Steath Nerf to Excarnate Rickshaw effect timer

Asheng · 08-10-2006, 03:25 AM

What is the point in making the effect on the Excarnate Rickshaw 25 minutes? It was 2 minutes. It removes hostile stifle/root/fear/daze/stun. This is a rediculous change, that wasn't posted anywhere.

ToejaM t · 08-10-2006, 04:51 AM

Possibly for pvp

Asheng · 08-10-2006, 04:56 AM

PvP changes are NOT supposed to affect normal server.

ToejaM t · 08-10-2006, 05:02 AM

For an out right balance its probably added to everyone. With that proc you have something there similar to a cure - thats a healers job not the wielder (dont know what kind of weapon it is though so I'm guessing here)

Tarmagin · 08-10-2006, 06:38 AM

It is not weapon but a head slot item. This is a totally unalled for change on PvE servers. It is in no way unbalancing and one of the things that tipped the scale as to whether to spend the points on this item over the other choices. It is really getting old to have these ninja nerfs occuring to items after you have spent the time and or points to acquire them. IT REALLY NEEDS TO STOP! The nerfs are annoying enough without having them try and slide them in with no notice.

DisturbedMagg · 08-17-2006, 01:45 AM

I agree this is completly over the top, such a long timer just to remove stuns, roots, stifles etc. And to top it off ninja nerf it. 2mins -25 is a hugh difference there is no disputing that

Supp · 08-18-2006, 08:49 PM

25 is quite bad. I dare say it's high enough to not warrant consuming a hotbar spot next to Will of the Heavens.

Miroh · 08-24-2006, 04:32 PM

You know.....at times SoE gets my respect....then at times, like these, I lose all of it. Whats the point in raiding if you are just going to nerf the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] out of it. Yeah, 2 minute timer on a dispell.....now 25 min...Hope I don't need to use it. Must you put this stupidly long timer on every piece of armor with a clicky proc? Whats up with this? Why why why why why why why why why WHY. That is all I can say about everything almost that is changed in this game is WHY. Why do you think it needs to be changed, Why do you think it isn't working properly, why did you not test it properly before it went live, why do you not take feedback from test players, why do you make it so raiding is pointless, why, Why do you change things that have been out for so long. Whats next for the nerf bat.....

Message Edited by Miroh69 on 08-24-2006 05:40 AM

Miroh · 08-24-2006, 04:43 PM

ToejaM tbh wrote:For an out right balance its probably added to everyone. With that proc you have something there similar to a cure - thats a healers job not the wielder (dont know what kind of weapon it is though so I'm guessing here)

You may as well tell them to take away Will of the Heavens.....dude, just stop cause you seem to have no clue, since you think it's a weapon..... If they didn't want people to cure themselves without a healer they wouldn't have potions that cure misc spell effects.

Supp · 08-24-2006, 06:36 PM

Supple wrote:

25 is quite bad. I dare say it's high enough to not warrant consuming a hotbar spot next to Will of the Heavens.

I got the excarnate rickshaw last night, though I did go ahead and reserve a hotbar space for it. I "tried" throwing up Mountain Stance and Skin Like Mountain, and then attempted to remove the stun / root with the rickshaw. Needless to say, that didnt work, but it certainly would have made the 25 minute timer worth it. As it stands right now, I must say I continue to find it "quite bad", to quote my preself.

Supp · 08-24-2006, 06:40 PM

Miroh69 wrote:

ToejaM tbh wrote:
For an out right balance its probably added to everyone. With that proc you have something there similar to a cure - thats a healers job not the wielder (dont know what kind of weapon it is though so I'm guessing here)

You may as well tell them to take away Will of the Heavens.....dude, just stop cause you seem to have no clue, since you think it's a weapon..... If they didn't want people to cure themselves without a healer they wouldn't have potions that cure misc spell effects.

Exactly. And take away our heal while you're at it. Oh, and take away all healer damage. Oh, and rig it so mages cannot melee. Oh, and take away a cleric's mit since he doesnt need to tank.

