Not alot of time to play so should I stop my wiz?

[Thuagb]

Hi all from what Ive been reading lately , would you suggest I put my wiz on hold ?? I dont really get alot of time to play so am I lvling a useless character?? I am a 25 wiz atm and I dont find things that bad right now but it seems its all down hill from here, I have a 25 sk that I will probly start playing again til I hear some positive things about wizards , because with the little time I have to play Id like to be blowing things up rather than recharging group members , (I know I dont have the recharge spell yet but ...)

Love to hear from everyone

Cheers

 

PS up til now I love playing my wiz but I only have time to have 1 real main character and if wiz at lvl 50 is as bad as Im hearing ill stop lvling him now

Thx in advance

[Ancient-O]

One thing to remember before giving up. I would venture to guess that an extreme minority of the people that play the game actually ever post to the boards. Secondly, know that it's the people that have whining to do that speak the loudest. Those that are happy with their characters will generally not have much to say, because they're too busy enjoying the game and don't want to deal with the boards.

I'm not saying there aren't problems for Wizards later in levels, because I don't know. I'm just saying that you should take ANYTHING you read with a bag of salt, becase it's those that just want something to complain about that have the most to say, generally speaking. I know there are other wizardson the boards that are happy, so hopefully you'll hear from them as well as the doomsayers.

I think the end question you have to ask yourself is... "Am I having fun?" If you are, then keep going! Level caps will go up, new content will be added, and you always have more character slots if you ever feel the need for something different.

 

 

[notyou]

I'd have to agree with the previous poster. It's all about whether you are having fun.

Also, I very much doubt SOE intends to keep wizards useless in raids for the entirety of EQII's lifespan. Fixes will come eventually.

[Tabemo]

I agree with them up there.  If you like playing your wizard, keep playing the wizard.  I stuck to it, and I'm still happy with my wizard.

[didi316]

i'm quite happy with my lvl40 wizard too - sure, i've a group I always play with and they're happy with me and my damage i'm a bit fearing the endgame (raiding) as it's not that funny being a mana feeder for healers/tanks as you read the forums you see that not that many people complain about playing a wizzy apart of the raiding thing and those who do so would still be whining even if they would make 1000000 of dps at lvl10 too

[adamflanagan]

if you enjoy playing your wizard stick with it. as people have already said a lot of people only use the forums to complain. if you read any class forum (apart from maybe warlock) you will find people complaining and saying their class broken. the problems that do face wizards are only really in raiding, so unless you plan to grind to 50 in the next few weeks and raid all the time i would stick with your wizard.

[Thuagb]

OK thanks guys that sounds a little more positive than most other posts and I am very happy with my wizzy right now Ill keep at it and by the time Im lvl 50 the lvl cap will probly be 60 by then anyways =)

Good to hear some other ppl have as much fun as I do playing there wizzy

Cheers all

[BarryT]

I see the one star bandit is out again!

As for if you should continue your wizard, if you like playing as a wizard, keep doing so.

I did take a short break from my 45 wizard to level a templar to 46. But recently I have gone back to my wizard as i missed the whole root and nuke thing lol.

[TooFarGo]

48 Wiz, still having fun.  Yes, raiding can be boring... I"m always Mr. Mana.  But hey, maybe that will be fixed.  Many raids have add's that can be fought as well... Sure, warlocks do more damage.  We may end up doing more damage ourselves when the revamps come.  Also, grouping with lower level guild members is still a blast, I'm happy they implemented mentoring.  If you're having fun, keep having it. =)

[Thuagb]

I doesnt bother me a bit that warlocks do more damage the only issue I had was .... well I guess your not useless if you are keeping the tank and clerics charged but I always thought that would be more of a chanters job thats all, I would probly very rarely raid anyways .... well until the kids are a little older anyways hehe, so if it is only raid issues with the wizzy I'm definately sticking with him

Thanks again for replies guys

Cheers all

[Sac_jok]

IMO, stick with your Wizard. They aren't as bad as the 'crybabies' on here say. There are a few level headed Wizzys on here that will defend the fact that Wizards aren't as broken as some might think. Every class has broken spells (yes including Warlocks), but every person playing those classes have learned to deal with it and work around it until the "fixes" are in place.

