Can we get a parse post going showing our DPS vs the other dps classes?

Primalooze · 12-09-2006, 09:54 PM

We have 2 raid capable warlocks in guild. Its very difficult to parse this high, and the warlocks are nearly always the first naked players.We generally put the 2 warlocks in the same group under a troub's dehate buff, but often use a paly's ammends on the warlocks. Its a shame that the warlock buffs get wasted in this way, but we only have 1 troub on most raids and its suicide to split us up..... the wizard is normally grouped in with us too.Necro very very rarely takes agro, and isn't normally in a group with dehate. Assassin normally parses much highter against the bosses, but less on the adds.Wizards are the same as assasinThese are from 2 recent raids, this is the average for whole raid.LABS(Necromancer) DPS:747,01, H:179283(Warlock) DPS:697,13, H:3424(Swashie) DPS:571,19, H:0(Wizard) DPS:565,36, H:1189(Guardian (MT) ) DPS:524,60, H:39972(Brigand) DPS:516,51, H:134(Assasin) DPS:485,36, H:4001(Swashie) DPS:481,58, H:697(Ranger) DPS:422,75, H:2127(Troub) DPS:401,12, H:986Deathtoll(Necromancer) D:781,13,H:140245(Warlock) D:725,47,H:7790(Wizard) D:616,17,H:7686(Ranger) D:578,66,H:0(Assasin) D:545,28,H:815(Guardian (MT) ) D:504,64,H:16722(Bruiser) D:495,49,H:17390(Swashie) D:452,71,H:4398

Ravenhoft · 12-10-2006, 09:24 AM

Edit: Wanted to add that this is EXT-DPS with the entire raid merged unless I messed something up.

Allies: (31:5 SMILEY

18562339 | 9677.97 [Illu-Manaburn-86190]Illu 2344420 | 1222.33Conjurer 1480835 | 772.07Ranger 1459475 | 760.94Ranger 1458586 | 760.47Warlock 1325855 | 691.27Assassin(i think) 1292049 | 673.64Wizard #2 1269748 | 662.02Wizard #3 1197873 | 624.54Conjurer 1099190 | 573.09ME - Voltair 964052 | 502.63SK (Main Tank) 764454 | 398.57SK 711317 | 370.86Berserker (Secondary / Add Tank) 663867 | 346.12-I forget A tank 613697 | 319.97Berserker 557698 | 290.77OK, there are my sad numbers...I am going to change up my casting order and play with it a bit, but I also didn't die as much as the rest. My group had 3 rangers, and first sign of trouble they tended to evac (not sure what that was about). I also debuffed until it stuck, which I do have one of those at master and one at adept 3. Occasionally pillaged for mana too, though I was usually the one needing it. I will hopefully see an improvement as I gear out somemore and get my masters back from the betrayl fiasco of a week or two ago.Ilu, nice to see you in action. You surely know how to play your class, and push it to the extreme no doubt. That 80k manaburn was something else...more than I got on any individual fight all night, kudos. It was nice seeing Obe in action too, I think he is one of the better warlocks I have raided with (which, I honestly don't see a lot around, but he is good).Keep the posts coming guys.-Voltair(I missed tonights raids, if Illu wants to post them here, feel free).

Message Edited by Ravenhoft on 12-09-2006 08:26 PM

Ugho · 12-10-2006, 08:13 PM

This was from freethinkers raid the other night. Bunch of trash and first named. I have parsed over 1K many times in the past as well.

Raid-wide Parse:
NECRO        3502332 | 1083.31
RANGER      3092661 | 956.59
Ugho             3046614 | 942.35 <-- Warlock
RANGER      2804118 | 867.34
CONJUROR 2533559 | 783.66
NECRO        2376699 | 735.14
NECRO        2197666 | 679.76
WIZARD       2174355 | 672.55

...

Witterqui · 12-11-2006, 12:55 AM

Complete HOS data , and then in my opinion 2 of the best mobs to judge DPS potential on , Pain and suffering . NO aoes no Real tank dmg , classes can focus on Raw DMG. EXTDPS

Allies: (01:27:0 SMILEY 61147266 | 11696.11 [Zerker-Vortex of Desecration-246248]

Wizard 6513088 | 1505.57

[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 4994315 | 1193.39

Ranger 4119946 | 1075.70

Warlock 3819556 | 1046.17

Wiz 4489782 | 1030.48

Zerker 4941401 | 1003.33

Conj 4145762 | 951.30

Brig 2120112 | 899.50

Pain

Allies: (02:22) 2515005 | 17711.30 [Wizard-Fusion-18293]

Wizard 257542 | 1813.68

Conj 204326 | 1438.92

[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 199550 | 1405.28

Conj 190779 | 1343.51

Warlock 186172 | 1311.07

Ranger 183034 | 1288.97

Wizard 165320 | 1164.23

Swashy 161300 | 1135.92

Zerker 150522 | 1060.01

Suffering

Allies: (02:20) 2532354 | 18088.24 [[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]-Decapitate-23070]

Wizard 248529 | 1775.21

[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 216169 | 1544.06

Warlock 212788 | 1519.91

Conj 202398 | 1445.70

Wizard 178300 | 1273.57

Ranger 173367 | 1238.34

Conj 170530 | 1218.07

Zerker 156433 | 1117.38

IllusiveThoughts · 12-11-2006, 01:24 AM

Ravenhoft wrote:
Edit: Wanted to add that this is EXT-DPS with the entire raid merged unless I messed something up.

Allies: (31:5 18562339 | 9677.97 [Illu-Manaburn-86190]
Illu 2344420 | 1222.33
Conjurer 1480835 | 772.07
Ranger 1459475 | 760.94
Ranger 1458586 | 760.47
Warlock 1325855 | 691.27
Assassin(i think) 1292049 | 673.64
Wizard #2 1269748 | 662.02
Wizard #3 1197873 | 624.54
Conjurer 1099190 | 573.09
ME - Voltair 964052 | 502.63
SK (Main Tank) 764454 | 398.57
SK 711317 | 370.86
Berserker (Secondary / Add Tank) 663867 | 346.12
-I forget A tank 613697 | 319.97
Berserker 557698 | 290.77

OK, there are my sad numbers...I am going to change up my casting order and play with it a bit, but I also didn't die as much as the rest. My group had 3 rangers, and first sign of trouble they tended to evac (not sure what that was about). I also debuffed until it stuck, which I do have one of those at master and one at adept 3. Occasionally pillaged for mana too, though I was usually the one needing it. I will hopefully see an improvement as I gear out somemore and get my masters back from the betrayl fiasco of a week or two ago.

Ilu, nice to see you in action. You surely know how to play your class, and push it to the extreme no doubt. That 80k manaburn was something else...more than I got on any individual fight all night, kudos. It was nice seeing Obe in action too, I think he is one of the better warlocks I have raided with (which, I honestly don't see a lot around, but he is good).

Keep the posts coming guys.
-Voltair
(I missed tonights raids, if Illu wants to post them here, feel free).

Message Edited by Ravenhoft on 12-09-2006 08:26 PM

since you guys are posting in ext dps and i usually post in DPS i'll repost the labs zone parse in ext dps here for you

THis is labs ZONE parse.

KrAzE1 · 12-12-2006, 05:17 PM

MMIS last nite

   Name               Start Time Duration Damage Healed DPS Ext   DPS     Hits Swings Dmg Taken
Swashbuckler    8:42:35 PM 01:12:57 5818027       378 1329.23 1161.28 9820 10842 356494
Necro                 8:42:35 PM 01:10:16 5634426 152628 1336.44 1124.64 11776 12311 412775
Kraze                 8:42:34 PM 01:06:33 4914780   17078 1230.85   980.99   5403   5524 378652
Bruiser               8:42:36 PM 01:08:43 4402643   17769 1067.83   878.77   6803   7817 498774
Brigand              8:42:36 PM 01:12:03 4151616           0   960.36   828.67   6051   6962 431911
Ranger              8:42:43 PM      54:09 4120216           0  1268.15   822.40   4773   5091 167431
Necro                8:42:45 PM 01:10:22 4087111 204580    968.05   815.79 10797 11651 378517

Our wizard wasnt on last nite and the 2nd Necro in the parse rarely uses lifeburn.

