Shawl timer needs another 2 min added to it

CoLD MeTaL · 06-15-2011, 12:17 PM

Even if you do everything right the combine can take 3 min x 5 is 15 not 12. 3 times last night I didn't do anything wrong, I just ran out of time with crafting gear on, and always using +progress arts.

Yes, of course I did it eventually, the stars aligned, but 15 min would be better, 14 at least gives you a fighting chance normally. And yeah i know it doesn't cost anything but time.

Kizee · 06-15-2011, 01:55 PM

CoLD MeTaL wrote:

Even if you do everything right the combine can take 3 min x 5 is 15 not 12. 3 times last night I didn't do anything wrong, I just ran out of time with crafting gear on, and always using +progress arts.
Yes, of course I did it eventually, the stars aligned, but 15 min would be better, 14 at least gives you a fighting chance normally. And yeah i know it doesn't cost anything but time.

Wow... you complain about everything lol. I am surprised you aren't blaming raiders for this though.

It is fine as it is. Obviously you didn't do everything right because I (and quite a few others that have posted) have completed all the combines first try with 2+ mins left with no crafting gear on.

Illmarr · 06-15-2011, 02:11 PM

Just did this last night on my Tailor and had 2 min 50 sec left on the timer. My Carpenter had well over 3 minutes left over wearing only the Othmir Tunic and the rest of his raid gear (Guess all that raid gear was why he could do it, eh?). Both had events to counter about 75% of the time. Countering events without fail = easy win.

Avaricious · 06-15-2011, 02:21 PM

I recently came back to Norrath after several months away and I was actually dreading this step in the quest from all the posts on the forums. On my first try, I finished with 2mins30seconds left on the clock. Maybe I'm lucky, but I dont think so.

Finora · 06-15-2011, 03:06 PM

While I can't boast a 100% first time success rate, I can say I've completed the shawl combine on 6 characters and it's really not all that bad. I've failed once because of a lag spike at a bad time, but I'd been having issues all day and should have known better than trying then. The other time was because I was simply not paying enough attention and died twice on the final combine. Still almost made it then, missed by only 5 seconds.

The only times I've failed were either due to computer or stupidity on my part, not because the time was unreachable. And keep in mind it was 10 min, which did in fact suck. 12 minutes is a challenge without being unreachable. Making it 14 or 15, you might as well not have any consequences for failing because you'd only be able to fail if you were being completely inattentive.

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tkia · 06-15-2011, 04:19 PM

Lempo@Everfrost wrote:

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Don't be so insulting. This is one of those areas of the game where lag and ping actually make a huge difference. I've done it 9 times now and it's been pretty close on time every time. When you're running with a constant delay on counter response you have to be rather more careful about using the buffs to make sure you don't screw up a counter. That equates to longer combine times for people on bad connections or a long way from the servers.

GussJr · 06-15-2011, 04:29 PM

tkia wrote:

Lempo@Everfrost wrote:
*please do not quote forum violations*
Don't be so insulting.

+1 Being rude doesn't help anyone.

Ahlana · 06-15-2011, 04:38 PM

I died twice.. had to quit a combine 3 times due to messing up and still managed to have over 1min on the timer not wearing any crafting gear...

When I was warned about this part of the quest I thought it was going to be horrible. Turns out there is plenty of time to mess up a bit and still complete it in one go.

Katz · 06-15-2011, 04:39 PM

I made it through the second try on my carpenter. I found a thread on here that had many hints on how to make it through and followed those. One thing is to start the first combine and then accept the quest when you are approaching the last line of crafting. That gains you some time. Also, put all 5 on the table at the end of crafting, don't stop to place each one.

And yes, lag plays a very big role here. Lag can make you miss an event causing you to die. You need to check and make sure you aren't lagging if you can. I know lag varies with me depending on the time of day, etc.

If I find that thread with the hints here I will put a link in.

Edit:

Here is one with some suggestions:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=497722

Lathain_Sarathai · 06-15-2011, 04:42 PM

Yes craft with a cat on the keybord dont help lol Done it 8 times each time success at first try and most of time with more than 2 min. Even success with one internet connection lost and death. But yes this quest ask you to know very well the mini game of crafting (too much ?)

Lathain_Sarathai · 06-15-2011, 04:45 PM

Cancel craft as soon as you do a mistake dont wait to die SMILEY

use all 3 kind of ability at every tick even when it ask you nothing, and count so you know when the next tic will happen and be ready to answere if it ask you something... and if it ask you nothing then 123 Craft all of them in same time then place them all at once. easy. Ho and dont stress, that dont help.

