CONJ AA INFO

hellfire · 02-09-2006, 08:16 AM

here is brief overview as well as SS of abilitys.lets try to keep the AA discution here if we can.anyone in beta add what ya want.im sure X will do a write up also.i posted firstly onto summonertower but decided to put it here also.

starting at lev 20 you will be able to gain achievement xp to be used to acuire acivevment abilitys.you get AA xp by either dinging a level,completeing quests,finding rare treasure,killing various bosses,discovering new places in travels.you DO NOT gain AA xp from general xp gain so there isnt a certain percentage to put into AA advancement as in eq1 so it doesnt apply here.

max AA points you can gain is 50.there are 5 paths you can take in the AA tree.first path is streanth followed byagility,stamina,wisdom and then finally intel.

you can use your AA in any way you wish into any path of the tree up to the max allowed of 50 points.you can also fully unlock 2 complet paths of the tree by putting 24 points into each tree path.or you can completely max one path if wish to maximize that paths abilitys.the choice is yours.

the abilitys for path 1 strenth

abilitys for path 2 agility

abilitys for path 3 stamina

abilitys for path 4 wisdom

abilitys for path 5 intel

Message Edited by hellfire on 02-08-200607:21 PM

Xalmat · 02-09-2006, 08:17 AM

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Romka · 02-09-2006, 08:20 AM

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tass · 02-09-2006, 08:59 AM

ok well that list is confusing as hell. so let me try to get this all situated. so basicly we get 50 points and each step requires 8 pojnts to advance and to advance fully in 1 path we use nearly all of the points except like 8 or 9 right? also what line does anyone think would best suit a conjurer. and 1 last question, while scanning the last link I saw that nekroes get a kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] spell that summons all the dead around them like up to 14 i think to attack something do we get anything of the like in elemental form cause that would kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. almist makes me want to roll a nek lol.

Magu · 02-09-2006, 09:13 AM

We get Plane Shift, an AWESOME buff for pets.

Koehianna · 02-09-2006, 11:34 AM

Yeah, so the question is, what path should you take? :smileyhappy:

I guess of course it really depends on the playstyle, but overall, which is the all-around best choice?

tass · 02-09-2006, 04:26 PM

well i hope the byff is really really awsome cause theres nothing quite like raising 14 dead things around u to kick a monsters [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] lol.

Effen · 02-09-2006, 07:22 PM

I have to say im pretty disspointed by this list of conj AA's.

Ellestil · 02-09-2006, 07:25 PM

With Planar Shift on the Earth pet we won't need a swarm of undead to save us, just one pet will do fine. :smileywink:

Ellestil 60 Conjurer Najena--Shadow Syndicate

Banditman · 02-09-2006, 09:17 PM

holystones wrote:ok well that list is confusing as hell. so let me try to get this all situated. so basicly we get 50 points Yes. and each step requires 8 pojnts to advance No. Each step requires Rank 4 to advance. and to advance fully in 1 path we use nearly all of the points except like 8 or 9 right? No. also what line does anyone think would best suit a conjurer. There are valuable abilities down every path, you must decide what suits YOUR style of play best. Fortunately, it will be possible to change your mind after choosing, though it will have an associated and currently unspecified cost to change your mind. and 1 last question, while scanning the last link I saw that nekroes get a kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] spell that summons all the dead around them like up to 14 i think to attack something do we get anything of the like in elemental form cause that would kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. almist makes me want to roll a nek lol.

Luhai · 02-13-2006, 06:27 PM

I don't quite understand the description of "Arcane Minion".It only works on the fire pet, right?The text says "Your caster pet gains spellcasting and attack haste".The effects say something about increased spell casting time - whats positive about that?...and increased attack speed - I guess thats melee attacks?Is it my bad english or is this spell just crap?It looks like it does all the things I do NOT want my mage pet to do.

Sol-the-Wi · 02-13-2006, 07:42 PM

I believe they've turned casting time into a skill. The higher the skill, the faster the cast.

trenor · 02-13-2006, 08:10 PM

If you conjurors are dissapointed in your aa please go to the illusionist board and notice our 10 plus mellee based aa along with a critical hea and get back to me.

Fiz

Luhai · 02-13-2006, 08:31 PM

Oh, I did...I have an Illusionist alt, so I went to the illu boards and checked the AA system.I don't know if this is a joke or if they are trying really hard to get rid of the chanters in EQ2.