Inebriation · 12-13-2006, 06:12 PM

KrAzE1 wrote:

Monday, December 04, 2006 - 8:12:15 PM to 8:45:27 PM
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Name             Start Time Duration Damage   Healed   DPS   Ext DPS Hits Swings Dmg Taken
Kraze (Me)       8:12:17 PM 40:16   3186924   8398 1319.09 1237.16 3050 3174   429176
Swashbuckler     8:12:15 PM 40:40   3133468      0 1284.21 1216.41 4748 5014    92720
Wizard           8:12:15 PM 39:18   2762066   3650 1171.36 1072.23 2244 2330    38146
Clockwork Menace 8:18:10 PM 18:20   2171746 129622 1974.32 843.07 800 1012 6516340
Necro            8:12:17 PM 40:06   1890948 106934   785.93 734.06 4812 5058   177112
Ranger           8:12:17 PM 39:38   1759554 10202   739.93 683.06 1786 1944    41656
Mad Tzikla       8:14:16 PM 07:26   1738476      0 3897.93 674.87 1918 1974 5595114
Brigand          8:12:15 PM 39:48   1548150      0   648.30 600.99 2440 2732

Heres one of the very few raidwide parses I parsed the highest.
Its very rare we parse at the top and depends on the raid makeup
and the raid zone your in. My job on this raid was to kill the adds
that keep spawning. I was put with a pally and had a dedicated healer
and the adds that keep spawning are Heroics so the died quickly.

I think I will print this and frame it because it doesnt happen very often!

PS: Il post some raid merge parses that reflect the normal Warlock dps

when I get home from work.

Well encounters such as Clockwork Menace which is very similiar to Chel'Drak allow us to parse decently because of the frequent add spawns that allow us to throw in anything such as Chaostorm or Rift and still allows us to do direct damage on the main encounter mob. PB aoes ftw.

Eldarath · 12-13-2006, 09:28 PM

Is it just me or do these parses seem a little low to anyone else?

IllusiveThoughts · 12-14-2006, 01:38 AM

Eldarath wrote:
Is it just me or do these parses seem a little low to anyone else?

maybe, but thats the highest i've seen our warlock parse in labs for the last 6 months.

initially on the wizard parse thread he was in the 700s, and has grown over time to the 1100's (almost 1200's) for zonewide dps. thats a good improvement imho.

Dabbie · 12-14-2006, 01:53 AM

Zonewide parses are going to be a little lower than the parse you're used to seeing after each fight, but I agree, these numbers seem on the low side. It's not asking too much of a warlock to parse 1200 on a single target fight. Cast 70 Warlock Saints of Norrath Blackburrow

Mastire · 12-14-2006, 02:01 AM

Dabbie wrote:
Zonewide parses are going to be a little lower than the parse you're used to seeing after each fight, but I agree, these numbers seem on the low side. It's not asking too much of a warlock to parse 1200 on a single target fight.

Cast
70 Warlock
Saints of Norrath
Blackburrow

Agree, with the the right group I am able to do upwords of 1.5-1.6k reguraly on single target mobs. Fully Adorned and with 100AA's I would think it would be possible to break 2k on occasion.

IllusiveThoughts · 12-14-2006, 02:13 AM

Mastire wrote:

Dabbie wrote:
Zonewide parses are going to be a little lower than the parse you're used to seeing after each fight, but I agree, these numbers seem on the low side. It's not asking too much of a warlock to parse 1200 on a single target fight.

Cast
70 Warlock
Saints of Norrath
Blackburrow

Agree, with the the right group I am able to do upwords of 1.5-1.6k reguraly on single target mobs. Fully Adorned and with 100AA's I would think it would be possible to break 2k on occasion.

please share these parses guys. not trying to attack you in anyway, or making it seem like you have to defend your point. but this thread is for posting actual parses, not posting what you can do. so lets see em!

Mastire · 12-14-2006, 05:08 AM

Emerald Halls: Only 1 named up in zone so no parce for that since it pwned us

An emerald entrancer

A hidden keeper:

Ect. I wasn't doing this every fight alot I was doing 1-1.3k dps but it wasn't out of the norm for me to do that, I when I had ro's flame on

Merged:

Only thing about zone parce I removed the 20 attempts from the named mob who pwned us
Parce is normal, Ranger>Brig>Me is the normal

Freethinkers Hideout:

No brig so dps was lower then it should

A D'Morte Ransacker

A D'Morte Siphoner

Zylphax the Shredder

A D'Morte sorcerer

need I go on?

This was with 55-56 AA. With 1 Adornment 1st raid and no EoF gear, 2nd raid no EoF gear but 2 +14 int adornments. Those are the only raids I have done since I have come back.

Elria

Message Edited by Mastire on 12-13-2006 04:09 PM

KrAzE1 · 12-14-2006, 07:41 AM

edited

Message Edited by KrAzE1 on 12-13-2006 09:43 PM

IllusiveThoughts · 12-14-2006, 08:45 AM

Mastire wrote:

Emerald Halls: Only 1 named up in zone so no parce for that since it pwned us

An emerald entrancer

Allies: (00:41) 866852 | 21142.73 [-Void Distortion-7143]
Brig 89875 | 2192.07
Ranger 80506 | 1963.56
Swash 78489 | 1914.37
Conj 74252 | 1811.02
Warlock 67918 | 1656.54
Ranger 65181 | 1589.78
Warlock 59713 | 1456.42
Necro 54368 | 1326.05
Illus 45863 | 1118.61
Assasin 44636 | 1088.68

A hidden keeper:

Allies: (00:47) 847225 | 18026.06 [-Pestilent Touch-7630]
Ranger 77602 | 1651.11
Warlock 76958 | 1637.40
Assasin70737 | 1505.04
Swash 67740 | 1441.28
Brig 61712 | 1313.02
Conj 59909 | 1274.66
Zerker 56784 | 1208.17
Warlock 56508 | 1202.30
Ranger 54968 | 1169.53
SK 54541 | 1160.45
Ill 45951 | 977.68

Twilight prowler:
Allies: (00:42) 803225 | 19124.40 [-Thunderbolt-5931]
Warlock 66566 | 1584.91
Swash 63231 | 1505.50
Brig 62905 | 1497.74
Ranger 62130 | 1479.29
Assasin 58091 | 1383.12
Zerker 57307 | 1364.45
Ranger 50977 | 1213.74
Conj 47501 | 1130.98
Necro 45019 | 1071.88
Ill 43729 | 1041.17
SK 40302 | 959.57
SK 34669 | 825.45
Dirge 29092 | 692.67
Warlock 28655 | 682.26

a hidden tender

Allies: (00:42) 826308 | 19674.00 [-Rain of Arrows-6879]
Swash 76253 | 1815.55
Ranger 76159 | 1813.31
Warlock 67731 | 1612.64
Brig 60926 | 1450.62
Warlock 58443 | 1391.50
Ranger 58221 | 1386.21
Conj 50275 | 1197.02
Necro 49446 | 1177.29
Assasin 47851 | 1139.31
Ill 46910 | 1116.91
Zerker 46743 | 1112.93
SK 39714 | 945.57
SK 29459 | 701.40

Ect. I wasn't doing this every fight alot I was doing 1-1.3k dps but it wasn't out of the norm for me to do that, I when I had ro's flame on

