fd not 100%

[plaguebeast1]

Deathly Pallor is not 100%, not by a longshot...I have fizzled on it more then once...

[Rasputai]

100% When spell is cast.

Has nothing to do with casting the spell. The 100% means that mobs will believe you are dead with no chance to see though.

[Anim]

Fizzles dont matter, thats not what they meant by 100%.  What that means is that on a successful cast (as in no fizzle), the mob will think you are dead 100% of the time.  Other classes that get FD have a small chance of the mob not being fooled.

[Barobra]

:smileyvery-happy:

 

Sorry but this post made me laugh.

[Tarkin-Wretch]

made me laugh as well.  reminded me of this girl my friends and i play with who kept complaining of dying to mobs 2 levels below her, dbl down arrow stuff.  come to find out all her gear went to 0% condition and she somehow sold her weapon and never noticed.  "OMG why cant i kill anything?"

[DarkMirrax]

:smileyvery-happy:

I cant help it either , sry thats just sooo funny

hehehe tbh i can see where the op is coming from though , just got it wrong :smileytongue:

[Delameko Stone]

If I feign my death in water, sharks and (I think) octopusses (octopi ?) will take no notice and keep attacking me.  Any one else experience this?

[KBern]

Octopi and shark just like dead bodies...working as intended!~

 

No, never had it fail anywhere for me and used it underwater a few times early on in PoF doing the monk quests.

[sunmagic]

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KBern wrote:

Octopi and shark just like dead bodies...working as intended!~

No, never had it fail anywhere for me and used it underwater a few times early on in PoF doing the monk quests.

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Fresh meat? :smileyvery-happy:

[Spockmaster]

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Delameko Stone wrote:If I feign my death in water, sharks and (I think) octopusses (octopi ?) will take no notice and keep attacking me.  Any one else experience this?

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nope, i got that epic shark on me in EF last night (sometimes i engage quests without reading all the dialogue when im tired, totally did NOT expect an epic shark to attack me.)  FD worked on him underwater.

[Shipwreck_GPA]

 

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Spockmaster wrote:

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Delameko Stone wrote:
If I feign my death in water, sharks and (I think) octopusses (octopi ?) will take no notice and keep attacking me.  Any one else experience this?

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nope, i got that epic shark on me in EF last night (sometimes i engage quests without reading all the dialogue when im tired, totally did NOT expect an epic shark to attack me.)  FD worked on him underwater.

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I have feigned him off several times as well. Never had a problem.

[Delameko Stone]

[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] sharks... I must just be bad at faking it... :smileytongue:

[Lendis]

Its not 100%.

 

We did Talendor the other night.. i ran across room and Feigned.

That red toothy [Removed for Content] flew all the way across the room. stood on me. and ice cometed me.

 

all the while iw as feigned.

[Deila]

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Lendis wrote:

Its not 100%.

 

We did Talendor the other night.. i ran across room and Feigned.

That red toothy [Removed for Content] flew all the way across the room. stood on me. and ice cometed me.

 

all the while iw as feigned.

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As a rule, yes, our FD is 100% success, assuming the spell is cast (not fizzled, interrupted, etc.). That means that mobs don't get a roll to see if they're not fooled the way that most other class' feigns work.

Some 'special' named mobs may occasionally get to break the rules, as special abilities. I'm personally okay with that.

 

[Himura]

Well i agree on the part that FD allways works....

The reason you were icecometed to death is (acording to a few monk players i have talked with), FD doesn't cancel the spell if the mob has allready started casting it.

You may experience this as getting hitted while "falling to ground" against melee mobs.... though against casters with slow cast times you easily get the impression that they attack you after you FD.

[Rousso]

Double tap that button for teh win!

[cfteagu]

About the sharks -- I've never seen anything like that.  What's probably happening is that you were hit with a couple DOT spells (sharks are scouts mostly and have a few dots they like to use).  So even after FD you were taking damage from the DOT spell, which is completely different from the shark still attacking you.

OR, maybe your enduring breathe wore off and you were taking damage from drowning.

Anyways, in my experiance, FD is 100 percent that the mob will no longer be attacking YOU, but there's still lots of ways to die

* timing problem - mob started long attack as you were casting FD, not sure if that attack still lands  (even if not, if you have a laggy connection to server, your client might display things in the wrong order, so it *looks* like you get hit after FD)

* mobs with any kind of AE attack can be fighting your pet and AE, and hit you with it.

* FDing underwater - you can drown.   Never tried FD in midair, but i assume you still die when you hit ground.

* mobs with ae knockback, like those wisps in palace, can still push you around, which might get you killed

* If you are hurt bad, and your still in combat cause pet is still fighting, Lich (or archlich) can kill you.

* if you die before you finish casting FD, you are of course, dead.  I've had this happen wierdly when I thought I fd'd (it was laggy) but then realized i died.  When I revived however, I could not MOVE.... til I stood up.  Somehow I was FD when i revived.

 

 

[Delameko Stone]

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cfteague2 wrote:

About the sharks -- I've never seen anything like that.  What's probably happening is that you were hit with a couple DOT spells (sharks are scouts mostly and have a few dots they like to use).  So even after FD you were taking damage from the DOT spell, which is completely different from the shark still attacking you.

