EQ2's best Shadowknights.... Who are they? - Page 3

Darkaren · 11-15-2006, 09:38 AM

Gear makes players, obviously. Seeing as you have only seen what I camped out in.

Ive still accomplished more than you can even dream of. That pretty much sums it up. Let me know if you can even beat Djinn master prism. I might gain a little more respect for you, rather than someone I see here, calling out sks, proclaiming that because you decided to play a shadowknight in pvp when it was released that you know anything about raiding.

Plain and simple, you dont.

I ask you again, why would I trade the best shadowknight in game to roll a new toon on a pvp server? Because im a bluebie. I can accept that, you still will never match me, nor can you match my guilds accomplishments in the same expansion.

Dont feed me the pvp makes it impossible to kill matron, because you and I know that might be true. Yet It does not stop you from killing instanced encounter.

End of story, the rest of the eq2 world looks at pvp servers as a joke to serious raiding. Grow up.

Darkaren · 11-15-2006, 09:39 AM

also, why not trying a class that might take difficulty to be good at in pvp, then compare your abilities.

Hey, I can cast a lifetap ward, followed by tap veins, and if I need to, harm touch, man I must be some sort of god.

And youd be right, sks are gods.

Darkaren · 11-15-2006, 09:45 AM

If a sk I know has a good head on his shoulders, Its dogmae.

Another thing I will not accept is someone telling me I dont know what im talking about.

People ask for, and take my advice why? You may have to ask them.

If dogmae says Im clueless, Ill even beleive it, and proclaim myself the worst sk in the game.

Simple as that. Some pvp sk that doesnt have the slightlest clue about where the class came from, and things its endured on real servers, should not lecture those of us whove played it for two years now. Thanks.

Tasmai · 11-15-2006, 12:25 PM

Well said Dark.

Gnar seems competent, but to proclaim himself the best sk in the game (which he obviously isn't) because he has pvp stats? [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is that?

Not really any sk's on my server who are comparable to me, so worldwide I can only go by whats said on the worldwide sk channel, whats on these forums and by comparing gear/stats/aa's via eq2players (those that have it viewable anyways), so my vote would have to go to Dog and Dark. But it's purely speculation anyways, as there is no way to prove anything. Claiming to be able to tank anything in the game really holds no merit as there are many of us who could, given the oppurtunity, do the same thing.

gnarkill · 11-15-2006, 02:52 PM

Tasmai wrote:

Well said Dark.

Gnar seems competent, but to proclaim himself the best sk in the game (which he obviously isn't) because he has pvp stats? [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is that?

Not really any sk's on my server who are comparable to me, so worldwide I can only go by whats said on the worldwide sk channel, whats on these forums and by comparing gear/stats/aa's via eq2players (those that have it viewable anyways), so my vote would have to go to Dog and Dark. But it's purely speculation anyways, as there is no way to prove anything. Claiming to be able to tank anything in the game really holds no merit as there are many of us who could, given the oppurtunity, do the same thing.

I never claimed any such thing....detect sarcasm much? I would not say anyone was the best SK WW that would be dumb...Dark claimed HE was...scroll up and see his post and thats why I called him out...Tell me what you as an SK personally have accomplished Dark that i have not? Please enlighten me....BTW I have seen your gear on your server after you posted that I came and saw you....not on eq2players

Message Edited by ta2demon on 11-15-2006 01:55 AM

gnarkill · 11-15-2006, 03:01 PM

Darkaren wrote:nobody cares about pvp sks.sorry.PvP sks are just second tier players that couldnt hack it in the guilds, servers, and competition.If you disagree, kindly list you former name, server, and guild. Accompanied with any other info you may feel makes you good.ANDHowever, I dont spend the bulk of my time at pvp, Because, I am the best shadowknight in the game. Why give that up for some lame title you covet so dear?Darkaren, Guk,NePlusUltra.

According to your above posts YOU came to call out people not me...I was sticking up for myself and others that know your full of [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]...Dont twist it

Message Edited by ta2demon on 11-15-2006 02:02 AM

Ramglob · 11-15-2006, 07:43 PM

It is people like Dark that don't have the courage to put his skills against other players on a populated PVP server. Your mother would be ashamed.

HentaiB · 11-15-2006, 08:02 PM

I declare myself the finest and bestest 1/2 elf SK on guk. At least untill somebody rolls one that gets beyond 50.