Merged:

Allies: (48:35) 46685027 | 16015.45 [-Sniper Shot-14949]
Ranger 4376860 | 1501.50
Brig 3950477 | 1355.22
Warlock 3705243 | 1271.10
Swash 3575221 | 1226.49
Ranger 3237707 | 1110.71
Warlock 2985550 | 1024.20
Assasin 2800579 | 960.75
Conj 2639191 | 905.38
ill 2620003 | 898.80
Necro 2315990 | 794.51

Only thing about zone parce I removed the 20 attempts from the named mob who pwned us
Parce is normal, Ranger>Brig>Me is the normal

Freethinkers Hideout:

No brig so dps was lower then it should

A D'Morte Ransacker

Allies: (01:11) 777982 | 10957.49 [-Killing Blade-9301]
Warlock 106140 | 1494.93
Assasin 99669 | 1403.79
Wizzard 91794 | 1292.87
Warlock 73727 | 1038.41
SK 63298 | 891.52
Zerker 52121 | 734.10
Necro 51630 | 727.18
Guard 46657 | 657.14

A D'Morte Siphoner

Allies: (01:05) 789800 | 12150.77 [Ice Nova-11499]
Warlock 100740 | 1549.85
Wizzard 92944 | 1429.91
Assasin 83194 | 1279.91
Ranger 80996 | 1246.09
Warlock 66724 | 1026.52
Necro 59710 | 918.62
SK 44772 | 688.80
Guard 40434 | 622.06
Fury 36770 | 565.69

Were havign probs zoning people in atthis point so hence why a fury made the dps chart

Zylphax the Shredder

Allies: (04:31) 3053579 | 11267.82 [-Decapitate-14688]
Ranger 411199 | 1517.34
Warlock 410502 | 1514.77
Wizz 342904 | 1265.33
Warlock 308412 | 1138.05
Necro 281621 | 1039.19
ill 232585 | 858.25
Assasin 200680 | 740.52
Assasin 136836 | 504.93
Zerker 129292 | 477.09
SK 119079 | 439.41

A D'Morte sorcerer

Allies: (00:49) 795455 | 16233.78 [-Ice Nova-9152]
Warlock 76957 | 1570.55
Assasin 73290 | 1495.71
Ranger 68147 | 1390.76
Wizzard 65908 | 1345.06
[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. 53070 | 1083.06
Warlock 52498 | 1071.39
Swash 50543 | 1031.49
Necro 50274 | 1026.00
ill 40744 | 831.51
SK 38652 | 788.82
Guard 36969 | 754.47
SK29959 | 611.41

Othysis Muravian

Allies: (02:57) 3238997 | 18299.42 [-Decapitate-13119]
Swash 307301 | 1736.16
Warlock 307033 | 1734.65
[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 290039 | 1638.64
Ranger 285764 | 1614.49
Brig 275823 | 1558.32
[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 266339 | 1504.74
Necro 243066 | 1373.25
ill 180578 | 1020.22
Guard 163466 | 923.54
Warlock 115926 | 654.95

need I go on?

This was with 55-56 AA. With 1 Adornment 1st raid and no EoF gear, 2nd raid no EoF gear but 2 +14 int adornments. Those are the only raids I have done since I have come back.

Elria

Message Edited by Mastire on 12-13-2006 04:09 PM

awesome thats what I like to see, lots of data. and your warlock was stacking up nicely. it also helps to say what buffs you had for the parses (i list them when i post mine in the wizard parse thread)

Mastire · 12-14-2006, 09:06 AM

IllusiveThoughts wrote:

awesome thats what I like to see, lots of data. and your warlock was stacking up nicely. it also helps to say what buffs you had for the parses (i list them when i post mine in the wizard parse thread)

Had 950int ish.

With Troub in the group.

With the ill dynasim proc.

Woulda done better if I had time compression but oh well SMILEY

Elria

Melseb · 12-14-2006, 12:35 PM

Time Compression is the shizz-nasty!Daenarys70 WarlockMob SquadKithicor

Deathspell · 12-14-2006, 02:21 PM

Seriously, you tell me how I can parse high on heroics when I have a Ranger and a Wizard in my group that is using stuff like Manaburn or Fusion?Forget about epics for a second, epics are not common mobs like heroics which everybody can do.Let's stick to mobs that everybody does everyday.I'm genuinely interested if Warlocks can still parse that high, coz I know I don't get a chance when a mobs get in orange health with one nuke from a Wizard and the rest melts like snow in the sun from a Ranger & co.

Ruut Li · 12-14-2006, 05:43 PM

Either Im guilded with the uberest wizard ever (very possible) or I have to ask: [Removed for Content] are all yall's wizzies doing? lol

Ill have to post parsies when I get the opportunity.

Mastire · 12-14-2006, 08:03 PM

Deathspell wrote:
Seriously, you tell me how I can parse high on heroics when I have a Ranger and a Wizard in my group that is using stuff like Manaburn or Fusion?

Forget about epics for a second, epics are not common mobs like heroics which everybody can do.
Let's stick to mobs that everybody does everyday.

I'm genuinely interested if Warlocks can still parse that high, coz I know I don't get a chance when a mobs get in orange health with one nuke from a Wizard and the rest melts like snow in the sun from a Ranger & co.

These parces are all epic, to do max single target dps the figh has to last about 24-30 secs. 99% of heroic fight ever lasts that long. As well when your in a just 1 group its hard to get 950 int, as well as a tank that can hold agro troub and the ill buff. So heroic figths will be lower. Normaly I canparce 1k on heroics though.

And for the wizzard, some days he beets me some days I beet him. When he beets me its normaly by 100DPS for the raid.

And on a side not in HoS with time comp and no troubie, with 740 int I was able to break 1.8k on 2 single target fights. With the right group setup 2k is probably possible before adornments. Fully AA'd in the best group I would guess 2.2-2.3k would be possible on occasion.

Ravenhoft · 12-14-2006, 09:08 PM

VERY nice numbers. I will say that on my post, that was every attempt combined through out the raid. We had no Bard or chanter buffs, no mind buffs and our healer was an inqy. The group was 3 rangers, the inqy, me, and a fighter type (don't remember). I do pretty well on some fights and not so well on others (just like everyone I would suspect). We also wiped a good bit at one point in the raid, before finally calling it. Our tank was getting [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] one shotted, and if he stayed up, the adds got us. I KNOW I need to figure out my casting order, and I debuff til it sticks since I have the master 1 debuff, so I loose some dps there that is gained by the necros, sks, scouts using poisons etc.T5 raid Friday for status and labs on saturday. I will try to get some numbers posted after the raid saturday. I don't know if this is the right past to request it (not wanting to muddy the waters) but can we get some posts detailing casting order etc? Maybe starting a new one is a good idea. I have read some stuff on it from this, but not sure how outdated the info is.

Niun01 · 12-14-2006, 11:42 PM

Niun01 · 12-14-2006, 11:53 PM

Ok, im curious.. What is the difference between DPS and Ext DPS..Seems our zonewide Ext DPS is alot lower then the regular DPS..For example: my Ext DPS 977.99 but the regular DPS says 1280.40 for zonewide

IllusiveThoughts · 12-15-2006, 12:39 AM

Niun01 wrote:
Ok, im curious.. What is the difference between DPS and Ext DPS..

Seems our zonewide Ext DPS is alot lower then the regular DPS..

For example: my Ext DPS 977.99 but the regular DPS says 1280.40 for zonewide

EXTDPS = total damage divided by total time EVERYONE spent fighting

DPS = total damage divided by total time YOU spent fighting.

hope that clears it up.

