Heroic Mob changes/ no loot after FD?

Raage · 10-24-2005, 03:23 AM

I'm a 45 monk. This week I've been soloing the named Vamps from BLC looking for the Blood Drenched Gi. Most of yesterday, Rhayne T'Dax was dropping a chest every 3 or 4 kills. Not great loot, but it was better than nada. Also, during that 2 day period I got 2 Master Chest drops. The 1st Master's of my mostly solo career. Well, sometime yesterday afternoon, and a few hours into today (totalling about 10-15 named Vamp kills) I have gotten nothing. Not one chest drop. My technique, as a monk is as follows:1) Charge in. Kill pets (for lack of a better term for the 4-5 mobs that tag along w/ the named).2) Feign Death.3) Fill up on health & Power. 4) Charge back in and kill named. Maybe I'm just paranoid. But when I go thru 20-30 kills, getting a chest every few kills, then go thru 10-15 w/ NONE, I get suspicious. Anyone heard of any changes to Heroic ^^^'s where if you FD or otherwise break an encounter, you lose loot options?Thx

stfields · 10-24-2005, 05:39 PM

I was under the impression that if you break an encounter and re-engage it before the the encounter completely resets (respawn pets and other minions) that you get wood chest only and quest credit (if applicable).

Raage · 10-24-2005, 08:19 PM

stfields wrote:I was under the impression that if you break an encounter and re-engage it before the the encounter completely resets (respawn pets and other minions) that you get wood chest only and quest credit (if applicable).

I can tell you that on Friday eve/ Saturday morn, there were 2 occasions where I engadged T'Dax et al, killed minion, FD'ed, then killed T'Dax then got a master/metal chest drop. also, during those hours of play (Fri-Sat morn) I was getting a wooden chest drop every 3rd or 4th kill (From the time I entered ToN, killed T'Dax, harvested 3 x ?'s on second floor and got out was 10 mins). Then, the wooden chests just stopped. The only reason I'm in there killing these vamps if to get the BDG. But if I ain't getting ANY chests to drop, I'm not getting my Gi. I was just wonering if:a) anyone has heard of a change in Heroic encounters regarding drops?b) Does the BDG drop in a wooden chest or Master Chest? (which I shoulda asked before)

Colossaltitan · 10-25-2005, 06:57 AM

There is a short ammount of time after FD or wipe that an encounter is reset so to speak, but not "fully reset."

For example:
Vaz`Gok the Cursed, 2 Adds with him.

SOE stated that if you kill the 2 adds and then he kills you, your raid or group wipes.
You get back up, Vaz`Gok is there & has full HP, But his 2 adds are not back.

If you engage him and kill him when he is not "fully reset" you have a reduced chance at master chest, or even chest at all (although I have seen this happen and have not noticed a reduced chance TBH).

The proper way to do things however is,
If you die after killing One add or even a named, you should wait until the encounter fully resets and all of the mobs are as if they were when you first started to kill them.

10-24-2005, 05:39 PM	#2
stfields Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 295	I was under the impression that if you break an encounter and re-engage it before the the encounter completely resets (respawn pets and other minions) that you get wood chest only and quest credit (if applicable). __________________ ~Taveren Kinslayer~ 60 Armorer/Alchemist/Jeweler 60 Weaponsmith/Sage/Woodworker 60 Monk ~ RETIRED

10-24-2005, 03:23 AM	#1
Raage Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 135	I'm a 45 monk. This week I've been soloing the named Vamps from BLC looking for the Blood Drenched Gi. Most of yesterday, Rhayne T'Dax was dropping a chest every 3 or 4 kills. Not great loot, but it was better than nada. Also, during that 2 day period I got 2 Master Chest drops. The 1st Master's of my mostly solo career. Well, sometime yesterday afternoon, and a few hours into today (totalling about 10-15 named Vamp kills) I have gotten nothing. Not one chest drop. My technique, as a monk is as follows:1) Charge in. Kill pets (for lack of a better term for the 4-5 mobs that tag along w/ the named).2) Feign Death.3) Fill up on health & Power. 4) Charge back in and kill named. Maybe I'm just paranoid. But when I go thru 20-30 kills, getting a chest every few kills, then go thru 10-15 w/ NONE, I get suspicious. Anyone heard of any changes to Heroic ^^^'s where if you FD or otherwise break an encounter, you lose loot options?Thx

10-24-2005, 08:19 PM	#3
Raage Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 135	stfields wrote:I was under the impression that if you break an encounter and re-engage it before the the encounter completely resets (respawn pets and other minions) that you get wood chest only and quest credit (if applicable). I can tell you that on Friday eve/ Saturday morn, there were 2 occasions where I engadged T'Dax et al, killed minion, FD'ed, then killed T'Dax then got a master/metal chest drop. also, during those hours of play (Fri-Sat morn) I was getting a wooden chest drop every 3rd or 4th kill (From the time I entered ToN, killed T'Dax, harvested 3 x ?'s on second floor and got out was 10 mins). Then, the wooden chests just stopped. The only reason I'm in there killing these vamps if to get the BDG. But if I ain't getting ANY chests to drop, I'm not getting my Gi. I was just wonering if:a) anyone has heard of a change in Heroic encounters regarding drops?b) Does the BDG drop in a wooden chest or Master Chest? (which I shoulda asked before)

10-25-2005, 06:57 AM	#4
Colossaltitan Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,792	There is a short ammount of time after FD or wipe that an encounter is reset so to speak, but not "fully reset." For example: Vaz`Gok the Cursed, 2 Adds with him. SOE stated that if you kill the 2 adds and then he kills you, your raid or group wipes. You get back up, Vaz`Gok is there & has full HP, But his 2 adds are not back. If you engage him and kill him when he is not "fully reset" you have a reduced chance at master chest, or even chest at all (although I have seen this happen and have not noticed a reduced chance TBH). The proper way to do things however is, If you die after killing One add or even a named, you should wait until the encounter fully resets and all of the mobs are as if they were when you first started to kill them.