lvl 50 conjurors on test

Wil · 08-04-2005, 10:59 PM

I am curious with new combat system coming to test this week how many if any lvl 50 conjurors do we have on test server... I think we are expecting quite a few changes and i would love to see some feedback from those lvl 50 on test on what we can expect for live... if your out there please post feedback when you can

YanariiFV · 08-04-2005, 11:56 PM

As soon as the combat and skill changes hit Test, those of us beta-testing are allowed to speak about them as well, and there are quite a few of us in beta, so you're bound to be informed :smileywink:

Message Edited by YanariiFV on 08-04-2005 09:56 PM

Wil · 08-05-2005, 02:51 AM

appreciate the info... was getting worried how much I am gonna have to relearn how to play my class or if things work the same just better or worse.

soulrais · 08-05-2005, 07:35 AM

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=comtest&message.id=2

they are now there or lest some of them )

so spill the beans ....

Xalmat · 08-05-2005, 09:34 AM

Full Conjuror Spell List, post combat changes.

Vashn · 08-05-2005, 11:00 AM

Why do I feel a nerf coming on?...

I finally find a class I like in eq2 and it's about to get nerfed bad I bet..

Well ok so i'll withhold final but just saying... I have been violated by the nerf bat

before and it's not fun...

Wil · 08-05-2005, 06:08 PM

posted that link and info to feedback board hope you don't mind just wanted to get it where more of us could see it... and thanks for putting that together

Cronocool · 08-05-2005, 08:48 PM

UHOH We use up more Concentration slots than before I hope its worth it.

Cronocool · 08-05-2005, 08:54 PM

OMG I just read threw the list were screwed we can only cast like 2 buffs at a time what were you thinking soe klook at all the Concentration bars!!!!!!!!!

Cronocool · 08-05-2005, 08:55 PM

Ok Fine maybe its not that bad but the spells better do tons more than they did before considering some acculy take up 3 concetration bars WOW.:smileywink:

TheKraken · 08-06-2005, 02:04 AM

I had put my enchanter on hold thinking I might pick him back up after the big combat patch, and have instead concentrated on my conjuror since he's well-balanced for both solo and group play. Why do I feel this will soon be reversed? I already feel my conjuror heading toward a storage space.

Why such massive changes for conjuror? Of all the professions I've tried so far (9 and counting), conjuror by far has seemed the most complete. Has there really been anyone asking for stuff like this? Altogether I'm getting flashbacks of the Star Wars Galaxies "Combat Upgrade Patch" which changed too much, gave us things we didn't want, and ultimately drove people from the game.

Eyes_of_Truth · 08-06-2005, 04:49 AM

Oh hush honestly!

Conjuror is WAYYYYY better on test, dont believe me then make one lol i witnessed our level 20 app4 fire pet with app4 offensive buff doing 120, 80, and 60 nuke sin RAPID succession, at one point it didnt charge mobs it would sit there and chain cast ^^

Concentration is perfect on *most* spells.

Forcess you to make stratigic disisions. Cast pet damage boost, lowering it's defense, and put up magi shielding and tank while pet DPSes? Put on the ALL resist buff on group? Put DS on tank? Earth pet with defensive + taunt pet buff?

So many options now, it's just that you cant have ALL going at same time. And you can change in middle of fight, like drop a few buffs and cast magi shielding if it looks rough (AOE melees and such)

Would say more but i have to go now,

Toodles!

PS: as a parting note, Seisism = AWSOME now, at 20 my friend's does 80-190 perosnal body AOE + knock down (like 1 or 2 sec stun i think) and chance to blind mobs, witha recast of 20 seconds! AND IT LOOKS AWSOME = )

Dont be afraid of changes i ahve had almsot no complaints except for invis costing con and little things like that.

Eynki · 08-06-2005, 05:48 AM

Eyes_of_Truth wrote:

Oh hush honestly!

Conjuror is WAYYYYY better on test, dont believe me then make one lol i witnessed our level 20 app4 fire pet with app4 offensive buff doing 120, 80, and 60 nuke sin RAPID succession, at one point it didnt charge mobs it would sit there and chain cast ^^

Concentration is perfect on *most* spells.

Forcess you to make stratigic disisions. Cast pet damage boost, lowering it's defense, and put up magi shielding and tank while pet DPSes? Put on the ALL resist buff on group? Put DS on tank? Earth pet with defensive + taunt pet buff?

So many options now, it's just that you cant have ALL going at same time. And you can change in middle of fight, like drop a few buffs and cast magi shielding if it looks rough (AOE melees and such)

Would say more but i have to go now,

Toodles!

