Anyone else consider asking for a 1-time chance to change classes?

GryffinMM · 10-29-2005, 05:59 AM

I am unbelievable distressed whenever I come to these boards. For months now, I've been playing as the best tanking class in the game. This was not my idea. This was the idea of SoE. I chose my class based on the state of the game when I joined (Christmas). I played my class based on the state of the game at the time. I would not have made the choices I made or put the time in that I did if I'd known what was coming. SoE changed the rules.

If I accept that all tanks will forever more be equal tanks, my time and my choices have been betrayed. This was not some small modification to the rules; this was a flat out betrayal. I really don't care why they did it. I really don't care what they think they'll achieve with the change. As far as I am concerned, they should have just deleted the guardian class and allowed us all a chance to re-select our class.

Our future utility is going to be an afterthought, a kludge, an abortion forced on us, not chosen by us. The Dev team should be here begging for ideas from us, trying to make us happy. They should be holding polls on various additions to the class to see what most guardians would choose (after having been eviscerated by those very same Devs). That they leave us squirming in misery, content to let us quit the game rather than try to make up for this betrayal makes my gorge rise and my blood boil. The criminal way they have left the now asinine DPS imbalance in the game speaks volumes to me. Guardians are a mistake. To create a 'defensive tank' and yet promise equality in tanking is an oxymoron, a paradox in the (EQ2) space-time continuum that will now be remade like it never existed, in the blink of an eye. Only one of these aspects of the game could continue, and the defensive tank isn’t it.

Before some rabid pajama-wearer jumps on this post, I am not calling for guardians to be resurrected. Rather, I’m calling for them to be put out of their misery. And hell, if you aren’t in misery, let me have the opportunity to pick a different class without losing my hours of work and plat that was put into my character. Fine, everyone tanks the same. Now, let me pick from the existing classes which level of DPS or utility I wish to try and enjoy.

Yeah, I’m in their world. But *I* *A*M* in their world, me, a real person. Treat me with a little respect. If you’re going to really upend reality (which they literally have done in the world of EQ2), respect me, a loyal, paying customer enough to let me make in informed decision. Don’t treat me like some drunken cheerleader in the back room of your frat house.

Tired of waiting,

Gryffin

KiseroHT · 10-29-2005, 08:41 AM

yeah.. i would prob like to /respec a class change.. kinda like another sony game SWG... im used to screwing on classes from that one but not as bad as here in EQ2..

my guild needs a bard type atm. would dig playing a dirge.. could make up a song about the guardian's of the past hehe

boucani · 10-29-2005, 09:05 AM

Yes, really ide like to re-select my class. It would be fair. Because now, were not good at defense, not good at offense, we do not heal, we have no pet, no mez or root, well were just comoners wandering in Norrath. We have intercede, woot! It give me the damage that my friend was supposed to take, and hes taking a third of that damge anyway, while i take a 100% of the damage, rofl, what is that??? Just to mention one... Some are worst.

Now please SOE, listen to this call and give us a chance to /respec our class, I want a Bruiser asap!

Rustan on Lavastorm

Pry · 10-29-2005, 09:15 AM

This is something I have asked for since the 1st day of LU13 release, and the answer I got was a resounding no. However, it's still a good idea SMILEY

Minion · 10-30-2005, 01:24 PM

I am sorry for betraying my class... I loved being a guardian

But the fact is I see no future here... I am starting to think Gaige has some sort of control over the people in charge

I do not have time to reroll... please let me change my class

Raijinn can you please tell us if this will be possible in the future?

Buggrit · 10-30-2005, 02:03 PM

i think thats a decent idea aslong as it boots u back to lvl 10 again so you have to level up all over again plus all current gear on you goes poof on the class you respec to that cannot use it

Pry · 10-30-2005, 07:16 PM

Buggrit wrote:i think thats a decent idea aslong as it boots u back to lvl 10 again so you have to level up all over again plus all current gear on you goes poof on the class you respec to that cannot use it

I think if you worked hard to go to level 50, then you should get level 50. Why the hell would I respec into a level 10 when I can do that in one day by re-rolling? You should be able to sell your gear at a premium to the vendor before you respec, that way you can buy new gear when you change to the class you want to.