Mastire · 12-15-2006, 05:49 AM

My AA Setup is STR 4-4-4-5-8, AGI 4-4-4-4-8, have 10 Warlock advancments to, putting them in the hsatings line 1st

My raid group normaly consists of a Troub, a wizzard, Brig, Fury , Sk or Another caster class>

Casting order for a single target that doesn't have an AE,

Broodlings
Aura of Nihility
Scourge of Shadows
War Pyre
Void Distortion
Cataclyst
Apoc
Soul Blister

I then cast in priority of when spells refresh

Aura
Catalyst + Apoc
Void Distortion
Broodlings
War Pyre
Soul Blister

Other spells inclusing Thwart are cast while I wait for refresh. To maximise DPS on some fights I do cast Netherlord and Corupt gift but I havn't farmed nil crystals so I rarly use them. Nethrous Realm I cast when the MT calls inc or when I see the mob running for the raid. I never use Void absolution or Nebula on a single target since power vs time vs damage = crap on single targets.

IllusiveThoughts · 12-15-2006, 06:03 AM

Mastire wrote:

My AA Setup is STR 4-4-4-5-8, AGI 4-4-4-4-8, have 10 Warlock advancments to, putting them in the hsatings line 1st

My raid group normaly consists of a Troub, a wizzard, Brig, Fury , Sk or Another caster class>

Casting order for a single target that doesn't have an AE,

Broodlings

Aura of Nihility

Scourge of Shadows

War Pyre

Void Distortion

Cataclyst

Apoc

Soul Blister

I then cast in priority of when spells refresh

Aura

Catalyst + Apoc

Void Distortion

Broodlings

War Pyre

Soul Blister

Other spells inclusing Thwart are cast while I wait for refresh. To maximise DPS on some fights I do cast Netherlord and Corupt gift but I havn't farmed nil crystals so I rarly use them. Nethrous Realm I cast when the MT calls inc or when I see the mob running for the raid. I never use Void absolution or Nebula on a single target since power vs time vs damage = crap on single targets.

btw not sure if you're mispelling "wizzard" on purpose, or if you just aren't catching it.

Mastire · 12-15-2006, 06:56 AM

IllusiveThoughts wrote:

My raid group normaly consists of a Troub, a wizzard, Brig, Fury , Sk or Another caster class>
btw not sure if you're mispelling "wizzard" on purpose, or if you just aren't catching it.

I suck at spelling, I know wiz only has one z... I just get in the habbet of spelling words wrong. ie the = hte

Phineus · 12-15-2006, 02:18 PM

77 aa's and Im in the top 3 usually. The aa's have bumped me up about 10-20% in dps it feels like. When Im out damaged its a swash monk or ranger doing it.

Deathspell · 12-15-2006, 05:18 PM

I always use Corrupt Gift on grouped mobs, it's very powerful, but unfortunately you have to use 1 or 2 debuffs to summon crystals, which are a waste on regular/heroics mobs.

Roobarb · 12-15-2006, 07:04 PM

Here is a some parses from last few days,usually have troub,fury buffs in group,no synergism.All aa's in hastenings no aftershock yet.Could be better zone parses if i wasnt slacking or dieing some fights SMILEY

Chel'Drak

Blood colossus from Mistmoore inner

Zone from MIS (excluding D'Morte assbag)

12-11-2006, 12:55 AM	#4
Witterqui General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 11	Complete HOS data , and then in my opinion 2 of the best mobs to judge DPS potential on , Pain and suffering . NO aoes no Real tank dmg , classes can focus on Raw DMG. EXTDPS Allies: (01:27:0 61147266 \| 11696.11 [Zerker-Vortex of Desecration-246248] Wizard 6513088 \| 1505.57 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 4994315 \| 1193.39 Ranger 4119946 \| 1075.70 Warlock 3819556 \| 1046.17 Wiz 4489782 \| 1030.48 Zerker 4941401 \| 1003.33 Conj 4145762 \| 951.30 Brig 2120112 \| 899.50 Pain Allies: (02:22) 2515005 \| 17711.30 [Wizard-Fusion-18293] Wizard 257542 \| 1813.68 Conj 204326 \| 1438.92 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 199550 \| 1405.28 Conj 190779 \| 1343.51 Warlock 186172 \| 1311.07 Ranger 183034 \| 1288.97 Wizard 165320 \| 1164.23 Swashy 161300 \| 1135.92 Zerker 150522 \| 1060.01 Suffering Allies: (02:20) 2532354 \| 18088.24 [[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]-Decapitate-23070] Wizard 248529 \| 1775.21 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 216169 \| 1544.06 Warlock 212788 \| 1519.91 Conj 202398 \| 1445.70 Wizard 178300 \| 1273.57 Ranger 173367 \| 1238.34 Conj 170530 \| 1218.07 Zerker 156433 \| 1117.38

12-11-2006, 01:24 AM	#5
IllusiveThoughts Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,311	Ravenhoft wrote: Edit: Wanted to add that this is EXT-DPS with the entire raid merged unless I messed something up. Allies: (31:5 18562339 \| 9677.97 [Illu-Manaburn-86190] Illu 2344420 \| 1222.33 Conjurer 1480835 \| 772.07 Ranger 1459475 \| 760.94 Ranger 1458586 \| 760.47 Warlock 1325855 \| 691.27 Assassin(i think) 1292049 \| 673.64 Wizard #2 1269748 \| 662.02 Wizard #3 1197873 \| 624.54 Conjurer 1099190 \| 573.09 ME - Voltair 964052 \| 502.63 SK (Main Tank) 764454 \| 398.57 SK 711317 \| 370.86 Berserker (Secondary / Add Tank) 663867 \| 346.12 -I forget A tank 613697 \| 319.97 Berserker 557698 \| 290.77 OK, there are my sad numbers...I am going to change up my casting order and play with it a bit, but I also didn't die as much as the rest. My group had 3 rangers, and first sign of trouble they tended to evac (not sure what that was about). I also debuffed until it stuck, which I do have one of those at master and one at adept 3. Occasionally pillaged for mana too, though I was usually the one needing it. I will hopefully see an improvement as I gear out somemore and get my masters back from the betrayl fiasco of a week or two ago. Ilu, nice to see you in action. You surely know how to play your class, and push it to the extreme no doubt. That 80k manaburn was something else...more than I got on any individual fight all night, kudos. It was nice seeing Obe in action too, I think he is one of the better warlocks I have raided with (which, I honestly don't see a lot around, but he is good). Keep the posts coming guys. -Voltair (I missed tonights raids, if Illu wants to post them here, feel free). Message Edited by Ravenhoft on 12-09-2006 08:26 PM since you guys are posting in ext dps and i usually post in DPS i'll repost the labs zone parse in ext dps here for you THis is labs ZONE parse. Allies: (57:22) 36447030 \| 10589 [Illu-Manaburn-55018] Illu 5926960 \| 1722 me wizard Oben 3900188 \| 1133 warlock Scht 2782633 \| 808 assasin Kyri 2749569 \| 799 wizard 2 Eapa 2311795 \| 672 conj Band 2057160 \| 598 zerker Etho 1881570 \| 547 sk MT __________________ The wizards creed: __________________________________________________ _____________________________________ you will die, you will die often, you will die for no reason, you will die for a reason, you will die because soe wants you to die, did I mention you will die? Start getting used to it.