Not to mention I have a guildie at a 33 Shadowknight, and he hates it. He thinks SK's get no love at higher levels and I would almost have to agree since every group I have played with I have had only one SK in my group and he didn't do so well with holding the aggro from myself and a wizzy.

Wizzy's are great bro, stick with it....plus they get Depart (j/K) :smileyvery-happy:

[Alfgand]

Your answer lies in the statement you made that you, "love playing your Wizard".

 

Thats your answer. Keep playing it. Wizards are not a useless and totally broken class. There are many voices on this this board and as others have said only a minority post here.

 

Wizards seem to have serious problems at the level 50 raiding level. But I am sure that will be fixed. It just may take some time.

 

The Warlock vs Wizard issue is real one that alot of us feel really passionate about. But most are passionate about it because, like you we love our Wizards and want them fixed.

 

I have seen too many comments about "cry babies" here. That is quite unfortunate and is not going to help the class. Yes, there are some posters that fall into this catagory, they say they are going to re-roll if this or that is not fixed now or make other extreme statements.

 

However, the majority of posters who are concerned about the DPS imbalance and 50 level raiding issues are NOT CRY BABIES.

 

That is a complete flippant, misscharacterization of those who feel strongly about their class and only want to improve the class they love to where it should be. Anyone who has read this forum and the Warlock forum well, knows these are real issues that need fixing.

 

So what should the person who plays a Wizard, feels strongly about these issues do. Well they should come to this forum and present cogent and concise agruments on what is wrong and how they think the issues should be fixed.

 

Those who think are no issues Wizards are either blind or living in their own little fantasy world and are not helping out their class.

 

Those who are in panic mode, screeching out demands and threats are concerned and passionate about their class but are actually doing more diservice to their class than the fantasy world people I mentioned above.

 

Yeah, as long as you enjoy playing your Wizard, keep doing so !

 

 

 

 

Message Edited by Alfgand on 06-10-2005 08:23 AM

Message Edited by Alfgand on 06-10-2005 08:24 AM

Message Edited by Alfgand on 06-10-2005 08:25 AM

[Sac_jok]

Great post Alfgand, see there are people who have good sense on here. Several others have posted here as well and they all make excellent points. Limited time is not a reason to stop playing a class you "love". Not liking the class anymore is a reason to stop.

I'm sure (or I hope rather) by the time you hit Lv50 the resist issure with Raid Mobs will be fixed so that at Lv50 Wizards feel a bit more needed in raids it is unfair that SOE can make statements like we (wizards and warlocks) should be equivalent, but at the "end game" they take away the equivalancy...How dumb can some people be?

IMO, take the words of the Lv45+ Wizards with a bit more seriousness, they are the one's that knows the "Real" problems of your class. From what you yourself can read in many other threads there are some people (from ALL classes) that don't care about balance or fixing real issues, they just want to be the BEST no matter what the cost.

[Yngwiem]

Keep playing the Wizzy!!!

I almost quit EQ2... then I made a Wizard... now I love EQ2.

For those people who have concerns about Warlocks being more powerful than Wizards.... make a Warlock then!!

 

[3C HAVOK]

I also say keep playing your wizzy,  If you look at my posts im a noob, But i have been playing since january i just dont make it to the boards to post to often. As a casual player a wiz is just right. I have rolled a bard Got him up to level 22 dirge but was super bored with it, I rolled a Guardian and woot i get to spam taunts,  again snooze fest.  I love my wiz and how i can change the outcome of a fight depending on the situation.       Here is an example that happened the other night. I was with a mixed group in Cazic thule. We were doing good then Bam! adds from hell. The tank did a great job grabbing them but there were a lot of them, We had in the group 2 wizs 1 guardian 2 healers and scout. As the fight went on me and the other wiz were nuking away then one of the healers went oop the second healer was just about oop. and the  the tank was not that far behind .  I called out to  the other wiz that was with us to Burn the mob and i went into mana feed mode. I then started to feed mana to the higher of the healers and the tank. We managed to get out of the fight and win everyones heart was pounding and it was a great fight. Its cool being able to shift gears like that and save the group or to Burn a mob down or evac a group out of trouble.  That is the joy of our class.    My Wizzy is not "BROKE" Yes i would like top have somethings fixed like the mana cost for our nukes is a bit harsh and some spells dont work all that well. But i dont consider my class "BROKE" we just take a bit more thought to play and i think some people are just not getting that.  

