Max DPS AA lines?

[Kaleyen]

My main is a pally but I fun around with a monk from time to time...able to do damage is just awesome.Anyways, looking to maximize my DPS using the AA lines, which is the way to go here?  I would assume 4-4-8 down the INT line being one of them.

[atreyu]

Max dps i would go

4 - 4- 8 down sta wis and int

the baton attack in agi line i heard was nice on the cast timers so /shrug

you can do the last one in the int line, its nice for soloing but not really good for raids

 

i went 4 - 4 - 8   sta   4 - 4 - 8 -8 - 1 int

waiting for a respec lol =/

[WaachBack]

This is my PvP / DPS spec.

4/5/8 STA

4/8/8/4/1 INT

[Gaige]

448 wis/sta/int is the best dps build if your weapons don't suck.

[KazzySoJaz]

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Gaige wrote:

448 wis/sta/int is the best dps build if your weapons don't suck.

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If your weaps suck, 4/4/8 str, int, sta

[Kaleyen]

T7 legendary with about a 47 DR on them both...good or sucky?

[Kainsei]

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Kaleyen wrote:T7 legendary with about a 47 DR on them both...good or sucky?

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Sucky :smileyindifferent: . As long as you don't have 60 DR weapons, stick with the str line.

[Kaleyen]

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Kainsei wrote:

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Kaleyen wrote:T7 legendary with about a 47 DR on them both...good or sucky?

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Sucky :smileyindifferent: . As long as you don't have 60 DR weapons, stick with the str line.

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Good to know...the stuff I have is dropped from instances, for a non-raider what weapons can I look for?  Keep in mind this is an alt that doesn't get much time.

[WaachBack]

If you didn't already exile him, pvp weapons are just about the best in game, even better then most of the raid dropped weapons.

[Gandelff]

2 questions

1 - whats DR?

2 - what and where do you get the xile weapons?

[wazzaratio]

Why 4 - 4 - 8   sta? I dont see much use in it. I hardly ever use range, only on raids, it doesnt seam worth it to me?

[Gungo]

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wazzaratio wrote:
Why 4 - 4 - 8   sta? I dont see much use in it. I hardly ever use range, only on raids, it doesnt seam worth it to me?

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The 24% 281+ peirce dam proc actually provides one of the best dps boosts. and the stamina debuff range attack is highly underestimated. Stamina debuffs on raid mobs drop a raid mobs Total Hp by a large margin. Taranix for example w mystic defiler brawler stamina debuffs can reduce his total hp's by ~4-5 million HP.

[Cottonba]

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wazzaratio wrote:
Why 4 - 4 - 8   sta? I dont see much use in it. I hardly ever use range, only on raids, it doesnt seam worth it to me?

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The 24% 281+ peirce dam proc actually provides one of the best dps boosts. and the stamina debuff range attack is highly underestimated. Stamina debuffs on raid mobs drop a raid mobs Total Hp by a large margin. Taranix for example w mystic defiler brawler stamina debuffs can reduce his total hp's by ~4-5 million HP.

Gungo Boom lvl 70 Troll Bruiser
Crushbone server

 

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Reduce his Hp's by 4 to 5 million?  That's insane seeing how everytime I've fought him he had 2 to 2.5 million hp's and your saying we're reducing his hp's by over 100% ?  I love people who don't know what their talking about and just make stuff up while posting.  Thanks for giving me a laugh.

 

Cottonball 70 Bruiser of Hero

Oasis Server

[Gungo]

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Cottonball wrote:

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wazzaratio wrote:
Why 4 - 4 - 8   sta? I dont see much use in it. I hardly ever use range, only on raids, it doesnt seam worth it to me?

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The 24% 281+ peirce dam proc actually provides one of the best dps boosts. and the stamina debuff range attack is highly underestimated. Stamina debuffs on raid mobs drop a raid mobs Total Hp by a large margin. Taranix for example w mystic defiler brawler stamina debuffs can reduce his total hp's by ~4-5 million HP.

Gungo Boom lvl 70 Troll Bruiser
Crushbone server

 

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Reduce his Hp's by 4 to 5 million?  That's insane seeing how everytime I've fought him he had 2 to 2.5 million hp's and your saying we're reducing his hp's by over 100% ?  I love people who don't know what their talking about and just make stuff up while posting.  Thanks for giving me a laugh.

 

Cottonball 70 Bruiser of Hero

Oasis Server

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06/28/06
Allies: (03:15) 1802121 | 9241,65

Tarinax dead

Taranix has aprox 2million HP's with stamina debuffs cna drop his hp's by 500,000 or more. I was wrong wih my number but it is stil a substantial drop in hp's when stamina debuffs can drop 1/5 a raid mobs hp's. You although are still an [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].  

[KazzySoJaz]

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Gungo wrote:

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Cottonball wrote:

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wazzaratio wrote:

Why 4 - 4 - 8   sta? I dont see much use in it. I hardly ever use range, only on raids, it doesnt seam worth it to me?

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The 24% 281+ peirce dam proc actually provides one of the best dps boosts. and the stamina debuff range attack is highly underestimated. Stamina debuffs on raid mobs drop a raid mobs Total Hp by a large margin. Taranix for example w mystic defiler brawler stamina debuffs can reduce his total hp's by ~4-5 million HP.

