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I usually get 1.1k-1.4k+ on most encounters using the str/wis aa lines and being buffed by a troub. That doesn't always make me 1st though, since our necro usually does more, up to 1700 dps.I'll need to do some more tests and then i'll switch to agi/wis to see how that is.
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I'd swap to Agi/Wis to check it out post LU#24 or go back to get the str for crits if I had more free respecs, or respecs that didn't cost me 13 plat. But I'm also on a PvP server where mages survival rate is pretty much none. It's a scouts game there. But for that reason I have the +700 mit from STA line and currently specced 8 for brainstorm and 8 for freehand and got the 12% power reduction.I just think it's a bit silly that a class as purely DPS based as a wizard with little to nothing else to offer a raid has to be super optimized 110% both for spells, achievements, and gear if he wants to come out #1 among all the other classes. Where as other classes like Berserkers, Necromancers, Rangers and Conjurors doesn't have to be so super optimized to get a good result.
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06-29-2006, 06:26 PM
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I know there was a bruser, 2 conj, 3 wizzies, The conj was using his scout pet, however I suggested he start to use his mage pet as almost every trash mob had an aoe. The raid leader did an excellent job at calling the aoe's and without that know we wouldn't of been so successful. Yeah I spent a bit of time after going over the zonewide parse and where my damage comes from. when I compared it to the other wizards I was using more of my arsinal and my damage was more spread out, top 4 were fusion, ice nova, ball of lava, and ice sheild, as there aren't many aoe fights in this zone. protoferno was doing about 140dps and close to 180 if we counted firey end on the encounters I was vigilant to keep him up after the aoe. ball of lava always gets priority over other spells once it has refreshed, even rending icicles. I try to move my spell chain around queing that up right as its refreshed every single time, and I also started to open with it after rending icicles instead of protoferno like I normally do. also protoferno had 0 misses for the whole zone, kinda shocked me as all the mobs in there are yellow 71-74. I dont know why there was such a big gap between myself and the other wizard(s), he had some nice fabled / leg gear and said he had 14 or 16 t7 masters cant remember exactally, no ice nova though. His damage was more concentrated with ice nova, ball of lava, sunstrike (i hardly cast this), rending icicles, and protoferno. so I can only assume he spent the other time using his cannibalization spells and waiting on refreshes, whistl I chained away sucking down my power. I did pay for this dps however when ever the MT went down I was almost always No2 on the hate list. and got whacked immidiately after. I ended up in backup gear for the last 2 fights before the raid was called. I did use one suggestion here on the long fights and that was to try to match my power pool with the named HP, it worked out well ensuring I didn't go OOM on the 5+ min fights. Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 06-29-2006 07:35 AM
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06-30-2006, 12:49 PM
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>IT :I dont know why there was such a big gap between myself and the other wizard(s), ... more concentrated with ice nova, ball of lava, sunstrike (i hardly cast this), rending icicles, and protoferno. yeah, he's using DDs only (more or less), and you also use all DOTS (surge, GW, Irr and FoR being big dots for me) : in all my parses in lab's this makes a lot of differences : lots of wizards do not thing about DOTS and if you remember the parses I already published, they can count for 1/3 to 1/2 of our damages (http://perso.orange.fr/galinou/tmp/wizard.html)
>IT : I did pay for this dps however when ever the MT went down I was almost always No2 on the hate list. and got whacked immidiately after. I ended up in backup gear for the last 2 fights before the raid was called. yeah, same for me ! lol, I tried to buy repair kit, but it is really too expensive : I prefer spare stuff.
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07-01-2006, 01:41 AM
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I didn't use my DoTs alot until recently (Only surge, gawd I wish they'd fix it tirggering catalyst/freehand), they seem to have a rather large impact over just pure nuking. This leads to much experimentation needed to find a more optimal cast pattern if one wants to be #1 for total damage at the end of a fight.
