How is your avoidance?

Jeffmaster · 08-31-2006, 10:29 PM

Hi I'm curious to see how high a brawler can take their avoidance...

Microphage · 08-31-2006, 10:31 PM

Self bufffed, defensive stance, around 71%. I've seen it as high as 74% in some groups. 80% seems so far away...

Jeffmaster · 08-31-2006, 10:47 PM

pretty good!!

Is 80% possible

as a rogue I can manage to get up to 60-65% I think

RyanTSi · 08-31-2006, 10:58 PM

self buffed with no potions im at 74.3 in def. highest i usually get when i tank in groups is 82%

arachnidor · 08-31-2006, 11:47 PM

82% is awsome...

My monk just hit 38, and my avaidance dropped. It didn't drop dramatically but about 5 points. Does this mean I need to try and increase my AGI?

JudyJudy · 09-01-2006, 12:21 AM

Usually self buffed with standard equipment and no potions, I'm at 72.4%. When in groups with TV (master I), I average between 74-75%. HIghest I've ever been was 78% and some change.

Kinless · 09-01-2006, 12:33 AM

With TV I can get 74.7% right now, with my normal gear. Add Potions, Dirge, Druids, etc buffs highest I have seen was 83.? %

Tamo · 09-01-2006, 01:05 AM

Highest I have been is 84%

Dirge and Guardian FTW :smileyvery-happy:

thats in Def stance with TV and no potions

Microphage · 09-01-2006, 01:08 AM

arachnidor wrote:

82% is awsome...

My monk just hit 38, and my avaidance dropped. It didn't drop dramatically but about 5 points. Does this mean I need to try and increase my AGI?

The the effectiveness components of avoidance, mitigation, and resistance, are all based upon the level of the mob you are facing, but they are reported as what they would be if you were facing a white conned mob. Your avoidance didnt really get worse, its just that the even con mobs are now a level higher.

cptvimes · 09-01-2006, 01:42 AM

I'm curious what level the previous posters were... As a 56 Monk, I've not seen my avoidance much above the low to mid 50's solo. 80's!? That's pretty crazy.... Something to shoot for I suppose....

Cirth_Beer · 09-01-2006, 02:20 AM

solo in def stance (adept3) i'm at 68.8% ( or 69.8 if i change my hooluk hat instead of the relic one)(lvl 70 in legendary (mainly claymore stuff) and a bit of fabled (relic and weapons) but i have a low agi : 280 while str/sta at 420+ and aa build is 4481sta and 44881 in int)

Bladewind · 09-01-2006, 02:43 AM

I self buff to 72-74 depending on what I have equipped. In groups I have hit 80 or so. I can imagine with a bard, warden (with dust storm), and guardian, one could hit 85ish. It becomes pretty anelastic around 70-71.

The defense bonuses from AAs in addition to t7 equipment, which has higher and mroe frequent defense mods compared to lower tier equipment, are responsible for the big increase in avoidance n t7 brawlers relative to lower tiers..

Message Edited by Bladewind on 08-31-2006 05:30 PM

Tauch · 09-01-2006, 10:31 AM

In my tanking gear I'm at 71.5% avoidance.If I really, really wanted to, I could get to 77.3% by switching gear out and using agi hex dolls, agi potion, and agi food.But past curiosity's sake I don't think I would ever do that. =)

Gaige · 09-01-2006, 12:33 PM

As a bruiser my highest solo is 77.8% I think, and 84% in a good group. I need more deflection SMILEY

Traxor789 · 09-01-2006, 07:58 PM

I got my 36 monk , with a troub and a dirge buffing me to 76.9%

and i can kill anything realy with the root mit increase-- this is with horable jewelry so agility isnt maxed but it is high

with potions im sure i could get it to 80% or higher

laatikko · 09-01-2006, 09:06 PM

My highest in grp was 84.3% according to persona screen. I was missing 1 point from parry (had 419) but other than that i was capped and my race is human thou I can't remeber if i have any traits for it (prolly not). Some other race might be able to get 85%+ but dont think it's possible for me (yeah I know I don't know what other get as their traits, might not). Solo (without TV) I'm usually around 70-74% depending on gear/weps equipped. Pauzze

Mala-Shea · 09-01-2006, 09:27 PM

74.3% in my solo gear and M1 defensive stance

The Mo · 09-03-2006, 12:10 AM

70-74% solo depending on how far I am in the level.