[Tabemo]

Yes, I don't consider our class broken.  If they fix the mobs so that they aren't completely immune to cold, I'd be happy.

[Tar~Palantir]

Let me put this as best as i can.  Wizards are second best in DPS. You're still better than my paladin will ever be ::snickers::, but the problem is the HUGE differencce there is between warlocks(#1 in dmg) and wizards. A warlock with his lvl 23 nuke could and will do twice the dmg of the wizard nuke...why?  Most mobs seem to have an innate resistance to fire/ice.  That makes our nuk even WEAKER than base dmg.  You will have to use every debuff you know to get the mob down to where your nuke will do base dmg.  A warlock however, is at a huge advantage since most mobs have no resistance vs disease or a small enough amt where it can be brought down to zero.

[adamflanagan]

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Tar~Palantir wrote:Let me put this as best as i can.  Wizards are second best in DPS. You're still better than my paladin will ever be ::snickers::, but the problem is the HUGE differencce there is between warlocks(#1 in dmg) and wizards. A warlock with his lvl 23 nuke could and will do twice the dmg of the wizard nuke...why?  Most mobs seem to have an innate resistance to fire/ice.  That makes our nuk even WEAKER than base dmg.  You will have to use every debuff you know to get the mob down to where your nuke will do base dmg.  A warlock however, is at a huge advantage since most mobs have no resistance vs disease or a small enough amt where it can be brought down to zero.

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most mobs do not have an innate resistance to fire/ice. only raid mobs do.

[Tar~Palantir]

Then why else did my ball of fire do 250 dmg at lvl 25(way back when) when the spell was SUPPOSED to do, with adept I, 320-525.

[Fleaba]

BAH!! Who wouldn't want to be a wizard? Have a friend who is lvl 50 wizard that solos Iceburg and clears out the MM by himself. Just uses his roots and some uber gear. Of course he dies when they resist too many of his roots.....but none the less. Why wouldn't you want to play such a class that can out solo anything out there??

[Sac_jok]

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Tar~Palantir wrote:
Then why else did my ball of fire do 250 dmg at lvl 25(way back when) when the spell was SUPPOSED to do, with adept I, 320-525.

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Same reason at those levels my Dark Distortion Ad3 might hit below the damage it is SUPPOSED to do...Mitigation from the mob. As we all have noticed EVERY spell we cast does NOT hit for the damage it is SUPPOSED to do all the time, sometimes the damage is way under the spell description.

[Lady Uaelr]

Wizard does need some help in all the above mentioned areas.

 

Especially Raid Resistance to HEAT/COLD.

 

Just make sure you get your mana feeds at adept 3 and master if possible.

 

When you are the only wizard and you have healers chain casting in a raid it is your job to make sure they are taken care of. This goes for the MT and MA - the last thing you want is for one of your tanks to lose power and the ability to taunt and to you and other casters means sudden death and possibly a big mess.

 

So even though I wish my spells would make a big difference on the main encounter I do not regret the ability to mana transfer. This ability can make a raid go much smoother and can actually even save the day.

 

I do wish I had a spell to at least debuff more effectively but oh well.

 

Don't give up on the wizard. In an exp group that does not have an enchanter or a warlock you can really shine in dps and crowd control as well.

 

If you are enjoying it then stick with it and wait for the big changes-- I have some faith that someone, somewhere is aware of the issues with this class.

 

Have Fun and Good Luck.

 

[Feln]

I think the wizard class has a ton of potential, that we have not even seen yet.  Remember that the level cap is going to be around 200.  The game is only 7 months old.  I think all wizards will truly be satisfied once the ports become active again.  I would gladly give up some dps to be able to travel effortlessly around this world, that once fully discovered will be truly massive.  In EQ1 I soloed my wizard in the upper levels, with great luck and in my limited time.  The wizard is a great class and I think in the long wrong you will be extremely happy (and this is coming from a warlock).