DisturbedMagg · 08-25-2006, 12:45 AM

Still no change to this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]in nerf, i mean w tf did you change it??? 25 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] mins for a cure. I mean seriously do you think that it warrants 25mins???? We dont even use it more then once a fight anyway, if we are solo fighting for more then 2mins we are as good as dead anyway more of less becasue if the mob has that much hp were [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ed. So bascially if we wanna use this in the next SEPERATE ENCOUTER we gotta wait another 24mins. You need to sack some ppl SOE, re-hire ftw.

PVP = DIFFERENT SIDE TO EQ2, you might be a business with all your intrest in money but you made this game for pve, you made pvp becasue you were getting owned by WOW. Gear/spells/etc on pvp should NOT effect pve. It really isnt that hard to grasp is it?

Message Edited by DisturbedMaggot on 08-24-2006 01:45 PM

Message Edited by DisturbedMaggot on 08-24-2006 01:46 PM

Miroh · 08-25-2006, 05:19 AM

Supple wrote:

Supple wrote:
25 is quite bad. I dare say it's high enough to not warrant consuming a hotbar spot next to Will of the Heavens.

I got the excarnate rickshaw last night, though I did go ahead and reserve a hotbar space for it. I "tried" throwing up Mountain Stance and Skin Like Mountain, and then attempted to remove the stun / root with the rickshaw. Needless to say, that didnt work, but it certainly would have made the 25 minute timer worth it. As it stands right now, I must say I continue to find it "quite bad", to quote my preself.

Ok, let me get this straight......you tried to dispell your own buffs?? Tell me you are joking. If not.....you're clueless. Read the effects people, HOSTILE.....

RyanTSi · 08-25-2006, 10:16 AM

this stealth nerf really [Removed for Content] me off

Cirth_Beer · 08-25-2006, 11:51 AM

DisturbedMaggot a écrit:

PVP = DIFFERENT SIDE TO EQ2, you might be a business with all your intrest in money but you made this game for pve, you made pvp becasue you were getting owned by WOW. Gear/spells/etc on pvp should NOT effect pve. It really isnt that hard to grasp is it?

QFT ! dont let pvp affect pve SMILEY

Perfidiou · 08-25-2006, 04:50 PM

if SoE keeps up their destroying of the pve for the sake of the pvp, this game WILL die.

the pvp game sucks due to the mechanics not being intended for pvp and therefor makes the whole pvp game a sinking ship.

do NOT make the REAL game (PvE) suffer just because you're money hungry and greedy and want the kids from wow.

many people play this game because it's pve. and if you continue to crap up the pve game, we will all most likely leave this game for something better.

and just fyi SoE... cancelled accounts = monetary loss for you...

DarkerApprenti · 08-25-2006, 10:47 PM

Totally [Removed for Content] off about this nerf. I used this hat now (that tsunami changed) to help compensate for that change. Then what? BLAM! Another nerf. What gives? 5 mins would be ok with me. This is even longer reuse timer than our group FD...come on SOE pull your heads out of your....whatever it is you have your heads shoved up.

08-10-2006, 03:25 AM	#1
Asheng Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Alexandria, Va Posts: 109	What is the point in making the effect on the Excarnate Rickshaw 25 minutes? It was 2 minutes. It removes hostile stifle/root/fear/daze/stun. This is a rediculous change, that wasn't posted anywhere. __________________ Ashrar 70 Kerran Monk, Unrest Enlightened Dark

08-10-2006, 04:56 AM	#3
Asheng Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Alexandria, Va Posts: 109	PvP changes are NOT supposed to affect normal server. __________________ Ashrar 70 Kerran Monk, Unrest Enlightened Dark

08-18-2006, 08:49 PM	#7
Supp General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 687	25 is quite bad. I dare say it's high enough to not warrant consuming a hotbar spot next to Will of the Heavens. __________________ 80 Barbarian Necromancer \| 139 AA \| 380 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Fae Warlock \| 135 AA \| 400 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Teir'Dal Bruiser \| 132 AA \| 76 Carpenter \| 350 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Arasai Mystic \| 132 AA \| 370 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 71 Barbarian Guardian \| 108 AA \| 350 Muter of Antonia Bayle 70 Teir'Dal Fury \| 81 AA \| 80 Sage \| 400 Transmuter of Antonia Bayle 61 Sarnak Ranger \| 75 AA of Antonia Bayle Betrayals: Bruiser (2) \| Fury (1) \| Warlock (2) \| Mystic (1) \| Guardian (1) \| Ranger (1) \| Others (3)