Darkaren · 11-15-2006, 08:37 PM

its that simple.Dekeon is the second best. !But seriouslty tho, I am the bestBTW i do play pvp you idiots. Just not on my sk.

Ramglob · 11-15-2006, 08:46 PM

No you don't!!!!

Darkaren · 11-15-2006, 09:02 PM

YES I DO

Ramglob · 11-15-2006, 09:25 PM

No. I don't think you do!!!! By the way I once tanked the Grolven Chiptooth

Darkaren · 11-15-2006, 09:33 PM

dood. I so totally wear augurspike.BEST EARRING EVA

Seiden · 11-16-2006, 08:02 AM

Slithery on the oasis server is the Sexiest. I would say the best, but that would be questioning my sexuality.

Darkaren · 11-16-2006, 08:21 PM

hey gnarkill.

if your so adiment that you have no alts. open up your bio, I actually went to look at you today while the servers were down.

Funny, you dont have better gear than me, where did that statement come from?

Also. Your not a master anymore.

Ramglob · 11-16-2006, 08:31 PM

It is very obvious that you are envious of Gnarkill Dark..........Just try not to make it so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] obvious!!!!!!!!

Kelkirra · 11-17-2006, 05:26 AM

Darkaren wrote:

hey gnarkill.

if your so adiment that you have no alts. open up your bio, I actually went to look at you today while the servers were down.

Funny, you dont have better gear than me, where did that statement come from?

Also. Your not a master anymore.

This is what I see. Someone from a guild that has their entire guild on the test servers fighting mobs that SoE gives them a blueprint to flaming someone else because . . . .???? Mature eh? I don't see much better than you. He never claimed that he was the best, he's had plenty of others do that for him which says a lot in my eyes. SMILEY

Lerai · 11-17-2006, 05:40 AM

so how do these "changes" from the expansion affect PvP for SK? Better or worse?.....I'm just a lowbie SK...I'm trying to get a higher level's pov.

Darkaren · 11-17-2006, 09:07 PM

"This is what I see. Someone from a guild that has their entire guild on the test servers fighting mobs that SoE gives them a blueprint to flaming someone else because . . . .???? Mature eh? I don't see much better than you. He never claimed that he was the best, he's had plenty of others do that for him which says a lot in my eyes."This is what I see. You have no idea what your talking about with regards to testing. If youd like to go into it, feel free to pm or send me a tell in game. Im pretty sick of typing any of it on the boards. People are stupid, plain in simple. Wait, wait, I forgot, we spawned a mender at d jinn master prism, thats the only way we could have been there till 4am. My bad.I flame him because h feels that because hes a pvp sk, hes the best sk in the game. Hes indeed very wrong. I think the fact that he has been sucessful clouded his eyes to interserver compettion that has been going on for two years now. Being a noob to the game, and sucess in general, He ultimately feels hes on top of the game. Its kind of like when a guild clears labs, they have this newly endowed feeling that they are indeed "uber". Then they try something along the lines of the matron, or even cheldrak.Lets not even mention the kinds of benefits being on a pvp server has to raiding. Have you ever looked at the pvp rewards?Im just trying to show a kid that he doesnt really know what hes entering in to yet. Because youve finally done something, yea you have a reason to be proud sure, but the illusion your given that your on top. So very wrong.

Ramglob · 11-17-2006, 09:13 PM

You spelled Competition wrong!!!! Gnarkill would have never spelled that word wrong.

Ultimatum · 11-17-2006, 09:18 PM

Darkaren wrote:Lets not even mention the kinds of benefits being on a pvp server has to raiding. Have you ever looked at the pvp rewards?

Hmmmm do you know ANYTHING about what you are talking about? No? Thought so. Gnarkill is in an Exiled guild...there are no pvp rewards for Exiles. Besides, PvP rewards are just a substitute for raid gear for the people who only PvP...For evey piece of PvP gear there are 10s of raid fabled that are MUCH better. Maybe you could see the bigger picture if you removed your head from your [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. Gnarkill is a very good SK...no doubt one of the best, and the fact that other people attest to it furthers that assumption. He also helps out the SK community, which I have yet to see you do. Keep it up though...maybe someone will make a "Douchiest SK" thread where you could reign supreme :smileyvery-happy:

Ramglob · 11-17-2006, 09:34 PM

In all seriousness, I believe the reward should go to Gnarkill because he has set the bar in both PVE and PVP. I have done well in PVP but have not accomplished anything in regards to the PVE aspect of the game. Gnarkill has accomplished a lot in both aspects. I have no doubt that there are excellent SK's on the PVE servers. I have no doubt that they all would do very well in PVP for the most part. Since I have not played on a PVE server I can not attest to the skills of other SK's. IMO.....until you fight the best of the other classes in random environments you can not claim to be the top SK. I go with what I know.

