Immunity to Fear broken???

slubins · 09-19-2006, 07:47 AM

I was in Lyceum tonight and got feared at the first named. I have the AA line all filled out including the 8 that goes into immunity to fear. Any ideas or suggestions? Any one else getting feared there or anywhere else?

I would think immunity is just that...immunity.

Monfar · 09-19-2006, 03:56 PM

I have had it too a while ago , for no reason it just ignored fearless. Never happened again.

Rarlin · 09-19-2006, 04:18 PM

I had this AA line for a while but was feared all the time so I respeced...

Boethius_Permafrost · 09-19-2006, 07:05 PM

I've been charmed there, but not feared.

slubins · 09-19-2006, 08:25 PM

Could it have been charm then? I know that one of the raiders took a potion that provides a limited immunity to fear and they were able to avoid being "feared". I have been charmed before and usually attack fellow raid mates. In this encounter you just walk around unable to control your movements.

FlintAH · 09-19-2006, 11:21 PM

slubins wrote:
I was in Lyceum tonight and got feared at the first named. I have the AA line all filled out including the 8 that goes into immunity to fear. Any ideas or suggestions? Any one else getting feared there or anywhere else?

I would think immunity is just that...immunity.

Did you cast the buff?

falconx3 · 09-20-2006, 06:29 PM

I was there last night had wasnt gettin feared.

shadowsmage · 09-20-2006, 06:57 PM

it has never failed for me, and ive had it 3 weeks after KOS launch.

me thinks someone forgot to cast.

Crib92 · 09-20-2006, 07:05 PM

shadowsmage wrote:

it has never failed for me, and ive had it 3 weeks after KOS launch.

me thinks someone forgot to cast.

Ding ding ding....we have a winner

Monfar · 09-20-2006, 07:22 PM

shadowsmage wrote:
it has never failed for me, and ive had it 3 weeks after KOS launch.

me thinks someone forgot to cast.
Was not the case for me , it was up but still got feared 2 times , I think it was maybe 2 months ago.And it was not a charm.Maybe the OP did forget to cast it but I know for me it bugged so could very well have been the same for Slubins.This is eq2 don't forget

Crib92 · 09-20-2006, 08:07 PM

Some mobs debuff. You could have died and forgot to recast. Unless someone can post a screenie of being feared while the buff is up then it will be difficult to get Dev's attention. I had this buff for two months and was never feared. (Before respec to something useful)

FlintAH · 09-20-2006, 11:05 PM

Crib92 wrote:
Some mobs debuff. You could have died and forgot to recast. Unless someone can post a screenie of being feared while the buff is up then it will be difficult to get Dev's attention. I had this buff for two months and was never feared. (Before respec to something useful)

I noticed this yesterday in Lyceum. When I went in the room to pull like I normally do I got feared even though the buff was up. I had the immune thing flash over my head, but it put the screaming guy in my buff window and I started walking slowly in a different direction.

Crib92 · 09-20-2006, 11:24 PM

Was there any type of message indicating that it you were feared? Something in the log that could be used as evidence?

FlintAH · 09-21-2006, 02:30 AM

I doubt it since it was saying immune over my head. I dont care enough to dig back through my logs.

slubins · 09-21-2006, 07:45 AM

Great responses...although it is possible that I had forgot to cast it (nothing like doubting yourself), I could have sworn that I had it on. To eliminate that possibility I will hit Lyceum again on Monday and make sure that it is indeed up. I will do screenshots/logs if indeed it is not working.

I hope I forgot to cast, that would be the most easily fixed solution :smileywink:

Message Edited by slubins on 09-20-2006 11:46 PM

Monfar · 09-21-2006, 06:58 PM

slubins wrote:
(nothing like doubting yourself)

Message Edited by slubins on 09-20-200611:46 PM

You probably had it up , you are not the first one to experience this. Good thing is that since the instance was opened it has only happened one time to me and zero for others so chance it will happen again is slim.

tiger911 · 09-22-2006, 04:13 PM

Just wanted to put my 2 cents in here, but were you by any chance mentoring before you went to raid? And if so, did you forget to rebuff that buff, if so, it might go down quite a bit in levels, allowing higher level mobs to be able to fear you. Think of it where you try to kill Nagafen and he has a fear, ofcourse he would have a 100% chance to fear you, being 30 levels higher than you.

