Question regarding speed

wasub · 03-18-2005, 11:27 AM

To make myself feel more important as we are obviously not much use as a class at the moment SMILEY

i was considering buying a horse. I figure with my increased stature parties are *sure* to overlook the fact i cant heal for ^^&*&.

There was a post a while back called 'speed test' where someone compared jboots+misty mustang with sow and MOH for different speeds. As this information might be old and im not sure if the jboots are the full journeyman boots id like a new opinion.

Is it worth buying a horse with Full Journeyman boots +SOW, and if so will the lower 'misty mustang' be just as good as a better horse considering my already increased speed?

Rumbler · 03-18-2005, 06:05 PM

I think the old conclusion was the mounts would not stack but I was told today that when SoE nerfed the horse speeds they also updated them to stack. Have not had a chance to test this yet though.

RBDVALENTI · 03-18-2005, 07:35 PM

wasubot wrote:

To make myself feel more important as we are obviously not much use as a class at the moment i was considering buying a horse. I figure with my increased stature parties are *sure* to overlook the fact i cant heal for ^^&*&.

There was a post a while back called 'speed test' where someone compared jboots+misty mustang with sow and MOH for different speeds. As this information might be old and im not sure if the jboots are the full journeyman boots id like a new opinion.

Is it worth buying a horse with Full Journeyman boots +SOW, and if so will the lower 'misty mustang' be just as good as a better horse considering my already increased speed?

OK you have the tier 1 horse (24 speed) , tier 2 horse (32 run speed) and tier 3 horse (40 run speed).

I personnaly bought the tier 1 horse. With your group buff (+3 speed), SoW (+20 speed), Jboots (+10 speed) your run speed is 33, which is faster than the tier 2 horse. I mean you have to keep SoW up, but I think that is something every fury is use to doing anyway. I also like the black horse and it's a tier 1 horse SMILEY .

Now the funniest thing to do, is find someone showing off their 9pp tier 3 horse to their friends and ask them to race. They don't like it too much when you cast pact of cheetah and blow by them on your horse galloping backwards lol SMILEY .

So the answer is the above spells stack. Top speed I think I have had personally is like 97 or something thats with group buff (3), SoW (20), Jboots (10), Pact of Cheetah (40), Dirge Song (24)...can't remember exact numbers but it's incredibly fast.

~Demise, 50 Fury, Unrest

Message Edited by RBDVALENTINE on 03-18-2005 08:37 AM

Ver · 03-18-2005, 08:02 PM

I wouldn't, and have not bought a horse. I use SoW totems when I need to get around. With everything up including sow totem my constant runspeed is 58. Burst with Cheetah is 98. I fly by suckers with cheap horses. Spend 88s and get yerself a sow totem to try out and see how ya like it. =) Verax

RBDVALENTI · 03-18-2005, 08:31 PM

Verax wrote:
I wouldn't, and have not bought a horse. I use SoW totems when I need to get around. With everything up including sow totem my constant runspeed is 58. Burst with Cheetah is 98. I fly by suckers with cheap horses. Spend 88s and get yerself a sow totem to try out and see how ya like it. =)

Verax

We will race tonight!! I take that as a challenge...

Let's see hmmmm....we can race for that master1 bloom you sent me a tell about being on the broker and then went in bought it before I got there LOL SMILEY

Thanks for info last night on eye, group leader really wanted to test it. I mean it's not a big deal to die now, but I really don't like fighting something there isn't a prayer to kill....

Cya online

~Demise

Shadowgr · 03-19-2005, 10:36 PM

What is group buff spell that adds +3? I know that the totem and SoW stack. Totem adds +24.

So, if I'm am reading this correct, if you have a horse, all other speed buffs will stack? Meaning SoW, J-boots, Totem, Group buff, Pact of Cheetah will all add to the speed of a horse? I assume the Totem doesn't, since it changes you into a wolf. Can someone confirm this. Just wanted to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. Thanks.

Ver · 03-20-2005, 01:40 AM

Jboots - 10 SoW - 20 SoW totem - 24 Hunt ad3 - 4 total normal run speed of 58 add 40 from cheetah and I'm at 98. Thats cookin. =) Verax

Message Edited by Verax on 03-19-2005 12:41 PM

RBDVALENTI · 03-21-2005, 12:51 AM

Shadowgrey wrote:

What is group buff spell that adds +3? I know that the totem and SoW stack. Totem adds +24.