PS: as a parting note, Seisism = AWSOME now, at 20 my friend's does 80-190 perosnal body AOE + knock down (like 1 or 2 sec stun i think) and chance to blind mobs, witha recast of 20 seconds! AND IT LOOKS AWSOME = )

Dont be afraid of changes i ahve had almsot no complaints except for invis costing con and little things like that.

I am not flaming you.

The stuff you just talked about is nothing new. the level 20 fire pet always did that much damage. the seism you described is only 10 damage more than it used to be. and the nurf on what few buffs we had is just rediculas.

From the post moorgard made on the on the combat changes it sounded like we were getting a significant increase in some DPS. which is good however they balanced that with the nurf bat on the only 3 group buffs we had.

ohh well well see sson enough i guess

Eyes_of_Truth · 08-06-2005, 06:15 AM

nooooo firepet didnt usto do that much...app4 doing well over what adept1 doe son live, and casting avour 3 times faster too.

And our buffs are good dont knock them, we just have to choose what to use and when, and i like that.

If single target buffs that are procs arnt as strong as they should be, then up their power or remove the con, it's not realy a drastic problem.

All and all im greatly enjoying the class, and sesism im prity sure didnt do as much damage as it does now, since it can be used every 20 seconds insted of a DOT stretching that same damage out longer (granted it doesnt have the reist debuff, but we dont do magic damage mainly anyway, we are crushing damage nukers and heat based later on with our dots, and a few cold based)

Whine if you want, im love'n it!

Toodles!

trigger3 · 08-06-2005, 09:25 AM

From what I just read Siesm got a massive damage upgrade. At lv 42 with app4 siesm it does like 30ish IIRC.

Firepet didnt do anything like what was described in test either, I seriously dunno what you're talking about.

Back to the Siesm subject, appartently it's on the same timer is Tremor, which I'm sure means that Tremor got a massive damage upgrade aswell.

I'm looking forward to the new combat changes =)

K'aldar · 08-06-2005, 12:46 PM

i'm not on test but my 43 conj's Igneous Adept at adept I barely does more dmg than he describes the lvl 20 pet at appr IV did on test.. and mine sure as hell doesn't cast fast.

JesterofJusti · 08-07-2005, 07:59 AM

trigger333 wrote:

From what I just read Siesm got a massive damage upgrade. At lv 42 with app4 siesm it does like 30ish IIRC.

...

Back to the Siesm subject, appartently it's on the same timer is Tremor, which I'm sure means that Tremor got a massive damage upgrade aswell.

From what I understand, Seism is no longer a DoT. So instead of 6 (I think) ticks of 30ish encounter based over 24(?) seconds, you get 190ish (depending on mob con and int and whatnot) point blank with a 20 second recast. Instead of a debuff you get a short stun/interrupt. And if it's on the same timer as Tremor, it will no longer stack with Tremor. Hard for me to say what the overall effect will be without testing it.

Overall, I like some of what I've read, dislike some. Still have a ton of questions. From all the doomsaying on the boards for all classes, I wish SOE had kept this info locked up until it was finished.

Xalmat · 08-07-2005, 08:07 PM

JesterofJustice wrote:
Overall, I like some of what I've read, dislike some. Still have a ton of questions. From all the doomsaying on the boards for all classes, I wish SOE had kept this info locked up until it was finished.

Ask away, I'm as familiar as any other 50 Conjuror that's tested the changes (and still testing, I might add)

Thmy · 08-08-2005, 11:08 AM

take a look on test and see if our level 50.0 spells still use a t-5 ruby and if the 50.6 do also

I want to know if it is better to make our 50 spell adept-3 NOW or if we can wait.

--------------- the current 50 ones --------------------

50 - Flash Flood - Cold Encounter-based AoE
**CHANGE** 50 - Flameshield - Single-target heat damage shield
**CHANGE** 50 - Blazing Presence - Grants massive proc to pet for a short time.

-------------- lifted from a Xalmat post ------------------

Xalmat · 08-08-2005, 05:51 PM

Thmy wrote:
take a look on test and see if our level 50.0 spells still use a t-5 ruby and if the 50.6 do also

I want to know if it is better to make our 50 spell adept-3 NOW or if we can wait.

--------------- the current 50 ones --------------------

50 - Flash Flood - Cold Encounter-based AoE
**CHANGE** 50 - Flameshield - Single-target heat damage shield
**CHANGE** 50 - Blazing Presence - Grants massive proc to pet for a short time.