KazzySoJaz · 09-03-2006, 01:48 AM

Highest I have seen is 78 % in a nice group setup. I have not even touched PoA yet on my Claymore though, so hard to tell what I can be capable of.

Gandelff · 09-03-2006, 07:36 AM

what determins you Avoid? agi or something else i can figure that one out.

Gaige · 09-03-2006, 12:12 PM

Deflection, parry, defense and agility. In that order.

KazzySoJaz · 09-03-2006, 02:27 PM

Gandelff wrote:

what determins you Avoid? agi or something else i can figure that one out.

*** Stat / Skill - Effects ***

10 Skill Points of Base Defense add 2.50% To Avoidance

10 Skill Points of Deflect add 2.00% To Avoidance

10 Skill Points of Parry add 1.5% To Avoidance

10 STR add ??? Power @ Lvl 70 ( Formula ??? )

10 STR add ??? Damage @ LvL 70 ( Formula ??? )

10 AGI add 0.3% Avoidance @ LvL 70 ( Is This exponentially ? --> 100-200 ; 200-300 Effect smaller )

10 STA add 50 Hit Points @ LvL 70

10 INT add ??? Dmg to Procs @ LvL 70 ( Formula ??? )

10 WIS add 30-40 To all ResistsStolen from: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=15510

Message Edited by KazzySoJazzy on 09-03-2006 03:27 AM

Perfidiou · 09-05-2006, 04:10 PM

I reach 76% avoidance solo without potions if I aim for it. but I usually switch out some gear to balance more and land around 74.6-75% self buffed, without potions.

last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol

Gaige · 09-05-2006, 08:14 PM

Perfidious1 wrote:

last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol

Would've liked to see that stats page on that, as I can't see how it is possible. I think the ceiling is 85% with 420 to all avoidance skills and 510 agility.

/shrug

KazzySoJaz · 09-05-2006, 08:39 PM

Gaige wrote:

Perfidious1 wrote:

last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol

Would've liked to see that stats page on that, as I can't see how it is possible. I think the ceiling is 85% with 420 to all avoidance skills and 510 agility.

/shrug

Well technically 510 isnt the cap is it?

(70*7)+starting stat = cap isnt it?

Having said that though I doubt the small diff in starting agl on any race could make up for 1% avoidance *shrugs*

Perfidiou · 09-05-2006, 08:45 PM

Gaige wrote:

Perfidious1 wrote:

last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol

Would've liked to see that stats page on that, as I can't see how it is possible. I think the ceiling is 85% with 420 to all avoidance skills and 510 agility.

/shrug

I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink:

Gaige · 09-06-2006, 12:53 AM

Perfidious1 wrote:
I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink:

Cool stuff.

Riktiktiche · 09-06-2006, 04:35 AM

well my starting str as ratonga in 10 but dropping str below 510 drops mele skill damage so cap seems to be 510 regardless

laatikko · 09-08-2006, 11:28 AM

Gaige wrote:

Perfidious1 wrote:
I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink:

Cool stuff.

I'd like to see that too. I find it hard to believe since my highest has been 84,3% and that was with 510+ agi and 420+ to deflection and defence and 419 to parry. Pauzze

KazzySoJaz · 09-08-2006, 04:01 PM

laatikko wrote:

Gaige wrote:

Perfidious1 wrote:
I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink:

Cool stuff.

I'd like to see that too. I find it hard to believe since my highest has been 84,3% and that was with 510+ agi and 420+ to deflection and defence and 419 to parry.

