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[Keitho]

BTW deleting most post  ...not starting flames

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[Nevao]

/golf clap Nice one Soul. =) 

[Keitho]

Message Edited by Keithoth on 01-25-2007 06:01 PM

[Araxes]

So basically your wizard and assassin suck ?  Is that what you are trying to say here? 

Message Edited by Vicontessa on 01-24-2007 12:13 AM

[KrAzE1]

Vicontessa, you forgot the swashy. :smileyvery-happy:

[Ruut Li]

/applaud at pwning among slackerrrrrz :smileyvery-happy:

[Windowlicker]

Warlock DPS dosen't suck, we just need to put a little more work towards kicking it out then most classes.

 

[Vulking]

If your parse is accurate, your right, your dps doesn't suck.  The rest of your raid's does.

[Keitho]

Message Edited by Keithoth on 01-25-2007 06:04 PM

[Ruut Li]

sry, according to the proof you posted they arent good. Cant post proof and then say its not correct. Eiher the parse shows what happens on average at ur raid or its a rare situation which wouldnt make it impressive.

[Korpo]

Raise your hand if you're in this thread and have ever beaten Mayong.(/raisehand)If you don't have your hand up, you don't know what the fight is like, and you aren't qualified to talk about the absolute numbers. Soul here is trying to illustrate that warlocks do just fine relative to other classes, which is quite true.

[CalypsoCGN]

Do your summoner have their AA-pets (hydro / debuff-thingie) up or why are they soooo low... :smileysurprised:

[KrAzE1]

No its not true.. think what you will but 2 fights against those two mobs DO NOT illustrate jack!. Warlocks can be awsome and top of the parse on certain fights this we all know. Thats like comparing a Swashys dps on the Tactician and saying that this class is the best dps...  OVERALL raid merge for the whole zone tells you if there is class balance taking into concideration all the other raid zones available and how the classes do on these.

[Korpo]

No, the summoners didn't have their AA pets up. Mayong has several AEs that need to be dodged, I assume summoners keep their pets out during them.

[KrAzE1]

And on a different note since most of us discussing this are warlocks and this "is" a warlock forum we are very well qualified to discuss our class just as a Coercer would do in his class forum.

[Korpo]

Some people have spent enough time in the game to know about other classes in addition to their own, and offer advice to those that need it. Obviously quite a few in this thread haven't even learned about one class, let alone others, else they wouldn't be complaining about warlock dps.Also of note is that my level 70, fully mastered, nearly fully fabled warlock has been around a good 5 months longer than your warlock. Good game though.

[KrAzE1]

Gratz pat yourself on the back because I am also fully mastered and fully fabled and opinions are like [I cannot control my vocabulary]s and mine stands like it or not. Never had I ever stated that warlock dps sucks but on a regular basis when a teir 2 dps leads raid zone after raid zone raid wide parses it is NOT balanced!

Message Edited by KrAzE1 on 01-24-2007 10:51 PM

[KrAzE1]

And if you would like to debate further even Soul in the stickied topic above (the final post) He saw the same thing in Freethinkers that I'm seeing in almost 90% of the raid zones note who topped.

[Korpo]

That's a nice Crimson Draco Hat, Draco Bindings, T6 wand, Offhand orb thing, Gizzardstone bracelet, Hardened Gizzardstone, and Soul Husk you have on, but none of them are fabled.In case you were confused by those spells on your bar, the Adept 3s don't count as masters.

[KrAzE1]

I'm sorry Mr Winkle I guess I should have swap'd gear around for you so It shows all fabled if I knew you needed a look up my skirt. Even tho some of the fabled I have has less int and the cap has been up'd. But just for you... hat for example, I have relic but I dont hardly use it why int is lower. Forearms relic hardly use them why? int lower than my legendary and items get swap'd around due to what mobs are being fought and what resists I need more of. Masters I am fully mastered in T7 and only missing one master in T6 (Dark Infestation). When people say fully master'd they are refering to the highest Tier.  But you know this so this really doesnt matter because you have a warlock that is 5 months older than mine. But what you did fail to mention conviently is that your actual play time in days is only 90 compared to my baby warlocks almost doubled play time of 173 days 17 hours. And by the way why go lock your profile? lol Funny it was there for all to view and now its access denied.

[KrAzE1]

There you go mr winkle did some swapping out for you. Isnt that great fabled 2 hander I have beautimus! LOL Its shame Im a raider who raids every nite and doesnt work for my AA line bwth  just for you cause I like you so much! Oh crap! but which fabled should I wear for you mr winkle? Dam I have 3 fabled belts decisions decisions  maybe this one server disco?

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/Krazecj/lewt3.jpg

or this one? Man what was I thinking I cant believe I dont wear this all the time

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/Krazecj/lewt2.jpg

or maybe holy cow hes not wearing these in his profile...

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/Krazecj/lewt.jpg

Ok Im done measuring epeens with you mr winkles back to the topic at hand.....  Warlock DPS doesnt suck but we are "NOT" where we are supposed to be when Tier 2 classes consistantly beat us and other tier one classes. Second point our signature AA is not on par with what other dps classes recieved true? or untrue?