-------------- lifted from a Xalmat post ------------------

I can't answer about 50.6 because it is bound by the NDA.

killer2019 · 08-09-2005, 07:48 AM

thx guys,

do you guys think i will make it out of test severs??

killer2019 · 08-09-2005, 08:07 AM

im new at this anywho i was trying to say was:

do you think the conj stuff will make it off the test sever? and if so how so you think this will help all conjs in PvP becouse alot of people are saying the conj's are going to be bad at PvP but with this thing on the test sever im thinking we are going to be good at PvP.

Xalmat · 08-09-2005, 08:22 AM

The combat changes are heading to the Live servers on September 12th. Because they are still a work on progress, they are only on the Beta and Test servers until then.

killer2019 · 08-09-2005, 06:13 PM

cool thx

Tuthmosis I · 08-09-2005, 07:51 PM

Have a question for you Xalmut i recently acquired a master 1 magi pet on a raid and i read on the necroboard that fire pets will stay back and cast instead of trying to act like fighters any truth to that since you seems to know a great deal about the changes because that is one of the main problems with caster pets and there terriable hp Mobius level 50 Conjuror on Intouthule hopefully about the combat changes

Xalmat · 08-09-2005, 07:57 PM

What's your question?

killer2019 · 08-09-2005, 08:00 PM

i have that same spell in master is very good. the master is 1/4 of the app and it gives you 4 pets and the app gives you 2 SMILEY

Xalmat · 08-09-2005, 08:26 PM

Fire pets still rush to attack their target. However, they do some incredible damage now (mobs die before they can kill the pet off), and as long as you're able to heal it won't be a problem. I'll have a post outlining the damage changes to the pets very shortly.

Azex · 08-09-2005, 09:58 PM

Wow thank you Xalmat im very excited to see what you have to say:smileyhappy:

Alexia Butcherblock Unitas LvL 50 conj.

Runelaron · 08-10-2005, 02:54 AM

What I realy wan't to know now is how the whole Defence and Offece spells work.. is realy interesting.... anyone got some info on them?

08-04-2005, 10:59 PM	#1
Wil Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	I am curious with new combat system coming to test this week how many if any lvl 50 conjurors do we have on test server... I think we are expecting quite a few changes and i would love to see some feedback from those lvl 50 on test on what we can expect for live... if your out there please post feedback when you can __________________ Wilyn Runecarver - Level 60 Conjuror Unity - SplitPaw

08-04-2005, 11:56 PM	#2
YanariiFV Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 90	As soon as the combat and skill changes hit Test, those of us beta-testing are allowed to speak about them as well, and there are quite a few of us in beta, so you're bound to be informed :smileywink: Message Edited by YanariiFV on 08-04-2005 09:56 PM __________________ Yaniro Petwrangler - Conjur(o/e)r - Antonia Bayle

08-05-2005, 02:51 AM	#3
Wil Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	appreciate the info... was getting worried how much I am gonna have to relearn how to play my class or if things work the same just better or worse. __________________ Wilyn Runecarver - Level 60 Conjuror Unity - SplitPaw

08-05-2005, 07:35 AM	#4
soulrais Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 120	http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=comtest&message.id=2 they are now there or lest some of them ) so spill the beans .... __________________ 70th Necro of Kithicor server

08-05-2005, 09:34 AM	#5
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	Full Conjuror Spell List, post combat changes. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

08-05-2005, 11:00 AM	#6
Vashn Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 27	Why do I feel a nerf coming on?... I finally find a class I like in eq2 and it's about to get nerfed bad I bet.. Well ok so i'll withhold final but just saying... I have been violated by the nerf bat before and it's not fun...

08-05-2005, 06:08 PM	#7
Wil Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	posted that link and info to feedback board hope you don't mind just wanted to get it where more of us could see it... and thanks for putting that together __________________ Wilyn Runecarver - Level 60 Conjuror Unity - SplitPaw

08-05-2005, 08:48 PM	#8
Cronocool Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 41	UHOH We use up more Concentration slots than before I hope its worth it.

08-05-2005, 08:54 PM	#9
Cronocool Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 41	OMG I just read threw the list were screwed we can only cast like 2 buffs at a time what were you thinking soe klook at all the Concentration bars!!!!!!!!!

08-05-2005, 08:55 PM	#10
Cronocool Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 41	Ok Fine maybe its not that bad but the spells better do tons more than they did before considering some acculy take up 3 concetration bars WOW.:smileywink:

08-06-2005, 02:04 AM	#11
TheKraken Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 76	I had put my enchanter on hold thinking I might pick him back up after the big combat patch, and have instead concentrated on my conjuror since he's well-balanced for both solo and group play. Why do I feel this will soon be reversed? I already feel my conjuror heading toward a storage space. Why such massive changes for conjuror? Of all the professions I've tried so far (9 and counting), conjuror by far has seemed the most complete. Has there really been anyone asking for stuff like this? Altogether I'm getting flashbacks of the Star Wars Galaxies "Combat Upgrade Patch" which changed too much, gave us things we didn't want, and ultimately drove people from the game. __________________ Draken - Wizard of Oasis

08-06-2005, 04:49 AM	#12
Eyes_of_Truth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 297	Oh hush honestly! Conjuror is WAYYYYY better on test, dont believe me then make one lol i witnessed our level 20 app4 fire pet with app4 offensive buff doing 120, 80, and 60 nuke sin RAPID succession, at one point it didnt charge mobs it would sit there and chain cast ^^ Concentration is perfect on most spells. Forcess you to make stratigic disisions. Cast pet damage boost, lowering it's defense, and put up magi shielding and tank while pet DPSes? Put on the ALL resist buff on group? Put DS on tank? Earth pet with defensive + taunt pet buff? So many options now, it's just that you cant have ALL going at same time. And you can change in middle of fight, like drop a few buffs and cast magi shielding if it looks rough (AOE melees and such) Would say more but i have to go now, Toodles! PS: as a parting note, Seisism = AWSOME now, at 20 my friend's does 80-190 perosnal body AOE + knock down (like 1 or 2 sec stun i think) and chance to blind mobs, witha recast of 20 seconds! AND IT LOOKS AWSOME = ) Dont be afraid of changes i ahve had almsot no complaints except for invis costing con and little things like that.

08-06-2005, 05:48 AM	#13
Eynki Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 90	Eyes_of_Truth wrote: Oh hush honestly! Conjuror is WAYYYYY better on test, dont believe me then make one lol i witnessed our level 20 app4 fire pet with app4 offensive buff doing 120, 80, and 60 nuke sin RAPID succession, at one point it didnt charge mobs it would sit there and chain cast ^^ Concentration is perfect on most spells. Forcess you to make stratigic disisions. Cast pet damage boost, lowering it's defense, and put up magi shielding and tank while pet DPSes? Put on the ALL resist buff on group? Put DS on tank? Earth pet with defensive + taunt pet buff? So many options now, it's just that you cant have ALL going at same time. And you can change in middle of fight, like drop a few buffs and cast magi shielding if it looks rough (AOE melees and such) Would say more but i have to go now, Toodles! PS: as a parting note, Seisism = AWSOME now, at 20 my friend's does 80-190 perosnal body AOE + knock down (like 1 or 2 sec stun i think) and chance to blind mobs, witha recast of 20 seconds! AND IT LOOKS AWSOME = ) Dont be afraid of changes i ahve had almsot no complaints except for invis costing con and little things like that. I am not flaming you. The stuff you just talked about is nothing new. the level 20 fire pet always did that much damage. the seism you described is only 10 damage more than it used to be. and the nurf on what few buffs we had is just rediculas. From the post moorgard made on the on the combat changes it sounded like we were getting a significant increase in some DPS. which is good however they balanced that with the nurf bat on the only 3 group buffs we had. ohh well well see sson enough i guess __________________ Raevix - 70 Assassin Bael - 70 Troublador Eynki - 56 Conjuror "Dark Horizon" Bazzar server

08-06-2005, 06:15 AM	#14
Eyes_of_Truth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 297	nooooo firepet didnt usto do that much...app4 doing well over what adept1 doe son live, and casting avour 3 times faster too. And our buffs are good dont knock them, we just have to choose what to use and when, and i like that. If single target buffs that are procs arnt as strong as they should be, then up their power or remove the con, it's not realy a drastic problem. All and all im greatly enjoying the class, and sesism im prity sure didnt do as much damage as it does now, since it can be used every 20 seconds insted of a DOT stretching that same damage out longer (granted it doesnt have the reist debuff, but we dont do magic damage mainly anyway, we are crushing damage nukers and heat based later on with our dots, and a few cold based) Whine if you want, im love'n it! Toodles!

08-06-2005, 09:25 AM	#15
trigger3 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 50	From what I just read Siesm got a massive damage upgrade. At lv 42 with app4 siesm it does like 30ish IIRC. Firepet didnt do anything like what was described in test either, I seriously dunno what you're talking about. Back to the Siesm subject, appartently it's on the same timer is Tremor, which I'm sure means that Tremor got a massive damage upgrade aswell. I'm looking forward to the new combat changes =) __________________ Joope - 43 Conjuror Many other 25-35 alts. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lv 51 Mage (Joopi) on Nathrezim server - World Of Warcraft

08-06-2005, 12:46 PM	#16
K'aldar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 378	i'm not on test but my 43 conj's Igneous Adept at adept I barely does more dmg than he describes the lvl 20 pet at appr IV did on test.. and mine sure as hell doesn't cast fast. __________________

08-07-2005, 07:59 AM	#17
JesterofJusti General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3	trigger333 wrote: From what I just read Siesm got a massive damage upgrade. At lv 42 with app4 siesm it does like 30ish IIRC. ... Back to the Siesm subject, appartently it's on the same timer is Tremor, which I'm sure means that Tremor got a massive damage upgrade aswell. From what I understand, Seism is no longer a DoT. So instead of 6 (I think) ticks of 30ish encounter based over 24(?) seconds, you get 190ish (depending on mob con and int and whatnot) point blank with a 20 second recast. Instead of a debuff you get a short stun/interrupt. And if it's on the same timer as Tremor, it will no longer stack with Tremor. Hard for me to say what the overall effect will be without testing it. Overall, I like some of what I've read, dislike some. Still have a ton of questions. From all the doomsaying on the boards for all classes, I wish SOE had kept this info locked up until it was finished.

08-07-2005, 08:07 PM	#18
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	JesterofJustice wrote: Overall, I like some of what I've read, dislike some. Still have a ton of questions. From all the doomsaying on the boards for all classes, I wish SOE had kept this info locked up until it was finished. Ask away, I'm as familiar as any other 50 Conjuror that's tested the changes (and still testing, I might add) __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

08-08-2005, 11:08 AM	#19
Thmy Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 258	take a look on test and see if our level 50.0 spells still use a t-5 ruby and if the 50.6 do also I want to know if it is better to make our 50 spell adept-3 NOW or if we can wait. --------------- the current 50 ones -------------------- 50 - Flash Flood - Cold Encounter-based AoE CHANGE 50 - Flameshield - Single-target heat damage shield CHANGE 50 - Blazing Presence - Grants massive proc to pet for a short time. -------------- lifted from a Xalmat post ------------------

08-08-2005, 05:51 PM	#20
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	Thmy wrote: take a look on test and see if our level 50.0 spells still use a t-5 ruby and if the 50.6 do also I want to know if it is better to make our 50 spell adept-3 NOW or if we can wait. --------------- the current 50 ones -------------------- 50 - Flash Flood - Cold Encounter-based AoE CHANGE 50 - Flameshield - Single-target heat damage shield CHANGE 50 - Blazing Presence - Grants massive proc to pet for a short time. -------------- lifted from a Xalmat post ------------------ I can't answer about 50.6 because it is bound by the NDA. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

08-09-2005, 07:48 AM	#21
killer2019 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6	thx guys, do you guys think i will make it out of test severs??

08-09-2005, 08:07 AM	#22
killer2019 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6	im new at this anywho i was trying to say was: do you think the conj stuff will make it off the test sever? and if so how so you think this will help all conjs in PvP becouse alot of people are saying the conj's are going to be bad at PvP but with this thing on the test sever im thinking we are going to be good at PvP.

08-09-2005, 08:22 AM	#23
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	The combat changes are heading to the Live servers on September 12th. Because they are still a work on progress, they are only on the Beta and Test servers until then. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

08-09-2005, 06:13 PM	#24
killer2019 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6	cool thx

08-09-2005, 07:51 PM	#25
Tuthmosis I General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Have a question for you Xalmut i recently acquired a master 1 magi pet on a raid and i read on the necroboard that fire pets will stay back and cast instead of trying to act like fighters any truth to that since you seems to know a great deal about the changes because that is one of the main problems with caster pets and there terriable hp Mobius level 50 Conjuror on Intouthule hopefully about the combat changes

08-09-2005, 07:57 PM	#26
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	What's your question? __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

08-09-2005, 08:00 PM	#27
killer2019 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6	i have that same spell in master is very good. the master is 1/4 of the app and it gives you 4 pets and the app gives you 2

08-09-2005, 08:26 PM	#28
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	Fire pets still rush to attack their target. However, they do some incredible damage now (mobs die before they can kill the pet off), and as long as you're able to heal it won't be a problem. I'll have a post outlining the damage changes to the pets very shortly. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

08-09-2005, 09:58 PM	#29
Azex General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	Wow thank you Xalmat im very excited to see what you have to say:smileyhappy: Alexia Butcherblock Unitas LvL 50 conj.

08-10-2005, 02:54 AM	#30
Runelaron Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 194	What I realy wan't to know now is how the whole Defence and Offece spells work.. is realy interesting.... anyone got some info on them? __________________ "The Storm came and I had no where to hide" - Genghis Khan Rune Nagafen