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08-31-2006, 10:58 PM	#4
RyanTSi Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 207	self buffed with no potions im at 74.3 in def. highest i usually get when i tank in groups is 82% __________________

08-31-2006, 11:47 PM	#5
arachnidor Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	82% is awsome... My monk just hit 38, and my avaidance dropped. It didn't drop dramatically but about 5 points. Does this mean I need to try and increase my AGI? __________________

09-01-2006, 12:21 AM	#6
JudyJudy Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 368	Usually self buffed with standard equipment and no potions, I'm at 72.4%. When in groups with TV (master I), I average between 74-75%. HIghest I've ever been was 78% and some change. __________________

09-01-2006, 01:08 AM	#9
Microphage Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Coast Posts: 68	arachnidor wrote: 82% is awsome... My monk just hit 38, and my avaidance dropped. It didn't drop dramatically but about 5 points. Does this mean I need to try and increase my AGI? The the effectiveness components of avoidance, mitigation, and resistance, are all based upon the level of the mob you are facing, but they are reported as what they would be if you were facing a white conned mob. Your avoidance didnt really get worse, its just that the even con mobs are now a level higher.

09-01-2006, 01:42 AM	#10
cptvimes Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15	I'm curious what level the previous posters were... As a 56 Monk, I've not seen my avoidance much above the low to mid 50's solo. 80's!? That's pretty crazy.... Something to shoot for I suppose.... __________________ Jose Jones - Half Elf - Monk - Guk

08-31-2006, 10:29 PM	#1
Jeffmaster Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fellowship of Heavenly Fire Posts: 414	Hi I'm curious to see how high a brawler can take their avoidance...

08-31-2006, 10:31 PM	#2
Microphage Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Coast Posts: 68	Self bufffed, defensive stance, around 71%. I've seen it as high as 74% in some groups. 80% seems so far away...

08-31-2006, 10:47 PM	#3
Jeffmaster Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fellowship of Heavenly Fire Posts: 414	pretty good!! Is 80% possible as a rogue I can manage to get up to 60-65% I think

09-01-2006, 12:33 AM	#7
Kinless Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 29	With TV I can get 74.7% right now, with my normal gear. Add Potions, Dirge, Druids, etc buffs highest I have seen was 83.? %

09-01-2006, 01:05 AM	#8
Tamo Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 160	Highest I have been is 84% Dirge and Guardian FTW :smileyvery-happy: thats in Def stance with TV and no potions

09-01-2006, 02:20 AM	#11
Cirth_Beer Custom Avatar Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Storms Posts: 2,336	solo in def stance (adept3) i'm at 68.8% ( or 69.8 if i change my hooluk hat instead of the relic one)(lvl 70 in legendary (mainly claymore stuff) and a bit of fabled (relic and weapons) but i have a low agi : 280 while str/sta at 420+ and aa build is 4481sta and 44881 in int) __________________

09-01-2006, 02:43 AM	#12
Bladewind Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 783	I self buff to 72-74 depending on what I have equipped. In groups I have hit 80 or so. I can imagine with a bard, warden (with dust storm), and guardian, one could hit 85ish. It becomes pretty anelastic around 70-71. The defense bonuses from AAs in addition to t7 equipment, which has higher and mroe frequent defense mods compared to lower tier equipment, are responsible for the big increase in avoidance n t7 brawlers relative to lower tiers.. Message Edited by Bladewind on 08-31-2006 05:30 PM __________________

09-01-2006, 10:31 AM	#13
Tauch General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 104	In my tanking gear I'm at 71.5% avoidance.If I really, really wanted to, I could get to 77.3% by switching gear out and using agi hex dolls, agi potion, and agi food.But past curiosity's sake I don't think I would ever do that. =) __________________ ~Taucher

09-01-2006, 12:33 PM	#14
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	As a bruiser my highest solo is 77.8% I think, and 84% in a good group. I need more deflection __________________

09-01-2006, 07:58 PM	#15
Traxor789 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 214	I got my 36 monk , with a troub and a dirge buffing me to 76.9% and i can kill anything realy with the root mit increase-- this is with horable jewelry so agility isnt maxed but it is high with potions im sure i could get it to 80% or higher __________________

09-01-2006, 09:06 PM	#16
laatikko Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 25	My highest in grp was 84.3% according to persona screen. I was missing 1 point from parry (had 419) but other than that i was capped and my race is human thou I can't remeber if i have any traits for it (prolly not). Some other race might be able to get 85%+ but dont think it's possible for me (yeah I know I don't know what other get as their traits, might not). Solo (without TV) I'm usually around 70-74% depending on gear/weps equipped. Pauzze

09-01-2006, 09:27 PM	#17
Mala-Shea Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 105	74.3% in my solo gear and M1 defensive stance __________________ "

09-03-2006, 12:10 AM	#18
The Mo General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 105	70-74% solo depending on how far I am in the level.

