Obliterate

Lyrus · 03-02-2006, 11:49 PM

I saw the patch messages today, and since I'm at work, I can't log in. I'm curious as to what it looks like now, anyone care to fill me in?

VIet4ever · 03-03-2006, 12:09 AM

master 1725-1209decreases parry defense deflection of target by 62duration 10 secrecast 1 min132 power

sammythebull · 03-03-2006, 12:14 AM

sounds good to me

Ratty31 · 03-03-2006, 12:44 AM

Yeah it seems to be alot better than it's previous discription, just wish they'd lower the power a bit. It also says it rarely misses in it's description which is a plus.

mochl · 03-03-2006, 01:09 AM

Its awesome. Ive been using Obliterate and following that up with Flay, both attacks havent missed at all.This is really going to help out with soloing along with Bind Wound, not to mention the increase in dps. Well done devs.

sammythebull · 03-03-2006, 01:21 AM

Aye, I'm only 63 but I'm already seeing a nice increase in efficiency/soloability with Bind Wound and Belly smash. Obliterate should really help also. I'm thinking of it as Flay having its reuse timer cut in half and adding a debuff to it.

Axor · 03-03-2006, 03:57 AM

i dont like the other version or this lol

give us a defensive skill!!!!!

Grats on the master clem! SMILEY

Eet · 03-03-2006, 10:06 AM

Bah humbug. The old Obliterate would have been awesome in conjunction with Dragoon's Reflexes and Reinforcement. Now it's just another CA to mash.

Sounds good though.

Krisp · 03-03-2006, 07:49 PM

So now our "ancient" for this teir is nothing more than a dps and minor debuff. And by changing this, using Dragoon Reflexes is going to become very dangerous and more than likely useless on raids. We now have no way to maintain agro over a 12 second period while we are silenced and our reactive agro procs arent going off since we arent being hit.It was almost a really useful and unique tool.StarkeLeader of Alternate EclipseOasis

Katur · 03-03-2006, 09:13 PM

This skill has lots of potential to help us fighting high yellows , and orange cons with those debuffs.

Krisp · 03-03-2006, 09:47 PM

The debuff only lasts 10 seconds and has a 60 second recast. The new version of this spell is much less useful than the original.StarkeLeader of Alternate EclipseOasis

Sir_Halbarad · 03-04-2006, 08:22 AM

Exactly... Obliterate with Dragoon's Reflexes would have rocked the house.Good Combo for Guardians! DEV ALERT! SMILEY

Now it is another CA to mash as other's posted.... no tactics, no strategy, no player skill involved...Comparing it to our brothers in arms, the berserkers, who get a real berserk (lower defense, boost offense) for insane (I guess) dps increase - short term agreed - we get the blunt stick again.I think SOE will stop when their numbers show 1 guardian per raid guild... wow

Mjollnyr · 03-06-2006, 03:49 AM

Sir_Halbarad wrote:Exactly... Obliterate with Dragoon's Reflexes would have rocked the house.Good Combo for Guardians! DEV ALERT! Now it is another CA to mash as other's posted.... no tactics, no strategy, no player skill involved...Comparing it to our brothers in arms, the berserkers, who get a real berserk (lower defense, boost offense) for insane (I guess) dps increase - short term agreed - we get the blunt stick again.I think SOE will stop when their numbers show 1 guardian per raid guild... wow

LOL. :smileyvery-happy:Sorry, i was trolling to see the effects on your lvl 65 spell, to compare to ours. Trade yea. LOL. :smileywink:Juggernaut is totally useless. Here's our discussion on itAnywho. Grats on the nice CA guys. Back to my own boards.

stelle · 03-17-2006, 02:45 AM

im really enjoying this skill, seems to make a big differencece, and it always hit, i think it was parried 1 time so far

Kienn · 03-17-2006, 03:15 AM

i agree totally. the older version would have been neat as a toy but the new version actually has a great purpose. :smileyvery-happy:

combined with dispatch its a great debuff to mobs for us melee classes :smileyhappy:

Lyrus · 03-17-2006, 03:20 AM

Last night was toying around in the lab with the following combo to some very impressive results: Obliterate > Dispatch/debilitate then Flay. Highest hit on Flay currently is 2321 and climbing, I just wish the rankings would update some day.

sammythebull · 03-18-2006, 01:29 AM

What is this dispatch / debilitate you speak of?

Wabit · 03-18-2006, 01:55 AM

sammythebull wrote:
What is this dispatch / debilitate you speak of?

hes grouped with a brigand...

brigand + hex debuff + wis AA debuff + bind wound + wis AA (forget the name)... you can have some nice hits... the get the big crit on Flay...

sammythebull · 03-18-2006, 02:10 AM

ah, haven't had much experience with brigands, both the guilds i've been in were sans brigand.

