Call of Heroes

wullailhuit · 09-23-2005, 05:51 PM

I recently looted a Call Of Heroes adept 3 artisan scroll , has anyone tried making/getting this yet ? , I'd love to find out what the advantage versus the adept 1, For the life of me I can't think of an advantage there would be in wasting a pearl on this...

Message Edited by wullailhuit on 09-23-2005 02:52 PM

Xalmat · 09-23-2005, 06:11 PM

The advantage of Adept 3 over Adept 1:You can make Adept 3 anytime you pick up a rare. Adept 1 only drops off mobs.Disadvantage of Adept 3 over Adept 1:It costs a rare to make Adept 3. Adept 1 is free if you loot it.Beyond that, there is no difference whatsoever.

wullailhuit · 09-26-2005, 10:52 AM

Has anyone actually SEEN CoH adept 1 drop anywhere ? I have seen every other spell drop so far....but never that one. *grumbles* I could have used that spell yesterday too. */grumbles*

BigRedWo · 09-26-2005, 04:08 PM

I read somewhere that you can pick up the app2 from one of the DE's in Nek. Supposedly after doing a few quests to gain trust with the group. I haven't been to Nek lately, so have't been able to confirm yet. I want CoH!

Xalmat · 09-26-2005, 05:09 PM

BigRedWood wrote:I read somewhere that you can pick up the app2 from one of the DE's in Nek. Supposedly after doing a few quests to gain trust with the group. I haven't been to Nek lately, so have't been able to confirm yet. I want CoH!

The spell you are thinking of is Swarm of Bats, NOT Call of the Hero.

BigRedWo · 09-26-2005, 06:28 PM

DOH

Nezumigami · 09-26-2005, 07:10 PM

We don't need another hero! All we need is life beyond ..Thunderdome!

DragonMaster2385 · 09-26-2005, 08:37 PM

This is a level 52 spell, right? Can you get it from anyone that sells the 50+ spells in Maj'Dul (in your choosen court)? I am super excited to get the spell and try it out, but I can't find anyone that knows anything about it. Also, where to get the required item at?

Xalmat · 09-26-2005, 08:57 PM

No, you can only buy the recipe from the courts.

DragonMaster2385 · 09-26-2005, 09:08 PM

Thanks, I'll look forward to buying this from the Cout of Truth. Also, my last question was not answered. An item is consumed whenver using this spell, but where can I buy the item from? Are they sold at the same place that sells the spell?

Janl · 09-26-2005, 09:10 PM

The pearls needed can be purchased from most vendors.

Magu · 09-27-2005, 08:34 AM

Good luck with that, I can't find Call of the Hero in Truth's merchant.

Xalmat · 09-27-2005, 09:57 AM

You need Ally faction to buy it from the vendor in the courts.

Thoc · 09-27-2005, 11:11 AM

Just a slight clarification. I just became "Warmly" faction tonight with Court of the Blades. The spell is now available to me in the form of an artisan scroll. Just wanted to claify that you only need Warmly faction.

Magu · 09-27-2005, 01:33 PM

I have Ally faction, thank you, and it still isn't visible in my list. Maybe it's busted in Truth?

Message Edited by Magus` on 09-27-2005 02:33 AM

Sanamien · 09-27-2005, 02:32 PM

No, it isn't. You CAN'T buy the actual spell in the court. What you can buy is the recipe to CRAFT an adept 3 from a spell rare.

Magu · 09-27-2005, 02:44 PM

Then it's busted.

BigRedWo · 09-27-2005, 05:56 PM

I haven't found the recipe in the Blades court, and I also have ally faction.

ambrial · 09-27-2005, 06:22 PM

I have Ally and still not seeing the recipe either in Truth.

Janl · 09-27-2005, 09:00 PM

I have ally faction with Court of Truth also.. Just now went in game and checked. Sure enough on Bursur Ructor he has Ancient Teachings of: Call of the Hero, the recipe for an Adept III Call of the Hero.

Xalmat · 09-27-2005, 09:09 PM

That's in the Court of Truth, by the way.

wullailhuit · 09-27-2005, 10:01 PM

And it's bugged (again) Text description says person in your group OR raid. Spell Details below it say Group Friend...No mention of raid. I'm hoping it's supposed to be raid also , I don't want to be passed around groups to move someone who LDd or lagged behind in a raid.

Janl · 09-27-2005, 10:22 PM

It's supposed to be group only I believe.

Magu · 09-28-2005, 12:35 AM

I don't want the useless recipe, I want a damned app2 for when I ding so I don't have to waste a rare on it.

Message Edited by Magus` on 09-27-2005 01:35 PM

Xalmat · 09-28-2005, 12:55 AM

Magus` wrote:
I don't want the useless recipe, I want a damned app2 for when I ding so I don't have to waste a rare on it.

You aren't going to get it then. None of the 52, 55, or 58 Ancient Teachings spells are available as App2, including Call of the Hero.