09-03-2006, 01:48 AM	#19
KazzySoJaz General Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Taxachusetts Posts: 213	Highest I have seen is 78 % in a nice group setup. I have not even touched PoA yet on my Claymore though, so hard to tell what I can be capable of.

09-03-2006, 07:36 AM	#20
Gandelff Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Shattered Lands Posts: 60	what determins you Avoid? agi or something else i can figure that one out.

09-03-2006, 12:12 PM	#21
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	Deflection, parry, defense and agility. In that order. __________________

09-03-2006, 02:27 PM	#22
KazzySoJaz General Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Taxachusetts Posts: 213	Gandelff wrote: what determins you Avoid? agi or something else i can figure that one out. * Stat / Skill - Effects * 10 Skill Points of Base Defense add 2.50% To Avoidance 10 Skill Points of Deflect add 2.00% To Avoidance 10 Skill Points of Parry add 1.5% To Avoidance 10 STR add ??? Power @ Lvl 70 ( Formula ??? ) 10 STR add ??? Damage @ LvL 70 ( Formula ??? ) 10 AGI add 0.3% Avoidance @ LvL 70 ( Is This exponentially ? --> 100-200 ; 200-300 Effect smaller ) 10 STA add 50 Hit Points @ LvL 70 10 INT add ??? Dmg to Procs @ LvL 70 ( Formula ??? ) 10 WIS add 30-40 To all ResistsStolen from: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=15510 Message Edited by KazzySoJazzy on 09-03-2006 03:27 AM

09-05-2006, 04:10 PM	#23
Perfidiou General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 156	I reach 76% avoidance solo without potions if I aim for it. but I usually switch out some gear to balance more and land around 74.6-75% self buffed, without potions. last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol __________________

09-05-2006, 08:14 PM	#24
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	Perfidious1 wrote: last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol Would've liked to see that stats page on that, as I can't see how it is possible. I think the ceiling is 85% with 420 to all avoidance skills and 510 agility. /shrug __________________

09-05-2006, 08:39 PM	#25
KazzySoJaz General Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Taxachusetts Posts: 213	Gaige wrote: Perfidious1 wrote: last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol Would've liked to see that stats page on that, as I can't see how it is possible. I think the ceiling is 85% with 420 to all avoidance skills and 510 agility. /shrug Well technically 510 isnt the cap is it? (707)+starting stat = cap isnt it? Having said that though I doubt the small diff in starting agl on any race could make up for 1% avoidance shrugs*

09-05-2006, 08:45 PM	#26
Perfidiou General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 156	Gaige wrote: Perfidious1 wrote: last sunday in deathtoll I was at 86% lol Would've liked to see that stats page on that, as I can't see how it is possible. I think the ceiling is 85% with 420 to all avoidance skills and 510 agility. /shrug I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink: __________________

09-06-2006, 12:53 AM	#27
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	Perfidious1 wrote: I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink: Cool stuff. __________________

09-06-2006, 04:35 AM	#28
Riktiktiche General Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 22	well my starting str as ratonga in 10 but dropping str below 510 drops mele skill damage so cap seems to be 510 regardless

09-08-2006, 11:28 AM	#29
laatikko Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 25	Gaige wrote: Perfidious1 wrote: I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink: Cool stuff. I'd like to see that too. I find it hard to believe since my highest has been 84,3% and that was with 510+ agi and 420+ to deflection and defence and 419 to parry. Pauzze

09-08-2006, 04:01 PM	#30
KazzySoJaz General Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Taxachusetts Posts: 213	laatikko wrote: Gaige wrote: Perfidious1 wrote: I think I have a screenshot of it at home. I'll post it when I'm home from work, just for you gaige :robotwink: Cool stuff. I'd like to see that too. I find it hard to believe since my highest has been 84,3% and that was with 510+ agi and 420+ to deflection and defence and 419 to parry. Pauzze Pauzze > All Monks bows I still have his profile set as my homepage [Removed for Content]... No I am not a stalker, just using his eq2players profile as a reference for what I want to be when I grow up...