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Unread 09-15-2005, 08:06 AM   #1
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I'm sick of these stupid people who dont like the nerf and have nothing positive to say, I got your words right here! GET OVER IT! You don't like it play something else, im sick of these whiners comin out here and tear down everything soe has worked so hard to make, You don't like get over it and play another game otherwise [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot], this shouldn't be EverQuest II this should be WhinerQuest II, for those of you who do complain im going to speak in some common tongue for you: "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" that means bye if you don't speak in whiners tongue.
 
Sorry for the complete flame but these guys are making me mad, and for those of you who aren't complaining and making this "Nerf" work out for us as SKs, Thank you!!
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Unread 09-15-2005, 04:27 PM   #2
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Here here.  It's all good.  No complaints here.  SMILEY
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Unread 09-15-2005, 04:39 PM   #3
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Whining about whining.

I find this ironic and yet poetic at the same time, how sureal.

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Unread 09-15-2005, 04:42 PM   #4
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The revamp was a major upgrade for the SKs. No reason people should be complaining. There are adjustment suggestions, but I have seen only few 'I quit' posts from SKs.
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Unread 09-15-2005, 04:55 PM   #5
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Its all about style, old eq1, new eq2, revamp eq2,   these changes don't suite everyone nor should they or that would just make people themselves just cookie cutters of each other.

But these are open fourms and people are going to say yay or nay constantly, as it suites their preference as it has always been and ever will be as long as there is choice.

I just found it entertaining that sombody actualy spent time to whine about a whinner.

All and all, all I can say is ....

Hooorah for Red Strip Beer!

You are a ugly whiner, very ugly whiner!

And you for whining about whining, Hoorah for responsibility!

 

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Unread 09-15-2005, 06:06 PM   #6
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Ohh then u have seen nothing. U should take a look at the Mystic forums. There u will find a lot of ppl complaining, whining ,threatening and canceling subscriptions. Not without a reason, though. Most ppl think mystics were nerfed greatly without any sane reasons. Seeing the mystic nerf, i'm more then happy with the changes concerning the SK class. This patch is truly a great improvement for SKs.
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Unread 09-15-2005, 06:17 PM   #7
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My Shadowknight feels more dark and sinister now SMILEY. all thats missing is Gather shadows, the Darkness line, and the Self FD line of spells SMILEY

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Unread 09-15-2005, 06:56 PM   #8
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Sasaki Kojiro wrote:

My Shadowknight feels more dark and sinister now SMILEY. all thats missing is Gather shadows, the Darkness line, and the Self FD line of spells SMILEY




Glad to see the turn-around Sasaki... I know sometimes it's hard to trust people on the boards, but we really did mean what we were saying.
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Unread 09-15-2005, 11:49 PM   #9
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Deadjester wrote:

Whining about whining.

I find this ironic and yet poetic at the same time, how sureal.




Haha you need to look in between the lines bud, there is a huge difference between a whine and a flame, and that my friend was a flame
 
That also goes for all you people who think i am whining, there is a huge difference between a waa post and hate post

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Unread 09-16-2005, 12:51 AM   #10
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Unread 09-16-2005, 05:22 AM   #11
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I totally feel for any one that is mage or priest class and inq especially.  But shadow knights have like no right to even open their mouths on this issue.  They were the least effected, and actually gained some bonus.  No sk has the right to whine, or to complain about other classes whining.  We werent hit, so we dont know.  I opened up my sk and there was nothing different, no new spells, all my old [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] is still here...whatever.  I watch my friend open up her Inq and watch half her spells take a flush and get replaced by all kinds of [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] that doesnt involve being an effective healer.  Good luck to them.
 
Honestly I'm still waiting for that game system that allows people to invent new ways of playing, and supports them in how they want to play their character.  Eq games are always about you have to play it exactly like so or otherwise it wont work and you wont fit with the sheep.  And for all the pure healers out there, now they have to stop being pure healers and start doing other things...cool for those who want the challenge, not cool for those who were already having fun as it was.  A real upgrade would have expanded the options for different play styles, not shut the door on play styles already established.
 
 
 
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Unread 09-16-2005, 08:07 AM   #12
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            sk's befor re-vamp were a challange and had broken skill lines and we worked around them and it was very challenging and a hard class to play , seeing that most off our skills are the same and are broken ones were fixed just says again that Sk's were great befor re-vamp If you took the time to learn how to play them you would excel and it was the Player induced Nerfing of Sk's that alot of Sk's couldn't  get into raids and alot had a hard time even finding a group to MT because people bad mouthing Sk's broken this broken that .