08-24-2006, 06:36 PM	#10
Supp General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 687	Supple wrote: 25 is quite bad. I dare say it's high enough to not warrant consuming a hotbar spot next to Will of the Heavens. I got the excarnate rickshaw last night, though I did go ahead and reserve a hotbar space for it. I "tried" throwing up Mountain Stance and Skin Like Mountain, and then attempted to remove the stun / root with the rickshaw. Needless to say, that didnt work, but it certainly would have made the 25 minute timer worth it. As it stands right now, I must say I continue to find it "quite bad", to quote my preself. __________________ 80 Barbarian Necromancer \| 139 AA \| 380 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Fae Warlock \| 135 AA \| 400 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Teir'Dal Bruiser \| 132 AA \| 76 Carpenter \| 350 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Arasai Mystic \| 132 AA \| 370 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 71 Barbarian Guardian \| 108 AA \| 350 Muter of Antonia Bayle 70 Teir'Dal Fury \| 81 AA \| 80 Sage \| 400 Transmuter of Antonia Bayle 61 Sarnak Ranger \| 75 AA of Antonia Bayle Betrayals: Bruiser (2) \| Fury (1) \| Warlock (2) \| Mystic (1) \| Guardian (1) \| Ranger (1) \| Others (3)

08-24-2006, 06:40 PM	#11
Supp General Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 687	Miroh69 wrote: ToejaM tbh wrote: For an out right balance its probably added to everyone. With that proc you have something there similar to a cure - thats a healers job not the wielder (dont know what kind of weapon it is though so I'm guessing here) You may as well tell them to take away Will of the Heavens.....dude, just stop cause you seem to have no clue, since you think it's a weapon..... If they didn't want people to cure themselves without a healer they wouldn't have potions that cure misc spell effects. Exactly. And take away our heal while you're at it. Oh, and take away all healer damage. Oh, and rig it so mages cannot melee. Oh, and take away a cleric's mit since he doesnt need to tank. __________________ 80 Barbarian Necromancer \| 139 AA \| 380 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Fae Warlock \| 135 AA \| 400 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Teir'Dal Bruiser \| 132 AA \| 76 Carpenter \| 350 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 80 Arasai Mystic \| 132 AA \| 370 Tinkerer of Antonia Bayle 71 Barbarian Guardian \| 108 AA \| 350 Muter of Antonia Bayle 70 Teir'Dal Fury \| 81 AA \| 80 Sage \| 400 Transmuter of Antonia Bayle 61 Sarnak Ranger \| 75 AA of Antonia Bayle Betrayals: Bruiser (2) \| Fury (1) \| Warlock (2) \| Mystic (1) \| Guardian (1) \| Ranger (1) \| Others (3)

08-10-2006, 04:51 AM	#2
ToejaM t General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 121	Possibly for pvp

08-10-2006, 05:02 AM	#4
ToejaM t General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 121	For an out right balance its probably added to everyone. With that proc you have something there similar to a cure - thats a healers job not the wielder (dont know what kind of weapon it is though so I'm guessing here)

08-10-2006, 06:38 AM	#5
Tarmagin Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 77	It is not weapon but a head slot item. This is a totally unalled for change on PvE servers. It is in no way unbalancing and one of the things that tipped the scale as to whether to spend the points on this item over the other choices. It is really getting old to have these ninja nerfs occuring to items after you have spent the time and or points to acquire them. IT REALLY NEEDS TO STOP! The nerfs are annoying enough without having them try and slide them in with no notice.

