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Unread 11-09-2005, 11:39 PM   #1
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hey, I just read we can use our ranged slot after LU16.  Does anyone have a suggestion for

the best use of this slot for us wizzies?

>Crusaders, Mages, and Priests can now equip symbols in their ranged slot!

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Unread 11-09-2005, 11:47 PM   #2
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I jumped the gun. This can all be found in the update notes details. You can equip symbols such as hex dolls and stuff. Woot!Specifically tailored items for ranged slots also coming soon.

Also checkout intentory changes charm slots, food slots, etc.

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Unread 11-09-2005, 11:49 PM   #3
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great change. not sure what im going to use in it though. probably tartons wheel. not worth the cost of a rare for a hex doll or orb. theres also a 20int secondary item that drops from the grpx2 part of silent city that would sit there nicely SMILEY
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Unread 11-10-2005, 12:17 AM   #4
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My favorite part of LU16 !

Glad I didn't get rid of my Stein.

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Unread 11-10-2005, 12:22 AM   #5
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tartons wheel until i can have a jewler make the pearl orb.  14 int 84 power x 2 is nice.
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Unread 11-10-2005, 02:01 AM   #6
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Long over due. Every tank in the game gets spells, massively upsetting class balance. Oh wait, they gave this to some tanks, too.Well, at least I have my roots... Oh wait, those got cut 50%Well, I can stun when that breaks... oh wait, that got NINJA NERFED.well, I still have my dps... oh wait, most of my big nukes got nerfed in one form or another...there's always AoE! oh wait, I was nerfed in the CU in that and everyone out dmgs me in AoE...So... uh... why should I pay for this?Think about it, SOE. Think REAL hard.
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Unread 11-10-2005, 04:06 AM   #7
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Long over due. Every tank in the game gets spells, massively upsetting class balance. Oh wait, they gave this to some tanks, too.

Well, at least I have my roots... Oh wait, those got cut 50%

Well, I can stun when that breaks... oh wait, that got NINJA NERFED.

well, I still have my dps... oh wait, most of my big nukes got nerfed in one form or another...

there's always AoE! oh wait, I was nerfed in the CU in that and everyone out dmgs me in AoE...




So... uh... why should I pay for this?


Think about it, SOE. Think REAL hard.


having a bad day?  all of your posts today have been counter productive....
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Unread 11-10-2005, 04:17 AM   #8
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Aye, I'm rather happy about this change, espically sence it was unlikely we were going to get it a while ago.  Crusaders were in need of this change sence everyone in thier archtype (fighter) could use something in that spot for stats but them, which left them a bit behind.  For us they simply could have given us good mage only gear, but I'm happy that I will have gotten rid of that anoying empty spot SMILEY
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Unless I have a very personel bug you can't equip stein or Tartons in ranged slot.  I ended up buying a pearl orb for the job, could have done with one anyway for the resists, but kind of miffed i couldn't use other two.
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Unread 11-10-2005, 10:35 AM   #10
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having a bad day?  all of your posts today have been counter productive.... I laid out the options we have and how this and recent nerfs have hit those very hard.  We're supposed to be a Tier 1 dps class and yet our AoE is third rate.  Not even SECOND rate.  And now a plethora of nerfs instead of addressing needed shortcomings.  This only makes the class worse. I state it the way it is.  If my unhappiness with a crappy nerfday present shows thru, well, that's what they get for not thinking things thru and making poor decisions.  Why am I so angry?  SOE continually (and not just with EQ2) nerfs classes needing a boost in some area and pumps up classes that don't need any boosts (and in many cases probably need some nerfing). Enough is enough.
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**REMOVED INAPPROPRIATE POST**