Kynlo · 10-30-2005, 09:09 PM

I can understand you guys wanting it, but I won't happen. :smileysad:

Briz · 10-30-2005, 11:26 PM

You don't want to play a guardian anymore? Your choice. But roll a new character. You need the time from 1-50 to learn your new abilities, how your role affects groups, how your spells work in soloing, and how you can best contribute to play your new class well. But a straight switch to a new class? You might as well EBay a character. I'll have as much respect for you as an EBay-er, anyway.

Gaige · 10-31-2005, 01:02 AM

MinionTA wrote:

I am starting to think Gaige has some sort of control over the people in charge

I can assure you that your assumption is false.

Briz · 10-31-2005, 06:32 AM

Gaige wrote:

MinionTA wrote:
I am starting to think Gaige has some sort of control over the people in charge

I can assure you that your assumption is false.

You can argue it until you're blue in the face - but they won't believe you. You're the poster child for everything wrong with guardians. Well, according to the whiners, anyway. OMG H8 U!!!1 I don't buy it myself, mind you. But I suppose they have to hate on someone since the revamp.

MrDiz · 10-31-2005, 02:35 PM

1) Why do people talk about reroll and working their way back to lvl 50 like it was something that can be done in a few hours. Figuring out at lvl 20 that the class you chose is not for you means you have to spend an evening or perhaps two working your new char to 20. Doing at 50 means you have to re-devote your life to EQ2 for a few more months without rest or respite. Not the same thing at all. A /reclass option is never gonna be available but stop with the "then reroll" thing. After 10 months of playing? Get a grip.2) Why are ebayed char always 'disrespected' as not knowing how to play? We have a few people in our guild who play chars they didnt level to 50 cos friends quit and gave them their accounts. Took them about 2 hours to learn all there was to know about the toon that they didnt know from the forums and from other guildies. EQ2 is not rocket science. it doesnt take a lifetime of training to figure out how to heal the tank. Someone who has put in 10 months of play on a guardian will not tank too long to learn the ins and outs of playing an SK for example. We arent talking ebayers who havnt played before and ask an armorer to make cobalt armor for them, only arent sure whether chain or plate is best.....

Magimu · 10-31-2005, 03:42 PM

Well changing classes would be nice but if we did all that would happen is we'd just get nerfed again when SoE does another combat revamp 6 months down the road.

MrDiz · 10-31-2005, 04:33 PM

Magimulk wrote:
Well changing classes would be nice but if we did all that would happen is we'd just get nerfed again when SoE does another combat revamp 6 months down the road.

Then give another /reclass SMILEY

The thing is, its not as if it will spoil the 'continuity' of the story line. With such radical changes to character classes there is no continuity so it wouldnt realy matter to the 'suspension of beleif' if we all randomly changed classes each month.

Raahl · 10-31-2005, 07:38 PM

No. I created and played a guardian. He will be a guardian until I delete him or cancel the account.

Pry · 10-31-2005, 07:49 PM

MrDizzi wrote:
1) Why do people talk about reroll and working their way back to lvl 50 like it was something that can be done in a few hours. Figuring out at lvl 20 that the class you chose is not for you means you have to spend an evening or perhaps two working your new char to 20. Doing at 50 means you have to re-devote your life to EQ2 for a few more months without rest or respite. Not the same thing at all. A /reclass option is never gonna be available but stop with the "then reroll" thing. After 10 months of playing? Get a grip.

2) Why are ebayed char always 'disrespected' as not knowing how to play? We have a few people in our guild who play chars they didnt level to 50 cos friends quit and gave them their accounts. Took them about 2 hours to learn all there was to know about the toon that they didnt know from the forums and from other guildies. EQ2 is not rocket science. it doesnt take a lifetime of training to figure out how to heal the tank. Someone who has put in 10 months of play on a guardian will not tank too long to learn the ins and outs of playing an SK for example. We arent talking ebayers who havnt played before and ask an armorer to make cobalt armor for them, only arent sure whether chain or plate is best.....