Pru · 02-21-2006, 10:26 PM

It look not interresting theses aa.Only working with a specific pet and not realy realistic.the mage mignon ils almost 2 shoot by a green monter so a damage shied on it look so useless and always run to mele never stay far from the target..I am completely disapointed of theses aa.Only defensive pet look not too bad but so useless in commun use.I prefer the green + compared to theses useless aa.mage aa are only interesting in raid so almost never usable.I don't know how use theses aa for rogue pet.It's pity we can't select from a list points we want to be up for the pet.

DobyMT · 02-21-2006, 11:59 PM

I guess I will go strength/agility....cause I never use a caster pet....too [Removed for Content] as far as hps go now. At least imo... SMILEY

no flames. but yeah, the strength and agility has a few things I guess I could use. I dunno. I guess I shall see here in a few hours.

Gaylon · 02-22-2006, 02:48 AM

I'd give all of these another look they changed most of them late last week.

Dragonsfire

Smeegill · 02-22-2006, 10:58 AM

My 3 cents....

Raid Guy I am, Mage Pet AA's all the way.

But the Air pet or agility AA's would be #2 choice.

If I understand the AA's correclty we get 50 Points Total atm to spend in AA's so most likely only 1 specialization path will be fully utilized.

Fizbiz (the original Fiz)

60 Conj Everfrost

Edit Note: Implode does 2 million in mental damage? seems a "little" high. :smileytongue: Dam guess all thsoe Conjuror haters were right we need nerfed to Sodom.

Message Edited by Smeegill on 02-21-200610:01 PM

Message Edited by Smeegill on 02-21-200610:04 PM

Dail · 02-22-2006, 04:31 PM

well i hope the byff is really really awsome cause theres nothing quite like raising 14 dead things around u to kick a monsters [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] lol.

Actually as a necro I'd much rather have the buff spell from the conjurer line.Can you think of a situation where there are enough corpses still around at the time the cast finishes to make the necro spell useful ? I tried and failed.In an encounter of 5 mobs, usually a max of two carry loot. Those corpses without loot disappear way too fast.

Klanch · 02-22-2006, 08:10 PM

Smeegill wrote:
... Raid Guy I am, Mage Pet AA's all the way. ...

I was thinking the same thing. For me two-boxing a conjurer and necro it looks like I need to decide which will supply the tank and which will supply the mage and then start choosing AA's accordinly. I was hoping to put that decision off until high levels and see which character might be lucky enough to get which Master I pet book.

Mun · 02-23-2006, 09:18 PM

trenor wrote:
If you conjurors are dissapointed in your aa please go to the illusionist board and notice our 10 plus mellee based aa along with a critical hea and get back to me.

Fiz

ouch.

KGr · 02-24-2006, 03:32 AM

Hellfire...that's simply got to be one of the best posts I've ever seen.

Kudos to you.

TangBaBa · 02-26-2006, 05:26 AM

Sticky this please?

SilkenKidden · 02-26-2006, 11:01 AM

Can someone repost this discussion in a thread where we don't have to scroll right and left to read

the messages. I'd love to learn what is being said here but I get dizzy reading it.

I think this happens when you post pictures that are very wide. It sets the width for the thread too wide.

TangBaBa · 02-27-2006, 02:22 AM

Smeegill wrote:
My 3 cents....
Raid Guy I am, Mage Pet AA's all the way.
But the Air pet or agility AA's would be #2 choice.
If I understand the AA's correclty we get 50 Points Total atm to spend in AA's so most likely only 1 specialization path will be fully utilized.
Fizbiz (the original Fiz)
60 Conj Everfrost
Edit Note: Implode does 2 million in mental damage? seems a "little" high. :smileytongue: Dam guess all thsoe Conjuror haters were right we need nerfed to Sodom.

Message Edited by Smeegill on 02-21-200610:01 PM
Message Edited by Smeegill on 02-21-200610:04 PM

Though I do not have this AA (nor will I for some time from the looks of things), I was assuming that the 2 million mental damage was done on your pet, ala Offering doing more damage than your pet has hit points.

I'm guessing that the number is so high so that it won't have to scale with levels, i.e. whatever pet your imploding at level 70 will still definitely be toast by the 2 mill mental whack.

EDIT: fix grammar snafu

EDIT 2: spelling error

Message Edited by TangBaBa on 02-26-200601:23 PM

Message Edited by TangBaBa on 02-26-200601:24 PM

MalevolenceXXX · 03-01-2006, 03:45 AM

Hellfire,Did you take those screenshots on Test, or during Beta? Because my AA's do not look like yours.I took some screenshots of mine, cut out all the distracting junk on the sides, but other than that they are unedited.STRENGTH AA's

DEXTERITY AA's

STAMINA AA's

WISDOM AA's

INTELLIGENCE AA's

bcc123000 · 03-01-2006, 05:23 AM

Quick questions on "Shockwave", the 1st ability in the STAMINA line...