Steven9 · 09-28-2005, 03:39 AM

I just got call of the hero adept 3 made for me and its a waste imo. Summon only 1person to you in same zone is stupid since you got to pay to do it. Scout dont have to pay for evac and evac is way better imo. I think you should be able to summon some1 thru zones just not thru instances and it have a higer recast time.

Jgok · 09-28-2005, 05:39 AM

Steven987 wrote:
I just got call of the hero adept 3 made for me and its a waste imo. Summon only 1person to you in same zone is stupid since you got to pay to do it. Scout dont have to pay for evac and evac is way better imo. I think you should be able to summon some1 thru zones just not thru instances and it have a higer recast time.

I'll bite.

Your group of 5 is in Solusek's Eye, and you have fought all the way down to the entrance to the Bastion of Flames, when your buddy logs on and says "Hey, can I join you?"

You have three choices...

1.) Fight all the way back to the beginning of the zone, and then back to the BoF zoneline.
2.) If your friend can invis, wait for him by the zoneline, and pray he doesn't pass a see invis mob.
3.) Spend a measly 1g and cast a spell to summon him straight to you and zone right in.

I know which one I'd do...

And name me another class that can do that...
Sure, a Scout, Wizard, or Warden can evac the group to the zoneline, but now you've got to fight all the way back down again... With CotH, the latecomer can pop up right where the group is.

If you don't want to waste a rare on it, you can either hope and pray you get an Adept 1 (none have dropped yet, btw), or just ignore the fact that the spell exists.

wullailhuit · 09-28-2005, 11:09 AM

I don't think there are app 1 versions of these 'special' spells for any class...they are only available as adept 3's

Janl · 09-28-2005, 03:07 PM

Well, just out of curiosity....why did you have an Adept III crafted for you then? If you frequent either of the message boards, you should have been aware of what the spell did. It's not like you have the spell made and randomly get a different effect than everyone else.

j · 09-28-2005, 04:12 PM

the spell itself is pretty lame , the cost is to high and the recast timer is to high . Both need to be tweaked. As for as i can see we still don't have a spell to make us needed in groups . Sure we are usefull if other classes aren't around . But we aren't needed .

09-23-2005, 05:51 PM	#1
wullailhuit Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,007	I recently looted a Call Of Heroes adept 3 artisan scroll , has anyone tried making/getting this yet ? , I'd love to find out what the advantage versus the adept 1, For the life of me I can't think of an advantage there would be in wasting a pearl on this... Message Edited by wullailhuit on 09-23-2005 02:52 PM __________________

09-23-2005, 06:11 PM	#2
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	The advantage of Adept 3 over Adept 1:You can make Adept 3 anytime you pick up a rare. Adept 1 only drops off mobs.Disadvantage of Adept 3 over Adept 1:It costs a rare to make Adept 3. Adept 1 is free if you loot it.Beyond that, there is no difference whatsoever. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

09-26-2005, 10:52 AM	#3
wullailhuit Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,007	Has anyone actually SEEN CoH adept 1 drop anywhere ? I have seen every other spell drop so far....but never that one. grumbles I could have used that spell yesterday too. /grumbles __________________

09-26-2005, 04:08 PM	#4
BigRedWo Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 120	I read somewhere that you can pick up the app2 from one of the DE's in Nek. Supposedly after doing a few quests to gain trust with the group. I haven't been to Nek lately, so have't been able to confirm yet. I want CoH! __________________

09-26-2005, 05:09 PM	#5
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	BigRedWood wrote:I read somewhere that you can pick up the app2 from one of the DE's in Nek. Supposedly after doing a few quests to gain trust with the group. I haven't been to Nek lately, so have't been able to confirm yet. I want CoH! The spell you are thinking of is Swarm of Bats, NOT Call of the Hero. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

09-26-2005, 06:28 PM	#6
BigRedWo Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 120	DOH __________________

09-26-2005, 07:10 PM	#7
Nezumigami Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 81	We don't need another hero! All we need is life beyond ..Thunderdome! __________________ Dilly Jumbelly - 70 Warden (semi-retired) Lhegpeg Rottun'Trouserz 70Handsome first Troll Swashbuckler on Najena Baubbleshire Najena

09-26-2005, 08:37 PM	#8
DragonMaster2385 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,063	This is a level 52 spell, right? Can you get it from anyone that sells the 50+ spells in Maj'Dul (in your choosen court)? I am super excited to get the spell and try it out, but I can't find anyone that knows anything about it. Also, where to get the required item at?

09-26-2005, 08:57 PM	#9
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	No, you can only buy the recipe from the courts. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

09-26-2005, 09:08 PM	#10
DragonMaster2385 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,063	Thanks, I'll look forward to buying this from the Cout of Truth. Also, my last question was not answered. An item is consumed whenver using this spell, but where can I buy the item from? Are they sold at the same place that sells the spell?

09-26-2005, 09:10 PM	#11
Janl Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 290	The pearls needed can be purchased from most vendors. __________________

09-27-2005, 08:34 AM	#12
Magu Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,332	Good luck with that, I can't find Call of the Hero in Truth's merchant.