Squiggy

DUNN · 11-18-2006, 02:38 AM

You guys arguing are so full of yourselves LOL. Look the best Sk is the one who never asked anyone how to do this or that. Rather he helped you noobs with questions and answered them. Since I am sure all you noobs including myself asked for help at one point from another sk you are not it. Besides we ware pink lol

PVP isn't any Better than PVE it's just different. All things being equal it comes down to luck and random number generators if you can't see that hen you have issues.

take your [Removed for Content] contest to PM's and save us from your ubberness.

And before you run and look at my gear and cry wolf i was crafting noob (who ever does it first) SMILEY

Message Edited by DUNN on 11-17-2006 01:40 PM

gnarkill · 11-18-2006, 04:59 AM

Darkaren wrote:
hey gnarkill.

if your so adiment that you have no alts. open up your bio, I actually went to look at you today while the servers were down.

Funny, you dont have better gear than me, where did that statement come from?

Also. Your not a master anymore.

Actually you [Removed for Content] those alts are spies parked at contested mobs that never get played....yes my gear is better then yours I wear no lame resist gear and have more mit..And still I have the best overall resists worldwide for SKs See? where are you on that list? Like you said before..you saw gear i logged off in..make an exile come check me out..BTW pvp boards are broken and I am a General not a Master

Kelkirra · 11-18-2006, 05:09 AM

DUNN wrote:

You guys arguing are so full of yourselves LOL. Look the best Sk is the one who never asked anyone how to do this or that. Rather he helped you noobs with questions and answered them. Since I am sure all you noobs including myself asked for help at one point from another sk you are not it. Besides we ware pink lol

PVP isn't any Better than PVE it's just different. All things being equal it comes down to luck and random number generators if you can't see that hen you have issues.

take your [Removed for Content] contest to PM's and save us from your ubberness.

And before you run and look at my gear and cry wolf i was crafting noob (who ever does it first)

Message Edited by DUNN on 11-17-2006 01:40 PM

Just fyi, I'm not a part of the flame as I could honestly care less who believes that my skill as a SK places me in the top or not. I personally do not like to see useless flamming and that's what I saw. Someone claiming to be the best defending his/her self proclaimed title of uberness due to their guild flamming someone else because they're on a different server and a different type of server because. . . .?? I do want to add that asking anyone a question reguarding an aspect of the class you don't understand should not be held against someone and their skill. Personally, I've never asked another SK for help but that's me and my process of understanding a subject/concept/idea/ect. I want to add though that out of all of the names i've seen post here in this thread . . .not a single one of those names have been involved in a thread that I've read/posted in outside of Plant that reguarded SK's and our overall effectivness. . . .and i'm not going to comment on my thoughts about Plant and that subject.

The issue with this thread is that it is not specific enough. There are many roles that we can play with our class and that is not taken into consideration. For example, i'm prolly one of the best SK's on my server AT TANKING, but i have yet to find a casting order or method that prevents me from pulling agro at 700DPS on single target and 1K on multiple targets in raids. While I may be considered an awsome tanking SK on my server (not stating this, just using myself as an example SMILEY ), i'm not exactly the guy to run to for a DPS casting order/AA set-up. If we're going to start an [Removed for Content] thread reguarding who is the best of the best, then we'll have to be a bit more specific or else we're going to wind up with 200 pages of SK's flaming eachother over the different aspects of our class.

Kelkirra · 11-18-2006, 05:20 AM

Darkaren wrote:
"This is what I see. Someone from a guild that has their entire guild on the test servers fighting mobs that SoE gives them a blueprint to flaming someone else because . . . .???? Mature eh? I don't see much better than you. He never claimed that he was the best, he's had plenty of others do that for him which says a lot in my eyes."