(I chose this line to spec in, since I am almost always solo with my trusty earth pet)

1) This is listed as a "passive" ability, meaning I don't cast it, correct? I did not see an icon pop up under "spells" or "abilities" when I chose this...

2) Does this affect the target only, enconuter only, or AoE? I ask because the description notes "target" and then later on notes "enemies in the area"

This is concerning because if it is passive, meaning that it just goes off on its own while the pet is fighting, and if it's AoE (not limited to encounter)..... well, you see my concern... hehe

Thanks

PS.. also, is the STA line good for a soloing conjuror? Of course, if this ability is AoE (outside encounter), then I must re-spec immediately SMILEY

)

Message Edited by bcc123000 on 02-28-200604:25 PM

Janl · 03-01-2006, 06:56 PM

The pictures Hellfire had posted earlier were indeed from beta. They have been changed several times since they were originally posted.

Loral · 03-01-2006, 08:54 PM

A nice thing that could help everyone would be to have screenshots (or just the precise stats) of every ability at rank 4 and rank 8. This would give us a very handy way to compare the abilities, and make enlighted choices in our skills. Also, it would show us if getting to rank 8 is worth the investment.

If we all get to it, it is something we can easily pull as a community.

zubov · 03-02-2006, 02:04 AM

Is this new feature (AA) only available through KOS?

02-09-2006, 08:16 AM	#1
hellfire Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NY Posts: 1,842	here is brief overview as well as SS of abilitys.lets try to keep the AA discution here if we can.anyone in beta add what ya want.im sure X will do a write up also.i posted firstly onto summonertower but decided to put it here also. starting at lev 20 you will be able to gain achievement xp to be used to acuire acivevment abilitys.you get AA xp by either dinging a level,completeing quests,finding rare treasure,killing various bosses,discovering new places in travels.you DO NOT gain AA xp from general xp gain so there isnt a certain percentage to put into AA advancement as in eq1 so it doesnt apply here. max AA points you can gain is 50.there are 5 paths you can take in the AA tree.first path is streanth followed byagility,stamina,wisdom and then finally intel. you can use your AA in any way you wish into any path of the tree up to the max allowed of 50 points.you can also fully unlock 2 complet paths of the tree by putting 24 points into each tree path.or you can completely max one path if wish to maximize that paths abilitys.the choice is yours. the abilitys for path 1 strenth abilitys for path 2 agility abilitys for path 3 stamina abilitys for path 4 wisdom abilitys for path 5 intel Message Edited by hellfire on 02-08-200607:21 PM __________________ Summoner pets are 1/3 the dps of a summoner and yet our stats and modifiers do not affect them.Since a pet is 1/3 a summoners dps,a summoner receives 2/3 benefit from gear when compared to any other class. SHARED STATS AND MODIFIERS ARE A MUST! FIX SUMMONERS IN 08! FIX SUMMONERS IN 09! FIX SUMMONERS IN 10! 2011 and Finally we are Fixed! /Rides off into the sunset

02-09-2006, 08:20 AM	#3
Romka Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 169	Xalmat wrote:Way ahead of you:http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=29&message.id=11454 Way ahead of you:http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=30&message.id=17498 __________________

02-09-2006, 07:22 PM	#8
Effen Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 9	I have to say im pretty disspointed by this list of conj AA's. __________________ Effendi 70 Conjuror Guild Leader Empire "Deos fortioribus adesse."

02-09-2006, 07:25 PM	#9
Ellestil Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 142	With Planar Shift on the Earth pet we won't need a swarm of undead to save us, just one pet will do fine. :smileywink: Ellestil 60 Conjurer Najena--Shadow Syndicate __________________ It's not the damage that kills ya, it's the developer behind the damage program!

