Reverence changes

[Navulat]

I haven't seen any posts on this, but has the % change with LU18 made any difference on this spell?  Is it worth getting now?  Or is it extremely situational and only to be scribed if I find an Adept 1? 

[SG_01]

I got the Adept III before the changes. The percentage changes from 140 to 210, so quite a bit better, and it does help keep people alive. I havn't extensively used it yet though, but it deffenitly works nice on pulling 

[Wildi]

I have this on my first bar of hotkeys, but I honestly dont use it as frequently as say intercession or amelioration.  I do think it is a cool spell though as it lets us heal in a new way.

I usually throw it on when the tank is taking alot of damage and I'm trying to find a way around using FB (for practical or just creative reasons)

I am very happy to hear the percentage is being raised!

 

Great thread, I love seeing news about my class and informed people providing it =)

[Kendricke]

Aye, the Adept III version is pulling in much better results. 

[Zabumt]

I was on a raid the other night with my guild.  Just killing x4 epic mobs in Silent City for eyes.  A few times, the 60 monk in my group caught aggro and tanked the mob we were fighting the rest of the way down.  I was the only healer in his group.  With reverence on him, I could actually see health regenning on him in between heals.  Was kind of fun.  I'd say it's most definitely working better oh and my Monk tank didn't die either hehe.

 

[Rocksurly]

I have mine at Master 1 and it heals at 240% now.

[Supernova17]

Original Reverance Adept3 = 190% Revamped Reverance Adept3 = 140% LU18 Reverance Adept3 = 210% And yes, LU18 Master 1 = 240% I find Reverance situational at best, something I cast before a raid pull or throw it up just as I put up Focused Benefaction. I'd much rather have a 3rd spot heal *cough* but I make do with what I have.

[faldorian viva]

Agreeing here with Supernova, it also is for me situational at best, but i have found it to be an excellent tool duoing last night.

I was out doing Giants in PoF with a guild monk, and well we pretty much were burning mana and all during fights... so i thought hell if we burn that mana the spell does potential 2-3k healing. To give you an idea of the situation.

He is a 59 monk and i am 57 templar. At certain times i healed him through groups of giants by only using Fate line, mez, stun and reverence kept up whole fight.It actually kept him alive some fights. Playing with it further i had to resort to also using direct heals and sometimes a reactive, but now the spell has an actual use. The fact that it now can be cast instantly after duration makes it a nice tool to use next to our reactives and direct heals.

The crazy thing were i kept him alive was probably situational, but i am thinking this spell has some potential and if people play around with it we can actually find some more good situations to use it.

For me this spell earned an upgrade to adp 3 and will see what uses it has more. Going to check if it stacks with other healing. If it does it will earn a spot for raid healing now also.

Hope you guys will give this spell another chance cause i believe the update made it alott more usefull.

[faldorian viva]

Sad update on raid healing... spell can sadly not be cast outside of group....

Well means for me fun to toy with in groups... but will only be for that.

[Zabumt]

Would be nice to be able to cast it out of group on a raid, no doubt.  But considering on a raid, I usually have my MT targetted and Reverence doesn't wear off before the recast timer is up like a reactive there's really no point to it.  Because, most likely there's a Templar in the MT group keeping Reverence up on the tank.  Now if a tank type in my group on a raid takes over as an off-tank for some reason, I can still use the spell and it works quite well.

 

[Hoopak]

I was gonna post on this spell but i did a search for it instead and found this.  It is an old post but i didnt want to start another when this was out there and could be added to now after eof. 

we were having trouble in death toll the other day and a healer in the raid gave me a tell to use my big direct heal on the pull countdown.  Well i was using it and we were still gettin terrible spike damage on the MT.  Well i been wondering about reverence for a while and thought it would be worth a try.  I read here that it didnt work out of group but when i used it on the MT in another group during the raid it worked more than fine.  This is one of the best pulling heal spells i have encountered so far.  It was also very good for the rest of the fight if my other heals were down.  Im level 67 templar and i only have this spell at adept1 and i tell you what a difference it made.  Throw it on the MT and with adept1 he gets healed for 180% of the mana he spends in the first 15 seconds.  So if he uses 2 spells a taunt and debuff for example and uses 300 mana for them spells in 15 seconds then he heals for 540 initial spike damage on top of the other healers and i can quikly go to another heal easy.  Doesnt take long to cast and recharges after 15 seconds to be thrown up again to ensure a healthy tank.  This is easy my new favorite templar heal spell and i am getting it to adept3 asap and if i find the master than i will be happy.

