardens are pretty much equal but slightly counterbalanced with respect to offensive/defensive ability. What I'd really like is something more like an EQ1 Ranger...  druid/fighter mix. 

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Unread 06-23-2005, 02:23 PM   #22
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I could not decide between the two...So I made both.

My Fury solo's better...Mabye cuz he's troll, I dunno.

I enjoy my woodelf Warden quite a bit though as well.
 
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Unread 06-23-2005, 04:35 PM   #23
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I love my fury and would not trade him for a warden.  I was seriously tempted at lower levels - but Furies s 'come into their own' in the high-40s.  As a level 49 Fury, I am sufficient to be the solo healer in any group that I am in (anything that 6-level 48-50 can kill, I can heal through the fight.  The 30s were a very tough stretch - furies are a bit underpowered in those levels and this doesn't change until the mid-40s.

While I could actually solo-heal a group at most levels, some levels were harder than others.  In the mid-levels you needed a tough tank.  You also need to learn how to stack regens and debuffs to make it through fights.  They having to be on the ball helps make the class enjoyable.  Overall, a fury is a sufficient healer pretty much throughout the game and SOE is committed to keeping it that way.

At 45, Furies get a group invisibility.  This is one of the better spells in the game - useful for moving around the world and critical to guilds (jboots runs, getting around lavastorm, getting to cazic thule).  It changes a fury play-style fairly dramatically and places furies in high demand at top levels. 

At 50, Furies get a uber-damage shield (125 points of damage/hit?) instead of a heal.  IMO, this is a fairly important spell in raids to place on the primary tank. 

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Unread 06-23-2005, 05:54 PM   #24
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The fury pose a lot of attitude, atleast on paper, being an offencive healer that makes an impact. In reality I feel that most of the classes in the game, atleast within each subclass, are kind of watered out. The difference between the classes isn't as distinct as I've wished them to be, this is something I think i've read they will address in the combat revamp. Until then I'm satisfied with my fury, more because what image such a class gives than its abilities.
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