This is what I see. You have no idea what your talking about with regards to testing. If youd like to go into it, feel free to pm or send me a tell in game. Im pretty sick of typing any of it on the boards. People are stupid, plain in simple. Wait, wait, I forgot, we spawned a mender at d jinn master prism, thats the only way we could have been there till 4am. My bad.

I flame him because h feels that because hes a pvp sk, hes the best sk in the game. Hes indeed very wrong. I think the fact that he has been sucessful clouded his eyes to interserver compettion that has been going on for two years now. Being a noob to the game, and sucess in general, He ultimately feels hes on top of the game. Its kind of like when a guild clears labs, they have this newly endowed feeling that they are indeed "uber". Then they try something along the lines of the matron, or even cheldrak.

Lets not even mention the kinds of benefits being on a pvp server has to raiding. Have you ever looked at the pvp rewards?

Im just trying to show a kid that he doesnt really know what hes entering in to yet. Because youve finally done something, yea you have a reason to be proud sure, but the illusion your given that your on top. So very wrong.

Your replies are just flames. There is nothing constructive behind anything you've stated so far outside of a battle between PvP and PvE servers. I'm sorry, but I have yet to even hear about you or your contribution to SK's in general. Gnarkill on the other hand I have heard plenty about even if he is newer than you may be. If you have a reason to argue that he is not as skilled as you or should not be considered for a board title that others are giving him over yourself, then by all means . . please post away showing us your reasoning. So far everything that you've stated has been opiniated or disproved. This should be a thread for glory for those that have learned their class and helped others along their way in the game, not a flame war because someone's ego was hurt. SMILEY

gnarkill · 11-18-2006, 07:27 AM

DUNN wrote:

You guys arguing are so full of yourselves LOL. Look the best Sk is the one who never asked anyone how to do this or that. Rather he helped you noobs with questions and answered them. Since I am sure all you noobs including myself asked for help at one point from another sk you are not it. Besides we ware pink lol

I was the second lvl 70 sk on my server (first one quit back in april) then I exiled and was ONLY exile SK..meaning I had no other SK to speak to..I never even asked for help on these SK forums TMK.... I get people that log on to Nagafen lvl a toon up to 10..Then exile him to ask me about SKs and I have no problem helping them out..That in its own right has to mean something....Our guard quit I stepped up to MT and learned to tank everything in the game (minus chel and matron) by myself and the rest is history...I by no means think I am the "best sk" as you can only be so good at anything in this game and alot of SKs have masterd there class...My definiton of the best SKs are people who can do anything that is needed in any situation pvp/pve at the drop of a hat...So in my eyes probably ALOT of us SKs are tied as "top sk" and I will leave it at that

Message Edited by ta2demon on 11-17-2006 06:32 PM

ZhouYu · 11-20-2006, 01:29 PM

Darkaren wrote:
actually im quite good at pvp. I have a t7 master dirge. Not many accomplish that,

and im currently working on a 34 ranger, hes getting pretty close to master.

However, I dont spend the bulk of my time at pvp, Because, I am the best shadowknight in the game. Why give that up for some lame title you covet so dear?

Darkaren, Guk,
NePlusUltra.

If we are talking about pvp titles, atleast on the pvp boards I was the only Master SK. Toon name Luxun.

gnarkill · 11-20-2006, 04:30 PM

ZhouYu wrote:

Darkaren wrote:actually im quite good at pvp. I have a t7 master dirge. Not many accomplish that,and im currently working on a 34 ranger, hes getting pretty close to master.However, I dont spend the bulk of my time at pvp, Because, I am the best shadowknight in the game. Why give that up for some lame title you covet so dear?Darkaren, Guk,NePlusUltra.

If we are talking about pvp titles, atleast on the pvp boards I was the only Master SK. Toon name Luxun.

You have made that blatently clear 1000 times...T7 wont be nice to you =)

Darkaren · 11-20-2006, 08:28 PM

you all really make me laugh. I wonder why I ever came back to these boards.I have not, and will not ask for any of your help.Even if I did, id go to a proven sk anyway.DOGMAE FOR PRESIDENT!