I can't agree more! SMILEY

But you know the mantra, "EQ2 takes skill!", which is something I vehemently disagree with.

Starwind · 10-31-2005, 08:20 PM

Brizzy wrote:
You don't want to play a guardian anymore? Your choice.

But roll a new character. You need the time from 1-50 to learn your new abilities, how your role affects groups, how your spells work in soloing, and how you can best contribute to play your new class well.

But a straight switch to a new class? You might as well EBay a character. I'll have as much respect for you as an EBay-er, anyway.

I'd agree with that, except for what SOE did was flat out wrong. He's not saying he wants a class change because his character sucks now, he wants a class change because his character is totally different. It's not the same character he picked when he started, and it's been changed into something he doesn't want.

And I hate to break it to you, but there are some people who've spent the time from 1-50 playing their class legit and learning it's abilities; and they -still- suck at the game. It's that way in every game, you have people that are naturally talented, people that are average, and people that are [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. What class they play and how long they've played it doesn't have too big of an impact on it. I've played for a month, and the only thing I need more practice with is tanking for a group (since FP is freaking abandoned, it seems).

Honestly, this is along the same lines of what they did to pet casters in EQOA. Dexterity has a % modifyer to spell damage for casters in that game, and after about 6 months into the game they decided they were going to cut the modifier by 75% for pet casters, but leave it the same for wizards. So you had people at max level who'd put a ton of their stat points into dex for the extra damage, and it was now almost useless because they'd be a ton better of if they'd put it into a different stat.

People complained and asked for a stat respec, rightfully so. But sadly, because SOE honestly doesn't care about what their players think, they got the respec. A year later, after the game had an expansion added on and most of the people had either quit, rerolled, and/or deleted the char. And they didn't even add it specifically for the casters, they added it for everyone.

So based on what I've seen before, I doubt SOE will give you guys a reclassing option. I think that you should be allowed to, since this is a game and they just made it so all the time you put into your Guard as truely wasted if you don't like how the class is now. But again, highly doubtful that they'll let you do it.

RafaelSmith · 10-31-2005, 08:27 PM

Brizzy wrote:You don't want to play a guardian anymore? Your choice. But roll a new character. You need the time from 1-50 to learn your new abilities, how your role affects groups, how your spells work in soloing, and how you can best contribute to play your new class well. But a straight switch to a new class? You might as well EBay a character. I'll have as much respect for you as an EBay-er, anyway.

Ide quit before I would respec or reroll another fighter type...BUT trying to claim that you need to level from 1 to 50 so you can learn another fighter type is silly. The classes are not that different...in fact they are too similar which is at the core of all the problems we are having. If I were to all the sudden become a level 55 Monk/Bruiser today...it would take me a few hours at most to get back to being an effective tank for my group. This isnt rocket science....very little skill is actually involved...in fact EQ2 requires the least amount of skill of most MMO's ive played. The ability to read combat art descriptions and understand what they do is all thats really required. A few hours of soloing and grouping against low-risk mobs is all that is required to learn a new class...especially one within the same archetype. Now if I were to all the sudden become a Illusionist then ide probably need a day or two =P My #1 reason for not having alts or rerolling is because I DO NOT want to revisit the same content again...I already know how the game works...dont need to relearn that. I just need to take a few days to learn a new class...ide rather do that grouping with my friends at my current level than wasting time trying to get to my current level ASAP.

Aethane · 11-01-2005, 06:33 PM

Gaige wrote:

MinionTA wrote:

I am starting to think Gaige has some sort of control over the people in charge

I can assure you that your assumption is false.

Makes me feel like Luke did when Vader said"i am your father Luke!"

Vulking · 11-01-2005, 11:49 PM

If offered the chance to re-class my character I would in a heartbeat, even if it meant loosing all my combat arts and gear.