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on mobs without aoe's i'll even cast phoenix blade on myself(pre-fight) if i have an open conc slot, and sit behind the mob with auto attack on, so i dont have to waste time positioning for fusion/forge of ro/ firestorm. grizzlefazzle can and has hit for 150-200 a swing in between casts combine that with another 250 (over 3s) with the phoenix blade proc and you usually end up with about 50-60dps boost from just mele, my typical chain on these non aoe raid trash mobs i'll start with rending icicles and open with ice nova, so that it'll be back up before the mob expires and i can get another 10-12k dmg from casting it a 2nd time just before the mob expires. then follow that up with a (surge of flames) ball of lava, and fire off surging tempest, protoferno, then forge of ro, ice sheild, then ball of lava again, firestorm, rending icicles, fusion, ball of lava, firey convultions, firestorm, irradiate, ice sheild, ball of lava, sunstrike, then at that point either rending icicles, firestorm, ice nova or rending icicles and ice nova depending on how much hp the mob has left and how fast its hp is dropping. of course this is best case senario where hate isn't a concern and you have at least amends on you and MT has dirge or coercer for hate gain, because I'm not spending any time casting concussive or ceace. Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 06-30-2006 03:22 PM Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 06-30-2006 03:24 PM
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07-01-2006, 08:02 AM
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Ilu your set up definitely is going to favor the agi line because you chose not to go for catalyst. Without catalyst you have a 13 pct chance on average to do about 2/3 more damage through crits or approximately 10 pct more damage total as opposed to 14 pct more with agi. Add catalyst to the mix though and assuming you can fire about 12 spells a minute you can add another approx 8 pct chance for an extra 2/3 damage or about 5 pct more damage. Add freehand to this cast (yes they do stack) and now you got even more for your money.Add the two together and on on average str should cause a little more damage than agi.However if you have 8 points in catalyst somethings gotta give in my case it was freehand at 24 instead of 30 so a slight give back and also a giveback in that catalyst has a 1 second cast. I've respeced to try your choice and dont see a lot of difference in total damage. However i'm going back to the strength line because it is more power efficient, the guaranteed crits are much more effective when I'm soloing and dang it I miss the major satisfaction of seeing those big orange numbers float up.Duufuss lvl70 pallyDuffus lvl70 wizEverfrost
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07-01-2006, 12:18 PM
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I got permission from the guild I usually raid with to post the parse results from today's lyceum run. I have to pre-face this with me being the most dps buffed i have ever been. The troubador had 7.2% allegro (spell haste) 7.5% crit chance aa's, along with m1 arias, I had synergism m1 on me, and the coercer 23% de-agro m1, and also a m1 amends at 41%. I couldnt pull agro even when i tried. So let's assume this is almost as good as it can get for a wizard. Total spell haste with aa's and troub 21.6% total crit chance 13.4% total hate reduction 105% Without further waiting heres the ZONE wide parse. Allies: (01:24:42) 36840705 | 7248.90 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-25836] Heres the named parse, it took over 8 minutes because somet of the raid had left by then and we did it with only 3 groups on our first attempt I just cant believe i parsed over 1K on an EIGHT minute fight. i was using EVERY canni spell as soon as they refreshed, plus shard, plus manastone, plus potion, plus class hat. conj spent most of the 2nd half of raid sharding people. It was the best raid fight i've ever been on. Allies: (08:13) 2436934 | 4943.07 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-19223]
and here's some parses to show a wizards potential when you get as much hate reduc and group buffs as i had. (btw these are single targets Allies: (01:00) 383146 | 6385.77 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-18435] Allies: (01:22) 645017 | 7866.06 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-16436] Allies: (01:3 Heres a nice 4 min 45s fight parse Allies: (04:44) 2314695 | 8150.33 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-18427] but well you get the idea. I used to think these #'s were impossible but now i'm a believer. All it took for me to inflate my dps another 600-700 was synergism, and a troub with 7.2% allegro + 7.5% crit chance, + coercer m1 de-agro, and amends. Can you imagine what my dps would of been if we had the brigand show up? it would of been rediculous. Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 07-01-2006 01:19 AM
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07-01-2006, 03:24 PM
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Ilu wrote:Catalyst is only good for 1 crit on one spell every 1 minute. Doesn't seem worth it at all to me when I could pump those 8 points into something more useful.___________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________Cataylst should be precast before the pull so that the recast timer starts. Theoretically you could have a crit on nova and fusion back to back with freehand on your choice. As a practical matter timing usually dictates a spell or 2 in between the two casts (side benefit you live longer). So I usually lead off with a catalyst freehand nova, debuff, and depending on the timer lava, move in and catalyst fusion. I usually get 3 catalyst casts on the trash mobs in halls with the last cast somtimes the finisher. Although we never put up numbers like your raids ( I am awed) the str setup usually has me in a similar position atop the dps chain in our guild.Duufuss lvl70 pallyDuffus lvl70 wizEverfrostEdit note: forgot my sig dang it
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07-01-2006, 06:38 PM
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>IT : Illu 857 | 7181893 | 1417.04 (me)Allestair 936 | 4815298 | 953.86 (conjuror)Kyrika 541 | 3385747 | 670.94 (wizard)I don't understand. You have more than double damage than the other wiz.Did you examine what's the spells he's casting and how many ? I can admit a 20, maybe 30 % diff, but not a 100% (or 140?) ! this is no more a question of AA, (btw, do you know what AA line they chose ?) but a question of knowing how to play.Well, in rude terms, either you are a god or they slack.