11-15-2006, 12:25 PM	#64
Tasmai Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 49	Well said Dark. Gnar seems competent, but to proclaim himself the best sk in the game (which he obviously isn't) because he has pvp stats? [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is that? Not really any sk's on my server who are comparable to me, so worldwide I can only go by whats said on the worldwide sk channel, whats on these forums and by comparing gear/stats/aa's via eq2players (those that have it viewable anyways), so my vote would have to go to Dog and Dark. But it's purely speculation anyways, as there is no way to prove anything. Claiming to be able to tank anything in the game really holds no merit as there are many of us who could, given the oppurtunity, do the same thing. __________________ Kaylee - 90/250 Shadowknight Prexi - 90/250 - Illusionist

11-15-2006, 02:52 PM	#65
gnarkill Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 209	Tasmai wrote: Well said Dark. Gnar seems competent, but to proclaim himself the best sk in the game (which he obviously isn't) because he has pvp stats? [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] is that? Not really any sk's on my server who are comparable to me, so worldwide I can only go by whats said on the worldwide sk channel, whats on these forums and by comparing gear/stats/aa's via eq2players (those that have it viewable anyways), so my vote would have to go to Dog and Dark. But it's purely speculation anyways, as there is no way to prove anything. Claiming to be able to tank anything in the game really holds no merit as there are many of us who could, given the oppurtunity, do the same thing. I never claimed any such thing....detect sarcasm much? I would not say anyone was the best SK WW that would be dumb...Dark claimed HE was...scroll up and see his post and thats why I called him out...Tell me what you as an SK personally have accomplished Dark that i have not? Please enlighten me....BTW I have seen your gear on your server after you posted that I came and saw you....not on eq2players Message Edited by ta2demon on 11-15-2006 01:55 AM

11-15-2006, 08:02 PM	#68
HentaiB General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 119	I declare myself the finest and bestest 1/2 elf SK on guk. At least untill somebody rolls one that gets beyond 50. __________________ The only thing you truely own is yourself.

11-17-2006, 05:26 AM	#77
Kelkirra Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 518	Darkaren wrote: hey gnarkill. if your so adiment that you have no alts. open up your bio, I actually went to look at you today while the servers were down. Funny, you dont have better gear than me, where did that statement come from? Also. Your not a master anymore. This is what I see. Someone from a guild that has their entire guild on the test servers fighting mobs that SoE gives them a blueprint to flaming someone else because . . . .???? Mature eh? I don't see much better than you. He never claimed that he was the best, he's had plenty of others do that for him which says a lot in my eyes. __________________ Naldir -=New Outriders=-

11-17-2006, 05:40 AM	#78
Lerai Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 7	so how do these "changes" from the expansion affect PvP for SK? Better or worse?.....I'm just a lowbie SK...I'm trying to get a higher level's pov. __________________

11-15-2006, 09:38 AM	#61
Darkaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 52	Gear makes players, obviously. Seeing as you have only seen what I camped out in. Ive still accomplished more than you can even dream of. That pretty much sums it up. Let me know if you can even beat Djinn master prism. I might gain a little more respect for you, rather than someone I see here, calling out sks, proclaiming that because you decided to play a shadowknight in pvp when it was released that you know anything about raiding. Plain and simple, you dont. I ask you again, why would I trade the best shadowknight in game to roll a new toon on a pvp server? Because im a bluebie. I can accept that, you still will never match me, nor can you match my guilds accomplishments in the same expansion. Dont feed me the pvp makes it impossible to kill matron, because you and I know that might be true. Yet It does not stop you from killing instanced encounter. End of story, the rest of the eq2 world looks at pvp servers as a joke to serious raiding. Grow up.

11-15-2006, 09:39 AM	#62
Darkaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 52	also, why not trying a class that might take difficulty to be good at in pvp, then compare your abilities. Hey, I can cast a lifetap ward, followed by tap veins, and if I need to, harm touch, man I must be some sort of god. And youd be right, sks are gods.

11-15-2006, 09:45 AM	#63
Darkaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 52	If a sk I know has a good head on his shoulders, Its dogmae. Another thing I will not accept is someone telling me I dont know what im talking about. People ask for, and take my advice why? You may have to ask them. If dogmae says Im clueless, Ill even beleive it, and proclaim myself the worst sk in the game. Simple as that. Some pvp sk that doesnt have the slightlest clue about where the class came from, and things its endured on real servers, should not lecture those of us whove played it for two years now. Thanks.