As far as Fearless, it has worked great for me in all T7 raid zones. Only one I've had problems with is Divine Aura in Courts, where Sunchild just breaks right through that, where the game gives me the "Failed to avoid attack." message.

FlintAH · 09-23-2006, 12:09 PM

tiger911 wrote:
Just wanted to put my 2 cents in here, but were you by any chance mentoring before you went to raid? And if so, did you forget to rebuff that buff, if so, it might go down quite a bit in levels, allowing higher level mobs to be able to fear you. Think of it where you try to kill Nagafen and he has a fear, ofcourse he would have a 100% chance to fear you, being 30 levels higher than you.

As far as Fearless, it has worked great for me in all T7 raid zones. Only one I've had problems with is Divine Aura in Courts, where Sunchild just breaks right through that, where the game gives me the "Failed to avoid attack." message.

[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]? what does divine aura have to do w/ fear? and sunchild breaks through it b/c she is hitting for more than 50% of your health.

tiger911 · 09-23-2006, 02:29 PM

FlintAH wrote:

tiger911 wrote:

Just wanted to put my 2 cents in here, but were you by any chance mentoring before you went to raid? And if so, did you forget to rebuff that buff, if so, it might go down quite a bit in levels, allowing higher level mobs to be able to fear you. Think of it where you try to kill Nagafen and he has a fear, ofcourse he would have a 100% chance to fear you, being 30 levels higher than you.

As far as Fearless, it has worked great for me in all T7 raid zones. Only one I've had problems with is Divine Aura in Courts, where Sunchild just breaks right through that, where the game gives me the "Failed to avoid attack." message.

[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]? what does divine aura have to do w/ fear? and sunchild breaks through it b/c she is hitting for more than 50% of your health.

Hehe, Sunchild hitting me for 50% of my health, that's too funny. I'm at 5k phys mit and 80% magic mit on all but mental (4000k) solo buffed along with 7.5k hp and never fall below yellow against him. No way he would be hitting me for over 50% each hit. All I get is the "Failed to avoid attack." message the 10 seconds I have it on for. So I would say there is something wrong with it.

And as far what it has to do with fearless, nothing, but I guess you didn't read the rest of my post where I talked about nothing but fearless.

Vulkan_NTooki · 10-01-2006, 02:09 AM

I got feared from uncaged in labs.. wearing the lycae shield that grants immunity to fear.. SMILEY

Boethius_Permafrost · 10-01-2006, 12:46 PM

Mentoring would not affect the fear immunity buff. It only has one level, so it cannot be reduced, and even if it were, it would still be "grants immunity to fear." The other wisdom line buffs are reduced to 1 rank (apprentice 1, like all other buffs), and they have numbers that can be reduced, but what the buffs do is never changed. Granted, there could be another bug with mentoring, and buffs in general can be weird. Once, the server crashed while I was in a raid instance, and when I logged back in, I had a +dps mod, presumably from some buff on the raid, until the next time I died, maybe two days later.

tiger911 · 10-05-2006, 07:42 PM

Boethius_Permafrost wrote:

Granted, there could be another bug with mentoring, and buffs in general can be weird. Once, the server crashed while I was in a raid instance, and when I logged back in, I had a +dps mod, presumably from some buff on the raid, until the next time I died, maybe two days later.

Yup, I remember once I was asking guildies if somehow fighter/crusaders got a dps mod boost, because I logged in and had like a 65% DPS Mod or something like that. That was probably the Coercer's buffs that was in my group from the raid now that I think about it. I never actually checked if it worked but it did end up going away after a while. As far as the mentoring buffs, ya, I still feel it should auto adjust based on level rather than having to rebuff everything everytime we unmentor, but I can't complain too much because I really like the new mentoring system compared to the one where you had to goto your spell list and find your old spells, especially considering that I am on 27 masters and 7 adept 3s.

A couple things I did notice, was first when I changed AAs at one point to try new things, I had to relog a couple times for the new AAs to go into effect. For instance the Haste mod didn't show up until after I relogged a couple times. Also changing gear to look at stats / mit messed something up, where I ended up missing stats when I put my regular gear back. I had to unequipt everything and re-equipt it for the stats to go back.

