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psubull · 12-09-2004, 01:46 PM

Here are my favorite group setups

Favorite group setup for me tanking: Bruiser (me), defiler, troubadour/dirge, warlock/wizard, inquisitor/coercer, shadowknight
I like going with me as a tank, defiler there to do his wards, troubadour is preferred over dirge for the proc but either is fine, warlock over wizard because of proc, inquisitor for backup healing or coercer to keep me breezed, and a SK for a backup tank. All these are groups I have found to work best with bruiser tanking.

Favorite group setup: SK (tank), Bruiser (myself), Templar, Inquisitor, Wizard, Any of the following: Brigand/Swashbuckler/Assassin/Wizard/Warlock/Dirge.
If there isn't a defiler in group, I would GLADLY give up the tanking position at 27 and beyond to a SK JUST for the SK's ward. A guardian may fill the spot just fine, but I like to group with SKs cause they do more DMG with HT. The templar/inquisitor combo kicks **mods 4 teh win!!1!**, and should be tried over two of the same subclass, such as templar/templar or inquisx2. I like a wizard in this setup just because the DDs do their part. Groups of normal MOBs (ones without + or ++) or below will fall in seconds with the combined power of sk/wiz/bruiser. To add insult to injury, and prepare for + or ++ yellows, oranges and reds, add ANY one of those classes listed. I haven't had a ranger get to my level yet, so I'll wait to try one of them in this spot. Not sure about troubadour in this situation, just seems that the Dirge is the better choice in group for once.

Overall, I would rather not tank, just to utilize all of my abilities.

What are your favorite groups?

(no flames on my choice of group. These are the ones that work for me so far into the 30s.)

phd19 · 12-10-2004, 07:40 AM

Brawler, Warrior, Healer (Cleric), Shaman, Sorcerer, Scout

Ee · 12-10-2004, 11:22 AM

You guys need to look at the buffs you get from the different priests, my 26 Fury using Adept1 Wildspirits and APP1 (no upgrade yet) Savagery can increase agility by 25+, no other priest can do this. Of course HoT may not be the healing style of choice for bruisers as tanks - but if you put a monk/bruiser in the group as the MT, a fury makes them far more capable SMILEY

That being ssaid, my favorite group setup would be...

Shaman

Druid

Guardian

Brawler

Warlock

Coercer

Jezekie · 12-10-2004, 07:41 PM

The prefered would probably be Bruiser, Fury or Defiler, Dirge, 3x Wizard. Or Bruiser, Fury, Enchanter, Assassin, 2x wizard.Never two healers.Atleast that's close to the optimal group setups in my opinion.

Message Edited by Jezekiell on 12-10-2004 03:42 PM

psubull · 12-10-2004, 08:48 PM

Eeko wrote:

Shaman

Druid

Guardian

Brawler

Warlock

Coercer

While this is a good setup if you want the brawler to tank, I wouldn't recommend a guardian in a group unless the guardian was tanking. And at 27, a SK tanks better than a guardian due to the self-ward. Maybe if you let the brawler tank in this setup, you can trade the guardian out for a zerker or something with more DPS, possibly a scout of some sort.

Phr · 12-10-2004, 09:00 PM

BruiserDefiler4xDPS'Nuff said SMILEY

Dovifat · 12-10-2004, 09:05 PM

Jezekiell wrote:The prefered would probably be Bruiser, Fury or Defiler, Dirge, 3x Wizard. Or Bruiser, Fury, Enchanter, Assassin, 2x wizard.Never two healers.Atleast that's close to the optimal group setups in my opinion.
Message Edited by Jezekiell on 12-10-2004 03:42 PM

For the usual xping i prefer that setup as well, how many rogue/pred vs. wizards depends on the ratio of ^^ vs. groups of ^or non ^. If you are going against something particularly tough, a second healer would come handy. That's only really worth it for some very good reward quests ( or access quests ), otherwise you are better off leaving the stuff you cant take with one ( competent ) healer for now.

Ee · 12-10-2004, 11:42 PM

psubullet wrote:

Eeko wrote:

Shaman

Druid

Guardian

Brawler

Warlock

Coercer

While this is a good setup if you want the brawler to tank, I wouldn't recommend a guardian in a group unless the guardian was tanking. And at 27, a SK tanks better than a guardian due to the self-ward. Maybe if you let the brawler tank in this setup, you can trade the guardian out for a zerker or something with more DPS, possibly a scout of some sort.

Sorry, I should have stated that the Guardian is the MT in this group. Being a healer, I do not think crusaders MT better than guardians - even more so when there is a Shaman in the group (Shaman wards > Crusader wards - and they dont stack). I should probably split this list into two different groups, then it will work better depending on the situation.

Shaman

Druid

Guardian (MT)

Rogue (DD)

Warlock (DD)

Coercer (CC)

or

Shaman

Druid

Guardian (MT)

Brawler (Backup Tank, DD)

Warlock (DD)

Wizard (DD)

Without CC, a second Fighter type is good to have incase aggro needs to be "shared", I would pick a brawler because of the ability to DD - if the shaman was a cleric I would switch in an SK for the wards.