09-27-2005, 09:57 AM	#13
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	You need Ally faction to buy it from the vendor in the courts. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

09-27-2005, 11:11 AM	#14
Thoc General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59	Just a slight clarification. I just became "Warmly" faction tonight with Court of the Blades. The spell is now available to me in the form of an artisan scroll. Just wanted to claify that you only need Warmly faction. __________________ Thocar --Kithicor --Lvl 70 Troll Conjuror Ajeo --Kithicor -- Lvl 70 Brigand

09-27-2005, 01:33 PM	#15
Magu Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,332	I have Ally faction, thank you, and it still isn't visible in my list. Maybe it's busted in Truth? Message Edited by Magus` on 09-27-2005 02:33 AM

09-27-2005, 02:32 PM	#16
Sanamien Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 124	No, it isn't. You CAN'T buy the actual spell in the court. What you can buy is the recipe to CRAFT an adept 3 from a spell rare. __________________ Bellany 71 Swashbuckler

09-27-2005, 02:44 PM	#17
Magu Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,332	Then it's busted.

09-27-2005, 05:56 PM	#18
BigRedWo Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 120	I haven't found the recipe in the Blades court, and I also have ally faction. __________________

09-27-2005, 06:22 PM	#19
ambrial Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 36	I have Ally and still not seeing the recipe either in Truth.

09-27-2005, 09:00 PM	#20
Janl Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 290	I have ally faction with Court of Truth also.. Just now went in game and checked. Sure enough on Bursur Ructor he has Ancient Teachings of: Call of the Hero, the recipe for an Adept III Call of the Hero. __________________

09-27-2005, 09:09 PM	#21
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	That's in the Court of Truth, by the way. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

09-27-2005, 10:01 PM	#22
wullailhuit Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,007	And it's bugged (again) Text description says person in your group OR raid. Spell Details below it say Group Friend...No mention of raid. I'm hoping it's supposed to be raid also , I don't want to be passed around groups to move someone who LDd or lagged behind in a raid. __________________

09-27-2005, 10:22 PM	#23
Janl Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 290	It's supposed to be group only I believe. __________________

09-28-2005, 12:35 AM	#24
Magu Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,332	I don't want the useless recipe, I want a damned app2 for when I ding so I don't have to waste a rare on it. Message Edited by Magus` on 09-27-2005 01:35 PM

09-28-2005, 12:55 AM	#25
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	Magus` wrote: I don't want the useless recipe, I want a damned app2 for when I ding so I don't have to waste a rare on it. You aren't going to get it then. None of the 52, 55, or 58 Ancient Teachings spells are available as App2, including Call of the Hero. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

09-28-2005, 03:39 AM	#26
Steven9 General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 32	I just got call of the hero adept 3 made for me and its a waste imo. Summon only 1person to you in same zone is stupid since you got to pay to do it. Scout dont have to pay for evac and evac is way better imo. I think you should be able to summon some1 thru zones just not thru instances and it have a higer recast time. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kenman wrote: It's because they're SOE. They completely revamp perfectly working systems instead of fixing actual bugs, it's like their trademark. . --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

09-28-2005, 05:39 AM	#27
Jgok Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 329	Steven987 wrote: I just got call of the hero adept 3 made for me and its a waste imo. Summon only 1person to you in same zone is stupid since you got to pay to do it. Scout dont have to pay for evac and evac is way better imo. I think you should be able to summon some1 thru zones just not thru instances and it have a higer recast time. I'll bite. Your group of 5 is in Solusek's Eye, and you have fought all the way down to the entrance to the Bastion of Flames, when your buddy logs on and says "Hey, can I join you?" You have three choices... 1.) Fight all the way back to the beginning of the zone, and then back to the BoF zoneline. 2.) If your friend can invis, wait for him by the zoneline, and pray he doesn't pass a see invis mob. 3.) Spend a measly 1g and cast a spell to summon him straight to you and zone right in. I know which one I'd do... And name me another class that can do that... Sure, a Scout, Wizard, or Warden can evac the group to the zoneline, but now you've got to fight all the way back down again... With CotH, the latecomer can pop up right where the group is. If you don't want to waste a rare on it, you can either hope and pray you get an Adept 1 (none have dropped yet, btw), or just ignore the fact that the spell exists. __________________

09-28-2005, 11:09 AM	#28
wullailhuit Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,007	I don't think there are app 1 versions of these 'special' spells for any class...they are only available as adept 3's __________________

09-28-2005, 03:07 PM	#29
Janl Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 290	Well, just out of curiosity....why did you have an Adept III crafted for you then? If you frequent either of the message boards, you should have been aware of what the spell did. It's not like you have the spell made and randomly get a different effect than everyone else. __________________

09-28-2005, 04:12 PM	#30
j Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 210	the spell itself is pretty lame , the cost is to high and the recast timer is to high . Both need to be tweaked. As for as i can see we still don't have a spell to make us needed in groups . Sure we are usefull if other classes aren't around . But we aren't needed .