OR, maybe your enduring breathe wore off and you were taking damage from drowning.

Anyways, in my experiance, FD is 100 percent that the mob will no longer be attacking YOU, but there's still lots of ways to die

* timing problem - mob started long attack as you were casting FD, not sure if that attack still lands  (even if not, if you have a laggy connection to server, your client might display things in the wrong order, so it *looks* like you get hit after FD)

* mobs with any kind of AE attack can be fighting your pet and AE, and hit you with it.

* FDing underwater - you can drown.   Never tried FD in midair, but i assume you still die when you hit ground.

* mobs with ae knockback, like those wisps in palace, can still push you around, which might get you killed

* If you are hurt bad, and your still in combat cause pet is still fighting, Lich (or archlich) can kill you.

* if you die before you finish casting FD, you are of course, dead.  I've had this happen wierdly when I thought I fd'd (it was laggy) but then realized i died.  When I revived however, I could not MOVE.... til I stood up.  Somehow I was FD when i revived.

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I wasn't looking at DoTs... I was too busy looking at the keyboard as I typed in "Sonovabi_tch!"

[Lendis]

Mob already casting when i fd and spell goes thru. sure. thats acceptable. i know that

 

Mob flying completely across the top floor of ascent to stand on me and then cast. thats not the same thing =p

[Solaran_X]

Only problem I have with Deathly Pallor is that it doesn't drop aggro. I can FD and stay down for a good 30 seconds while my pet beats on a mob, taunts, etc., etc. And as soon as I pop up...the mob changes targets immeadiately and usually kills me.

[sunmagic]

You have to wait until pet dies until you can cancel it. Aggro will still exist if your pets or DOT's are alive.

[sunmagic]

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Deila wrote:

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Lendis wrote:

Its not 100%.

We did Talendor the other night.. i ran across room and Feigned.

That red toothy [Removed for Content] flew all the way across the room. stood on me. and ice cometed me.

all the while iw as feigned.

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As a rule, yes, our FD is 100% success, assuming the spell is cast (not fizzled, interrupted, etc.). That means that mobs don't get a roll to see if they're not fooled the way that most other class' feigns work.

Some 'special' named mobs may occasionally get to break the rules, as special abilities. I'm personally okay with that.

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What I have found with FD is if you wait till the very last second there is a possibility you will die. That's because ofpossible server lag or just cutting it too close to 0%. I usually FD around 10% just to avoid this problem. I foundthat out several times when I cut it way too close.

Message Edited by sunmagic on 04-23-2006 04:20 PM

[evhallion]

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Deila wrote:

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Lendis wrote:

Its not 100%.

 

We did Talendor the other night.. i ran across room and Feigned.

That red toothy [Removed for Content] flew all the way across the room. stood on me. and ice cometed me.

 

all the while iw as feigned.

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As a rule, yes, our FD is 100% success, assuming the spell is cast (not fizzled, interrupted, etc.). That means that mobs don't get a roll to see if they're not fooled the way that most other class' feigns work.

Some 'special' named mobs may occasionally get to break the rules, as special abilities. I'm personally okay with that.

 

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While this is true I'm not sure if that would be the case with Talendor. I have personally FDed on that encounter many times much the same way. Ran across room to get away from the fire mobs and Talendor's AOE before wipe and never had an issue with my FD not working 100%. Maybe I was just very lucky.

[Enigm]

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Animar wrote:
Fizzles dont matter, thats not what they meant by 100%.  What that means is that on a successful cast (as in no fizzle), the mob will think you are dead 100% of the time.  Other classes that get FD have a small chance of the mob not being fooled.

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As a SK I can tell you its not small chance its about 40% fail and 60% good

[Deila]

 

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Enigmo2 wrote:

As a SK I can tell you its not small chance its about 40% fail and 60% good

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Depends on the class. Shadowknights have a relatively low chance of successful feigns, as you point out, but Monks for example get up into the high 90s percentage-wise.

 

[Anjin]

Feign Death does not give you damage immunity, all it means is that you won't be targetted.  Therefore, if an ae is cast by the critter, and you feigned death within the ae range, you'll suffer damage.

Anjin

[quamdar]

it does seem sometimes though you can get hit even though FD goes off.  i know atleast once i was training through AoA and used FD and i was hit after FD went off according to the log and also had a reuse timer even though i was dead and had not revived (so i didn't accidentally queue it and revive).  was very quickly after i died though so was prolly just caused by server lag.

[Audabon]

we just beat tarinax < server first > and many times i would FD only to die by AE when the big ugly dragon had someone else targeted. fd = not immune to ae.

WORKING AS INTENDED.

[Tallika_Runwithbears]

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Audabon wrote:

we just beat tarinax < server first > and many times i would FD only to die by AE when the big ugly dragon had someone else targeted. fd = not immune to ae.

WORKING AS INTENDED.

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FD has always worked like that.  your lucky it doesnt break FD like in other games.  mobs can be made smart enough to see the floating numbers about your corpse...*evil*