12-12-2006, 05:17 PM	#6
KrAzE1 Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 54	MMIS last nite Name Start Time Duration Damage Healed DPS Ext DPS Hits Swings Dmg Taken Swashbuckler 8:42:35 PM 01:12:57 5818027 378 1329.23 1161.28 9820 10842 356494 Necro 8:42:35 PM 01:10:16 5634426 152628 1336.44 1124.64 11776 12311 412775 Kraze 8:42:34 PM 01:06:33 4914780 17078 1230.85 980.99 5403 5524 378652 Bruiser 8:42:36 PM 01:08:43 4402643 17769 1067.83 878.77 6803 7817 498774 Brigand 8:42:36 PM 01:12:03 4151616 0 960.36 828.67 6051 6962 431911 Ranger 8:42:43 PM 54:09 4120216 0 1268.15 822.40 4773 5091 167431 Necro 8:42:45 PM 01:10:22 4087111 204580 968.05 815.79 10797 11651 378517 Our wizard wasnt on last nite and the 2nd Necro in the parse rarely uses lifeburn. __________________

12-13-2006, 06:12 PM	#7
Inebriation Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 120	KrAzE1 wrote: Monday, December 04, 2006 - 8:12:15 PM to 8:45:27 PM Enable Table Sorting Name Start Time Duration Damage Healed DPS Ext DPS Hits Swings Dmg Taken Kraze (Me) 8:12:17 PM 40:16 3186924 8398 1319.09 1237.16 3050 3174 429176 Swashbuckler 8:12:15 PM 40:40 3133468 0 1284.21 1216.41 4748 5014 92720 Wizard 8:12:15 PM 39:18 2762066 3650 1171.36 1072.23 2244 2330 38146 Clockwork Menace 8:18:10 PM 18:20 2171746 129622 1974.32 843.07 800 1012 6516340 Necro 8:12:17 PM 40:06 1890948 106934 785.93 734.06 4812 5058 177112 Ranger 8:12:17 PM 39:38 1759554 10202 739.93 683.06 1786 1944 41656 Mad Tzikla 8:14:16 PM 07:26 1738476 0 3897.93 674.87 1918 1974 5595114 Brigand 8:12:15 PM 39:48 1548150 0 648.30 600.99 2440 2732 Heres one of the very few raidwide parses I parsed the highest. Its very rare we parse at the top and depends on the raid makeup and the raid zone your in. My job on this raid was to kill the adds that keep spawning. I was put with a pally and had a dedicated healer and the adds that keep spawning are Heroics so the died quickly. I think I will print this and frame it because it doesnt happen very often! PS: Il post some raid merge parses that reflect the normal Warlock dps when I get home from work. Well encounters such as Clockwork Menace which is very similiar to Chel'Drak allow us to parse decently because of the frequent add spawns that allow us to throw in anything such as Chaostorm or Rift and still allows us to do direct damage on the main encounter mob. PB aoes ftw. __________________ Naeca

12-13-2006, 09:28 PM	#8
Eldarath Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5	Is it just me or do these parses seem a little low to anyone else? __________________ ----------------------------------- Eldarath ~~Wizard~~Warlock 70 Sage 68 Saints of Norath

12-09-2006, 09:54 PM	#1
Primalooze Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 43	We have 2 raid capable warlocks in guild. Its very difficult to parse this high, and the warlocks are nearly always the first naked players.We generally put the 2 warlocks in the same group under a troub's dehate buff, but often use a paly's ammends on the warlocks. Its a shame that the warlock buffs get wasted in this way, but we only have 1 troub on most raids and its suicide to split us up..... the wizard is normally grouped in with us too.Necro very very rarely takes agro, and isn't normally in a group with dehate. Assassin normally parses much highter against the bosses, but less on the adds.Wizards are the same as assasinThese are from 2 recent raids, this is the average for whole raid.LABS(Necromancer) DPS:747,01, H:179283(Warlock) DPS:697,13, H:3424(Swashie) DPS:571,19, H:0(Wizard) DPS:565,36, H:1189(Guardian (MT) ) DPS:524,60, H:39972(Brigand) DPS:516,51, H:134(Assasin) DPS:485,36, H:4001(Swashie) DPS:481,58, H:697(Ranger) DPS:422,75, H:2127(Troub) DPS:401,12, H:986Deathtoll(Necromancer) D:781,13,H:140245(Warlock) D:725,47,H:7790(Wizard) D:616,17,H:7686(Ranger) D:578,66,H:0(Assasin) D:545,28,H:815(Guardian (MT) ) D:504,64,H:16722(Bruiser) D:495,49,H:17390(Swashie) D:452,71,H:4398

12-10-2006, 09:24 AM	#2
Ravenhoft Hero Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 20	Edit: Wanted to add that this is EXT-DPS with the entire raid merged unless I messed something up. Allies: (31:5 18562339 \| 9677.97 [Illu-Manaburn-86190]Illu 2344420 \| 1222.33Conjurer 1480835 \| 772.07Ranger 1459475 \| 760.94Ranger 1458586 \| 760.47Warlock 1325855 \| 691.27Assassin(i think) 1292049 \| 673.64Wizard #2 1269748 \| 662.02Wizard #3 1197873 \| 624.54Conjurer 1099190 \| 573.09ME - Voltair 964052 \| 502.63SK (Main Tank) 764454 \| 398.57SK 711317 \| 370.86Berserker (Secondary / Add Tank) 663867 \| 346.12-I forget A tank 613697 \| 319.97Berserker 557698 \| 290.77OK, there are my sad numbers...I am going to change up my casting order and play with it a bit, but I also didn't die as much as the rest. My group had 3 rangers, and first sign of trouble they tended to evac (not sure what that was about). I also debuffed until it stuck, which I do have one of those at master and one at adept 3. Occasionally pillaged for mana too, though I was usually the one needing it. I will hopefully see an improvement as I gear out somemore and get my masters back from the betrayl fiasco of a week or two ago.Ilu, nice to see you in action. You surely know how to play your class, and push it to the extreme no doubt. That 80k manaburn was something else...more than I got on any individual fight all night, kudos. It was nice seeing Obe in action too, I think he is one of the better warlocks I have raided with (which, I honestly don't see a lot around, but he is good).Keep the posts coming guys.-Voltair(I missed tonights raids, if Illu wants to post them here, feel free). Message Edited by Ravenhoft on 12-09-2006 08:26 PM

12-10-2006, 08:13 PM	#3
Ugho Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 41	This was from freethinkers raid the other night. Bunch of trash and first named. I have parsed over 1K many times in the past as well. Raid-wide Parse: NECRO 3502332 \| 1083.31 RANGER 3092661 \| 956.59 Ugho 3046614 \| 942.35 <-- Warlock RANGER 2804118 \| 867.34 CONJUROR 2533559 \| 783.66 NECRO 2376699 \| 735.14 NECRO 2197666 \| 679.76 WIZARD 2174355 \| 672.55 ... ... __________________ Ugho Level 79 Warlock, Level 80 Sage Mesmasher L76 Berzerker, L80 Armorer

12-14-2006, 01:38 AM	#9
IllusiveThoughts Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,311	Eldarath wrote: Is it just me or do these parses seem a little low to anyone else? maybe, but thats the highest i've seen our warlock parse in labs for the last 6 months. initially on the wizard parse thread he was in the 700s, and has grown over time to the 1100's (almost 1200's) for zonewide dps. thats a good improvement imho. __________________ The wizards creed: __________________________________________________ _____________________________________ you will die, you will die often, you will die for no reason, you will die for a reason, you will die because soe wants you to die, did I mention you will die? Start getting used to it.

12-14-2006, 01:53 AM	#10
Dabbie Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 70	Zonewide parses are going to be a little lower than the parse you're used to seeing after each fight, but I agree, these numbers seem on the low side. It's not asking too much of a warlock to parse 1200 on a single target fight. Cast 70 Warlock Saints of Norrath Blackburrow

12-14-2006, 02:01 AM	#11
Mastire Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 278	Dabbie wrote: Zonewide parses are going to be a little lower than the parse you're used to seeing after each fight, but I agree, these numbers seem on the low side. It's not asking too much of a warlock to parse 1200 on a single target fight. Cast 70 Warlock Saints of Norrath Blackburrow Agree, with the the right group I am able to do upwords of 1.5-1.6k reguraly on single target mobs. Fully Adorned and with 100AA's I would think it would be possible to break 2k on occasion.