And since you didnt bother to read or comment on Soul's previous post I brought to your attention "I will post some soon ..BTW  Freethinkers  other night  3rd top dps   swashy  then  wizard then me  wizard like 40 dps more ....Lyceum tonight  Swashy  Warlock  and me Warlock  .. Raids dps was 30k  for lyceum lol ...Ill see if my dps thing works tonight  i hate  the program  (BTW  parse starts  as anyone in raids starts ..and i dont  do the dps  our assassins andother classes do)"

[CalypsoCGN]

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korpo53 wrote:No, the summoners didn't have their AA pets up. Mayong has several AEs that need to be dodged, I assume summoners keep their pets out during them.

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Well...good thing SoE changes the pet behaviour in the next LU...

[Ruut Li]

 So this named fight is special I guess, and warlock does well on it..so? However, I still dont understand why for example the wizards dps is so low. Is it a favourable aoe figth for warlocks? and again...so? Im just questioning the competition, "buddy", but it seems like teh kings of teh lock community dont like that huh? lol.

Furthermore you, wrinkley, use the lamest defense ever: if ppl dont agree they dont know anything, they are noobs.  And you definatley do not want to hear this: the wizard/s (for example) I raid with do A LOT MORE dps than that, CONSTANTLY. That makes me a noob? Nah I just have the virtual [Removed for Content] to raid in a highly competitive environment. Raise your hand if you do too. If you arent then hush, cuz im obligated to question these slacker parsers. mmhm :smileyhappy:

 

In conclusion: stuff your slacker parses up your royal hybris-infested butt pliiiiiiiz. :smileyvery-happy:

[Pins]

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Ruut Li wrote:

 So this named fight is special I guess, and warlock does well on it..so? However, I still dont understand why for example the wizards dps is so low. Is it a favourable aoe figth for warlocks? and again...so? Im just questioning the competition, "buddy", but it seems like teh kings of teh lock community dont like that huh? lol.

Furthermore you, wrinkley, use the lamest defense ever: if ppl dont agree they dont know anything, they are noobs.  And you definatley do not want to hear this: the wizard/s (for example) I raid with do A LOT MORE dps than that, CONSTANTLY. That makes me a noob? Nah I just have the virtual [Removed for Content] to raid in a highly competitive environment. Raise your hand if you do too. If you arent then hush, cuz im obligated to question these slacker parsers. mmhm :smileyhappy:

 

In conclusion: stuff your slacker parses up your royal hybris-infested butt pliiiiiiiz. :smileyvery-happy:

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In conclusion you are dumb. It's not even an AoE fight. He's just posting proving that warlock DPS isn't horrible, it's the fact that most people suck at playing warlocks.

[Araxes]

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korpo53 wrote:Raise your hand if you're in this thread and have ever beaten Mayong.

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I have no hands.  I was amputated at the elbows.  Can I raise my foot instead?  What about my mechanical arms?  Do they count?

[Keitho]

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KrAzE1 wrote:

And since you didnt bother to read or comment on Soul's previous post I brought to your attention "I will post some soon ..BTW  Freethinkers  other night  3rd top dps   swashy  then  wizard then me  wizard like 40 dps more ....Lyceum tonight  Swashy  Warlock  and me Warlock  .. Raids dps was 30k  for lyceum lol ...Ill see if my dps thing works tonight  i hate  the program  (BTW  parse starts  as anyone in raids starts ..and i dont  do the dps  our assassins andother classes do)"

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if you even take a look at the date of that post ..im sure i didnt even have 75 aa's yet lol ...  well 100aa  now ...   a good warlock can out parse great t2..we are awesome dps now ...maybe youre slacking  btw ..those fabled werent really impressive /shrug

[KrAzE1]

Someone who has no knowledge of something is not dumb.

[KrAzE1]

Maybe I am slacking Soul because I only have 87 AA's maybe it will get better at 100. And your jab about my fabled is fine who cares its irrevelant and were not posted to impress you or anyone but to dispute a troll. I just find it hard to believe 13 AA points is going to close the gap but I guess I'l find out soon enough.

[Ruut Li]

Im not seeing any out of the ordinary warlock parsers here. What you uptight know-it-alls are missing is this: ur competition sucks. its not about beating classes anymore when they aint doing their best. Already told you I do 1400-1800 on st trash and a bit less on long st named. I am not number uno on the parse like you with the same dps. The only noobs here are ur competitiors.

 

and [Removed for Content] is an illu from disso telling me Im dumb? First you are not a warlock duh. Second, if im not completely wrong, arent you in a high end raiding guild? shouldnt you know that certain classes in that parse are performing poorly, that they can do more than that? If you dont know then ur a NOOB and DUMB:smileyvery-happy: you felt the need to come here and defend soul? hold his hand? aaww cute.

Message Edited by Ruut Li on 01-25-2007 11:14 AM

[Goozman]

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Pinski wrote:

 

In conclusion you are dumb. It's not even an AoE fight. He's just posting proving that warlock DPS isn't horrible, it's the fact that most people suck at playing warlocks.

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I second that. In my entire time playing this game, I've grouped with only 2 good warlocks; and they typically dwarfed other people's dps.

But then, I think that goes for every class roflz.

Message Edited by Goozman on 01-25-2007 11:49 AM