Gungo Boom lvl 70 Troll BruiserCrushbone server

 

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Reduce his Hp's by 4 to 5 million?  That's insane seeing how everytime I've fought him he had 2 to 2.5 million hp's and your saying we're reducing his hp's by over 100% ?  I love people who don't know what their talking about and just make stuff up while posting.  Thanks for giving me a laugh.

 

Cottonball 70 Bruiser of Hero

Oasis Server

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06/28/06Allies: (03:15) 1802121 | 9241,65

Tarinax dead

Taranix has aprox 2million HP's with stamina debuffs cna drop his hp's by 500,000 or more. I was wrong wih my number but it is stil a substantial drop in hp's when stamina debuffs can drop 1/5 a raid mobs hp's. You although are still an [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].  

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He is just mad cause he hasn't downed big T yet, anyways back on topic ladies.

[Illustrious]

Looking for advice myself here for AA line also DPS wise.

 

I got some quite nice weapons, Marrs Fist, Wurmy, 63dr calamity, skewer and some lesser DW and also got the flapping staff and the nice Vraskin Club 2 handers.

 

ATM i am 4,4,8,8 in both Int and Sta which i think is pretty good for DPS with the extra avoid of Deflect and parry also.

 

If i were to go 4,4,8 in wis,sta and int as has been suggested what sort of dps boost would i get? I can get a pretty consistent 1100k dps or so and up to 1250dps on some of the nice easy single target dragons like harla or pantrilla etc in a good raid grp (for good raid grp read 100% haste + 100% dps buff). My question is, how much extra dps on top of that would i likely get with respecing 4,4,8 sta,int and wis? any people out there got a good idea? and also what would eb best weapons for those aa be? atm i tend to prefer DW especially wurmy on draconics, but ive heard that the vraskin club can be the best dps weapon in game for brawlers with the right aa set up.

 

I did try that line before (and many other combos) but had pretty crappy weapons then so hard to compare. Im loathe to go swapping AA about willy nilly now though unless i know what to expect as its like 10pp per respec. The only other alternative to this im thinking of for extra dps is to go 4,4,4,8 int just for the crane flock and use the rest on Int and sta.

Message Edited by Illustrious on 09-20-2006 03:09 PM

[GinjiGunso]

I am new to the game.  Can someone help me with some english here so I can follow along? 448?  what does that mean.  sorry for the noob question.-ginji

[Zenith]

If you're dual wielding why tap the wisdom line? The tiny bit of extra wisdom doesn't help that much with resists and the other abilities don't seem to useful.

[Morrolan V]

4/4/8 refers to the number of point in each step on that branch of the AA tree.

 

The reason to go 4/4/8 on wisdom is to max out crane twirl which is a very nice DPS ability.

[Zenith]

What is Cane Twirl at 8, looks like it would just be an 8% proc do for 220-367 dmg on an area. 8% isn't very high, my 5% proc on my Calamaities only goes off once a figth if I'm lucky.

[Kinless]

Until last week I had kept Kinz at Stam 8/4/5/8 and Int 4/4/8/8 . My best ever parse in T7 raid was 1430 with this build. Had Assasin, Dirge, Coercer, Defiler in group for added procs / dps buffs Last week I decided to try to see what Sta 4/4/8 , Wis 4/4/8, Int 4/5( yeah I know....misclick )/ 8  would yield. In T7 raid with Defiler, Inquis, Coercer buffs i topped 1500 on a few fights, and was over 1400 for most all fights. So I would say that this is an optimum DPS build and can only imagine what the assasin poison proc and dirge procs would have yeilded.  Not yet sold if I will stay with this build, but I will give it at least a few more weeks to test it out. Kinz

[Morrolan V]

Seems clear that 4/4/8 Sta/Int/Wis will result in max average DPS over time.

 

I had been running 4/4/8 Int and 4/4/8/4/1 Wis for Crane Flock.  My reasoning was that Crane Flock allowed me to maximize my DPS on certain encounters when it was really needed, at a small cost of DPS on average.  Thoughts?

 

Also, my current build is 4/5/8 Sta, 4/4/8 Wis/Int.  Give the VERY large impact of properly applied Sta debuffs, might it be better to go 4/8/5 Sta, particularly to avoid resists of Mantis Star on raids?

[Illustrious]

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What is Cane Twirl at 8, looks like it would just be an 8% proc do for 220-367 dmg on an area. 8% isn't very high, my 5% proc on my Calamaities only goes off once a figth if I'm lucky.

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The damage rises also along with the level its more like 8% proc for 400-600 at level 8. It does around 3-7% of your total damage on a longish fight at level 8 depending if its a single mob or a larger encounter.

[Weizen Heimer]

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Kainsei wrote:

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Kaleyen wrote:
T7 legendary with about a 47 DR on them both...good or sucky?

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Sucky :smileyindifferent: .
As long as you don't have 60 DR weapons, stick with the str line.

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How does this compare for a 2H? Does that mean the 2H needs to be 120DR?

[Kainsei]

I don't think so. The best 2h staff has a damage rating of 110 or something like that. I remember someone saying that the combined DR of dual wield weapons had to be better than the DR of a similar 2h weapon,  due to the loss of autoattacks when dual wielding. Not sure though.