Help with AAs

Skargr · 12-20-2006, 09:06 PM

Okay I'm a level 16 SK and nedd some help with all this AA malarkey - any advice on how it works and pointers for someone who groups/solos but has no desire to raid? I'm new to the game so be gentle...

tehh4x · 12-20-2006, 09:08 PM

get your spell crit first which is the INT AA line get a 4-4-8 there before you think of anything else SMILEY

Skargr · 12-20-2006, 09:25 PM

Thanks for the advice but you need to use laymans terms - I have no idea what a 4 4 8 is. Sorry I'm a complete n00b at EQ2.

tehh4x · 12-20-2006, 09:27 PM

hmm ... hard to explain in text :p but um 4-4-8 means you put 4 into the first bubble of the INT AA line, then 4 in the next and 8 in the 3rd one so its like...

4

8

ReficulFonwaps · 12-20-2006, 09:29 PM

Pretty sure everyone will agree on going 4-4-8 INT first thing.

Skargr · 12-20-2006, 09:51 PM

Is there an online AA builder? Somewhere I can play with possible ideas and builds.

Norrsken · 12-20-2006, 10:04 PM

Skargrim wrote:
Is there an online AA builder? Somewhere I can play with possible ideas and builds.

Not that I know of, and if I wasnt so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] tired, I could prolly make one. SMILEY

Gosh would the other classes be jeoulous if the sks had such a tool. SMILEY

Xanoth · 12-20-2006, 10:08 PM

roxer2b Lord

grats on ding SMILEY

a tool would be great, a few classes have web applications for their class, but nothing major.i'd love something as complete as the old SWG skill planner.

Norrsken · 12-20-2006, 10:39 PM

Xanoth wrote:
roxer2b Lord
grats on ding a tool would be great, a few classes have web applications for their class, but nothing major.i'd love something as complete as the old SWG skill planner.

Thanks.

Someone actually looks at my posts? SMILEY

Im baffled!

t0iletduck · 12-20-2006, 11:01 PM

Skargrim wrote:
Is there an online AA builder? Somewhere I can play with possible ideas and builds.

Not that I know of. Best thing you can do is to bring up your AA tree and read EVERY item. I am a raid MT/DPS/Off tank and can tell you that INT 4-4-8 is the best way to start.

Skargr · 12-21-2006, 12:51 PM

OKay, now I'm feeling very dim.

I got home last night and hit the L key to open up the skill trees. I browsed the Crusader and SK tabs but couldn;t for the life of me find anything that looked like an INT path.

Anyone care to illuminate me?

Arlon · 12-21-2006, 02:15 PM

Skargrim wrote:
OKay, now I'm feeling very dim.
I got home last night and hit the L key to open up the skill trees. I browsed the Crusader and SK tabs but couldn;t for the life of me find anything that looked like an INT path.
Anyone care to illuminate me?

INT tree is on the right in Crusader achievements. Starts with Legionnaire's Intelligence. There is a pre EoF browsing thingy in the web (thanks to KamidariTuibumbi):http://home.comcast.net/%7Emharper68/achievements/achievements.html http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=9&message.id=17315

Message Edited by Arlon on 12-21-2006 11:16 AM

Skargr · 12-21-2006, 02:39 PM

Thanks - that helps a lot.

ONe further question - does the 448 build mean putting 4 points into Legionnairres Intelligence, 4 points into Legionairres Pact and then 8 points into Legionairres Wrath? Or am I missing the point (AGAIN!!).

Arlon · 12-21-2006, 02:44 PM

Skargrim wrote:

Thanks - that helps a lot.

ONe further question - does the 448 build mean putting 4 points into Legionnairres Intelligence, 4 points into Legionairres Pact and then 8 points into Legionairres Wrath? Or am I missing the point (AGAIN!!).

Yes you got it right, that's what 448 means.

Skargr · 12-21-2006, 02:57 PM

And by taking the second 4 points in Legionairres Pact I have to have a symbol in one hand therefore not being able to wield 2-handed weapons?

Arlon · 12-21-2006, 03:18 PM

Skargrim wrote:
And by taking the second 4 points in Legionairres Pact I have to have a symbol in one hand therefore not being able to wield 2-handed weapons?

Nope, it gives you an option to do so. You can still use 1h + shield or 2h. Edit: and you get one more spell icon to fill your hotbar :smileytongue:. Spell can be used only when wielding a symbol.

