Regrowth Adept 3 or new lvl 20 Regen?

BeerDog · 01-07-2005, 10:03 PM

I’m torn.I actually managed to harvest a sliver cluster with one of my alts last week and found someone selling the Scholar Refining 11 book for 40 silver so I can make myself an Adept 3 Regrowth spell. Hurray for me! Then I remember that there are a bunch of big crafting changes coming soon, so maybe I should wait and see if I can get Adept 4 or something. So I wait to make this spell until this weekend.So then the big patch comes out and there are no Adept 4’s (at least I don’t think there are) but now I get these training things. I didn’t know which was which when I logged in so I took the group cure Noxious and the lvl 20 regen one (I can’t remember the exact name).Now I’m wondering, should I still make the Adept 3 regrowth or will the new regen be better? Should I make a different spell into an Adept 3? Should I just sell it for a ridiculous amount and retire to live like a king in Patagonia?I’m not sure so I thought I would ask you more experienced Fury’s out there what you thought. I’m lvl 23 btw, and split my time pretty evenly between grouping and soloing, in case that makes a difference,Thanks!

FumoFu · 01-07-2005, 10:13 PM

that other "winters" regrowth thing does 145 per tick heal at lvl35 ... compared to my adept3 regrowth (118 per tick) its a lot better lol.. infact i think its better than fleshweave which is the sucession to regrowth lol! go figure :/

Bens · 01-07-2005, 10:58 PM

Do you need Silver to make Fury spells or does it differ spell to spell?

BeerDog · 01-07-2005, 11:46 PM

Sorry, I should have specified, Silver can only be used to make the Adept 3 versions of Tier 2 spells so basically I can upgrade one of my old Druid spells, not a Fury specific spell.So if Winter’s Regrowth (or whatever it’s called) is better than Regrowth Adept 3, what spell should I upgrade? Chill or Willowskin maybe?

Flagrant · 01-07-2005, 11:52 PM

bloom

osama · 01-08-2005, 12:10 AM

I am level 31 and I still use bloom from time to time, when can I expect a replacement?Yeah, go bloom!

Lego · 01-08-2005, 12:39 AM

Bloom has my vote

BeerDog · 01-08-2005, 12:43 AM

Thanks for all the replies!I currently have Bloom at Adept 1; does anyone know how much of a difference raising it to Adept 3 would have?If it’s not a substantial difference, I might just sell the silver cluster. Last time I checked, they were going for 12 Gold on the broker!

FumoFu · 01-08-2005, 12:59 AM

missing the point here guys SMILEY

if the regens stacked correctly we wouldnt need bloom lol but it is handy in ur 20-early 30's

Maizey3 · 01-08-2005, 01:38 AM

I upgraded most of my heals to Adept 3 and I was least satisified with Bloom. I wasn't really impressed with Bloom to begin with. It had potential, but just seemed to be quite lacking. I'll get the numbers after I play tonight.

Schlack · 01-08-2005, 08:15 PM

I've had regrowth adept 3 for a couple levels now (fury 21) and I couldn't be more pleased with the decision. I can toss regrowth on a teammate and not worry about him for 30 seconds, while I attend to others. Not sure what will replace it soon, but it has been a great choice thus far.

Katx · 01-08-2005, 08:36 PM

If one is in their early 20s, I would keep the silver cluster and upgrade something other than Regrowth. The 20th level HoT training ability makes the need for Regrowth Adept III unnecessary. They don't stack, they are on the same recast timer... and 20th level heals for more per tick than Regrowth Adept III.

I wish I'd known about this training option coming before I blew 5g for Regrowth Adept III last week.

Message Edited by Katxim on 01-08-2005 07:38 AM

RedDragon · 01-08-2005, 09:08 PM

I upgraded Bloom to Adept III and was kinda dissapointed.

I think the level 20 regen > Regrowth

When I updated bloom it healed for maybe 25 more HP and the regen did about 10 more per tick which is pretty insignificant.

If I could do it again (or when I get another Coral) I would upgrade Efflorescense. I hear it does 540 or something at adept III.

kcirrot · 01-08-2005, 10:23 PM

I agree with everyone here. The level 20 HoT makes Regrowth Adept 3 a waste. If it were me, I would upgrade one of the buffs either Willowskin or Verdure.

BeerDog · 01-09-2005, 07:23 PM

Does anyone have any numbers on Adpet 1 Effloressense vs. Adept 3? Or Willowskin?

Jooneau · 01-12-2005, 11:40 PM

One of the level 30 advancement options is an upgraded Effloresce so I wouldn't make that an Adept 3 unless you were set on getting one of the other level 30 advancement options.

Zamw · 01-13-2005, 01:28 AM

Effloresce Adept 1 heals for 444 at level 30. If the Adept 3 does heal for 540ish then I would use the rare for that, especially if you are planning on getting the upgrade to Strike of Thunder at 30.

ren · 01-13-2005, 02:00 AM

I think Adept3 Efflo capped at 563 for me? I am not 100% sure though. M1 Efflo is 623 for 133 and remains the most efficient / used major instant heal in my arsenal.

01-08-2005, 12:10 AM	#6
osama Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 48	I am level 31 and I still use bloom from time to time, when can I expect a replacement?Yeah, go bloom! __________________ -- The BlackHand, http://tbhguild.org/ We Always Prevail!