So, if I'm am reading this correct, if you have a horse, all other speed buffs will stack? Meaning SoW, J-boots, Totem, Group buff, Pact of Cheetah will all add to the speed of a horse? I assume the Totem doesn't, since it changes you into a wolf. Can someone confirm this. Just wanted to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. Thanks.

Your post is correct. Just remember though it's not stacking on the horse speed. So if your horse speed is 24 and you cost SoW, you are only going to move at 24. Since SoW, Group Buff, Jboots all stack, your speed will always be 33 as long as you keep SoW up every 15 mins. Cheetah stacks on top of it as well, for the 36 seconds anyway.

~Demise, 50 Fury, Unrest

Voodoo Do · 03-21-2005, 04:42 AM

I dont think cheetah stacks with anything i think it just overwrites. I could be wrong but i seem to move at the same speed with cheetah regardless of any other spell i have up.

ren · 03-21-2005, 05:21 AM

It stacks with everything except for horse and sprint.

Ute · 03-21-2005, 06:16 AM

Another question. Does anyone know if pathfinding stacks with sow and/or sow totems? If I recall correctly from what I read, the bard song does stack with pathfinding. But I don't know if sow does or not. If it did then you could add pathfinding in(which any bard would have) with their song, sow, totem, +4 group, jboots, and cheetah to get rediculously fast speeds O.o Regarding horses, as others have said, horses do not stack, it just takes the fastest buff(except I *think* jboots do stack with horses but I'm not 100% on that). So, if your horse is faster than the buffs, you go horse speed. If your buffs are faster you'll go their speed instead. Horses, I imagine, would be nice for certain classes since, while they aren't the fastest you can get, they are an always on speed buff you don't have to think about. I can't really see their use for Furies though beyond looks since we can travel at or faster than their speeds on foot with just sow and a totem.

Ver · 03-21-2005, 09:11 PM

SoW and pathfinding do not stack. Verax

Shadowgr · 03-21-2005, 11:22 PM

Dinged 39 last night and checked out Pact of the Cheetah. Very nice. Had the Adpet1 which just made my spell cost more to cast...grrr. Found it very helpful in running 1st leg of J-Boots quest. Ran Ant leg at 11:38 --> SoW, Totem and Cheetah. I like being fast :smileywink:

03-18-2005, 11:27 AM	#1
wasub Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 25	To make myself feel more important as we are obviously not much use as a class at the moment i was considering buying a horse. I figure with my increased stature parties are sure to overlook the fact i cant heal for ^^&*&. There was a post a while back called 'speed test' where someone compared jboots+misty mustang with sow and MOH for different speeds. As this information might be old and im not sure if the jboots are the full journeyman boots id like a new opinion. Is it worth buying a horse with Full Journeyman boots +SOW, and if so will the lower 'misty mustang' be just as good as a better horse considering my already increased speed?

03-18-2005, 06:05 PM	#2
Rumbler Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 135	I think the old conclusion was the mounts would not stack but I was told today that when SoE nerfed the horse speeds they also updated them to stack. Have not had a chance to test this yet though. __________________

03-18-2005, 07:35 PM	#3
RBDVALENTI Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 87	wasubot wrote: To make myself feel more important as we are obviously not much use as a class at the moment i was considering buying a horse. I figure with my increased stature parties are sure to overlook the fact i cant heal for ^^&*&. There was a post a while back called 'speed test' where someone compared jboots+misty mustang with sow and MOH for different speeds. As this information might be old and im not sure if the jboots are the full journeyman boots id like a new opinion. Is it worth buying a horse with Full Journeyman boots +SOW, and if so will the lower 'misty mustang' be just as good as a better horse considering my already increased speed? OK you have the tier 1 horse (24 speed) , tier 2 horse (32 run speed) and tier 3 horse (40 run speed). I personnaly bought the tier 1 horse. With your group buff (+3 speed), SoW (+20 speed), Jboots (+10 speed) your run speed is 33, which is faster than the tier 2 horse. I mean you have to keep SoW up, but I think that is something every fury is use to doing anyway. I also like the black horse and it's a tier 1 horse . Now the funniest thing to do, is find someone showing off their 9pp tier 3 horse to their friends and ask them to race. They don't like it too much when you cast pact of cheetah and blow by them on your horse galloping backwards lol . So the answer is the above spells stack. Top speed I think I have had personally is like 97 or something thats with group buff (3), SoW (20), Jboots (10), Pact of Cheetah (40), Dirge Song (24)...can't remember exact numbers but it's incredibly fast. ~Demise, 50 Fury, Unrest Message Edited by RBDVALENTINE on 03-18-2005 08:37 AM