Message Edited by Arlon on 12-21-2006 12:29 PM

Skargr · 12-21-2006, 05:59 PM

Arlon wrote:

Nope, it gives you an option to do so. You can still use 1h + shield or 2h.
Edit: and you get one more spell icon to fill your hotbar :smileytongue:. Spell can be used only when wielding a symbol.

So, the 4 points in Pact are merely there to give me access to Legionairres Wrath?

Arlon · 12-21-2006, 06:19 PM

Skargrim wrote:
So, the 4 points in Pact are merely there to give me access to Legionairres Wrath?

Yes.

Dogfood76 · 12-21-2006, 07:14 PM

I'm now a level 22 shadowknight and I went a slightly different path. I didn't like the idea of spending 1 point in that Focus thing to start the Crusader tree, then 4 points in Intelligence (boring!) then 4 MORE points in something I'd never use (symbols?!?) to finally get something nice. So I spent 2 points in the Unholy Weapon upgrade in the Shadowknight tree as a pre-req for spending 2 in the Blessing heal upgrade.

I did this because I really like Blessing as a soloer and small-grouper. The Unholy Weapon upgrade isn't huge (% increase to proc) but I do like getting more heals from that crazy blessing. So my first 4 points went into the Shadowknight tree, and now I'm heading down the Int line in the Crusader tree.

You can reset all your points and respend them, but I did read somewhere that you cannot move points spent in the Shadowknight tree into the Crusader tree, and vice versa. So that kinda stinks. Everywhere I've read agrees that the Int line is the best thing to advance first, but I just hated the idea of getting very very little gain for my first 9 or 10 achievement points. I may regret that later in my Shadowknight career, but for now I like it.

Skargr · 12-21-2006, 07:36 PM

Great to se someone going their own route on AAs. I'm 14 and looking to spend my first two points. I can see how getting to the spell crit power in INT would be good but you have waste so many points to get there - thats really annoys me. I may look at alternative builds seeing as I don;t raid and have no intention of doing so.

Norrsken · 12-21-2006, 08:37 PM

yes, going your own way with the AAs is a good thing, especially with a versatile such as the sk. SMILEY

Seems that you get a good payoff pretty much whatever you decide to focus on. SMILEY

12-20-2006, 09:27 PM	#4
tehh4x Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 51	hmm ... hard to explain in text :p but um 4-4-8 means you put 4 into the first bubble of the INT AA line, then 4 in the next and 8 in the 3rd one so its like... 4 4 8

12-20-2006, 10:04 PM	#7
Norrsken Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,450	Skargrim wrote: Is there an online AA builder? Somewhere I can play with possible ideas and builds. Not that I know of, and if I wasnt so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] tired, I could prolly make one. Gosh would the other classes be jeoulous if the sks had such a tool. __________________

12-20-2006, 10:08 PM	#8
Xanoth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Durham, UK Posts: 928	roxer2b Lord grats on ding a tool would be great, a few classes have web applications for their class, but nothing major.i'd love something as complete as the old SWG skill planner. __________________ Xanoth Leader of Xanadu EQ2 Raid Loot Database

12-20-2006, 10:39 PM	#9
Norrsken Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,450	Xanoth wrote: roxer2b Lord grats on ding a tool would be great, a few classes have web applications for their class, but nothing major.i'd love something as complete as the old SWG skill planner. Thanks. Someone actually looks at my posts? Im baffled! __________________

12-20-2006, 11:01 PM	#10
t0iletduck Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 212	Skargrim wrote: Is there an online AA builder? Somewhere I can play with possible ideas and builds. Not that I know of. Best thing you can do is to bring up your AA tree and read EVERY item. I am a raid MT/DPS/Off tank and can tell you that INT 4-4-8 is the best way to start.

12-20-2006, 09:06 PM	#1
Skargr Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44	Okay I'm a level 16 SK and nedd some help with all this AA malarkey - any advice on how it works and pointers for someone who groups/solos but has no desire to raid? I'm new to the game so be gentle...

12-20-2006, 09:08 PM	#2
tehh4x Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 51	get your spell crit first which is the INT AA line get a 4-4-8 there before you think of anything else

12-20-2006, 09:25 PM	#3
Skargr Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44	Thanks for the advice but you need to use laymans terms - I have no idea what a 4 4 8 is. Sorry I'm a complete n00b at EQ2.

12-20-2006, 09:29 PM	#5
ReficulFonwaps Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 161	Pretty sure everyone will agree on going 4-4-8 INT first thing.