01-08-2005, 12:59 AM	#9
FumoFu Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 49	missing the point here guys if the regens stacked correctly we wouldnt need bloom lol but it is handy in ur 20-early 30's

01-08-2005, 01:38 AM	#10
Maizey3 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 136	I upgraded most of my heals to Adept 3 and I was least satisified with Bloom. I wasn't really impressed with Bloom to begin with. It had potential, but just seemed to be quite lacking. I'll get the numbers after I play tonight. __________________

01-08-2005, 08:36 PM	#12
Katx General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 201	If one is in their early 20s, I would keep the silver cluster and upgrade something other than Regrowth. The 20th level HoT training ability makes the need for Regrowth Adept III unnecessary. They don't stack, they are on the same recast timer... and 20th level heals for more per tick than Regrowth Adept III. I wish I'd known about this training option coming before I blew 5g for Regrowth Adept III last week. Message Edited by Katxim on 01-08-2005 07:38 AM __________________ Ximeni - 70 Fury Eithne - 70 Swashbuckler Troops of Doom - Master Officer Guk

01-13-2005, 01:28 AM	#17
Zamw Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 41	Effloresce Adept 1 heals for 444 at level 30. If the Adept 3 does heal for 540ish then I would use the rare for that, especially if you are planning on getting the upgrade to Strike of Thunder at 30. __________________ Zamwen 60 Fury - 60 Alchemist Sanctus Arcanum on Mistmoore

01-07-2005, 10:03 PM	#1
BeerDog Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 36	I’m torn.I actually managed to harvest a sliver cluster with one of my alts last week and found someone selling the Scholar Refining 11 book for 40 silver so I can make myself an Adept 3 Regrowth spell. Hurray for me! Then I remember that there are a bunch of big crafting changes coming soon, so maybe I should wait and see if I can get Adept 4 or something. So I wait to make this spell until this weekend.So then the big patch comes out and there are no Adept 4’s (at least I don’t think there are) but now I get these training things. I didn’t know which was which when I logged in so I took the group cure Noxious and the lvl 20 regen one (I can’t remember the exact name).Now I’m wondering, should I still make the Adept 3 regrowth or will the new regen be better? Should I make a different spell into an Adept 3? Should I just sell it for a ridiculous amount and retire to live like a king in Patagonia?I’m not sure so I thought I would ask you more experienced Fury’s out there what you thought. I’m lvl 23 btw, and split my time pretty evenly between grouping and soloing, in case that makes a difference,Thanks!

01-07-2005, 10:13 PM	#2
FumoFu Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 49	that other "winters" regrowth thing does 145 per tick heal at lvl35 ... compared to my adept3 regrowth (118 per tick) its a lot better lol.. infact i think its better than fleshweave which is the sucession to regrowth lol! go figure :/

01-07-2005, 10:58 PM	#3
Bens Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 13	Do you need Silver to make Fury spells or does it differ spell to spell?

01-07-2005, 11:46 PM	#4
BeerDog Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 36	Sorry, I should have specified, Silver can only be used to make the Adept 3 versions of Tier 2 spells so basically I can upgrade one of my old Druid spells, not a Fury specific spell.So if Winter’s Regrowth (or whatever it’s called) is better than Regrowth Adept 3, what spell should I upgrade? Chill or Willowskin maybe?

01-07-2005, 11:52 PM	#5
Flagrant Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4	bloom

01-08-2005, 12:39 AM	#7
Lego General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 277	Bloom has my vote

01-08-2005, 12:43 AM	#8
BeerDog Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 36	Thanks for all the replies!I currently have Bloom at Adept 1; does anyone know how much of a difference raising it to Adept 3 would have?If it’s not a substantial difference, I might just sell the silver cluster. Last time I checked, they were going for 12 Gold on the broker!

01-08-2005, 08:15 PM	#11
Schlack Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1	I've had regrowth adept 3 for a couple levels now (fury 21) and I couldn't be more pleased with the decision. I can toss regrowth on a teammate and not worry about him for 30 seconds, while I attend to others. Not sure what will replace it soon, but it has been a great choice thus far.

01-08-2005, 09:08 PM	#13
RedDragon Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 42	I upgraded Bloom to Adept III and was kinda dissapointed. I think the level 20 regen > Regrowth When I updated bloom it healed for maybe 25 more HP and the regen did about 10 more per tick which is pretty insignificant. If I could do it again (or when I get another Coral) I would upgrade Efflorescense. I hear it does 540 or something at adept III.

01-08-2005, 10:23 PM	#14
kcirrot Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 898	I agree with everyone here. The level 20 HoT makes Regrowth Adept 3 a waste. If it were me, I would upgrade one of the buffs either Willowskin or Verdure.

01-09-2005, 07:23 PM	#15
BeerDog Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 36	Does anyone have any numbers on Adpet 1 Effloressense vs. Adept 3? Or Willowskin?

01-12-2005, 11:40 PM	#16
Jooneau Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 264	One of the level 30 advancement options is an upgraded Effloresce so I wouldn't make that an Adept 3 unless you were set on getting one of the other level 30 advancement options.

01-13-2005, 02:00 AM	#18
ren Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 409	I think Adept3 Efflo capped at 563 for me? I am not 100% sure though. M1 Efflo is 623 for 133 and remains the most efficient / used major instant heal in my arsenal.