Your heals suck!

xenaphobia · 10-05-2005, 05:22 AM

I hear this so often with my templar when I am asked how much I can heal for with my reactive heals. I used to have a reactive heal of 166 and now it is way down to a mere 92. Not only that but I used to have two reactive heals that stacked 166 and 133. Boy those were the days, when my heals would acualy do some good. Whic is entirely the reason I played a templar as one of my alts. But now with such a low reactive heal it sucks. I know Iget decent regualr heals but at 36 I only have 3 heals and one is the reactive one. I feel almost useless in a grp unless there is someone with wards to help out. All in all I'm not haveing fun anymore.

Sorry for the short post but since it doesn't seem like SOE is reading mine or anyone elses posts I am going through and posting my opinions and suggestions in all the forums they apply in.

Kendricke · 10-05-2005, 06:08 AM

What level are you? Which spell are you discussing? Which grade is that spell?

xenaphobia · 10-05-2005, 06:15 AM

well I already said I was lvl 36, as for the names of the spells I never bother to remember them just what they do. my big heal is nice but that alone isn't enough most of the time. But mostly I am just complaining about my reactive heal. before revamp I had two that stacked doing 166 each hit and 133 each hit now I only get one and it is 92 each hit. Yes it is app1 but so were the ones before the revamp so an equal comparison in my book, and keep in mind I had two that stacked before revamp.

Eileithia · 10-05-2005, 07:07 AM

Spell quality made Jack-diddly difference before the revamp.. Find an Adept 1, 3, or Master 1 of your Reactive and compare.. there is a MAJOR difference in spell quality now, and that, in a lot of cases, can mean success or failure. Before the revamp.. there were a LOT of situations where the App 1 version of a spell actually healed for more than the adept, or even the master, and actually cost less power.. Now it is as it should be.. you are rewarded for upgrading, and it is a very substantial reward.. Go check the broker, if you don't have any money and examine the spell (I'm sure the Adept will be on there) and you will see that it is a HUGE difference, and may fix your issue.

ChitzDaTroll · 10-05-2005, 07:48 AM

For your level 34 training ability, if you chose the master 2 version of Restoration, it can heal for up to 920+ points of health.

I will deffinetely admit, when I first logged on after the revamp, the thing that made my jaw drop, was how much less my reactive, supplicants prayer, was healing for. Bear in mind, I only had it at app4, because pre patch, there was only a 9 point difference in the heal between an app4 and adept1 supplicants prayer.

I immediatly upgraded supplicants prayer to adept3, and now its healing for I believe 143? something like that. Its in the 140's.

Not going to say anything bad, but you deffinetely want to have higher then app1, you have to try and upgrade your primary heals to adept3 asap. Even pre patch,.. if your primary heals were only app1 that really says alot for why your having such a difficult time now xeno. The lowest you should have for any spell now is app4, and that should be to tide you over until you can get the adept version. If your debuffs are app1, there is a very good chance that they will get resisted a gigantic percentage more now, then before the patch. Upgrade those spells asap my friend, and it wont be so difficult.

Dunzzt is correct, there is a huge, huge, huge difference now after the big patch, then before,.. in how important spell quality is now. And the way that you heal must change as well, because the only reactives that you can stack pre fight anymore, are your group reactive, and your single target reactive,.. no more group, then supplicants prayer, then bestowal of vitae heh. SMILEY

Its more of a challenge now, but once you figure it out, its much more rewarding to know that you can adapt and excel.

Let us know how it goes.

Btw, what server are you on? If your on mine, I'll help upgrade your spells for you with my sage.

xenaphobia · 10-05-2005, 09:06 AM

wow I had no idea an adpet1 would upgrade so much for the heal, on my other chaacter the difference between my app1's and adept1's weren't all that great so I must admit I just assumed the reactive heal adept would be the same but I want to thank you for telling me this, I now have one less thing to complain about and that feels better.

Kithicor

Zabumt · 10-05-2005, 01:44 PM

Also, remember to use all of your abilities. Alone, examining our spells might be disappointing. But with Mark proccing, stacked single and group reactive, instant heals, group heals (check them out, they're our next best thing to a third instant heal), and fate going off, we definitely bring some healing power to the table.

At the higher levels, with GoC proccing constantly with two GoCed meleers in a group and all the other stuff, the group is nearly constantly bathed in divine healing light. Are we different post-patch? Most definitely. Do our heals suck? Not in my opinion.

SenorPhrog · 10-05-2005, 04:24 PM

xenaphobia wrote:

wow I had no idea an adpet1 would upgrade so much for the heal, on my other chaacter the difference between my app1's and adept1's weren't all that great so I must admit I just assumed the reactive heal adept would be the same but I want to thank you for telling me this, I now have one less thing to complain about and that feels better.

Kithicor

Another has seen the light! Congratulations and go forth to beat foolishness from others!

Always upgrade your stuff as soon as it is feasible. I play on a low pop server so I can easily get gouged for upgrades but sometimes I just can't wait.

Blast2hell · 10-05-2005, 06:43 PM

yeah, the upgrades are so important now, especially since we don't have as many heals to stack...so what we do have needs to be good. I personally plan to make all my spells with Healing potential Adept 3 as soon as I get them. Provided I can afford it hehe.

10-05-2005, 06:08 AM	#2
Kendricke Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,032	What level are you? Which spell are you discussing? Which grade is that spell? __________________ * -Opinions expressed in this post do not represent any current or past employers.