Alenna · 06-15-2011, 05:05 PM

took me more then one time(10 to be exact) but it was worth it. and I plan to do it on all my crafters when they get to htat point. I really felt that I earned the shawl.

d1anaw · 06-16-2011, 01:47 PM

Hissyfit@Oasis wrote:

CoLD MeTaL wrote:
Even if you do everything right the combine can take 3 min x 5 is 15 not 12. 3 times last night I didn't do anything wrong, I just ran out of time with crafting gear on, and always using +progress arts.
Yes, of course I did it eventually, the stars aligned, but 15 min would be better, 14 at least gives you a fighting chance normally. And yeah i know it doesn't cost anything but time.
Wow... you complain about everything lol. I am surprised you aren't blaming raiders for this though.
It is fine as it is. Obviously you didn't do everything right because I (and quite a few others that have posted) have completed all the combines first try with 2+ mins left with no crafting gear on.

Not true. I did every encounter and did the in betweens and I'd still come up short. And I had every piece of equipment on possible. My husband did virtually nothing and it worked for him first time, everytime, with no equipment.

d1anaw · 06-16-2011, 01:48 PM

Hissyfit@Oasis wrote:

CoLD MeTaL wrote:
Even if you do everything right the combine can take 3 min x 5 is 15 not 12. 3 times last night I didn't do anything wrong, I just ran out of time with crafting gear on, and always using +progress arts.
Yes, of course I did it eventually, the stars aligned, but 15 min would be better, 14 at least gives you a fighting chance normally. And yeah i know it doesn't cost anything but time.
Wow... you complain about everything lol. I am surprised you aren't blaming raiders for this though.
It is fine as it is. Obviously you didn't do everything right because I (and quite a few others that have posted) have completed all the combines first try with 2+ mins left with no crafting gear on.

This comment reminds me of the people who insist they can solo every instance in the game.

Kizee · 06-16-2011, 02:24 PM

d1anaw wrote:

Hissyfit@Oasis wrote:
CoLD MeTaL wrote:
Even if you do everything right the combine can take 3 min x 5 is 15 not 12. 3 times last night I didn't do anything wrong, I just ran out of time with crafting gear on, and always using +progress arts.
Yes, of course I did it eventually, the stars aligned, but 15 min would be better, 14 at least gives you a fighting chance normally. And yeah i know it doesn't cost anything but time.
Wow... you complain about everything lol. I am surprised you aren't blaming raiders for this though.
It is fine as it is. Obviously you didn't do everything right because I (and quite a few others that have posted) have completed all the combines first try with 2+ mins left with no crafting gear on.
This comment reminds me of the people who insist they can solo every instance in the game.

No, it is coming from a person that is sick and tired of stuff being made easier because it presents somewhat of a challenge.

Leave it "hard" because you actually feel like you accomplished something when you do complete it.

06-15-2011, 12:17 PM	#1
CoLD MeTaL Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,217	Even if you do everything right the combine can take 3 min x 5 is 15 not 12. 3 times last night I didn't do anything wrong, I just ran out of time with crafting gear on, and always using +progress arts. Yes, of course I did it eventually, the stars aligned, but 15 min would be better, 14 at least gives you a fighting chance normally. And yeah i know it doesn't cost anything but time. __________________

06-15-2011, 01:55 PM	#2
Kizee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,093	CoLD MeTaL wrote: Even if you do everything right the combine can take 3 min x 5 is 15 not 12. 3 times last night I didn't do anything wrong, I just ran out of time with crafting gear on, and always using +progress arts. Yes, of course I did it eventually, the stars aligned, but 15 min would be better, 14 at least gives you a fighting chance normally. And yeah i know it doesn't cost anything but time. Wow... you complain about everything lol. I am surprised you aren't blaming raiders for this though. It is fine as it is. Obviously you didn't do everything right because I (and quite a few others that have posted) have completed all the combines first try with 2+ mins left with no crafting gear on.

06-15-2011, 03:06 PM	#5
Finora Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,423	While I can't boast a 100% first time success rate, I can say I've completed the shawl combine on 6 characters and it's really not all that bad. I've failed once because of a lag spike at a bad time, but I'd been having issues all day and should have known better than trying then. The other time was because I was simply not paying enough attention and died twice on the final combine. Still almost made it then, missed by only 5 seconds. The only times I've failed were either due to computer or stupidity on my part, not because the time was unreachable. And keep in mind it was 10 min, which did in fact suck. 12 minutes is a challenge without being unreachable. Making it 14 or 15, you might as well not have any consequences for failing because you'd only be able to fail if you were being completely inattentive. __________________ Lady Finora Mystic of Prism Everfrost(Grobb) Finora of Valiant Knights Test Server

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06-15-2011, 04:19 PM	#7
tkia Tester Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 577	Lempo@Everfrost wrote: edited to remove forum violation Don't be so insulting. This is one of those areas of the game where lag and ping actually make a huge difference. I've done it 9 times now and it's been pretty close on time every time. When you're running with a constant delay on counter response you have to be rather more careful about using the buffs to make sure you don't screw up a counter. That equates to longer combine times for people on bad connections or a long way from the servers.