           Are we that much better then befor re-vamp are life taps have been fixed and are skills are basicly the same So of course we are giong to be Kicking some damned Other Tank [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] becuase we have had to learn how to play Sk's thru and thru to be a Great tank ,  others such as Guardians just had to be LFG to get a group and they Could suck royal bologna BUT they were a Guard so they could do no wrong.

         Whats so bad about actually having to put in the time to realy learn your character? I don't play EQ2 to sit and watch a movie if i wanted that i would go watch Lord of the rings or Conan the barbarian , I play EQ2 to be constantly working my butt off against whatever im fighting. what fun is Auto attacking mobs ? why would i want to fight something so easy that i just have to sit there and hit Ward/Auto attack and throw in a Pet and let time take over the battle :  ( i would always go solo thigs that would take everything i had to kill them , i would buy Totem of the hawk and Great drink to power re-gain really fast so i could do it all again and Risk death . yeah i could have auto attacked things lower level with no chance of death and gained around tyhe same exp because 4 easy kills =1  hard kill+wait for regain and try again .

         the only real complaint i hear from people is that they have to Work really hard now at doing something LOL welp doesn't that =challenge ?      do you want to work Um kind of hard = kind of a challenge ?(go fight easier mobs then)      No challenge at all =Great exp lol yeah that souds like a TON of fun lol

           Add in the PvP to the equation Work really hard = you might min ,   spam a few buttons and try to Auto attack = you suck and are giong to lose .   i have to say you can tell when you are giong up against a Skilled player in PvP battles are fierce and take longer/ when your fighting someone that Sucks You will totally Pwn them .

Lastly Re-vert Game back to befor Re-vamp and i will tell you " I " know that i wouild have been Pwn'ing all the other Tanks in Duel hands down no question in my mind.  so Now that i have fixed skills and LIfetaps AS i have said befor on live Yeah Imagine if my skills weren't broken and my lifetaps worked i would be a serious force to recon with And now that they are fixed    i don't feel im over powered AT all i feel that my TIME and my Patience and my SKILL has finally paid off 100 fold becuase im the same, my skills are the same, but a couple have been fixed so i am what i should have been 10 months ago  a DPS/Tank that is our discription that is what we do and that is why i chose SK i didnt want to be a Tank/melle class like guard or a Heal/tank like a pally . I have given up Higher HP and also Greater Heals to be more DPs /less Heal and less Tank but my skill lets me be on Par with the Heal/tank and the Tank/Melle classes becuase i have Earned it thru hard determination And Soe stated that these were the way the tanks tanked . and now it is So , they picked those tanks becuase they were Easier to Play and easier to get a group and took Less time to learn and less skill becuase players believed them to be better at it . SOE didn't tell the Player base Befor re-vamp to base Tanking on HP # calculations and BUffs to have 1 end all Tank in game they Said how we would all Tank difrently and we all did and we all still do JUST now it is more Apparent to all the Players that you shouldn't pick a Tank just becuase of there Stats .

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Unread 09-16-2005, 08:32 AM   #13
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I would my hold tongue on championing the bestest tank class until the intial backlash  hits, and sony with their nerf stick is menacing the populace. Crusaders have seen bright days in the past only to seem the squashed by so many other classes envy. Just sayn.
 
That said they have returned a bit of the menace to the class. But as many other threads point out sks are actually in many ways BETTER after the combat changes, and such envy has doomed us before on a matter far more trivial. That said Ill enjoy my lil sk for the moment.
 
Return to your merry lil gnomish rapture, a joke of an sk race if i ever saw one, even worse than trolls.

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Unread 09-16-2005, 10:30 AM   #14
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farbe wrote:
I would my hold tongue on championing the bestest tank class until the intial backlash  hits, and sony with their nerf stick is menacing the populace. Crusaders have seen bright days in the past only to seem the squashed by so many other classes envy. Just sayn.
 
That said they have returned a bit of the menace to the class. But as many other threads point out sks are actually in many ways BETTER after the combat changes, and such envy has doomed us before on a matter far more trivial. That said Ill enjoy my lil sk for the moment.
 