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07-01-2006, 10:27 PM
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hrm thats a very very good point. I hadn't considered using it in that way. Very nice work with maximizing the timers on catalyst and thanks for sharing. I know some wizards who do have the str line and this could benefit them immensely.
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07-01-2006, 10:59 PM
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I've been helping kyrika with a few suggestions on spell chains, and we've started to help maximize her dps as well. In her defense (shes a she not a he Here's my zone parse pie graph and data,
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You can draw your own conclusions. Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 07-01-2006 12:01 PM
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07-01-2006, 11:09 PM
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oh and heres another parse of when the conjuror was grouped with me and the troubador (he uses his mage pet) and I think hes a darn good conjuror. He did pull agro and die at the last 10 or so seconds at the end of the fight so he would of parsed a little bit higher, but overall you can see that he's pretty close to me, and when we dont have the troubador we swap places usually for first on dps albeit not always first on dmg (i usually win on total dmg) again you can see kyrika got a hh on fusion (actually higher than my highest hit ever grats girl! ) Allies: (02:00) 1117650 | 9313.75 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-25836]
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07-01-2006, 11:47 PM
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I tried to analyze and compare with your fellow wizz.(note : list those spells by decreasing damage, it is much easier for me to understand what are the big differences)/You generally have an average damage much higher than her., only difference is Fusion -i bet she's got master 1 also, and uses more freehand ? - but you cast much more than her, much more, between 50% (BOL, Fusion) and 100% (IN, GW, FOR).As both casting are not sorted on damage, I don't want to retype to analyze more. But 75% more casting with very often 25% more average makes a lot of difference and can explain that you are at 100% more damages. ah yes, another big difference is the use of AE... you do, she hardly does. and here 500K damage also !my hypothesis :I wonder if she does not loose too much time casting fusion ? dunno, can be an hypothesis. as well, maybe she does not take enough risks ? you have more AAs, but this is not enough to explain a double number in casting the main spells. ..If i were her (but I am not, and this is just an idea after looking at one log)first try : cast more spells without too much agro, to see if there is a difference after...1/ look if you don't loose lots of seconds with fusion2/ cast AE much more in that zone (Lab's is another problem) GW, FOR and Firestorm3/ use more ProtofernoAfter that, increase DDs (IN and BOL) .. even without amend I think you can cast more, and even if you die more it would be a good deal. ...and analyze again after all that ! ..now that's just what i think at it after looking at only one analyze. maybe you don't agree ? i'd like to have your opinion.