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Unread 11-10-2005, 04:24 PM   #12
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Not sure what is biting you, Curt. My Ring of Ice has a duration of 36 secs. If this is the result of a 50% nerf it would have had 72 sec duration; can't remember having that. With the new range slot use we got an increase of 1% dmg and 50-75 mana for free. If you compare your damage against groups against that of warlocks you do the same as the poor warlocks who stare at our big numbers in dd. not sure why I am writing this; it won't help.
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Fingle wrote:Unless I have a very personel bug you can't equip stein or Tartons in ranged slot.  I ended up buying a pearl orb for the job, could have done with one anyway for the resists, but kind of miffed i couldn't use other two.
well the update notes say you can use steins and symbols... must be bug.
*** Ranged Slot Equipment *** - Crusaders, Mages, and Priests can now equip most symbols (censers, dolls, idols, orbs, steins, symbols, tablets, and tomes) in their ranged slot in addition to their secondary slot. - These symbols will not provide a ranged attack, but they will give their indicated stat benefits to the wearer. - In the future, new types of items will be created for these classes that will be ranged-slot only.
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Unread 11-10-2005, 06:20 PM   #14
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adamflanagan wrote:

Fingle wrote:Unless I have a very personel bug you can't equip stein or Tartons in ranged slot.  I ended up buying a pearl orb for the job, could have done with one anyway for the resists, but kind of miffed i couldn't use other two.
well the update notes say you can use steins and symbols... must be bug.
*** Ranged Slot Equipment *** - Crusaders, Mages, and Priests can now equip most symbols (censers, dolls, idols, orbs, steins, symbols, tablets, and tomes) in their ranged slot in addition to their secondary slot. - These symbols will not provide a ranged attack, but they will give their indicated stat benefits to the wearer. - In the future, new types of items will be created for these classes that will be ranged-slot only.

Yeah thats what I thought at first then I re-read the patch notes.  The word most above may mean this is intentional.
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Antaios wrote:
Not sure what is biting you, Curt. My Ring of Ice has a duration of 36 secs. If this is the result of a 50% nerf it would have had 72 sec duration; can't remember having that.

With the new range slot use we got an increase of 1% dmg and 50-75 mana for free.

If you compare your damage against groups against that of warlocks you do the same as the poor warlocks who stare at our big numbers in dd.

not sure why I am writing this; it won't help.



it was nerfed by 40%, from 1 minute to 36 sec
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Grimdayl wrote:

hey, I just read we can use our ranged slot after LU16.  Does anyone have a suggestion for

the best use of this slot for us wizzies?

>Crusaders, Mages, and Priests can now equip symbols in their ranged slot!




Sporting a pearl orb here, 14 INT 84 power and +60 to 10 different resistances.

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Unread 11-11-2005, 02:05 AM   #17
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curtlewis wrote:Long over due. Every tank in the game gets spells, massively upsetting class balance. Oh wait, they gave this to some tanks, too.Tank spells do NOT upset class balance, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are you talking about. Well, at least I have my roots... Oh wait, those got cut 50% Only the AE root was cut down, and by less than 40%.  I can still solo full groups of mobs with it no problem.  At least we can recast it before it wears off.Well, I can stun when that breaks... oh wait, that got NINJA NERFED. Oh lord, shut the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] up.  Everyone knows that was a screwup that is getting fixed.well, I still have my dps... oh wait, most of my big nukes got nerfed in one form or another... Name one way your 'big nukes' got nerfed.there's always AoE! oh wait, I was nerfed in the CU in that and everyone out dmgs me in AoE...We were not 'nerfed' on our AEs by the combat update.  Our AEs do SIGNIFICANTLY more damage post CU then they did before.  I mean WAY more!  Just because a couple other classes got better AEs, that does not constitute ours being called a nerf.  I hate it when people call the class gains of others nerfs to their own class.  That's not what a nerf if, genius!So... uh... why should I pay for this?You shouldn't.  Go away.Think about it, SOE. Think REAL hard.
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Unread 11-11-2005, 03:35 AM   #18
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curtlewis wrote:Long over due. Every tank in the game gets spells, massively upsetting class balance. Oh wait, they gave this to some tanks, too.Tank spells do NOT upset class balance, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are you talking about. Well, at least I have my roots... Oh wait, those got cut 50% Only the AE root was cut down, and by less than 40%.  I can still solo full groups of mobs with it no problem.  At least we can recast it before it wears off.Well, I can stun when that breaks... oh wait, that got NINJA NERFED. Oh lord, shut the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] up.  Everyone knows that was a screwup that is getting fixed.well, I still have my dps... oh wait, most of my big nukes got nerfed in one form or another... Name one way your 'big nukes' got nerfed.there's always AoE! oh wait, I was nerfed in the CU in that and everyone out dmgs me in AoE...We were not 'nerfed' on our AEs by the combat update.  Our AEs do SIGNIFICANTLY more damage post CU then they did before.  I mean WAY more!  Just because a couple other classes got better AEs, that does not constitute ours being called a nerf.  I hate it when people call the class gains of others nerfs to their own class.  That's not what a nerf if, genius!So... uh... why should I pay for this?You shouldn't.  Go away.Think about it, SOE. Think REAL hard.