Anyone that says a solid group does not need two healers has never done any "hardcore" exping. With two healers in a group you can go places that will offer so much more exp than any spot a single priest group could hunt.

Dreven88 · 12-11-2004, 09:29 AM

Actually for a Bruiser or a Monk, the best Priest class is a Shamon/Mystic.

-Cleric subs wards stack better with Tank classes (AC of tank used before healing ward)

-Shamon subs wards stack better with Bruiser/Monks because defense is calucated before dmg is done to the ward

--Shamons have the best NPC debuffs aside from being OK healers and dmg warders. (example: NPC's slowed)

Having two healers on a team is the best

Wizards by far have better Nukes but Warlocks have better DoT's and better buffs, espically to toons that deal weapon dmg. I honestly believe that a fighter combined with a Warlock is a much better team than a fighter combined with a Wizard.

Best Team requires:

1) Shamon/Mystic

2) 2nd healer class Druid or Cleric

3) Warlock

4) Main Tank

5) open

6) open

Enchanters are the best party add if a group as a whole knows how to play with then. Warlocks stack well with Fighter classes and Enchanters because of their ability to add weapon dmg.

Any High Dmg record on a server probably came from a fighter class buffed by a Warlock. SMILEY

And of course two Wizards will not get stacks from their DoT's, but a Wizard's DoT's do stack with a Warlocks DoT's.

Hmmm...

1) Shamon / Mystic

2) Cleric Class

3) Main Tank

4) Wizard

5) Warrior

6) Bruiser / Monk -OR- Enchanter

I guess if I had to go with the best group I would do this:

1) Shamon / Mystic

2) Cleric Class

3) Guardian

4) Enchanter

5) Bruiser -or- Monk

6) Warlock

Message Edited by Dreven88 on 12-10-2004 08:35 PM

Oidan · 12-12-2004, 03:00 AM

Guardian/SK (MA)

Bruiser (myself)

Healer (dont matter to me)

Chanter

Scout type

Would change out 1 scout for a Nuker/Dotter type.

Or Myself tanking

Defiler

Chanter

and 3 dps, 1 being a scout type.

The best grp tho are my friends who are in my guild and we are all on TS or they are at my house. Cant beat that with a stick.

Message Edited by Oidan on 12-11-2004 02:06 PM

justfr · 12-12-2004, 08:22 PM

Guardian - MTScout - dps evacscout - dps evacenchanter - mezzerShammy - ward , slowDruid - Healer , buffsWhere's the bruiser? well i dont think we deserve to be in my ideal grp. SMILEY

12-09-2004, 01:46 PM	#1
psubull General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 370	Here are my favorite group setups Favorite group setup for me tanking: Bruiser (me), defiler, troubadour/dirge, warlock/wizard, inquisitor/coercer, shadowknight I like going with me as a tank, defiler there to do his wards, troubadour is preferred over dirge for the proc but either is fine, warlock over wizard because of proc, inquisitor for backup healing or coercer to keep me breezed, and a SK for a backup tank. All these are groups I have found to work best with bruiser tanking. Favorite group setup: SK (tank), Bruiser (myself), Templar, Inquisitor, Wizard, Any of the following: Brigand/Swashbuckler/Assassin/Wizard/Warlock/Dirge. If there isn't a defiler in group, I would GLADLY give up the tanking position at 27 and beyond to a SK JUST for the SK's ward. A guardian may fill the spot just fine, but I like to group with SKs cause they do more DMG with HT. The templar/inquisitor combo kicks mods 4 teh win!!1!, and should be tried over two of the same subclass, such as templar/templar or inquisx2. I like a wizard in this setup just because the DDs do their part. Groups of normal MOBs (ones without + or ++) or below will fall in seconds with the combined power of sk/wiz/bruiser. To add insult to injury, and prepare for + or ++ yellows, oranges and reds, add ANY one of those classes listed. I haven't had a ranger get to my level yet, so I'll wait to try one of them in this spot. Not sure about troubadour in this situation, just seems that the Dirge is the better choice in group for once. Overall, I would rather not tank, just to utilize all of my abilities. What are your favorite groups? (no flames on my choice of group. These are the ones that work for me so far into the 30s.) __________________

12-10-2004, 11:22 AM	#3
Ee Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 43	You guys need to look at the buffs you get from the different priests, my 26 Fury using Adept1 Wildspirits and APP1 (no upgrade yet) Savagery can increase agility by 25+, no other priest can do this. Of course HoT may not be the healing style of choice for bruisers as tanks - but if you put a monk/bruiser in the group as the MT, a fury makes them far more capable That being ssaid, my favorite group setup would be... Shaman Druid Guardian Brawler Warlock Coercer

12-10-2004, 07:41 PM	#4
Jezekie General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,136	The prefered would probably be Bruiser, Fury or Defiler, Dirge, 3x Wizard. Or Bruiser, Fury, Enchanter, Assassin, 2x wizard.Never two healers.Atleast that's close to the optimal group setups in my opinion. Message Edited by Jezekiell on 12-10-2004 03:42 PM __________________ ---------------------------- Retired