Danter · 11-02-2005, 01:00 AM

Brizzy wrote:
You don't want to play a guardian anymore? Your choice.

But roll a new character. You need the time from 1-50 to learn your new abilities, how your role affects groups, how your spells work in soloing, and how you can best contribute to play your new class well.

But a straight switch to a new class? You might as well EBay a character. I'll have as much respect for you as an EBay-er, anyway.

We already did this once....It was called LU 13.

Why do you think Moorgard said to clear your hotbars and relearn your class?

It takes all of an hour to master a class. It's not that hard to look at abilities and logically arrange them in a convienent order for you to access them quickly and easily.

After that, then all you need is reps and some people never catch on, no matter how many reps.

Uumuuanu · 11-02-2005, 02:56 AM

Why do a onetime? Get as man times as you want. I did, its called /deletestupiduselessnerfedintoretirementguardian. Great command.

36p and 6 days of playtime later, I have a toon I like playing, next nerf, its /deletethistoonandgiveallyourcrapawayandleteveryone knowthatsonysuckstoobadtomakeanonlinegameworthplay ing

I hear that command is kinda harsh though.

10-29-2005, 08:41 AM	#2
KiseroHT Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 46	yeah.. i would prob like to /respec a class change.. kinda like another sony game SWG... im used to screwing on classes from that one but not as bad as here in EQ2.. my guild needs a bard type atm. would dig playing a dirge.. could make up a song about the guardian's of the past hehe __________________ Kisero Koolbrew 80 Guardian Horse Thieves Co-Leader

10-30-2005, 02:03 PM	#6
Buggrit Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 171	i think thats a decent idea aslong as it boots u back to lvl 10 again so you have to level up all over again plus all current gear on you goes poof on the class you respec to that cannot use it __________________

10-30-2005, 09:09 PM	#8
Kynlo Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	I can understand you guys wanting it, but I won't happen. :smileysad: __________________

10-30-2005, 11:26 PM	#9
Briz General Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 75	You don't want to play a guardian anymore? Your choice. But roll a new character. You need the time from 1-50 to learn your new abilities, how your role affects groups, how your spells work in soloing, and how you can best contribute to play your new class well. But a straight switch to a new class? You might as well EBay a character. I'll have as much respect for you as an EBay-er, anyway. __________________

10-31-2005, 01:02 AM	#10
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	MinionTA wrote: I am starting to think Gaige has some sort of control over the people in charge I can assure you that your assumption is false. __________________

10-29-2005, 05:59 AM	#1
GryffinMM Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	I am unbelievable distressed whenever I come to these boards. For months now, I've been playing as the best tanking class in the game. This was not my idea. This was the idea of SoE. I chose my class based on the state of the game when I joined (Christmas). I played my class based on the state of the game at the time. I would not have made the choices I made or put the time in that I did if I'd known what was coming. SoE changed the rules. If I accept that all tanks will forever more be equal tanks, my time and my choices have been betrayed. This was not some small modification to the rules; this was a flat out betrayal. I really don't care why they did it. I really don't care what they think they'll achieve with the change. As far as I am concerned, they should have just deleted the guardian class and allowed us all a chance to re-select our class. Our future utility is going to be an afterthought, a kludge, an abortion forced on us, not chosen by us. The Dev team should be here begging for ideas from us, trying to make us happy. They should be holding polls on various additions to the class to see what most guardians would choose (after having been eviscerated by those very same Devs). That they leave us squirming in misery, content to let us quit the game rather than try to make up for this betrayal makes my gorge rise and my blood boil. The criminal way they have left the now asinine DPS imbalance in the game speaks volumes to me. Guardians are a mistake. To create a 'defensive tank' and yet promise equality in tanking is an oxymoron, a paradox in the (EQ2) space-time continuum that will now be remade like it never existed, in the blink of an eye. Only one of these aspects of the game could continue, and the defensive tank isn’t it. Before some rabid pajama-wearer jumps on this post, I am not calling for guardians to be resurrected. Rather, I’m calling for them to be put out of their misery. And hell, if you aren’t in misery, let me have the opportunity to pick a different class without losing my hours of work and plat that was put into my character. Fine, everyone tanks the same. Now, let me pick from the existing classes which level of DPS or utility I wish to try and enjoy. Yeah, I’m in their world. But I AM* in their world, me, a real person. Treat me with a little respect. If you’re going to really upend reality (which they literally have done in the world of EQ2), respect me, a loyal, paying customer enough to let me make in informed decision. Don’t treat me like some drunken cheerleader in the back room of your frat house. Tired of waiting, Gryffin

