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Unread 12-16-2006, 08:46 AM   #31
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You should PM your posts to Melanic so they can be edited, made legible, and posted imo.
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Unread 12-16-2006, 09:46 AM   #32
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Well if you look you can see what AA i went.. it's not to hard..
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Unread 12-17-2006, 10:32 PM   #33
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if you're in the mt gorup all the time why didn't you have 2 ranks in un yielding benediction?  If you're there to help the tank survive wouldn't it be better to have increased stoneskin proc over the bonus to fate, mark or involuntary?
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Unread 12-18-2006, 12:11 AM   #34
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That's funny, actually Gabryel is sort of my mentor for extreme situation healing and just helped me bump up about 300k on raid healing with the effect of less clothies dying.
 
About Unyielding Benediction, we actually crunched numbers for weeks and then tested it for awhile and found that it was more effective to fix a problem, than to add 1% chance that the problem never happens. It's not just getting our heal numbers up, it's keeping a raid alive, and the set-up posted in the links in Gab's post seem to be the most effective way to do so. Albiet, we're still concidering a few options.
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Unread 12-18-2006, 04:11 AM   #35
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Just seems odd in my mind to have enhance fate maxxed (grp heal when the mob dies doesn't seem critical IMO when raid healing) and not maxxing stoneskin. /shrug
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Unread 12-18-2006, 04:48 AM   #36
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This is done because that heal is critical when a boss mob had multiple adds, specifically when fighting adds that need to be burned fast. Again I can't give specifics of the situations tested, but usually these adds hit hard and with multiple adds, the heals get tough, but the adds die fast as well. It's maxxed with the intent to allow the healers to get a "normalized" healing position on such pulls without massive power expendatures.
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Unread 12-19-2006, 10:52 PM   #37
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I maxed out Unyielding, then Supplicating Fate (I like that spell too and use it a lot). Stoneskin is too good not too max it out. Yeah, it doesn't show up in parses, but healers aren't judged by parses like DPS. You are judged if the tank stays up or not. We all knows if the tank dies, it is the healers fault SMILEY
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Unread 12-22-2006, 05:00 PM   #38
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no its elo's fault :smileysad:
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Unread 12-23-2006, 04:10 AM   #39
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Echar Elocin wrote:
no its elo's fault :smileysad:

lol, I don't think many people will even understand that reference here.Anyhow, I can't understand picking Amending Fate over Unyielding Benediction either.  I haven't done any tests since beta(for stoneskin), but it seemed to increase somewhat, so I was satisfied.  In beta I even went as far as mapping an AA route from Compliances to Blessings that bypasses getting any points in Amending Fate what so ever and still getting 20 points for Blessings(AA).  I hope that shows my distain for Amending Fate in a raid setting.  True, I could be using it, and it might help... but I use Unyielding Benediction 100% of the time.  My last comment is regarding using it for multi-mob encounters... IF I ever find an encounter like that difficult, it will not be by the time one of the mobs dies... it's usually in the first seconds way before anything dies, so Amedning Fate wouldn't help me at all.  I'd be better off casting Reverence... another spell I use too infrequently for different reasons.
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