09-19-2006, 03:56 PM	#2
Monfar Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 53	I have had it too a while ago , for no reason it just ignored fearless. Never happened again. __________________

09-19-2006, 11:21 PM	#6
FlintAH Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 382	slubins wrote: I was in Lyceum tonight and got feared at the first named. I have the AA line all filled out including the 8 that goes into immunity to fear. Any ideas or suggestions? Any one else getting feared there or anywhere else? I would think immunity is just that...immunity. Did you cast the buff?

09-20-2006, 07:05 PM	#9
Crib92 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here nor there Posts: 320	shadowsmage wrote: it has never failed for me, and ive had it 3 weeks after KOS launch. me thinks someone forgot to cast. Ding ding ding....we have a winner

09-20-2006, 07:22 PM	#10
Monfar Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 53	shadowsmage wrote: it has never failed for me, and ive had it 3 weeks after KOS launch. me thinks someone forgot to cast. Was not the case for me , it was up but still got feared 2 times , I think it was maybe 2 months ago.And it was not a charm.Maybe the OP did forget to cast it but I know for me it bugged so could very well have been the same for Slubins.This is eq2 don't forget __________________

09-20-2006, 11:05 PM	#12
FlintAH Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 382	Crib92 wrote: Some mobs debuff. You could have died and forgot to recast. Unless someone can post a screenie of being feared while the buff is up then it will be difficult to get Dev's attention. I had this buff for two months and was never feared. (Before respec to something useful) I noticed this yesterday in Lyceum. When I went in the room to pull like I normally do I got feared even though the buff was up. I had the immune thing flash over my head, but it put the screaming guy in my buff window and I started walking slowly in a different direction.

09-19-2006, 07:47 AM	#1
slubins Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	I was in Lyceum tonight and got feared at the first named. I have the AA line all filled out including the 8 that goes into immunity to fear. Any ideas or suggestions? Any one else getting feared there or anywhere else? I would think immunity is just that...immunity.

09-19-2006, 04:18 PM	#3
Rarlin Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 273	I had this AA line for a while but was feared all the time so I respeced...

09-19-2006, 07:05 PM	#4
Boethius_Permafrost Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 335	I've been charmed there, but not feared.

09-19-2006, 08:25 PM	#5
slubins Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	Could it have been charm then? I know that one of the raiders took a potion that provides a limited immunity to fear and they were able to avoid being "feared". I have been charmed before and usually attack fellow raid mates. In this encounter you just walk around unable to control your movements.

09-20-2006, 06:29 PM	#7
falconx3 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23	I was there last night had wasnt gettin feared.

09-20-2006, 06:57 PM	#8
shadowsmage Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5	it has never failed for me, and ive had it 3 weeks after KOS launch. me thinks someone forgot to cast.

09-20-2006, 08:07 PM	#11
Crib92 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here nor there Posts: 320	Some mobs debuff. You could have died and forgot to recast. Unless someone can post a screenie of being feared while the buff is up then it will be difficult to get Dev's attention. I had this buff for two months and was never feared. (Before respec to something useful)

09-20-2006, 11:24 PM	#13
Crib92 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here nor there Posts: 320	Was there any type of message indicating that it you were feared? Something in the log that could be used as evidence?

09-21-2006, 02:30 AM	#14
FlintAH Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 382	I doubt it since it was saying immune over my head. I dont care enough to dig back through my logs.

09-21-2006, 07:45 AM	#15
slubins Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	Great responses...although it is possible that I had forgot to cast it (nothing like doubting yourself), I could have sworn that I had it on. To eliminate that possibility I will hit Lyceum again on Monday and make sure that it is indeed up. I will do screenshots/logs if indeed it is not working. I hope I forgot to cast, that would be the most easily fixed solution :smileywink: Message Edited by slubins on 09-20-2006 11:46 PM

09-21-2006, 06:58 PM	#16
Monfar Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 53	slubins wrote: (nothing like doubting yourself) Message Edited by slubins on 09-20-200611:46 PM You probably had it up , you are not the first one to experience this. Good thing is that since the instance was opened it has only happened one time to me and zero for others so chance it will happen again is slim. __________________

09-22-2006, 04:13 PM	#17
tiger911 Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 27	Just wanted to put my 2 cents in here, but were you by any chance mentoring before you went to raid? And if so, did you forget to rebuff that buff, if so, it might go down quite a bit in levels, allowing higher level mobs to be able to fear you. Think of it where you try to kill Nagafen and he has a fear, ofcourse he would have a 100% chance to fear you, being 30 levels higher than you. As far as Fearless, it has worked great for me in all T7 raid zones. Only one I've had problems with is Divine Aura in Courts, where Sunchild just breaks right through that, where the game gives me the "Failed to avoid attack." message. __________________