11-15-2006, 03:01 PM	#66
gnarkill Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 209	Darkaren wrote:nobody cares about pvp sks.sorry.PvP sks are just second tier players that couldnt hack it in the guilds, servers, and competition.If you disagree, kindly list you former name, server, and guild. Accompanied with any other info you may feel makes you good.ANDHowever, I dont spend the bulk of my time at pvp, Because, I am the best shadowknight in the game. Why give that up for some lame title you covet so dear?Darkaren, Guk,NePlusUltra. According to your above posts YOU came to call out people not me...I was sticking up for myself and others that know your full of [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]...Dont twist it Message Edited by ta2demon on 11-15-2006 02:02 AM

11-15-2006, 07:43 PM	#67
Ramglob General Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 96	It is people like Dark that don't have the courage to put his skills against other players on a populated PVP server. Your mother would be ashamed.

11-15-2006, 08:37 PM	#69
Darkaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 52	its that simple.Dekeon is the second best. !But seriouslty tho, I am the bestBTW i do play pvp you idiots. Just not on my sk.

11-15-2006, 08:46 PM	#70
Ramglob General Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 96	No you don't!!!!

11-15-2006, 09:02 PM	#71
Darkaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 52	YES I DO

11-15-2006, 09:25 PM	#72
Ramglob General Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 96	No. I don't think you do!!!! By the way I once tanked the Grolven Chiptooth

11-15-2006, 09:33 PM	#73
Darkaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 52	dood. I so totally wear augurspike.BEST EARRING EVA

11-16-2006, 08:02 AM	#74
Seiden Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 185	Slithery on the oasis server is the Sexiest. I would say the best, but that would be questioning my sexuality.

11-16-2006, 08:21 PM	#75
Darkaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 52	hey gnarkill. if your so adiment that you have no alts. open up your bio, I actually went to look at you today while the servers were down. Funny, you dont have better gear than me, where did that statement come from? Also. Your not a master anymore.

11-16-2006, 08:31 PM	#76
Ramglob General Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 96	It is very obvious that you are envious of Gnarkill Dark..........Just try not to make it so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] obvious!!!!!!!!

11-17-2006, 09:07 PM	#79
Darkaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 52	"This is what I see. Someone from a guild that has their entire guild on the test servers fighting mobs that SoE gives them a blueprint to flaming someone else because . . . .???? Mature eh? I don't see much better than you. He never claimed that he was the best, he's had plenty of others do that for him which says a lot in my eyes."This is what I see. You have no idea what your talking about with regards to testing. If youd like to go into it, feel free to pm or send me a tell in game. Im pretty sick of typing any of it on the boards. People are stupid, plain in simple. Wait, wait, I forgot, we spawned a mender at d jinn master prism, thats the only way we could have been there till 4am. My bad.I flame him because h feels that because hes a pvp sk, hes the best sk in the game. Hes indeed very wrong. I think the fact that he has been sucessful clouded his eyes to interserver compettion that has been going on for two years now. Being a noob to the game, and sucess in general, He ultimately feels hes on top of the game. Its kind of like when a guild clears labs, they have this newly endowed feeling that they are indeed "uber". Then they try something along the lines of the matron, or even cheldrak.Lets not even mention the kinds of benefits being on a pvp server has to raiding. Have you ever looked at the pvp rewards?Im just trying to show a kid that he doesnt really know what hes entering in to yet. Because youve finally done something, yea you have a reason to be proud sure, but the illusion your given that your on top. So very wrong.

11-17-2006, 09:13 PM	#80
Ramglob General Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 96	You spelled Competition wrong!!!! Gnarkill would have never spelled that word wrong.

11-17-2006, 09:18 PM	#81
Ultimatum Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 284	Darkaren wrote:Lets not even mention the kinds of benefits being on a pvp server has to raiding. Have you ever looked at the pvp rewards? Hmmmm do you know ANYTHING about what you are talking about? No? Thought so. Gnarkill is in an Exiled guild...there are no pvp rewards for Exiles. Besides, PvP rewards are just a substitute for raid gear for the people who only PvP...For evey piece of PvP gear there are 10s of raid fabled that are MUCH better. Maybe you could see the bigger picture if you removed your head from your [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. Gnarkill is a very good SK...no doubt one of the best, and the fact that other people attest to it furthers that assumption. He also helps out the SK community, which I have yet to see you do. Keep it up though...maybe someone will make a "Douchiest SK" thread where you could reign supreme :smileyvery-happy: __________________