12-14-2006, 02:13 AM	#12
IllusiveThoughts Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,311	Mastire wrote: Dabbie wrote: Zonewide parses are going to be a little lower than the parse you're used to seeing after each fight, but I agree, these numbers seem on the low side. It's not asking too much of a warlock to parse 1200 on a single target fight. Cast 70 Warlock Saints of Norrath Blackburrow Agree, with the the right group I am able to do upwords of 1.5-1.6k reguraly on single target mobs. Fully Adorned and with 100AA's I would think it would be possible to break 2k on occasion. please share these parses guys. not trying to attack you in anyway, or making it seem like you have to defend your point. but this thread is for posting actual parses, not posting what you can do. so lets see em! __________________ The wizards creed: __________________________________________________ _____________________________________ you will die, you will die often, you will die for no reason, you will die for a reason, you will die because soe wants you to die, did I mention you will die? Start getting used to it.

12-14-2006, 05:08 AM	#13
Mastire Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 278	Emerald Halls: Only 1 named up in zone so no parce for that since it pwned us An emerald entrancer Allies: (00:41) 866852 \| 21142.73 [-Void Distortion-7143] Brig 89875 \| 2192.07 Ranger 80506 \| 1963.56 Swash 78489 \| 1914.37 Conj 74252 \| 1811.02 Warlock 67918 \| 1656.54 Ranger 65181 \| 1589.78 Warlock 59713 \| 1456.42 Necro 54368 \| 1326.05 Illus 45863 \| 1118.61 Assasin 44636 \| 1088.68 A hidden keeper: Allies: (00:47) 847225 \| 18026.06 [-Pestilent Touch-7630] Ranger 77602 \| 1651.11 Warlock 76958 \| 1637.40 Assasin70737 \| 1505.04 Swash 67740 \| 1441.28 Brig 61712 \| 1313.02 Conj 59909 \| 1274.66 Zerker 56784 \| 1208.17 Warlock 56508 \| 1202.30 Ranger 54968 \| 1169.53 SK 54541 \| 1160.45 Ill 45951 \| 977.68 Twilight prowler: Allies: (00:42) 803225 \| 19124.40 [-Thunderbolt-5931] Warlock 66566 \| 1584.91 Swash 63231 \| 1505.50 Brig 62905 \| 1497.74 Ranger 62130 \| 1479.29 Assasin 58091 \| 1383.12 Zerker 57307 \| 1364.45 Ranger 50977 \| 1213.74 Conj 47501 \| 1130.98 Necro 45019 \| 1071.88 Ill 43729 \| 1041.17 SK 40302 \| 959.57 SK 34669 \| 825.45 Dirge 29092 \| 692.67 Warlock 28655 \| 682.26 a hidden tender Allies: (00:42) 826308 \| 19674.00 [-Rain of Arrows-6879] Swash 76253 \| 1815.55 Ranger 76159 \| 1813.31 Warlock 67731 \| 1612.64 Brig 60926 \| 1450.62 Warlock 58443 \| 1391.50 Ranger 58221 \| 1386.21 Conj 50275 \| 1197.02 Necro 49446 \| 1177.29 Assasin 47851 \| 1139.31 Ill 46910 \| 1116.91 Zerker 46743 \| 1112.93 SK 39714 \| 945.57 SK 29459 \| 701.40 Ect. I wasn't doing this every fight alot I was doing 1-1.3k dps but it wasn't out of the norm for me to do that, I when I had ro's flame on Merged: Allies: (48:35) 46685027 \| 16015.45 [-Sniper Shot-14949] Ranger 4376860 \| 1501.50 Brig 3950477 \| 1355.22 Warlock 3705243 \| 1271.10 Swash 3575221 \| 1226.49 Ranger 3237707 \| 1110.71 Warlock 2985550 \| 1024.20 Assasin 2800579 \| 960.75 Conj 2639191 \| 905.38 ill 2620003 \| 898.80 Necro 2315990 \| 794.51 Only thing about zone parce I removed the 20 attempts from the named mob who pwned us Parce is normal, Ranger>Brig>Me is the normal Freethinkers Hideout: No brig so dps was lower then it should A D'Morte Ransacker Allies: (01:11) 777982 \| 10957.49 [-Killing Blade-9301] Warlock 106140 \| 1494.93 Assasin 99669 \| 1403.79 Wizzard 91794 \| 1292.87 Warlock 73727 \| 1038.41 SK 63298 \| 891.52 Zerker 52121 \| 734.10 Necro 51630 \| 727.18 Guard 46657 \| 657.14 A D'Morte Siphoner Allies: (01:05) 789800 \| 12150.77 [Ice Nova-11499] Warlock 100740 \| 1549.85 Wizzard 92944 \| 1429.91 Assasin 83194 \| 1279.91 Ranger 80996 \| 1246.09 Warlock 66724 \| 1026.52 Necro 59710 \| 918.62 SK 44772 \| 688.80 Guard 40434 \| 622.06 Fury 36770 \| 565.69 Were havign probs zoning people in atthis point so hence why a fury made the dps chart Zylphax the Shredder Allies: (04:31) 3053579 \| 11267.82 [-Decapitate-14688] Ranger 411199 \| 1517.34 Warlock 410502 \| 1514.77 Wizz 342904 \| 1265.33 Warlock 308412 \| 1138.05 Necro 281621 \| 1039.19 ill 232585 \| 858.25 Assasin 200680 \| 740.52 Assasin 136836 \| 504.93 Zerker 129292 \| 477.09 SK 119079 \| 439.41 A D'Morte sorcerer Allies: (00:49) 795455 \| 16233.78 [-Ice Nova-9152] Warlock 76957 \| 1570.55 Assasin 73290 \| 1495.71 Ranger 68147 \| 1390.76 Wizzard 65908 \| 1345.06 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. 53070 \| 1083.06 Warlock 52498 \| 1071.39 Swash 50543 \| 1031.49 Necro 50274 \| 1026.00 ill 40744 \| 831.51 SK 38652 \| 788.82 Guard 36969 \| 754.47 SK29959 \| 611.41 Othysis Muravian Allies: (02:57) 3238997 \| 18299.42 [-Decapitate-13119] Swash 307301 \| 1736.16 Warlock 307033 \| 1734.65 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 290039 \| 1638.64 Ranger 285764 \| 1614.49 Brig 275823 \| 1558.32 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 266339 \| 1504.74 Necro 243066 \| 1373.25 ill 180578 \| 1020.22 Guard 163466 \| 923.54 Warlock 115926 \| 654.95 need I go on? This was with 55-56 AA. With 1 Adornment 1st raid and no EoF gear, 2nd raid no EoF gear but 2 +14 int adornments. Those are the only raids I have done since I have come back. Elria Message Edited by Mastire on 12-13-2006 04:09 PM

12-14-2006, 07:41 AM	#14
KrAzE1 Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 54	edited Message Edited by KrAzE1 on 12-13-2006 09:43 PM __________________