03-03-2006, 12:09 AM	#2
VIet4ever Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 14	master 1725-1209decreases parry defense deflection of target by 62duration 10 secrecast 1 min132 power __________________

03-03-2006, 12:14 AM	#3
sammythebull Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	sounds good to me __________________ Sir Stillwell 70 Zerker / 65 weaponsmith Crushbone Laloosh NuclearAccelerator 70 Wiz / 50 Carpenter Crushbone

03-03-2006, 01:09 AM	#5
mochl Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 92	Its awesome. Ive been using Obliterate and following that up with Flay, both attacks havent missed at all.This is really going to help out with soloing along with Bind Wound, not to mention the increase in dps. Well done devs. __________________ Mochlod Thunderfrost (70 Guardian, Permafrost) Officer of Scarlet Horizon

03-03-2006, 01:21 AM	#6
sammythebull Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	Aye, I'm only 63 but I'm already seeing a nice increase in efficiency/soloability with Bind Wound and Belly smash. Obliterate should really help also. I'm thinking of it as Flay having its reuse timer cut in half and adding a debuff to it. __________________ Sir Stillwell 70 Zerker / 65 weaponsmith Crushbone Laloosh NuclearAccelerator 70 Wiz / 50 Carpenter Crushbone

03-03-2006, 10:06 AM	#8
Eet General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 43	Bah humbug. The old Obliterate would have been awesome in conjunction with Dragoon's Reflexes and Reinforcement. Now it's just another CA to mash. Sounds good though. __________________ eetums ~ TLW

03-02-2006, 11:49 PM	#1
Lyrus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 236	I saw the patch messages today, and since I'm at work, I can't log in. I'm curious as to what it looks like now, anyone care to fill me in?

03-03-2006, 12:44 AM	#4
Ratty31 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 351	Yeah it seems to be alot better than it's previous discription, just wish they'd lower the power a bit. It also says it rarely misses in it's description which is a plus.

03-03-2006, 03:57 AM	#7
Axor Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 134	i dont like the other version or this lol give us a defensive skill!!!!! Grats on the master clem!

03-03-2006, 07:49 PM	#9
Krisp Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26	So now our "ancient" for this teir is nothing more than a dps and minor debuff. And by changing this, using Dragoon Reflexes is going to become very dangerous and more than likely useless on raids. We now have no way to maintain agro over a 12 second period while we are silenced and our reactive agro procs arent going off since we arent being hit.It was almost a really useful and unique tool.StarkeLeader of Alternate EclipseOasis

03-03-2006, 09:13 PM	#10
Katur Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	This skill has lots of potential to help us fighting high yellows , and orange cons with those debuffs. __________________ Katur Proud Leader of Raging Phoenix

03-03-2006, 09:47 PM	#11
Krisp Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26	The debuff only lasts 10 seconds and has a 60 second recast. The new version of this spell is much less useful than the original.StarkeLeader of Alternate EclipseOasis

03-04-2006, 08:22 AM	#12
Sir_Halbarad Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: 4 Bayle Court, South Qeynos Posts: 509	Exactly... Obliterate with Dragoon's Reflexes would have rocked the house.Good Combo for Guardians! DEV ALERT! Now it is another CA to mash as other's posted.... no tactics, no strategy, no player skill involved...Comparing it to our brothers in arms, the berserkers, who get a real berserk (lower defense, boost offense) for insane (I guess) dps increase - short term agreed - we get the blunt stick again.I think SOE will stop when their numbers show 1 guardian per raid guild... wow __________________ Halbaradx - Guardian Dunamis - Splitpaw Dunamis is recruiting - visit us at www.dunamis-eq2.com Open Spots: Inquisitor \| Mystic \| Fury \| Sorcerer

03-06-2006, 03:49 AM	#13
Mjollnyr Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 237	Sir_Halbarad wrote:Exactly... Obliterate with Dragoon's Reflexes would have rocked the house.Good Combo for Guardians! DEV ALERT! Now it is another CA to mash as other's posted.... no tactics, no strategy, no player skill involved...Comparing it to our brothers in arms, the berserkers, who get a real berserk (lower defense, boost offense) for insane (I guess) dps increase - short term agreed - we get the blunt stick again.I think SOE will stop when their numbers show 1 guardian per raid guild... wow LOL. :smileyvery-happy:Sorry, i was trolling to see the effects on your lvl 65 spell, to compare to ours. Trade yea. LOL. :smileywink:Juggernaut is totally useless. Here's our discussion on itAnywho. Grats on the nice CA guys. Back to my own boards. __________________ ======================== Grind -- Guardian -- Kithicor -- Chaotic Legion

03-17-2006, 02:45 AM	#14
stelle Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 77	im really enjoying this skill, seems to make a big differencece, and it always hit, i think it was parried 1 time so far

03-17-2006, 03:15 AM	#15
Kienn Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	i agree totally. the older version would have been neat as a toy but the new version actually has a great purpose. :smileyvery-happy: combined with dispatch its a great debuff to mobs for us melee classes :smileyhappy: __________________

03-17-2006, 03:20 AM	#16
Lyrus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 236	Last night was toying around in the lab with the following combo to some very impressive results: Obliterate > Dispatch/debilitate then Flay. Highest hit on Flay currently is 2321 and climbing, I just wish the rankings would update some day.

03-18-2006, 01:29 AM	#17
sammythebull Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	What is this dispatch / debilitate you speak of? __________________ Sir Stillwell 70 Zerker / 65 weaponsmith Crushbone Laloosh NuclearAccelerator 70 Wiz / 50 Carpenter Crushbone

03-18-2006, 01:55 AM	#18
Wabit Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 802	sammythebull wrote: What is this dispatch / debilitate you speak of? hes grouped with a brigand... brigand + hex debuff + wis AA debuff + bind wound + wis AA (forget the name)... you can have some nice hits... the get the big crit on Flay... __________________ Wabit- 80 guardian Trixr- 70 carpenter - Oasis (part time Warden) Thoog- 80 monk - Oasis

03-18-2006, 02:10 AM	#19
sammythebull Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	ah, haven't had much experience with brigands, both the guilds i've been in were sans brigand. __________________ Sir Stillwell 70 Zerker / 65 weaponsmith Crushbone Laloosh NuclearAccelerator 70 Wiz / 50 Carpenter Crushbone