11-17-2006, 09:34 PM	#82
Ramglob General Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 96	In all seriousness, I believe the reward should go to Gnarkill because he has set the bar in both PVE and PVP. I have done well in PVP but have not accomplished anything in regards to the PVE aspect of the game. Gnarkill has accomplished a lot in both aspects. I have no doubt that there are excellent SK's on the PVE servers. I have no doubt that they all would do very well in PVP for the most part. Since I have not played on a PVE server I can not attest to the skills of other SK's. IMO.....until you fight the best of the other classes in random environments you can not claim to be the top SK. I go with what I know. Squiggy

11-18-2006, 02:38 AM	#83
DUNN Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 253	You guys arguing are so full of yourselves LOL. Look the best Sk is the one who never asked anyone how to do this or that. Rather he helped you noobs with questions and answered them. Since I am sure all you noobs including myself asked for help at one point from another sk you are not it. Besides we ware pink lol PVP isn't any Better than PVE it's just different. All things being equal it comes down to luck and random number generators if you can't see that hen you have issues. take your [Removed for Content] contest to PM's and save us from your ubberness. And before you run and look at my gear and cry wolf i was crafting noob (who ever does it first) Message Edited by DUNN on 11-17-2006 01:40 PM __________________ Dunnott 70 SK Tumaedre 70th Song I wonder how much time i have with this name

11-18-2006, 04:59 AM	#84
gnarkill Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 209	Darkaren wrote: hey gnarkill. if your so adiment that you have no alts. open up your bio, I actually went to look at you today while the servers were down. Funny, you dont have better gear than me, where did that statement come from? Also. Your not a master anymore. Actually you [Removed for Content] those alts are spies parked at contested mobs that never get played....yes my gear is better then yours I wear no lame resist gear and have more mit..And still I have the best overall resists worldwide for SKs See? where are you on that list? Like you said before..you saw gear i logged off in..make an exile come check me out..BTW pvp boards are broken and I am a General not a Master

11-18-2006, 05:09 AM	#85
Kelkirra Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 518	DUNN wrote: You guys arguing are so full of yourselves LOL. Look the best Sk is the one who never asked anyone how to do this or that. Rather he helped you noobs with questions and answered them. Since I am sure all you noobs including myself asked for help at one point from another sk you are not it. Besides we ware pink lol PVP isn't any Better than PVE it's just different. All things being equal it comes down to luck and random number generators if you can't see that hen you have issues. take your [Removed for Content] contest to PM's and save us from your ubberness. And before you run and look at my gear and cry wolf i was crafting noob (who ever does it first) Message Edited by DUNN on 11-17-2006 01:40 PM Just fyi, I'm not a part of the flame as I could honestly care less who believes that my skill as a SK places me in the top or not. I personally do not like to see useless flamming and that's what I saw. Someone claiming to be the best defending his/her self proclaimed title of uberness due to their guild flamming someone else because they're on a different server and a different type of server because. . . .?? I do want to add that asking anyone a question reguarding an aspect of the class you don't understand should not be held against someone and their skill. Personally, I've never asked another SK for help but that's me and my process of understanding a subject/concept/idea/ect. I want to add though that out of all of the names i've seen post here in this thread . . .not a single one of those names have been involved in a thread that I've read/posted in outside of Plant that reguarded SK's and our overall effectivness. . . .and i'm not going to comment on my thoughts about Plant and that subject. The issue with this thread is that it is not specific enough. There are many roles that we can play with our class and that is not taken into consideration. For example, i'm prolly one of the best SK's on my server AT TANKING, but i have yet to find a casting order or method that prevents me from pulling agro at 700DPS on single target and 1K on multiple targets in raids. While I may be considered an awsome tanking SK on my server (not stating this, just using myself as an example ), i'm not exactly the guy to run to for a DPS casting order/AA set-up. If we're going to start an [Removed for Content] thread reguarding who is the best of the best, then we'll have to be a bit more specific or else we're going to wind up with 200 pages of SK's flaming eachother over the different aspects of our class. __________________ Naldir -=New Outriders=-