10-05-2005, 07:07 AM	#4
Eileithia Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 496	Spell quality made Jack-diddly difference before the revamp.. Find an Adept 1, 3, or Master 1 of your Reactive and compare.. there is a MAJOR difference in spell quality now, and that, in a lot of cases, can mean success or failure. Before the revamp.. there were a LOT of situations where the App 1 version of a spell actually healed for more than the adept, or even the master, and actually cost less power.. Now it is as it should be.. you are rewarded for upgrading, and it is a very substantial reward.. Go check the broker, if you don't have any money and examine the spell (I'm sure the Adept will be on there) and you will see that it is a HUGE difference, and may fix your issue. __________________

10-05-2005, 07:48 AM	#5
ChitzDaTroll Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 34	For your level 34 training ability, if you chose the master 2 version of Restoration, it can heal for up to 920+ points of health. I will deffinetely admit, when I first logged on after the revamp, the thing that made my jaw drop, was how much less my reactive, supplicants prayer, was healing for. Bear in mind, I only had it at app4, because pre patch, there was only a 9 point difference in the heal between an app4 and adept1 supplicants prayer. I immediatly upgraded supplicants prayer to adept3, and now its healing for I believe 143? something like that. Its in the 140's. Not going to say anything bad, but you deffinetely want to have higher then app1, you have to try and upgrade your primary heals to adept3 asap. Even pre patch,.. if your primary heals were only app1 that really says alot for why your having such a difficult time now xeno. The lowest you should have for any spell now is app4, and that should be to tide you over until you can get the adept version. If your debuffs are app1, there is a very good chance that they will get resisted a gigantic percentage more now, then before the patch. Upgrade those spells asap my friend, and it wont be so difficult. Dunzzt is correct, there is a huge, huge, huge difference now after the big patch, then before,.. in how important spell quality is now. And the way that you heal must change as well, because the only reactives that you can stack pre fight anymore, are your group reactive, and your single target reactive,.. no more group, then supplicants prayer, then bestowal of vitae heh. Its more of a challenge now, but once you figure it out, its much more rewarding to know that you can adapt and excel. Let us know how it goes. Btw, what server are you on? If your on mine, I'll help upgrade your spells for you with my sage.

10-05-2005, 01:44 PM	#7
Zabumt Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 489	Also, remember to use all of your abilities. Alone, examining our spells might be disappointing. But with Mark proccing, stacked single and group reactive, instant heals, group heals (check them out, they're our next best thing to a third instant heal), and fate going off, we definitely bring some healing power to the table. At the higher levels, with GoC proccing constantly with two GoCed meleers in a group and all the other stuff, the group is nearly constantly bathed in divine healing light. Are we different post-patch? Most definitely. Do our heals suck? Not in my opinion. __________________ Halthar 70 Dwarf Templar - Unrest Zabumtik 60 Gnome Wizard - Unrest

10-05-2005, 04:24 PM	#8
SenorPhrog Ten Ton Hammer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Fourth Wall Posts: 1,041	xenaphobia wrote: wow I had no idea an adpet1 would upgrade so much for the heal, on my other chaacter the difference between my app1's and adept1's weren't all that great so I must admit I just assumed the reactive heal adept would be the same but I want to thank you for telling me this, I now have one less thing to complain about and that feels better. Kithicor Another has seen the light! Congratulations and go forth to beat foolishness from others! Always upgrade your stuff as soon as it is feasible. I play on a low pop server so I can easily get gouged for upgrades but sometimes I just can't wait. __________________

10-05-2005, 05:22 AM	#1
xenaphobia Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 48	I hear this so often with my templar when I am asked how much I can heal for with my reactive heals. I used to have a reactive heal of 166 and now it is way down to a mere 92. Not only that but I used to have two reactive heals that stacked 166 and 133. Boy those were the days, when my heals would acualy do some good. Whic is entirely the reason I played a templar as one of my alts. But now with such a low reactive heal it sucks. I know Iget decent regualr heals but at 36 I only have 3 heals and one is the reactive one. I feel almost useless in a grp unless there is someone with wards to help out. All in all I'm not haveing fun anymore. Sorry for the short post but since it doesn't seem like SOE is reading mine or anyone elses posts I am going through and posting my opinions and suggestions in all the forums they apply in.

10-05-2005, 06:15 AM	#3
xenaphobia Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 48	well I already said I was lvl 36, as for the names of the spells I never bother to remember them just what they do. my big heal is nice but that alone isn't enough most of the time. But mostly I am just complaining about my reactive heal. before revamp I had two that stacked doing 166 each hit and 133 each hit now I only get one and it is 92 each hit. Yes it is app1 but so were the ones before the revamp so an equal comparison in my book, and keep in mind I had two that stacked before revamp.

10-05-2005, 09:06 AM	#6
xenaphobia Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 48	wow I had no idea an adpet1 would upgrade so much for the heal, on my other chaacter the difference between my app1's and adept1's weren't all that great so I must admit I just assumed the reactive heal adept would be the same but I want to thank you for telling me this, I now have one less thing to complain about and that feels better. Kithicor

10-05-2005, 06:43 PM	#9
Blast2hell Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 472	yeah, the upgrades are so important now, especially since we don't have as many heals to stack...so what we do have needs to be good. I personally plan to make all my spells with Healing potential Adept 3 as soon as I get them. Provided I can afford it hehe. __________________ Athian Miere 70 Barbarian Templar Paradigm-Unrest EQ2 Utility Programs Written By me: Priest Healing Parser EQ2MusicModder