03-18-2005, 08:31 PM	#5
RBDVALENTI Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 87	Verax wrote: I wouldn't, and have not bought a horse. I use SoW totems when I need to get around. With everything up including sow totem my constant runspeed is 58. Burst with Cheetah is 98. I fly by suckers with cheap horses. Spend 88s and get yerself a sow totem to try out and see how ya like it. =) Verax We will race tonight!! I take that as a challenge... Let's see hmmmm....we can race for that master1 bloom you sent me a tell about being on the broker and then went in bought it before I got there LOL Thanks for info last night on eye, group leader really wanted to test it. I mean it's not a big deal to die now, but I really don't like fighting something there isn't a prayer to kill.... Cya online ~Demise

03-21-2005, 12:51 AM	#8
RBDVALENTI Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 87	Shadowgrey wrote: What is group buff spell that adds +3? I know that the totem and SoW stack. Totem adds +24. So, if I'm am reading this correct, if you have a horse, all other speed buffs will stack? Meaning SoW, J-boots, Totem, Group buff, Pact of Cheetah will all add to the speed of a horse? I assume the Totem doesn't, since it changes you into a wolf. Can someone confirm this. Just wanted to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. Thanks. Your post is correct. Just remember though it's not stacking on the horse speed. So if your horse speed is 24 and you cost SoW, you are only going to move at 24. Since SoW, Group Buff, Jboots all stack, your speed will always be 33 as long as you keep SoW up every 15 mins. Cheetah stacks on top of it as well, for the 36 seconds anyway. ~Demise, 50 Fury, Unrest

03-18-2005, 08:02 PM	#4
Ver Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 172	I wouldn't, and have not bought a horse. I use SoW totems when I need to get around. With everything up including sow totem my constant runspeed is 58. Burst with Cheetah is 98. I fly by suckers with cheap horses. Spend 88s and get yerself a sow totem to try out and see how ya like it. =) Verax

03-19-2005, 10:36 PM	#6
Shadowgr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 122	What is group buff spell that adds +3? I know that the totem and SoW stack. Totem adds +24. So, if I'm am reading this correct, if you have a horse, all other speed buffs will stack? Meaning SoW, J-boots, Totem, Group buff, Pact of Cheetah will all add to the speed of a horse? I assume the Totem doesn't, since it changes you into a wolf. Can someone confirm this. Just wanted to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. Thanks.

03-20-2005, 01:40 AM	#7
Ver Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 172	Jboots - 10 SoW - 20 SoW totem - 24 Hunt ad3 - 4 total normal run speed of 58 add 40 from cheetah and I'm at 98. Thats cookin. =) Verax Message Edited by Verax on 03-19-2005 12:41 PM

03-21-2005, 04:42 AM	#9
Voodoo Do Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59	I dont think cheetah stacks with anything i think it just overwrites. I could be wrong but i seem to move at the same speed with cheetah regardless of any other spell i have up.

03-21-2005, 05:21 AM	#10
ren Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 409	It stacks with everything except for horse and sprint.

03-21-2005, 06:16 AM	#11
Ute Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 123	Another question. Does anyone know if pathfinding stacks with sow and/or sow totems? If I recall correctly from what I read, the bard song does stack with pathfinding. But I don't know if sow does or not. If it did then you could add pathfinding in(which any bard would have) with their song, sow, totem, +4 group, jboots, and cheetah to get rediculously fast speeds O.o Regarding horses, as others have said, horses do not stack, it just takes the fastest buff(except I think jboots do stack with horses but I'm not 100% on that). So, if your horse is faster than the buffs, you go horse speed. If your buffs are faster you'll go their speed instead. Horses, I imagine, would be nice for certain classes since, while they aren't the fastest you can get, they are an always on speed buff you don't have to think about. I can't really see their use for Furies though beyond looks since we can travel at or faster than their speeds on foot with just sow and a totem. __________________

03-21-2005, 09:11 PM	#12
Ver Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 172	SoW and pathfinding do not stack. Verax

03-21-2005, 11:22 PM	#13
Shadowgr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 122	Dinged 39 last night and checked out Pact of the Cheetah. Very nice. Had the Adpet1 which just made my spell cost more to cast...grrr. Found it very helpful in running 1st leg of J-Boots quest. Ran Ant leg at 11:38 --> SoW, Totem and Cheetah. I like being fast :smileywink: