How about charm being usable in duels?

ootpek · 11-25-2005, 07:04 PM

That would be a nice hopefully easy change to make coercers a little happier. Even if it doesn't count for anything and I'd only really use it to surprise the crap out of my regular Assassin dueling opponent it would be a nice fix. SMILEY

Krelfeari · 11-27-2005, 05:15 AM

can't happen. I'll explain why.

Its the same thing that causes me to not be able to charm a level 31 mob at level 31 coercer and then mentor down to my brothers 20 necro and get great exp by owning the zone with a 31 pet. To prevent this, soe made charm count as an engaged encounter.

Thus, you can't mentor with a charmed pet, you can't duel with a charmed pet, and many of your groups will complain about the buggy encounter open'ness of ur charmed pet.

for them to fix this they would have to somehow leave in the mentor part while taking our the part for dueling and I don't see them taking the time to fix this for a very long time as very few are gonna complain about it cause most servers have more paladins than there are coercers on every server total.

But yeah, it would be great, you could spend like 10 minutes to charm an orange and win every duel hands down even tho we already win ALMOST every duel due to mez+stun chaining and power drains on those casters.

Heck even if we only used a yellow mob, if it was a caster we could just start the fight with mez, stun, send in pet, dot, dot, stun, nuke nuke, silence, sybillant if melee maybe tyrannical mind for caster and either way their mostly dead already even if their very good at staying alive.

Infact, dueling is one place we do amazingly well, I was dueling people at EL docks the other day and only ran into 3 people that were any challenge really 1 was a ranger, sybillant doesnt work on their long range and those bows freakin hurt. The other 2 were hardly worth mentioning as one was 6 levels over me, a 37 fury...nuked me for 1k....and a 32 SK that harm touched me at very beginning of the fight. That move as well as our mez all need reductions for PVP....but especially that move cuase its instant death for a mage as far as I can tell.

anyway, back on subject, I don't see this happening soon dude, sorry, I hope it happens with 18, but I doubt it.

Bloodtoo · 11-27-2005, 11:48 AM

I just wish it worked in the arena that would be hoot. Last time I tried it, it pretty much just worked like a mez.

Morthore · 11-28-2005, 10:17 PM

you can charm in a duel, but............you must charm the mob AFTER you begin the duel

and in your reply vs a SK....i died instantly vs a sk with his RANGED harm touch, dunno how SOE put the word TOUCH in there since obviously they don't have to touch you....maybe they should just name it DEATH.

I also tried to charm a Conjuror's pet, didn't work

Krelfeari · 11-29-2005, 05:55 PM

I never thought of that but it makes sense....u can engage mobs while dueling....so charming them should be possible as well....I will have to give this a couple tried and pit my enemies against random mobs now that I have master1 beguile....bwahahahahaa.

11-27-2005, 05:15 AM	#2
Krelfeari Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 413	can't happen. I'll explain why. Its the same thing that causes me to not be able to charm a level 31 mob at level 31 coercer and then mentor down to my brothers 20 necro and get great exp by owning the zone with a 31 pet. To prevent this, soe made charm count as an engaged encounter. Thus, you can't mentor with a charmed pet, you can't duel with a charmed pet, and many of your groups will complain about the buggy encounter open'ness of ur charmed pet. for them to fix this they would have to somehow leave in the mentor part while taking our the part for dueling and I don't see them taking the time to fix this for a very long time as very few are gonna complain about it cause most servers have more paladins than there are coercers on every server total. But yeah, it would be great, you could spend like 10 minutes to charm an orange and win every duel hands down even tho we already win ALMOST every duel due to mez+stun chaining and power drains on those casters. Heck even if we only used a yellow mob, if it was a caster we could just start the fight with mez, stun, send in pet, dot, dot, stun, nuke nuke, silence, sybillant if melee maybe tyrannical mind for caster and either way their mostly dead already even if their very good at staying alive. Infact, dueling is one place we do amazingly well, I was dueling people at EL docks the other day and only ran into 3 people that were any challenge really 1 was a ranger, sybillant doesnt work on their long range and those bows freakin hurt. The other 2 were hardly worth mentioning as one was 6 levels over me, a 37 fury...nuked me for 1k....and a 32 SK that harm touched me at very beginning of the fight. That move as well as our mez all need reductions for PVP....but especially that move cuase its instant death for a mage as far as I can tell. anyway, back on subject, I don't see this happening soon dude, sorry, I hope it happens with 18, but I doubt it. __________________ Psykoala Hypnoplatypus, first Ratongan Coercer to be diagnosed with "Animal Skitzophrenia" where each personality is a different creature. Sig Update: November 16, 2005 Lvl 31 Quests 230+ Current personality: Owlbear

11-27-2005, 11:48 AM	#3
Bloodtoo Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 198	I just wish it worked in the arena that would be hoot. Last time I tried it, it pretty much just worked like a mez. __________________ Freeport is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side. -- Hunter S. Thompson (slight interpretation)

11-29-2005, 05:55 PM	#5
Krelfeari Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 413	I never thought of that but it makes sense....u can engage mobs while dueling....so charming them should be possible as well....I will have to give this a couple tried and pit my enemies against random mobs now that I have master1 beguile....bwahahahahaa. __________________ Psykoala Hypnoplatypus, first Ratongan Coercer to be diagnosed with "Animal Skitzophrenia" where each personality is a different creature. Sig Update: November 16, 2005 Lvl 31 Quests 230+ Current personality: Owlbear

11-25-2005, 07:04 PM	#1
ootpek Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 144	That would be a nice hopefully easy change to make coercers a little happier. Even if it doesn't count for anything and I'd only really use it to surprise the crap out of my regular Assassin dueling opponent it would be a nice fix.

11-28-2005, 10:17 PM	#4
Morthore Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 37	you can charm in a duel, but............you must charm the mob AFTER you begin the duel and in your reply vs a SK....i died instantly vs a sk with his RANGED harm touch, dunno how SOE put the word TOUCH in there since obviously they don't have to touch you....maybe they should just name it DEATH. I also tried to charm a Conjuror's pet, didn't work