12-20-2006, 09:51 PM	#6
Skargr Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44	Is there an online AA builder? Somewhere I can play with possible ideas and builds.

12-21-2006, 12:51 PM	#11
Skargr Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44	OKay, now I'm feeling very dim. I got home last night and hit the L key to open up the skill trees. I browsed the Crusader and SK tabs but couldn;t for the life of me find anything that looked like an INT path. Anyone care to illuminate me?

12-21-2006, 02:15 PM	#12
Arlon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	Skargrim wrote: OKay, now I'm feeling very dim. I got home last night and hit the L key to open up the skill trees. I browsed the Crusader and SK tabs but couldn;t for the life of me find anything that looked like an INT path. Anyone care to illuminate me? INT tree is on the right in Crusader achievements. Starts with Legionnaire's Intelligence. There is a pre EoF browsing thingy in the web (thanks to KamidariTuibumbi):http://home.comcast.net/%7Emharper68/achievements/achievements.html http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=9&message.id=17315 Message Edited by Arlon on 12-21-2006 11:16 AM

12-21-2006, 02:39 PM	#13
Skargr Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44	Thanks - that helps a lot. ONe further question - does the 448 build mean putting 4 points into Legionnairres Intelligence, 4 points into Legionairres Pact and then 8 points into Legionairres Wrath? Or am I missing the point (AGAIN!!).

12-21-2006, 02:44 PM	#14
Arlon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	Skargrim wrote: Thanks - that helps a lot. ONe further question - does the 448 build mean putting 4 points into Legionnairres Intelligence, 4 points into Legionairres Pact and then 8 points into Legionairres Wrath? Or am I missing the point (AGAIN!!). Yes you got it right, that's what 448 means.

12-21-2006, 02:57 PM	#15
Skargr Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44	And by taking the second 4 points in Legionairres Pact I have to have a symbol in one hand therefore not being able to wield 2-handed weapons?

12-21-2006, 03:18 PM	#16
Arlon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	Skargrim wrote: And by taking the second 4 points in Legionairres Pact I have to have a symbol in one hand therefore not being able to wield 2-handed weapons? Nope, it gives you an option to do so. You can still use 1h + shield or 2h. Edit: and you get one more spell icon to fill your hotbar :smileytongue:. Spell can be used only when wielding a symbol. Message Edited by Arlon on 12-21-2006 12:29 PM

12-21-2006, 05:59 PM	#17
Skargr Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44	Arlon wrote: Nope, it gives you an option to do so. You can still use 1h + shield or 2h. Edit: and you get one more spell icon to fill your hotbar :smileytongue:. Spell can be used only when wielding a symbol. So, the 4 points in Pact are merely there to give me access to Legionairres Wrath?

12-21-2006, 06:19 PM	#18
Arlon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	Skargrim wrote: So, the 4 points in Pact are merely there to give me access to Legionairres Wrath? Yes.

12-21-2006, 07:14 PM	#19
Dogfood76 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11	I'm now a level 22 shadowknight and I went a slightly different path. I didn't like the idea of spending 1 point in that Focus thing to start the Crusader tree, then 4 points in Intelligence (boring!) then 4 MORE points in something I'd never use (symbols?!?) to finally get something nice. So I spent 2 points in the Unholy Weapon upgrade in the Shadowknight tree as a pre-req for spending 2 in the Blessing heal upgrade. I did this because I really like Blessing as a soloer and small-grouper. The Unholy Weapon upgrade isn't huge (% increase to proc) but I do like getting more heals from that crazy blessing. So my first 4 points went into the Shadowknight tree, and now I'm heading down the Int line in the Crusader tree. You can reset all your points and respend them, but I did read somewhere that you cannot move points spent in the Shadowknight tree into the Crusader tree, and vice versa. So that kinda stinks. Everywhere I've read agrees that the Int line is the best thing to advance first, but I just hated the idea of getting very very little gain for my first 9 or 10 achievement points. I may regret that later in my Shadowknight career, but for now I like it.

12-21-2006, 07:36 PM	#20
Skargr Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44	Great to se someone going their own route on AAs. I'm 14 and looking to spend my first two points. I can see how getting to the spell crit power in INT would be good but you have waste so many points to get there - thats really annoys me. I may look at alternative builds seeing as I don;t raid and have no intention of doing so.

12-21-2006, 08:37 PM	#21
Norrsken Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,450	yes, going your own way with the AAs is a good thing, especially with a versatile such as the sk. Seems that you get a good payoff pretty much whatever you decide to focus on. __________________