09-23-2006, 12:09 PM	#18
FlintAH Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 382	tiger911 wrote: Just wanted to put my 2 cents in here, but were you by any chance mentoring before you went to raid? And if so, did you forget to rebuff that buff, if so, it might go down quite a bit in levels, allowing higher level mobs to be able to fear you. Think of it where you try to kill Nagafen and he has a fear, ofcourse he would have a 100% chance to fear you, being 30 levels higher than you. As far as Fearless, it has worked great for me in all T7 raid zones. Only one I've had problems with is Divine Aura in Courts, where Sunchild just breaks right through that, where the game gives me the "Failed to avoid attack." message. [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]? what does divine aura have to do w/ fear? and sunchild breaks through it b/c she is hitting for more than 50% of your health.

09-23-2006, 02:29 PM	#19
tiger911 Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 27	FlintAH wrote: tiger911 wrote: Just wanted to put my 2 cents in here, but were you by any chance mentoring before you went to raid? And if so, did you forget to rebuff that buff, if so, it might go down quite a bit in levels, allowing higher level mobs to be able to fear you. Think of it where you try to kill Nagafen and he has a fear, ofcourse he would have a 100% chance to fear you, being 30 levels higher than you. As far as Fearless, it has worked great for me in all T7 raid zones. Only one I've had problems with is Divine Aura in Courts, where Sunchild just breaks right through that, where the game gives me the "Failed to avoid attack." message. [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]? what does divine aura have to do w/ fear? and sunchild breaks through it b/c she is hitting for more than 50% of your health. Hehe, Sunchild hitting me for 50% of my health, that's too funny. I'm at 5k phys mit and 80% magic mit on all but mental (4000k) solo buffed along with 7.5k hp and never fall below yellow against him. No way he would be hitting me for over 50% each hit. All I get is the "Failed to avoid attack." message the 10 seconds I have it on for. So I would say there is something wrong with it. And as far what it has to do with fearless, nothing, but I guess you didn't read the rest of my post where I talked about nothing but fearless. __________________

10-01-2006, 02:09 AM	#20
Vulkan_NTooki Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 644	I got feared from uncaged in labs.. wearing the lycae shield that grants immunity to fear.. __________________

10-01-2006, 12:46 PM	#21
Boethius_Permafrost Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 335	Mentoring would not affect the fear immunity buff. It only has one level, so it cannot be reduced, and even if it were, it would still be "grants immunity to fear." The other wisdom line buffs are reduced to 1 rank (apprentice 1, like all other buffs), and they have numbers that can be reduced, but what the buffs do is never changed. Granted, there could be another bug with mentoring, and buffs in general can be weird. Once, the server crashed while I was in a raid instance, and when I logged back in, I had a +dps mod, presumably from some buff on the raid, until the next time I died, maybe two days later.

10-05-2006, 07:42 PM	#22
tiger911 Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 27	Boethius_Permafrost wrote: Granted, there could be another bug with mentoring, and buffs in general can be weird. Once, the server crashed while I was in a raid instance, and when I logged back in, I had a +dps mod, presumably from some buff on the raid, until the next time I died, maybe two days later. Yup, I remember once I was asking guildies if somehow fighter/crusaders got a dps mod boost, because I logged in and had like a 65% DPS Mod or something like that. That was probably the Coercer's buffs that was in my group from the raid now that I think about it. I never actually checked if it worked but it did end up going away after a while. As far as the mentoring buffs, ya, I still feel it should auto adjust based on level rather than having to rebuff everything everytime we unmentor, but I can't complain too much because I really like the new mentoring system compared to the one where you had to goto your spell list and find your old spells, especially considering that I am on 27 masters and 7 adept 3s. A couple things I did notice, was first when I changed AAs at one point to try new things, I had to relog a couple times for the new AAs to go into effect. For instance the Haste mod didn't show up until after I relogged a couple times. Also changing gear to look at stats / mit messed something up, where I ended up missing stats when I put my regular gear back. I had to unequipt everything and re-equipt it for the stats to go back. __________________