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07-02-2006, 12:06 AM
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yeah even though i was a 21.6% spell haste I still ended up casting a whole lot more spells, one thing to factor in is mine and her power pool size (i had a wardens + wis and + power buff so i was almost at 8k, while she was around 6300) i also have more flowing thought, so I'll talk to her and see if she was chaining spells or if she was using vital conversion more to conserve power. We have a labs raid today, and the troubador wont be joining us, so it will be a good way to show what a difference a troubador + coercer + illusionist makes on buffing my dps output
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07-02-2006, 12:09 PM
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There might also be a lot of fights where you aren't in range of the mob to get everyones complete damage.*shrug*If I could get a Troub, Ammends, Coercer deagro, and Synergism... Then throw in an inquis for their proc... *drools* God I wish. I was doing 1300 dps single target the other night in HoS with only an Inquis in my group
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07-02-2006, 12:22 PM
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Lab's raid results..... Had a Troubador(5.2% allegro[spell haste], + 7.5% crit) + amends + harmonious link (coercer 23% de-agro)+ illusionist proc synergism (only for half raid then he switched to his necro) MT had coercer for hate gain. mele dps group had a bruiser + monk + conj for fireseed, and the two rangers Here's the zone wide parse: Allies: (01:03:04) 32174433 | 8501.58 [HH Illu-Fusion-27689] Illu 456 | 5060771 | 1339.00 (me) Allestair 460 | 2988295 | 793.17 (conj) Obeni 980 | 2833973 | 750.42 (warlock) Kyrika 291 | 2625903 | 696.80 (wizard2) Numb 578 | 2612681 | 693.11 (ranger) Elifa 704 | 1828327 | 484.26 (swash) Naldir 4902 | 1805353 | 477.16 (MT) Moncreathe 316 | 1792807 | 476.36 (ranger2) Marasmus 841 | 1439253 | 381.21 (bruser) Vinh 430 | 1386085 | 421.30 (monk) Willowshade 70 | 1324997 | 496.63 (warlock 2) Hakanese 668 | 1283839 | 339.41 (paly) Mangus 264 | 833440 | 221.28 (guardian) Raidi 3 | 676002 | 214.33 (coercer) Bansmo 170 | 671687 | 462.43 (illusionists alt necro) Keith 341 | 643208 | 304.12 (zerker) Ingold 184 | 566649 | 247.88 (the illusionist) Jaxjet 62 | 397065 | 106.27 (troub) Maridith 44 | 291369 | 77.01 (defiler) Danidella 109 | 247912 | 65.92 Spongecake 64 | 224163 | 71.16 Kennae 157 | 217275 | 57.52 Abilify 5 | 130889 | 150.88 Runt 36 | 119398 | 31.80 Twiggie 12 | 118057 | 31.39 Tundrra 4 | 39222 | 10.50 Ellyn 3 | 9025 | 2.39 Myrica 0 | 6788 | 7.97 and these are just for bragging rights. I think i adjusted to the extra haste of allegro and was able to maximize my spell chain which was giving me more dps even though i had less haste from this troubador. Allies: (00:53) 674460 | 12725.66 [HH Illu-Fusion-20749] Illu 2 | 95071 | 2501.87 Allestair 1 | 65807 | 1530.40 Obeni 19 | 55635 | 1545.42 Kyrika 5 | 55414 | 1497.68 Numb 12 | 52778 | 1353.28 Willowshade 0 | 52428 | 1139.74 Moncreathe 5 | 38301 | 1063.92 Elifa 10 | 37484 | 892.48 Marasmus 28 | 32929 | 731.76 Vinh 6 | 32599 | 814.98 Naldir 119 | 32515 | 677.40 Hakanese 15 | 31211 | 693.58 Keith 17 | 26787 | 723.97 Ingold 3 | 19991 | 487.59 Mangus 3 | 13273 | 323.73 Raidi 0 | 13070 | 303.95 Jaxjet 1 | 5370 | 145.14 Maridith 0 | 4236 | 94.13 Twiggie 0 | 2471 | 70.60 Spongecake 2 | 2277 | 65.06 Runt 1 | 1942 | 74.69 Danidella 0 | 375 | 15.00 Tundrra 0 | 0 | 0.00 Allies: (01:16) 858065 | 11290.33 [HH Illu-Fusion-22008] Illu 15 | 161794 | 2568.16 Allestair 7 | 121757 | 1623.43 Kyrika 7 | 66710 | 1111.83 Numb 14 | 60418 | 901.76 Willowshade 8 | 58101 | 854.43 Obeni 21 | 49141 | 2340.05 Naldir 154 | 48485 | 655.20 Marasmus 24 | 43033 | 606.10 Elifa 18 | 41063 | 622.17 Moncreathe 5 | 31214 | 843.62 Hakanese 12 | 30829 | 416.61 Ingold 3 | 26943 | 472.68 Keith 12 | 24104 | 354.47 Raidi 0 | 23478 | 335.40 Mangus 3 | 16397 | 244.73 Jaxjet 5 | 13618 | 219.65 Vinh 3 | 10598 | 662.38 Danidella 0 | 6807 | 117.36 Kennae 2 | 4533 | 75.55 Runt 3 | 3862 | 63.31 Twiggie 1 | 2916 | 41.66 Spongecake 0 | 2899 | 87.85 Maridith 1 | 2350 | 34.06 Allies: (00:37) 313678 | 8477.78 [HH Illu-Fusion-17269] Illu 1 | 61630 | 2201.07 Numb 10 | 37655 | 1448.27 Allestair 5 | 33643 | 1121.43 Vinh 3 | 24190 | 967.60 Elifa 10 | 22934 | 849.41 Naldir 28 | 18052 | 515.77 Marasmus 5 | 16866 | 581.59 Obeni 1 | 15647 | 977.94 Mangus 3 | 14328 | 597.00 Raidi 0 | 13188 | 454.76 Hakanese 3 | 13019 | 394.52 Kyrika 0 | 12698 | 793.63 Keith 4 | 9768 | 375.69 Willowshade 0 | 9557 | 308.29 Danidella 9 | 4789 | 217.68 Maridith 0 | 3380 | 102.42 Twiggie 0 | 1603 | 50.09 Runt 0 | 112 | 28.00 Tundrra 0 | 0 | 0.00 Here's a graph of my dmg for the zone sorted by dmg just for you allies:  And here is the one of the other wizard, I was trying to give out some more spell casting tips, getting her to cast sooner and chain cast, she ended up pulling agro on one of the fights with about 1500 or so dps, so the potential is there to be clsoe to my dps but she holds back for fear of pulling agro.  Here's that parse I was talking about where it showed she has the potential to do more dps again remember she died at about the 49-50s mark, when she pulled agro she was from my calculations in the 1700 dps range. she did not have amends to protect her, but she did have the troub and coercer de-agro. Allies: (00:55) 669314 | 12169.35 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-14119] Illu 4 | 82883 | 1927.51 Kyrika 0 | 61996 | 1409.00 Numb 11 | 60496 | 1440.38 Allestair 6 | 60350 | 1207.00 Obeni 25 | 57973 | 1183.12 Willowshade 15 | 56925 | 1265.00 Elifa 13 | 34885 | 775.22 Moncreathe 4 | 33802 | 889.53 Vinh 9 | 29296 | 714.54 Keith 13 | 27755 | 645.47 Naldir 75 | 26356 | 497.28 Hakanese 12 | 26250 | 495.28 Marasmus 8 | 25878 | 550.60 Maridith 0 | 19109 | 382.18 Ingold 3 | 18329 | 416.57 Raidi 0 | 13125 | 328.13 Mangus 4 | 11019 | 275.48 Kennae 6 | 4596 | 86.72 Spongecake 2 | 4189 | 99.74 Danidella 0 | 3507 | 97.42 Twiggie 0 | 2747 | 68.68 Runt 0 | 2637 | 94.18 Tundrra 0 | 2529 | 126.45 Ellyn 0 | 0 | 0.00 Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 07-02-2006 01:31 AM
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IN Lyceum, use of AE is mandatory to increase DPS. That was one of the big differences in casting between you both.In Labs it is more difficult, because of ae mobs. If you must move a lot, it is not worth. GW still good of course !I studied labs much more than lyceum, because we go almost each week. Then I can analyze a lot, and see what's best casting. Right now I'm waiting for catalyst, will test it for one month !After that maybe I'll test agility line, if I'm not too lazy.
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Also worth noting is that Frost Spikes for you Illu accounts for 7-8% of your overall DPS in some of your parses, and your raid buddy there comes up at 1%. It's an inflation IMO when comparing to other non-wizard classes as their damage shields aren't calculated that way.
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personally, i'd rather have it the old way and have the hate go to the tank. Or keep it this way but still assign the hate to the tank. we lost out quite a bit on hate maintence with the agro change to it.