08-17-2006, 01:45 AM	#6
DisturbedMagg General Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 164	I agree this is completly over the top, such a long timer just to remove stuns, roots, stifles etc. And to top it off ninja nerf it. 2mins -25 is a hugh difference there is no disputing that

08-24-2006, 04:32 PM	#8
Miroh General Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 488	You know.....at times SoE gets my respect....then at times, like these, I lose all of it. Whats the point in raiding if you are just going to nerf the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] out of it. Yeah, 2 minute timer on a dispell.....now 25 min...Hope I don't need to use it. Must you put this stupidly long timer on every piece of armor with a clicky proc? Whats up with this? Why why why why why why why why why WHY. That is all I can say about everything almost that is changed in this game is WHY. Why do you think it needs to be changed, Why do you think it isn't working properly, why did you not test it properly before it went live, why do you not take feedback from test players, why do you make it so raiding is pointless, why, Why do you change things that have been out for so long. Whats next for the nerf bat..... Message Edited by Miroh69 on 08-24-2006 05:40 AM

08-24-2006, 04:43 PM	#9
Miroh General Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 488	ToejaM tbh wrote:For an out right balance its probably added to everyone. With that proc you have something there similar to a cure - thats a healers job not the wielder (dont know what kind of weapon it is though so I'm guessing here) You may as well tell them to take away Will of the Heavens.....dude, just stop cause you seem to have no clue, since you think it's a weapon..... If they didn't want people to cure themselves without a healer they wouldn't have potions that cure misc spell effects.

08-25-2006, 12:45 AM	#12
DisturbedMagg General Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 164	Still no change to this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]in nerf, i mean w tf did you change it??? 25 [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] mins for a cure. I mean seriously do you think that it warrants 25mins???? We dont even use it more then once a fight anyway, if we are solo fighting for more then 2mins we are as good as dead anyway more of less becasue if the mob has that much hp were [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ed. So bascially if we wanna use this in the next SEPERATE ENCOUTER we gotta wait another 24mins. You need to sack some ppl SOE, re-hire ftw. PVP = DIFFERENT SIDE TO EQ2, you might be a business with all your intrest in money but you made this game for pve, you made pvp becasue you were getting owned by WOW. Gear/spells/etc on pvp should NOT effect pve. It really isnt that hard to grasp is it? Message Edited by DisturbedMaggot on 08-24-2006 01:45 PM Message Edited by DisturbedMaggot on 08-24-2006 01:46 PM

08-25-2006, 05:19 AM	#13
Miroh General Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 488	Supple wrote: Supple wrote: 25 is quite bad. I dare say it's high enough to not warrant consuming a hotbar spot next to Will of the Heavens. I got the excarnate rickshaw last night, though I did go ahead and reserve a hotbar space for it. I "tried" throwing up Mountain Stance and Skin Like Mountain, and then attempted to remove the stun / root with the rickshaw. Needless to say, that didnt work, but it certainly would have made the 25 minute timer worth it. As it stands right now, I must say I continue to find it "quite bad", to quote my preself. *Ok, let me get this straight......you tried to dispell your own buffs?? Tell me you are joking. If not.....you're clueless. Read the effects people, HOSTILE.....*

08-25-2006, 10:16 AM	#14
RyanTSi Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 207	this stealth nerf really [Removed for Content] me off __________________

08-25-2006, 11:51 AM	#15
Cirth_Beer Custom Avatar Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Storms Posts: 2,336	DisturbedMaggot a écrit: PVP = DIFFERENT SIDE TO EQ2, you might be a business with all your intrest in money but you made this game for pve, you made pvp becasue you were getting owned by WOW. Gear/spells/etc on pvp should NOT effect pve. It really isnt that hard to grasp is it? QFT ! dont let pvp affect pve __________________

08-25-2006, 04:50 PM	#16
Perfidiou General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 156	if SoE keeps up their destroying of the pve for the sake of the pvp, this game WILL die. the pvp game sucks due to the mechanics not being intended for pvp and therefor makes the whole pvp game a sinking ship. do NOT make the REAL game (PvE) suffer just because you're money hungry and greedy and want the kids from wow. many people play this game because it's pve. and if you continue to crap up the pve game, we will all most likely leave this game for something better. and just fyi SoE... cancelled accounts = monetary loss for you... __________________

08-25-2006, 10:47 PM	#17
DarkerApprenti Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 62	Totally [Removed for Content] off about this nerf. I used this hat now (that tsunami changed) to help compensate for that change. Then what? BLAM! Another nerf. What gives? 5 mins would be ok with me. This is even longer reuse timer than our group FD...come on SOE pull your heads out of your....whatever it is you have your heads shoved up. __________________