12-14-2006, 08:45 AM	#15
IllusiveThoughts Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,311	Mastire wrote: Emerald Halls: Only 1 named up in zone so no parce for that since it pwned us An emerald entrancer Allies: (00:41) 866852 \| 21142.73 [-Void Distortion-7143] Brig 89875 \| 2192.07 Ranger 80506 \| 1963.56 Swash 78489 \| 1914.37 Conj 74252 \| 1811.02 Warlock 67918 \| 1656.54 Ranger 65181 \| 1589.78 Warlock 59713 \| 1456.42 Necro 54368 \| 1326.05 Illus 45863 \| 1118.61 Assasin 44636 \| 1088.68 A hidden keeper: Allies: (00:47) 847225 \| 18026.06 [-Pestilent Touch-7630] Ranger 77602 \| 1651.11 Warlock 76958 \| 1637.40 Assasin70737 \| 1505.04 Swash 67740 \| 1441.28 Brig 61712 \| 1313.02 Conj 59909 \| 1274.66 Zerker 56784 \| 1208.17 Warlock 56508 \| 1202.30 Ranger 54968 \| 1169.53 SK 54541 \| 1160.45 Ill 45951 \| 977.68 Twilight prowler: Allies: (00:42) 803225 \| 19124.40 [-Thunderbolt-5931] Warlock 66566 \| 1584.91 Swash 63231 \| 1505.50 Brig 62905 \| 1497.74 Ranger 62130 \| 1479.29 Assasin 58091 \| 1383.12 Zerker 57307 \| 1364.45 Ranger 50977 \| 1213.74 Conj 47501 \| 1130.98 Necro 45019 \| 1071.88 Ill 43729 \| 1041.17 SK 40302 \| 959.57 SK 34669 \| 825.45 Dirge 29092 \| 692.67 Warlock 28655 \| 682.26 a hidden tender Allies: (00:42) 826308 \| 19674.00 [-Rain of Arrows-6879] Swash 76253 \| 1815.55 Ranger 76159 \| 1813.31 Warlock 67731 \| 1612.64 Brig 60926 \| 1450.62 Warlock 58443 \| 1391.50 Ranger 58221 \| 1386.21 Conj 50275 \| 1197.02 Necro 49446 \| 1177.29 Assasin 47851 \| 1139.31 Ill 46910 \| 1116.91 Zerker 46743 \| 1112.93 SK 39714 \| 945.57 SK 29459 \| 701.40 Ect. I wasn't doing this every fight alot I was doing 1-1.3k dps but it wasn't out of the norm for me to do that, I when I had ro's flame on Merged: Allies: (48:35) 46685027 \| 16015.45 [-Sniper Shot-14949] Ranger 4376860 \| 1501.50 Brig 3950477 \| 1355.22 Warlock 3705243 \| 1271.10 Swash 3575221 \| 1226.49 Ranger 3237707 \| 1110.71 Warlock 2985550 \| 1024.20 Assasin 2800579 \| 960.75 Conj 2639191 \| 905.38 ill 2620003 \| 898.80 Necro 2315990 \| 794.51 Only thing about zone parce I removed the 20 attempts from the named mob who pwned us Parce is normal, Ranger>Brig>Me is the normal Freethinkers Hideout: No brig so dps was lower then it should A D'Morte Ransacker Allies: (01:11) 777982 \| 10957.49 [-Killing Blade-9301] Warlock 106140 \| 1494.93 Assasin 99669 \| 1403.79 Wizzard 91794 \| 1292.87 Warlock 73727 \| 1038.41 SK 63298 \| 891.52 Zerker 52121 \| 734.10 Necro 51630 \| 727.18 Guard 46657 \| 657.14 A D'Morte Siphoner Allies: (01:05) 789800 \| 12150.77 [Ice Nova-11499] Warlock 100740 \| 1549.85 Wizzard 92944 \| 1429.91 Assasin 83194 \| 1279.91 Ranger 80996 \| 1246.09 Warlock 66724 \| 1026.52 Necro 59710 \| 918.62 SK 44772 \| 688.80 Guard 40434 \| 622.06 Fury 36770 \| 565.69 Were havign probs zoning people in atthis point so hence why a fury made the dps chart Zylphax the Shredder Allies: (04:31) 3053579 \| 11267.82 [-Decapitate-14688] Ranger 411199 \| 1517.34 Warlock 410502 \| 1514.77 Wizz 342904 \| 1265.33 Warlock 308412 \| 1138.05 Necro 281621 \| 1039.19 ill 232585 \| 858.25 Assasin 200680 \| 740.52 Assasin 136836 \| 504.93 Zerker 129292 \| 477.09 SK 119079 \| 439.41 A D'Morte sorcerer Allies: (00:49) 795455 \| 16233.78 [-Ice Nova-9152] Warlock 76957 \| 1570.55 Assasin 73290 \| 1495.71 Ranger 68147 \| 1390.76 Wizzard 65908 \| 1345.06 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. 53070 \| 1083.06 Warlock 52498 \| 1071.39 Swash 50543 \| 1031.49 Necro 50274 \| 1026.00 ill 40744 \| 831.51 SK 38652 \| 788.82 Guard 36969 \| 754.47 SK29959 \| 611.41 Othysis Muravian Allies: (02:57) 3238997 \| 18299.42 [-Decapitate-13119] Swash 307301 \| 1736.16 Warlock 307033 \| 1734.65 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 290039 \| 1638.64 Ranger 285764 \| 1614.49 Brig 275823 \| 1558.32 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 266339 \| 1504.74 Necro 243066 \| 1373.25 ill 180578 \| 1020.22 Guard 163466 \| 923.54 Warlock 115926 \| 654.95 need I go on? This was with 55-56 AA. With 1 Adornment 1st raid and no EoF gear, 2nd raid no EoF gear but 2 +14 int adornments. Those are the only raids I have done since I have come back. Elria Message Edited by Mastire on 12-13-2006 04:09 PM awesome thats what I like to see, lots of data. and your warlock was stacking up nicely. it also helps to say what buffs you had for the parses (i list them when i post mine in the wizard parse thread) __________________ The wizards creed: __________________________________________________ _____________________________________ you will die, you will die often, you will die for no reason, you will die for a reason, you will die because soe wants you to die, did I mention you will die? Start getting used to it.

12-14-2006, 09:06 AM	#16
Mastire Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 278	IllusiveThoughts wrote: awesome thats what I like to see, lots of data. and your warlock was stacking up nicely. it also helps to say what buffs you had for the parses (i list them when i post mine in the wizard parse thread) Had 950int ish. With Troub in the group. With the ill dynasim proc. Woulda done better if I had time compression but oh well Elria

12-14-2006, 12:35 PM	#17
Melseb Seer Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 89	Time Compression is the shizz-nasty!Daenarys70 WarlockMob SquadKithicor

12-14-2006, 02:21 PM	#18
Deathspell Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 727	Seriously, you tell me how I can parse high on heroics when I have a Ranger and a Wizard in my group that is using stuff like Manaburn or Fusion?Forget about epics for a second, epics are not common mobs like heroics which everybody can do.Let's stick to mobs that everybody does everyday.I'm genuinely interested if Warlocks can still parse that high, coz I know I don't get a chance when a mobs get in orange health with one nuke from a Wizard and the rest melts like snow in the sun from a Ranger & co.

12-14-2006, 05:43 PM	#19
Ruut Li Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 561	Either Im guilded with the uberest wizard ever (very possible) or I have to ask: [Removed for Content] are all yall's wizzies doing? lol Ill have to post parsies when I get the opportunity.

12-14-2006, 08:03 PM	#20
Mastire Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 278	Deathspell wrote: Seriously, you tell me how I can parse high on heroics when I have a Ranger and a Wizard in my group that is using stuff like Manaburn or Fusion? Forget about epics for a second, epics are not common mobs like heroics which everybody can do. Let's stick to mobs that everybody does everyday. I'm genuinely interested if Warlocks can still parse that high, coz I know I don't get a chance when a mobs get in orange health with one nuke from a Wizard and the rest melts like snow in the sun from a Ranger & co. These parces are all epic, to do max single target dps the figh has to last about 24-30 secs. 99% of heroic fight ever lasts that long. As well when your in a just 1 group its hard to get 950 int, as well as a tank that can hold agro troub and the ill buff. So heroic figths will be lower. Normaly I canparce 1k on heroics though. And for the wizzard, some days he beets me some days I beet him. When he beets me its normaly by 100DPS for the raid. And on a side not in HoS with time comp and no troubie, with 740 int I was able to break 1.8k on 2 single target fights. With the right group setup 2k is probably possible before adornments. Fully AA'd in the best group I would guess 2.2-2.3k would be possible on occasion.