02-09-2006, 09:17 PM	#10
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	holystones wrote:ok well that list is confusing as hell. so let me try to get this all situated. so basicly we get 50 points Yes. and each step requires 8 pojnts to advance No. Each step requires Rank 4 to advance. and to advance fully in 1 path we use nearly all of the points except like 8 or 9 right? No. also what line does anyone think would best suit a conjurer. There are valuable abilities down every path, you must decide what suits YOUR style of play best. Fortunately, it will be possible to change your mind after choosing, though it will have an associated and currently unspecified cost to change your mind. and 1 last question, while scanning the last link I saw that nekroes get a kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] spell that summons all the dead around them like up to 14 i think to attack something do we get anything of the like in elemental form cause that would kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. almist makes me want to roll a nek lol. __________________

02-09-2006, 08:17 AM	#2
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02-09-2006, 08:59 AM	#4
tass Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,097	ok well that list is confusing as hell. so let me try to get this all situated. so basicly we get 50 points and each step requires 8 pojnts to advance and to advance fully in 1 path we use nearly all of the points except like 8 or 9 right? also what line does anyone think would best suit a conjurer. and 1 last question, while scanning the last link I saw that nekroes get a kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] spell that summons all the dead around them like up to 14 i think to attack something do we get anything of the like in elemental form cause that would kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. almist makes me want to roll a nek lol.

02-09-2006, 09:13 AM	#5
Magu Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,332	We get Plane Shift, an AWESOME buff for pets.

02-09-2006, 11:34 AM	#6
Koehianna Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 295	Yeah, so the question is, what path should you take? :smileyhappy: I guess of course it really depends on the playstyle, but overall, which is the all-around best choice?

02-09-2006, 04:26 PM	#7
tass Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,097	well i hope the byff is really really awsome cause theres nothing quite like raising 14 dead things around u to kick a monsters [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] lol.

02-13-2006, 06:27 PM	#11
Luhai Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 679	I don't quite understand the description of "Arcane Minion".It only works on the fire pet, right?The text says "Your caster pet gains spellcasting and attack haste".The effects say something about increased spell casting time - whats positive about that?...and increased attack speed - I guess thats melee attacks?Is it my bad english or is this spell just crap?It looks like it does all the things I do NOT want my mage pet to do. __________________

02-13-2006, 07:42 PM	#12
Sol-the-Wi Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 84	I believe they've turned casting time into a skill. The higher the skill, the faster the cast.

02-13-2006, 08:10 PM	#13
trenor Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 199	If you conjurors are dissapointed in your aa please go to the illusionist board and notice our 10 plus mellee based aa along with a critical hea and get back to me. Fiz

02-13-2006, 08:31 PM	#14
Luhai Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 679	Oh, I did...I have an Illusionist alt, so I went to the illu boards and checked the AA system.I don't know if this is a joke or if they are trying really hard to get rid of the chanters in EQ2. __________________

02-21-2006, 10:26 PM	#15
Pru Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Grise Pierre Posts: 566	It look not interresting theses aa.Only working with a specific pet and not realy realistic.the mage mignon ils almost 2 shoot by a green monter so a damage shied on it look so useless and always run to mele never stay far from the target..I am completely disapointed of theses aa.Only defensive pet look not too bad but so useless in commun use.I prefer the green + compared to theses useless aa.mage aa are only interesting in raid so almost never usable.I don't know how use theses aa for rogue pet.It's pity we can't select from a list points we want to be up for the pet. __________________ Pruut le nain Par Rallos Zek ce soir le sang vas couler a flot.

02-21-2006, 11:59 PM	#16
DobyMT Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 568	I guess I will go strength/agility....cause I never use a caster pet....too [Removed for Content] as far as hps go now. At least imo... no flames. but yeah, the strength and agility has a few things I guess I could use. I dunno. I guess I shall see here in a few hours.

02-22-2006, 02:48 AM	#17
Gaylon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 66	I'd give all of these another look they changed most of them late last week. Dragonsfire

02-22-2006, 10:58 AM	#18
Smeegill Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 65	My 3 cents.... Raid Guy I am, Mage Pet AA's all the way. But the Air pet or agility AA's would be #2 choice. If I understand the AA's correclty we get 50 Points Total atm to spend in AA's so most likely only 1 specialization path will be fully utilized. Fizbiz (the original Fiz) 60 Conj Everfrost Edit Note: Implode does 2 million in mental damage? seems a "little" high. :smileytongue: Dam guess all thsoe Conjuror haters were right we need nerfed to Sodom. Message Edited by Smeegill on 02-21-200610:01 PM Message Edited by Smeegill on 02-21-200610:04 PM

02-22-2006, 04:31 PM	#19
Dail Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15	well i hope the byff is really really awsome cause theres nothing quite like raising 14 dead things around u to kick a monsters [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] lol. Actually as a necro I'd much rather have the buff spell from the conjurer line.Can you think of a situation where there are enough corpses still around at the time the cast finishes to make the necro spell useful ? I tried and failed.In an encounter of 5 mobs, usually a max of two carry loot. Those corpses without loot disappear way too fast.