10-29-2005, 09:05 AM	#3
boucani Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 31	Yes, really ide like to re-select my class. It would be fair. Because now, were not good at defense, not good at offense, we do not heal, we have no pet, no mez or root, well were just comoners wandering in Norrath. We have intercede, woot! It give me the damage that my friend was supposed to take, and hes taking a third of that damge anyway, while i take a 100% of the damage, rofl, what is that??? Just to mention one... Some are worst. Now please SOE, listen to this call and give us a chance to /respec our class, I want a Bruiser asap! Rustan on Lavastorm

10-29-2005, 09:15 AM	#4
Pry Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 408	This is something I have asked for since the 1st day of LU13 release, and the answer I got was a resounding no. However, it's still a good idea

10-30-2005, 01:24 PM	#5
Minion Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 38	I am sorry for betraying my class... I loved being a guardian But the fact is I see no future here... I am starting to think Gaige has some sort of control over the people in charge I do not have time to reroll... please let me change my class Raijinn can you please tell us if this will be possible in the future?

10-30-2005, 07:16 PM	#7
Pry Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 408	Buggrit wrote:i think thats a decent idea aslong as it boots u back to lvl 10 again so you have to level up all over again plus all current gear on you goes poof on the class you respec to that cannot use it I think if you worked hard to go to level 50, then you should get level 50. Why the hell would I respec into a level 10 when I can do that in one day by re-rolling? You should be able to sell your gear at a premium to the vendor before you respec, that way you can buy new gear when you change to the class you want to.

10-31-2005, 06:32 AM	#11
Briz General Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 75	Gaige wrote: MinionTA wrote: I am starting to think Gaige has some sort of control over the people in charge I can assure you that your assumption is false. You can argue it until you're blue in the face - but they won't believe you. You're the poster child for everything wrong with guardians. Well, according to the whiners, anyway. OMG H8 U!!!1 I don't buy it myself, mind you. But I suppose they have to hate on someone since the revamp. __________________

10-31-2005, 02:35 PM	#12
MrDiz General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 689	1) Why do people talk about reroll and working their way back to lvl 50 like it was something that can be done in a few hours. Figuring out at lvl 20 that the class you chose is not for you means you have to spend an evening or perhaps two working your new char to 20. Doing at 50 means you have to re-devote your life to EQ2 for a few more months without rest or respite. Not the same thing at all. A /reclass option is never gonna be available but stop with the "then reroll" thing. After 10 months of playing? Get a grip.2) Why are ebayed char always 'disrespected' as not knowing how to play? We have a few people in our guild who play chars they didnt level to 50 cos friends quit and gave them their accounts. Took them about 2 hours to learn all there was to know about the toon that they didnt know from the forums and from other guildies. EQ2 is not rocket science. it doesnt take a lifetime of training to figure out how to heal the tank. Someone who has put in 10 months of play on a guardian will not tank too long to learn the ins and outs of playing an SK for example. We arent talking ebayers who havnt played before and ask an armorer to make cobalt armor for them, only arent sure whether chain or plate is best..... __________________ Gizzi: Halfling 70 Swashbuckler, Dizzi: Halfling 70 Templar, Vizzi - Halfling 61 Shadow Knight, Bizzi - Halfling 61 Dirge, Qizzi - Halfling 70 Illusionist, Tizzi - Halfling 60 guardian ( Peek inside Dizzi's Home )

10-31-2005, 03:42 PM	#13
Magimu Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 11	Well changing classes would be nice but if we did all that would happen is we'd just get nerfed again when SoE does another combat revamp 6 months down the road.