[mikeyswizz]

Best part about this blue, is our MT gets hit with jester's cap on the pull. So with the reduced recast timers he casts more CAs quickly, and in turn increases the amount of healing he gets from the spell.

[KFizzle]

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mikeyswizz wrote:

Best part about this blue, is our MT gets hit with jester's cap on the pull. So with the reduced recast timers he casts more CAs quickly, and in turn increases the amount of healing he gets from the spell.

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Well thats nice, when Kryme or Kouros friggen hits me with Jesters Cap on the pull ... but how often is that? Not nearly as often as i'd like ... although Kryme's really been hittin me with it more lately i will admit...

[SG_01]

Wow, what a necro-post there. As of right now Reverence can be cast on anyone raidwide. It's a pretty neat spell, not just to heal the MT. Pop this baby on a dps and you won't have to waste your big heal on them

[Hoopak]

not neccisarily a necro post in the sence that this spell has changed since this post and i didnt want to start a new thread when we can discuss the change in an existing post on the topic.  It has changed. it can be cast out of group now and also the adept1 % increased it seems unless i got some sort of bonus.  if kajar could put up numbers as far as how much mana do you think you spend in the first 15 seconds including the cost of your taunt on a pull?

[KFizzle]

im probably not a good example ... i'm a mana [Removed for Content]. My inital taunt is only like 50 power, but i usually fire off a BUNCHA things right after that. If it wasnt for two Regens being in my group i would NEVER be full mana ...

[Omega]

I often find a reactifve and this spell are enough to heal a decent plate tank.  Lotta tanks plow through power.Also use it on DPS if i think they wont be getting hit for a little bit.  Sometimes even on myself if i get hit, and can then continue to focus big heals on the tank.  Be creative.

[Hoopak]

yes i like to use it on an off dpser when they get hit but never thought of using it on myself. that is creative. it has a fast cast time.

[Wastura]

The spell can be used outside of group and is actually a very viable spell for a lot of stuff.

On raids this spell stacks with all other templar's and should be on the tank the entirety of all battles.

In groups, this is the most effective spot heal for scouts. Casters sometimes, but they usually back off when the mob turns on them and don't use power to heal themselves excepting to deagro.

In solo play, and I could be wrong since my only real solo experiences come from PvP'ing, it is also very nice way to continue nuking instead of needing a heal whereas your nukes heal as well.

In short, it has an extremely low power cost for great yeilds and when used can be your most mana efficient heal, it's only flaw is that it is unaware of situational healing, i.e. the tank has full health or the tank has 1% health. That's when direct healing should suppliment.

[NummieSh]

I use this spell ALL THE TIME.  Usually its on my tank... but cast on scouts and other healers when they take agro.

The power cost to heal ratio is INSANE!!!  On top of that I fire it off during pulls and have never pulled agro.  So it acts as a quick heal to balance some of the spike damage in higher level zones... or bad pulls.  As the tank starts firing off taunts and combat moves this baby is proc'ing heals.

This spell is one I use on EVERY encounter. 

Waiting to see this drop still... have never seen one on broker nor seen anyone in guild pick one up. :smileymad:

[Hoopak]

there are 2 adept3 versions of this spell on nek broker but a 70 sage guildie said he couldnt find it in his recipies and said he had all the books. anyone have any input on that?

[Wastura]

I've had the adept III made three times, once when I was templar, once after I became inquisitor and then templar again, then once by accident using copy and paste to my sage that I ordered. Three different sages all were capable of making the spell so either your guildie is missing a book, or he/she missed it in his recipe book (which for sages is huge) Might check the level on the spell, chances are he was looking in t7 and I believe it's T6. The filter command is your friend.

And yes, I use this spell on every pull barring "unforseen" circumstances, Treyloth D'Kulvith hits you for 10,568 points.

[Hoopak]

he found it in another book and now i have it. woohoo. adept3 reverence.

[Wastura]

Gratz, glad you found it, now utilize it for sure! : )

[Antryg Mistrose]

Hoopak wrote: "not neccisarily a necro post in the sence that this spell has changed since this post and i didnt want to start a new thread when we can discuss the change in an existing post on the topic"Its been castable out of group for what, a year?

[Hoopak]

It had changed since the last post of the old part of the thread is what i meant.