02-22-2006, 08:10 PM	#20
Klanch Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 89	Smeegill wrote: ... Raid Guy I am, Mage Pet AA's all the way. ... I was thinking the same thing. For me two-boxing a conjurer and necro it looks like I need to decide which will supply the tank and which will supply the mage and then start choosing AA's accordinly. I was hoping to put that decision off until high levels and see which character might be lucky enough to get which Master I pet book.

02-23-2006, 09:18 PM	#21
Mun Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2	trenor wrote: If you conjurors are dissapointed in your aa please go to the illusionist board and notice our 10 plus mellee based aa along with a critical hea and get back to me. Fiz ouch.

02-24-2006, 03:32 AM	#22
KGr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 61	Hellfire...that's simply got to be one of the best posts I've ever seen. Kudos to you. __________________ Help stamp out and abolish redundancy.

02-26-2006, 05:26 AM	#23
TangBaBa Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 103	Sticky this please? __________________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Level 70 Delusionist, IRL

02-26-2006, 11:01 AM	#24
SilkenKidden Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,039	Can someone repost this discussion in a thread where we don't have to scroll right and left to read the messages. I'd love to learn what is being said here but I get dizzy reading it. I think this happens when you post pictures that are very wide. It sets the width for the thread too wide.

02-27-2006, 02:22 AM	#25
TangBaBa Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 103	Smeegill wrote: My 3 cents.... Raid Guy I am, Mage Pet AA's all the way. But the Air pet or agility AA's would be #2 choice. If I understand the AA's correclty we get 50 Points Total atm to spend in AA's so most likely only 1 specialization path will be fully utilized. Fizbiz (the original Fiz) 60 Conj Everfrost Edit Note: Implode does 2 million in mental damage? seems a "little" high. :smileytongue: Dam guess all thsoe Conjuror haters were right we need nerfed to Sodom. Message Edited by Smeegill on 02-21-200610:01 PM Message Edited by Smeegill on 02-21-200610:04 PM Though I do not have this AA (nor will I for some time from the looks of things), I was assuming that the 2 million mental damage was done on your pet, ala Offering doing more damage than your pet has hit points. I'm guessing that the number is so high so that it won't have to scale with levels, i.e. whatever pet your imploding at level 70 will still definitely be toast by the 2 mill mental whack. EDIT: fix grammar snafu EDIT 2: spelling error Message Edited by TangBaBa on 02-26-200601:23 PM Message Edited by TangBaBa on 02-26-200601:24 PM __________________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Level 70 Delusionist, IRL

03-01-2006, 03:45 AM	#26
MalevolenceXXX Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 42	Hellfire,Did you take those screenshots on Test, or during Beta? Because my AA's do not look like yours.I took some screenshots of mine, cut out all the distracting junk on the sides, but other than that they are unedited.STRENGTH AA'sDEXTERITY AA'sSTAMINA AA'sWISDOM AA'sINTELLIGENCE AA's __________________

03-01-2006, 05:23 AM	#27
bcc123000 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 77	Quick questions on "Shockwave", the 1st ability in the STAMINA line... (I chose this line to spec in, since I am almost always solo with my trusty earth pet) 1) This is listed as a "passive" ability, meaning I don't cast it, correct? I did not see an icon pop up under "spells" or "abilities" when I chose this... 2) Does this affect the target only, enconuter only, or AoE? I ask because the description notes "target" and then later on notes "enemies in the area" This is concerning because if it is passive, meaning that it just goes off on its own while the pet is fighting, and if it's AoE (not limited to encounter)..... well, you see my concern... hehe Thanks PS.. also, is the STA line good for a soloing conjuror? Of course, if this ability is AoE (outside encounter), then I must re-spec immediately ) Message Edited by bcc123000 on 02-28-200604:25 PM

03-01-2006, 06:56 PM	#28
Janl Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 290	The pictures Hellfire had posted earlier were indeed from beta. They have been changed several times since they were originally posted. __________________

03-01-2006, 08:54 PM	#29
Loral General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 614	A nice thing that could help everyone would be to have screenshots (or just the precise stats) of every ability at rank 4 and rank 8. This would give us a very handy way to compare the abilities, and make enlighted choices in our skills. Also, it would show us if getting to rank 8 is worth the investment. If we all get to it, it is something we can easily pull as a community. __________________

03-02-2006, 02:04 AM	#30
zubov Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13	Is this new feature (AA) only available through KOS?