10-31-2005, 04:33 PM	#14
MrDiz General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 689	Magimulk wrote: Well changing classes would be nice but if we did all that would happen is we'd just get nerfed again when SoE does another combat revamp 6 months down the road. Then give another /reclass The thing is, its not as if it will spoil the 'continuity' of the story line. With such radical changes to character classes there is no continuity so it wouldnt realy matter to the 'suspension of beleif' if we all randomly changed classes each month. __________________ Gizzi: Halfling 70 Swashbuckler, Dizzi: Halfling 70 Templar, Vizzi - Halfling 61 Shadow Knight, Bizzi - Halfling 61 Dirge, Qizzi - Halfling 70 Illusionist, Tizzi - Halfling 60 guardian ( Peek inside Dizzi's Home )

10-31-2005, 07:38 PM	#15
Raahl Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,792	No. I created and played a guardian. He will be a guardian until I delete him or cancel the account. __________________ R.I.P. Najena Cougaar - 90 Dirge Corwin - 90 Guardian Raahl - 30 something Templar Kilped - 70'ish Ranger

10-31-2005, 07:49 PM	#16
Pry Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 408	MrDizzi wrote: 1) Why do people talk about reroll and working their way back to lvl 50 like it was something that can be done in a few hours. Figuring out at lvl 20 that the class you chose is not for you means you have to spend an evening or perhaps two working your new char to 20. Doing at 50 means you have to re-devote your life to EQ2 for a few more months without rest or respite. Not the same thing at all. A /reclass option is never gonna be available but stop with the "then reroll" thing. After 10 months of playing? Get a grip. 2) Why are ebayed char always 'disrespected' as not knowing how to play? We have a few people in our guild who play chars they didnt level to 50 cos friends quit and gave them their accounts. Took them about 2 hours to learn all there was to know about the toon that they didnt know from the forums and from other guildies. EQ2 is not rocket science. it doesnt take a lifetime of training to figure out how to heal the tank. Someone who has put in 10 months of play on a guardian will not tank too long to learn the ins and outs of playing an SK for example. We arent talking ebayers who havnt played before and ask an armorer to make cobalt armor for them, only arent sure whether chain or plate is best..... I can't agree more! But you know the mantra, "EQ2 takes skill!", which is something I vehemently disagree with.

10-31-2005, 08:20 PM	#17
Starwind Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Truth and Reconciliation; High Orbit - Sigma Octanus IV Posts: 29	Brizzy wrote: You don't want to play a guardian anymore? Your choice. But roll a new character. You need the time from 1-50 to learn your new abilities, how your role affects groups, how your spells work in soloing, and how you can best contribute to play your new class well. But a straight switch to a new class? You might as well EBay a character. I'll have as much respect for you as an EBay-er, anyway. I'd agree with that, except for what SOE did was flat out wrong. He's not saying he wants a class change because his character sucks now, he wants a class change because his character is totally different. It's not the same character he picked when he started, and it's been changed into something he doesn't want. And I hate to break it to you, but there are some people who've spent the time from 1-50 playing their class legit and learning it's abilities; and they -still- suck at the game. It's that way in every game, you have people that are naturally talented, people that are average, and people that are [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. What class they play and how long they've played it doesn't have too big of an impact on it. I've played for a month, and the only thing I need more practice with is tanking for a group (since FP is freaking abandoned, it seems). Honestly, this is along the same lines of what they did to pet casters in EQOA. Dexterity has a % modifyer to spell damage for casters in that game, and after about 6 months into the game they decided they were going to cut the modifier by 75% for pet casters, but leave it the same for wizards. So you had people at max level who'd put a ton of their stat points into dex for the extra damage, and it was now almost useless because they'd be a ton better of if they'd put it into a different stat. People complained and asked for a stat respec, rightfully so. But sadly, because SOE honestly doesn't care about what their players think, they got the respec. A year later, after the game had an expansion added on and most of the people had either quit, rerolled, and/or deleted the char. And they didn't even add it specifically for the casters, they added it for everyone. So based on what I've seen before, I doubt SOE will give you guys a reclassing option. I think that you should be allowed to, since this is a game and they just made it so all the time you put into your Guard as truely wasted if you don't like how the class is now. But again, highly doubtful that they'll let you do it. __________________ "You called down the Thunder, now reap the whirlwind." "Alcohol, my permanent accessory. Alcohol, a party-time neccessity. Alcohol, alternative to feelin' like yourself. Oh Alcohol, I still drink to your health." "Forget the godd*** lattee's, screw the rasberry icetea. A Malibu and Coke for you, a G and T for me."