12-10-2004, 08:48 PM	#5
psubull General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 370	Eeko wrote: Shaman Druid Guardian Brawler Warlock Coercer While this is a good setup if you want the brawler to tank, I wouldn't recommend a guardian in a group unless the guardian was tanking. And at 27, a SK tanks better than a guardian due to the self-ward. Maybe if you let the brawler tank in this setup, you can trade the guardian out for a zerker or something with more DPS, possibly a scout of some sort. __________________

12-10-2004, 09:05 PM	#7
Dovifat Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 171	Jezekiell wrote:The prefered would probably be Bruiser, Fury or Defiler, Dirge, 3x Wizard. Or Bruiser, Fury, Enchanter, Assassin, 2x wizard.Never two healers.Atleast that's close to the optimal group setups in my opinion. Message Edited by Jezekiell on 12-10-2004 03:42 PM For the usual xping i prefer that setup as well, how many rogue/pred vs. wizards depends on the ratio of ^^ vs. groups of ^or non ^. If you are going against something particularly tough, a second healer would come handy. That's only really worth it for some very good reward quests ( or access quests ), otherwise you are better off leaving the stuff you cant take with one ( competent ) healer for now.

12-10-2004, 07:40 AM	#2
phd19 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4	Brawler, Warrior, Healer (Cleric), Shaman, Sorcerer, Scout

12-10-2004, 09:00 PM	#6
Phr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	BruiserDefiler4xDPS'Nuff said

12-10-2004, 11:42 PM	#8
Ee Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 43	psubullet wrote: Eeko wrote: Shaman Druid Guardian Brawler Warlock Coercer While this is a good setup if you want the brawler to tank, I wouldn't recommend a guardian in a group unless the guardian was tanking. And at 27, a SK tanks better than a guardian due to the self-ward. Maybe if you let the brawler tank in this setup, you can trade the guardian out for a zerker or something with more DPS, possibly a scout of some sort. Sorry, I should have stated that the Guardian is the MT in this group. Being a healer, I do not think crusaders MT better than guardians - even more so when there is a Shaman in the group (Shaman wards > Crusader wards - and they dont stack). I should probably split this list into two different groups, then it will work better depending on the situation. Shaman Druid Guardian (MT) Rogue (DD) Warlock (DD) Coercer (CC) or Shaman Druid Guardian (MT) Brawler (Backup Tank, DD) Warlock (DD) Wizard (DD) Without CC, a second Fighter type is good to have incase aggro needs to be "shared", I would pick a brawler because of the ability to DD - if the shaman was a cleric I would switch in an SK for the wards. Anyone that says a solid group does not need two healers has never done any "hardcore" exping. With two healers in a group you can go places that will offer so much more exp than any spot a single priest group could hunt.

12-11-2004, 09:29 AM	#9
Dreven88 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	Actually for a Bruiser or a Monk, the best Priest class is a Shamon/Mystic. -Cleric subs wards stack better with Tank classes (AC of tank used before healing ward) -Shamon subs wards stack better with Bruiser/Monks because defense is calucated before dmg is done to the ward --Shamons have the best NPC debuffs aside from being OK healers and dmg warders. (example: NPC's slowed) Having two healers on a team is the best Wizards by far have better Nukes but Warlocks have better DoT's and better buffs, espically to toons that deal weapon dmg. I honestly believe that a fighter combined with a Warlock is a much better team than a fighter combined with a Wizard. Best Team requires: 1) Shamon/Mystic 2) 2nd healer class Druid or Cleric 3) Warlock 4) Main Tank 5) open 6) open Enchanters are the best party add if a group as a whole knows how to play with then. Warlocks stack well with Fighter classes and Enchanters because of their ability to add weapon dmg. Any High Dmg record on a server probably came from a fighter class buffed by a Warlock. And of course two Wizards will not get stacks from their DoT's, but a Wizard's DoT's do stack with a Warlocks DoT's. Hmmm... 1) Shamon / Mystic 2) Cleric Class 3) Main Tank 4) Wizard 5) Warrior 6) Bruiser / Monk -OR- Enchanter I guess if I had to go with the best group I would do this: 1) Shamon / Mystic 2) Cleric Class 3) Guardian 4) Enchanter 5) Bruiser -or- Monk 6) Warlock Message Edited by Dreven88 on 12-10-2004 08:35 PM

12-12-2004, 03:00 AM	#10
Oidan Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 271	Guardian/SK (MA) Bruiser (myself) Healer (dont matter to me) Chanter Scout type Scout type Would change out 1 scout for a Nuker/Dotter type. Or Myself tanking Defiler Chanter and 3 dps, 1 being a scout type. The best grp tho are my friends who are in my guild and we are all on TS or they are at my house. Cant beat that with a stick. Message Edited by Oidan on 12-11-2004 02:06 PM __________________ Taryn 80 Warlock Tarin 64 Dirge Entrepid 37 Defiler Thaylin 61 Fury

12-12-2004, 08:22 PM	#11
justfr Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 57	Guardian - MTScout - dps evacscout - dps evacenchanter - mezzerShammy - ward , slowDruid - Healer , buffsWhere's the bruiser? well i dont think we deserve to be in my ideal grp.