12-14-2006, 09:08 PM	#21
Ravenhoft Hero Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 20	VERY nice numbers. I will say that on my post, that was every attempt combined through out the raid. We had no Bard or chanter buffs, no mind buffs and our healer was an inqy. The group was 3 rangers, the inqy, me, and a fighter type (don't remember). I do pretty well on some fights and not so well on others (just like everyone I would suspect). We also wiped a good bit at one point in the raid, before finally calling it. Our tank was getting [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] one shotted, and if he stayed up, the adds got us. I KNOW I need to figure out my casting order, and I debuff til it sticks since I have the master 1 debuff, so I loose some dps there that is gained by the necros, sks, scouts using poisons etc.T5 raid Friday for status and labs on saturday. I will try to get some numbers posted after the raid saturday. I don't know if this is the right past to request it (not wanting to muddy the waters) but can we get some posts detailing casting order etc? Maybe starting a new one is a good idea. I have read some stuff on it from this, but not sure how outdated the info is.

12-14-2006, 11:42 PM	#22
Niun01 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 113	Ok, here is our zonewide parse from last night.. Bit on the low side, but alot of our team is MiA for the holidays.Allies: (01:03:34) 42568626 \| 11261.15 [Sethinus-Decapitate-21704]Necro: 1053.79 \| 1300Ranger: 990.57 \| 1394Assassin: 980.92 \| 1348Isio: 977.99 \| 1079Ranger: 872.77 \| 1314Ranger: 794.16 \| 857Brigand: 739.54 \| 790Brigand: 689.94 \| 839SK: 610.55 \| 1975Coercor: 510.29 \| 75Pally: 471.42 \| 1340Illusionist: 458.17 \| 281Tank: 428.67 \| 39 __________________

12-14-2006, 11:53 PM	#23
Niun01 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 113	Ok, im curious.. What is the difference between DPS and Ext DPS..Seems our zonewide Ext DPS is alot lower then the regular DPS..For example: my Ext DPS 977.99 but the regular DPS says 1280.40 for zonewide __________________

12-15-2006, 12:39 AM	#24
IllusiveThoughts Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,311	Niun01 wrote: Ok, im curious.. What is the difference between DPS and Ext DPS.. Seems our zonewide Ext DPS is alot lower then the regular DPS.. For example: my Ext DPS 977.99 but the regular DPS says 1280.40 for zonewide EXTDPS = total damage divided by total time EVERYONE spent fighting DPS = total damage divided by total time YOU spent fighting. hope that clears it up. __________________ The wizards creed: __________________________________________________ _____________________________________ you will die, you will die often, you will die for no reason, you will die for a reason, you will die because soe wants you to die, did I mention you will die? Start getting used to it.

12-15-2006, 05:49 AM	#25
Mastire Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 278	My AA Setup is STR 4-4-4-5-8, AGI 4-4-4-4-8, have 10 Warlock advancments to, putting them in the hsatings line 1st My raid group normaly consists of a Troub, a wizzard, Brig, Fury , Sk or Another caster class> Casting order for a single target that doesn't have an AE, Broodlings Aura of Nihility Scourge of Shadows War Pyre Void Distortion Cataclyst Apoc Soul Blister I then cast in priority of when spells refresh Aura Catalyst + Apoc Void Distortion Broodlings War Pyre Soul Blister Other spells inclusing Thwart are cast while I wait for refresh. To maximise DPS on some fights I do cast Netherlord and Corupt gift but I havn't farmed nil crystals so I rarly use them. Nethrous Realm I cast when the MT calls inc or when I see the mob running for the raid. I never use Void absolution or Nebula on a single target since power vs time vs damage = crap on single targets.

12-15-2006, 06:03 AM	#26
IllusiveThoughts Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,311	Mastire wrote: My AA Setup is STR 4-4-4-5-8, AGI 4-4-4-4-8, have 10 Warlock advancments to, putting them in the hsatings line 1st My raid group normaly consists of a Troub, a wizzard, Brig, Fury , Sk or Another caster class> Casting order for a single target that doesn't have an AE, Broodlings Aura of Nihility Scourge of Shadows War Pyre Void Distortion Cataclyst Apoc Soul Blister I then cast in priority of when spells refresh Aura Catalyst + Apoc Void Distortion Broodlings War Pyre Soul Blister Other spells inclusing Thwart are cast while I wait for refresh. To maximise DPS on some fights I do cast Netherlord and Corupt gift but I havn't farmed nil crystals so I rarly use them. Nethrous Realm I cast when the MT calls inc or when I see the mob running for the raid. I never use Void absolution or Nebula on a single target since power vs time vs damage = crap on single targets. btw not sure if you're mispelling "wizzard" on purpose, or if you just aren't catching it. __________________ The wizards creed: __________________________________________________ _____________________________________ you will die, you will die often, you will die for no reason, you will die for a reason, you will die because soe wants you to die, did I mention you will die? Start getting used to it.

12-15-2006, 06:56 AM	#27
Mastire Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 278	IllusiveThoughts wrote: My raid group normaly consists of a Troub, a wizzard, Brig, Fury , Sk or Another caster class> btw not sure if you're mispelling "wizzard" on purpose, or if you just aren't catching it. I suck at spelling, I know wiz only has one z... I just get in the habbet of spelling words wrong. ie the = hte

12-15-2006, 02:18 PM	#28
Phineus Server: Venekor Guild: Shadows of Storm Rank: Servant of the Shadow Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 214	77 aa's and Im in the top 3 usually. The aa's have bumped me up about 10-20% in dps it feels like. When Im out damaged its a swash monk or ranger doing it.

12-15-2006, 05:18 PM	#29
Deathspell Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 727	I always use Corrupt Gift on grouped mobs, it's very powerful, but unfortunately you have to use 1 or 2 debuffs to summon crystals, which are a waste on regular/heroics mobs.

12-15-2006, 07:04 PM	#30
Roobarb Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4	Here is a some parses from last few days,usually have troub,fury buffs in group,no synergism.All aa's in hastenings no aftershock yet.Could be better zone parses if i wasnt slacking or dieing some fights Chel'Drak Allies: (06:09) 4261624 \| 11549.12 [Wizard-Fusion-19389] Wiz 565028 \| 1531.24 Warlock 468383 \| 1269.33 Ranger 460609 \| 1248.26 Necro 421762 \| 1142.99 Brigand 298309 \| 808.43 Blood colossus from Mistmoore inner Allies: (02:21) 2849869 \| 20211.84 [Wiz-Ice Nova-22491](single target) Swash 292895 \| 2077.27 Wiz 288584 \| 2046.70 Conj 257537 \| 1826.50 Brig 253561 \| 1798.31 Warlock 249794 \| 1771.59 Ranger 219630 \| 1557.66 Zone from MIS (excluding D'Morte assbag) Allies: (42:32) 44645440 \| 17494.29 [Wiz-Fusion-30755] Wiz 4652493 \| 1823.08 Swash 3968683 \| 1555.13 Ranger 3782423 \| 1482.14 Necro 3698407 \| 1449.22 Brig 3580504 \| 1403.02 Warlock 3408245 \| 1335.52 Freethinkers full zone (including D'Morte) Allies: (40:43) 36702190 \| 15023.41 [Warlock-Incinerate-36866] Wiz 3913496 \| 1601.92 Conj 3113180 \| 1274.33 Assasin 3060522 \| 1252.77 Necro 2970300 \| 1215.84 Ranger 2921514 \| 1195.87 Warlock 2906376 \| 1189.68 Swash 2815550 \| 1152.50