10-31-2005, 08:27 PM	#18
RafaelSmith Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,808	Brizzy wrote:You don't want to play a guardian anymore? Your choice. But roll a new character. You need the time from 1-50 to learn your new abilities, how your role affects groups, how your spells work in soloing, and how you can best contribute to play your new class well. But a straight switch to a new class? You might as well EBay a character. I'll have as much respect for you as an EBay-er, anyway. Ide quit before I would respec or reroll another fighter type...BUT trying to claim that you need to level from 1 to 50 so you can learn another fighter type is silly. The classes are not that different...in fact they are too similar which is at the core of all the problems we are having. If I were to all the sudden become a level 55 Monk/Bruiser today...it would take me a few hours at most to get back to being an effective tank for my group. This isnt rocket science....very little skill is actually involved...in fact EQ2 requires the least amount of skill of most MMO's ive played. The ability to read combat art descriptions and understand what they do is all thats really required. A few hours of soloing and grouping against low-risk mobs is all that is required to learn a new class...especially one within the same archetype. Now if I were to all the sudden become a Illusionist then ide probably need a day or two =P My #1 reason for not having alts or rerolling is because I DO NOT want to revisit the same content again...I already know how the game works...dont need to relearn that. I just need to take a few days to learn a new class...ide rather do that grouping with my friends at my current level than wasting time trying to get to my current level ASAP. __________________

11-01-2005, 06:33 PM	#19
Aethane Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 98	Gaige wrote: MinionTA wrote: I am starting to think Gaige has some sort of control over the people in charge I can assure you that your assumption is false. Makes me feel like Luke did when Vader said"i am your father Luke!" __________________

11-01-2005, 11:49 PM	#20
Vulking Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 301	If offered the chance to re-class my character I would in a heartbeat, even if it meant loosing all my combat arts and gear. __________________ Red One: "stay on topic.." Red Two: "I can't shake him!" Red One: "stay on topic.." Red Two: "There too close!.....ahhhhhhghh!!"

11-02-2005, 01:00 AM	#21
Danter General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 321	Brizzy wrote: You don't want to play a guardian anymore? Your choice. But roll a new character. You need the time from 1-50 to learn your new abilities, how your role affects groups, how your spells work in soloing, and how you can best contribute to play your new class well. But a straight switch to a new class? You might as well EBay a character. I'll have as much respect for you as an EBay-er, anyway. We already did this once....It was called LU 13. Why do you think Moorgard said to clear your hotbars and relearn your class? It takes all of an hour to master a class. It's not that hard to look at abilities and logically arrange them in a convienent order for you to access them quickly and easily. After that, then all you need is reps and some people never catch on, no matter how many reps.

11-02-2005, 02:56 AM	#22
Uumuuanu Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 355	Why do a onetime? Get as man times as you want. I did, its called /deletestupiduselessnerfedintoretirementguardian. Great command. 36p and 6 days of playtime later, I have a toon I like playing, next nerf, its /deletethistoonandgiveallyourcrapawayandleteveryone knowthatsonysuckstoobadtomakeanonlinegameworthplay ing I hear that command is kinda harsh though.