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I picked Agi/Wis straight off, but recently switched over to Str/Wis to test it out. Overall I found Str/Wis reduced my dps so I'm switching back. I do take agi as far as the 12% reduction to recast timers. I'm definately competitive with the summoners although after 2 weeks away I haven't had chance to test since LU24 really. Ok respecced back to my original build - agi 4/4/4/5/1 wis 4/8/4/8. I have a question for you ACT users, how do you combine to create a total parse for the raid? Thanks
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On the Main tab, look at the buttom left hand corner there's a box called "Show Checkboxes (Batch Merge/Delete), tick that and you'll be able to tick off the various encounters you'd want to merge, then at the buttom again you should an option called "Merge Checked".In regards to Achievements, I might if it eventually turns out to be truly worth it through countless other parses from other players and my own findings to respec away from 4 4 8 in STA (10% mitigation), and 4 8 4 8 8 in WIS and instead go 4, 4, 4, 8 in AGI and 4, 5, 4, 8, 8 in WIS, I quite like the power consumption reduction. It was a noticble difference when I got it, and as it stands now I just don't have enough power regeneration/power pool with only 7k power and FT whatever when I also need resists and what not. If I wasn't on a PvP server I'd think the choices is pretty obvious, either STR for crit % + WIS or AGI for faster cast + WIS.
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THanks for the reply Dracon
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I got her Fusion M1, so that prolly helps with the HH  But not sure what she has on the other's, and her DPS is going up with every raid with Illu's help - she even pulled aggro a couple of times on the Labs run on Saturday. We may need to get her own Aemends soon =D Still tho, she has always been more conservative than Illu and subsequently has much fewer raid deaths Message Edited by Sokolov on 07-04-2006 08:16 AM
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Hey Illu, I know you touched on it before, but I would love to know what your typical casting chain is. As I think that will be the single most important factor in improving my DPS rating. (Scenario: Lab Raid (AE mobs or single target nameds), wis/agi line, not counting on any other class in my group.) Thanks, appreciate your input in this disscusion thread.
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soon as tank positions the mobs line myself up to hit 3 or 2 targets with fusion. Then Frigid gift, glacial winds, free hand sorc, fusion, reding icicles, surging tempest (on off tank mob) forge of ro, (our heat proc surge of flames or something like that) firey inferno, ice nova, ball of lava, (here I do a check on mob hp, if 2 groups and if he's got about 30% health I'll re-cast glacial winds if 3 groups i'll continue to use aoes when ever they refresh swapping between single targets and aoes when needed), then firey inferno again, usually main target is dead, and cast rending icicles on 2nd mob. Always remember even if there are 2 mobs up glacial winds will do more dmg on average than one ball of lava to 2 targets. Also dont be afraid to stand in aoe range on labs trash(so you can make use of firey inferno), work on getting some +sta gear (i can self buff to 4800 hp without potions) Focus on using firey inferno more than sunstrike as it does about double the dmg for the same cast time. I try to rotate ball of lava and firey inferno so the refresh timers are about half way when I get done casting one or the other. that will always leave time to cast stuff in between. for singles that let me get a full rotation off its usually like this rending icicles, frostsheild, protoferno, surging tempest, forge of ro, (by this time mob is usually full debuffed by raid) freehand fusion, ice nova, surge of flames, ball of lava, incapacitate, firey inferno, irradiate, then fill in the gaps as other spells refresh, sometimes I have to cast firey convultions (does more dmg than sunstrike on average) when I dont have a recast timer ready, and occasionally i'll have to use ice flame depending on how much spell haste i've got from the troub. for singles ball of lava takes priority, always time spell chains to use that as soon as it refreshes, next is incapacitate (if you can get 2 off in a fight), then firey inferno is 3rd on priority, then irradiate. Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 07-05-2006 07:39 AM
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nice line, just pay attention to one very important thing : as IT says, if you are close to mob (fusion and fire AE) you MUST be able to resits a bit to their fire AE.Healers cannot spend too much time/power to heal you
Message Edited by ailees on 07-05-2006 08:03 AM
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Shamans for the win!
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