Return to your merry lil gnomish rapture, a joke of an sk race if i ever saw one, even worse than trolls.

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Haha, i hope you're not saying im a gnome, and you completely misread my post i wasnt saying sks are bad, im saying its getting really old to listen to these [Removed for Content] that are complaining about the SK changes when everyone else (Including me) are enjoying them, and i understand that its your opinion and that you can have, but what im saying is im getting sick of people threatening to go back to eq because we got "nerfed" and i am sick of listening to it so i just set a warning, put your opinion in, that i don't mind but if you are going to threaten to go back to eq, dont be surprised if you see a huge flame from me, all i got to say is if you want to go back to eq over some stupid nerf then go, we dont need a John Madden play-by-play
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Unread 09-16-2005, 05:06 PM   #15
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Well I guess Gnomy that I will just have to burn in hell then.

But I have this to say

whooorah for Red Strip Beer!

Your a very ugly SK, very Ugly!

Drink Red Strip!

You are now a BEAUTIFUL SK!

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Unread 09-16-2005, 08:39 PM   #16
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I find it quite interesting that the person who started this thread is being AGREED with and feels he has to defend his thoughts. It seems as though we all agree SKs are better now than before.

 

Final thoughts

Stop defending yourself, you posted a post that was MEANT for reaction and did sound like whining about other people, and just so you know when someone reads a post here they read the words in print, not the empty spaces in between the lines.

 

Sks are better now IMO, we shall see if this lasts.

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Unread 09-16-2005, 10:20 PM   #17
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Sarated wrote:

I find it quite interesting that the person who started this thread is being AGREED with and feels he has to defend his thoughts. It seems as though we all agree SKs are better now than before.

 

Final thoughts

Stop defending yourself, you posted a post that was MEANT for reaction and did sound like whining about other people, and just so you know when someone reads a post here they read the words in print, not the empty spaces in between the lines.

 

Sks are better now IMO, we shall see if this lasts.

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I'm not defending myself, just letting the [Removed for Content] know im not whining, im flaming, huge difference
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Unread 09-17-2005, 10:32 AM   #18
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all I know is my heals actually make a difference now, so im a happy camper
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Unread 09-18-2005, 12:34 PM   #19
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Aye, finally think our Lifetaps are worth casting, before they wheren't.  I on the whole have been very pleased with the changes, took some getting used to but find it a lot of fun.

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Unread 09-18-2005, 06:24 PM   #20
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After a a few adjustments to play style, I am enjoying my SK and really don't have any complaints about the changes.  Of course, I went through endless rounds of changes to my skald in DAoC and stuck with her until just recently, I would just adjust my play style and then go back out and fight.  In the end I am enjoying EQ2 pre-patch and post-patch.
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Unread 09-19-2005, 02:50 PM   #21
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I love absolutely every change, i have zero complaints, if for a second I thought one thing was bad, the overall greatness of our class surpasses any feeling of doubt.
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Unread 09-19-2005, 07:51 PM   #22
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Well, don't need to go into deep discussion about what I do and don't like about SKs pre or post revamp, but how I deal with whiner posts?  If I get the feeling that I'm reading a post that is simply whining, and there is no useful info in the post or unique/insightful POV being exporessed, I can usually tell a sentence or two into it.  If I get the feeling that a post is about to waste my time, I don't finish reading it.  People can whine all they want - doesn't bother me.  They're free to whine, and I'm free to ignore.  =)
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Unread 09-20-2005, 04:53 PM   #23
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unholy blessing has a silly long casting time, and my SK's dps isnt that great(any fighter class cpet pallys out dps me). i now spam my pet like a combat art(thats pretty lame). they nerfed agro kiting completely, in addition to makin wrath not worth casting in combat. they took a high dmg attack(plauge sword) and turned into a buff, essentially takin two attacks away from our arsenal. We cant buff group poison and disease saves anymore(unholy order), atleast we could alittle before. There still isnt a NEED for sk's in general at raids or even to have in a group. I dont see the cause for celebration, HUZZAH we can tap... I cant get excited about something that we shoulda had from the start. Did we get hurt? na not really. Did we get helped? again na not really. Basically the revamp was a wash to us in general. The class is what it is, completely superfluous. If you enjoy it, rock it like a rockstar, if not then move along. However sayin we rule now is a bit of truth strechin.
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