well said
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Unread 11-11-2005, 02:44 PM   #19
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To be honest I havent got an issue with the wiz class.  I know our roots have been nerfed a bit but I can live with that now that more importantly we have a use for our ranged slots.   As for the AoE's, we are not an AoE specialist class thats for the warlocks to enjoy!  I also like it now that we can drink potions directly from our inventory, this saves alot of equiping and de-equiping.  Still a little bit miffed that still have to unquip one of my hex dolls to equip my horse each time I need to mount it!! but cant have everything.
Check out the cobalt made symbols (for lvl 50+) nice stats (sorry havent got name and particulars, only saw it last nite when a guildy linked it whilst i was grouped)
 
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brow27 wrote:

curtlewis wrote:Long over due. Every tank in the game gets spells, massively upsetting class balance. Oh wait, they gave this to some tanks, too.Tank spells do NOT upset class balance, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are you talking about. Well, at least I have my roots... Oh wait, those got cut 50% Only the AE root was cut down, and by less than 40%.  I can still solo full groups of mobs with it no problem.  At least we can recast it before it wears off.Well, I can stun when that breaks... oh wait, that got NINJA NERFED. Oh lord, shut the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] up.  Everyone knows that was a screwup that is getting fixed.well, I still have my dps... oh wait, most of my big nukes got nerfed in one form or another... Name one way your 'big nukes' got nerfed.there's always AoE! oh wait, I was nerfed in the CU in that and everyone out dmgs me in AoE...We were not 'nerfed' on our AEs by the combat update.  Our AEs do SIGNIFICANTLY more damage post CU then they did before.  I mean WAY more!  Just because a couple other classes got better AEs, that does not constitute ours being called a nerf.  I hate it when people call the class gains of others nerfs to their own class.  That's not what a nerf if, genius!So... uh... why should I pay for this?You shouldn't.  Go away.Think about it, SOE. Think REAL hard.

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nailhead wrote:
To be honest I havent got an issue with the wiz class. I know our roots have been nerfed a bit but I can live with that now that more importantly we have a use for our ranged slots. As for the AoE's, we are not an AoE specialist class thats for the warlocks to enjoy! I also like it now that we can drink potions directly from our inventory, this saves alot of equiping and de-equiping. Still a little bit miffed that still have to unquip one of my hex dolls to equip my horse each time I need to mount it!! but cant have everything.
Check out the cobalt made symbols (for lvl 50+) nice stats (sorry havent got name and particulars, only saw it last nite when a guildy linked it whilst i was grouped)
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You can also set this up in your hotbar.  I setup a hotbar so I can quickly swap between Journey Boots and my high-int boots, use my whistle, int potions, and cast flash of intelligence and hex spells from the hotbar.  Also setup some macros for self-invis and mana-buffing.

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