11-18-2006, 05:20 AM	#86
Kelkirra Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 518	Darkaren wrote: "This is what I see. Someone from a guild that has their entire guild on the test servers fighting mobs that SoE gives them a blueprint to flaming someone else because . . . .???? Mature eh? I don't see much better than you. He never claimed that he was the best, he's had plenty of others do that for him which says a lot in my eyes." This is what I see. You have no idea what your talking about with regards to testing. If youd like to go into it, feel free to pm or send me a tell in game. Im pretty sick of typing any of it on the boards. People are stupid, plain in simple. Wait, wait, I forgot, we spawned a mender at d jinn master prism, thats the only way we could have been there till 4am. My bad. I flame him because h feels that because hes a pvp sk, hes the best sk in the game. Hes indeed very wrong. I think the fact that he has been sucessful clouded his eyes to interserver compettion that has been going on for two years now. Being a noob to the game, and sucess in general, He ultimately feels hes on top of the game. Its kind of like when a guild clears labs, they have this newly endowed feeling that they are indeed "uber". Then they try something along the lines of the matron, or even cheldrak. Lets not even mention the kinds of benefits being on a pvp server has to raiding. Have you ever looked at the pvp rewards? Im just trying to show a kid that he doesnt really know what hes entering in to yet. Because youve finally done something, yea you have a reason to be proud sure, but the illusion your given that your on top. So very wrong. Your replies are just flames. There is nothing constructive behind anything you've stated so far outside of a battle between PvP and PvE servers. I'm sorry, but I have yet to even hear about you or your contribution to SK's in general. Gnarkill on the other hand I have heard plenty about even if he is newer than you may be. If you have a reason to argue that he is not as skilled as you or should not be considered for a board title that others are giving him over yourself, then by all means . . please post away showing us your reasoning. So far everything that you've stated has been opiniated or disproved. This should be a thread for glory for those that have learned their class and helped others along their way in the game, not a flame war because someone's ego was hurt. __________________ Naldir -=New Outriders=-

11-18-2006, 07:27 AM	#87
gnarkill Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 209	DUNN wrote: You guys arguing are so full of yourselves LOL. Look the best Sk is the one who never asked anyone how to do this or that. Rather he helped you noobs with questions and answered them. Since I am sure all you noobs including myself asked for help at one point from another sk you are not it. Besides we ware pink lol I was the second lvl 70 sk on my server (first one quit back in april) then I exiled and was ONLY exile SK..meaning I had no other SK to speak to..I never even asked for help on these SK forums TMK.... I get people that log on to Nagafen lvl a toon up to 10..Then exile him to ask me about SKs and I have no problem helping them out..That in its own right has to mean something....Our guard quit I stepped up to MT and learned to tank everything in the game (minus chel and matron) by myself and the rest is history...I by no means think I am the "best sk" as you can only be so good at anything in this game and alot of SKs have masterd there class...My definiton of the best SKs are people who can do anything that is needed in any situation pvp/pve at the drop of a hat...So in my eyes probably ALOT of us SKs are tied as "top sk" and I will leave it at that Message Edited by ta2demon on 11-17-2006 06:32 PM

11-20-2006, 01:29 PM	#88
ZhouYu Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 140	Darkaren wrote: actually im quite good at pvp. I have a t7 master dirge. Not many accomplish that, and im currently working on a 34 ranger, hes getting pretty close to master. However, I dont spend the bulk of my time at pvp, Because, I am the best shadowknight in the game. Why give that up for some lame title you covet so dear? Darkaren, Guk, NePlusUltra. If we are talking about pvp titles, atleast on the pvp boards I was the only Master SK. Toon name Luxun.

11-20-2006, 04:30 PM	#89
gnarkill Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 209	ZhouYu wrote: Darkaren wrote:actually im quite good at pvp. I have a t7 master dirge. Not many accomplish that,and im currently working on a 34 ranger, hes getting pretty close to master.However, I dont spend the bulk of my time at pvp, Because, I am the best shadowknight in the game. Why give that up for some lame title you covet so dear?Darkaren, Guk,NePlusUltra. If we are talking about pvp titles, atleast on the pvp boards I was the only Master SK. Toon name Luxun. You have made that blatently clear 1000 times...T7 wont be nice to you =)

11-20-2006, 08:28 PM	#90
Darkaren Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 52	you all really make me laugh. I wonder why I ever came back to these boards.I have not, and will not ask for any of your help.Even if I did, id go to a proven sk anyway.DOGMAE FOR PRESIDENT!