06-15-2011, 02:11 PM	#3
Illmarr Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,448	Just did this last night on my Tailor and had 2 min 50 sec left on the timer. My Carpenter had well over 3 minutes left over wearing only the Othmir Tunic and the rest of his raid gear (Guess all that raid gear was why he could do it, eh?). Both had events to counter about 75% of the time. Countering events without fail = easy win.

06-15-2011, 02:21 PM	#4
Avaricious Server: Everfrost Guild: Advocatus Diaboli Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 27	I recently came back to Norrath after several months away and I was actually dreading this step in the quest from all the posts on the forums. On my first try, I finished with 2mins30seconds left on the clock. Maybe I'm lucky, but I dont think so.

06-15-2011, 04:29 PM	#8
GussJr Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,061	tkia wrote: Lempo@Everfrost wrote: please do not quote forum violations Don't be so insulting. +1 Being rude doesn't help anyone. __________________ Collametta, 91 HE Ranger, 90 Mstr Armorer Siame, 90 K. Zerk, 90 Alchemist Palayna, 34 Fae Monk, 90 Master Carpenter Beastmastress, 90 WE BL, 31 Prov

06-15-2011, 04:38 PM	#9
Ahlana Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,238	I died twice.. had to quit a combine 3 times due to messing up and still managed to have over 1min on the timer not wearing any crafting gear... When I was warned about this part of the quest I thought it was going to be horrible. Turns out there is plenty of time to mess up a bit and still complete it in one go. __________________

06-15-2011, 04:39 PM	#10
Katz Loremaster Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,601	I made it through the second try on my carpenter. I found a thread on here that had many hints on how to make it through and followed those. One thing is to start the first combine and then accept the quest when you are approaching the last line of crafting. That gains you some time. Also, put all 5 on the table at the end of crafting, don't stop to place each one. And yes, lag plays a very big role here. Lag can make you miss an event causing you to die. You need to check and make sure you aren't lagging if you can. I know lag varies with me depending on the time of day, etc. If I find that thread with the hints here I will put a link in. Edit: Here is one with some suggestions: http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=497722

06-15-2011, 04:42 PM	#11
Lathain_Sarathai Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 436	Yes craft with a cat on the keybord dont help lol Done it 8 times each time success at first try and most of time with more than 2 min. Even success with one internet connection lost and death. But yes this quest ask you to know very well the mini game of crafting (too much ?)

06-15-2011, 04:45 PM	#12
Lathain_Sarathai Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 436	Cancel craft as soon as you do a mistake dont wait to die use all 3 kind of ability at every tick even when it ask you nothing, and count so you know when the next tic will happen and be ready to answere if it ask you something... and if it ask you nothing then 123 Craft all of them in same time then place them all at once. easy. Ho and dont stress, that dont help.

06-15-2011, 05:05 PM	#13
Alenna Server: Guk Guild: Defenders of the Light Rank: Count Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,938	took me more then one time(10 to be exact) but it was worth it. and I plan to do it on all my crafters when they get to htat point. I really felt that I earned the shawl. __________________

06-16-2011, 01:47 PM	#14
d1anaw Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,139	Hissyfit@Oasis wrote: CoLD MeTaL wrote: Even if you do everything right the combine can take 3 min x 5 is 15 not 12. 3 times last night I didn't do anything wrong, I just ran out of time with crafting gear on, and always using +progress arts. Yes, of course I did it eventually, the stars aligned, but 15 min would be better, 14 at least gives you a fighting chance normally. And yeah i know it doesn't cost anything but time. Wow... you complain about everything lol. I am surprised you aren't blaming raiders for this though. It is fine as it is. Obviously you didn't do everything right because I (and quite a few others that have posted) have completed all the combines first try with 2+ mins left with no crafting gear on. Not true. I did every encounter and did the in betweens and I'd still come up short. And I had every piece of equipment on possible. My husband did virtually nothing and it worked for him first time, everytime, with no equipment.

06-16-2011, 01:48 PM	#15
d1anaw Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,139	Hissyfit@Oasis wrote: CoLD MeTaL wrote: Even if you do everything right the combine can take 3 min x 5 is 15 not 12. 3 times last night I didn't do anything wrong, I just ran out of time with crafting gear on, and always using +progress arts. Yes, of course I did it eventually, the stars aligned, but 15 min would be better, 14 at least gives you a fighting chance normally. And yeah i know it doesn't cost anything but time. Wow... you complain about everything lol. I am surprised you aren't blaming raiders for this though. It is fine as it is. Obviously you didn't do everything right because I (and quite a few others that have posted) have completed all the combines first try with 2+ mins left with no crafting gear on. This comment reminds me of the people who insist they can solo every instance in the game.

06-16-2011, 02:24 PM	#16
Kizee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,093	d1anaw wrote: Hissyfit@Oasis wrote: CoLD MeTaL wrote: Even if you do everything right the combine can take 3 min x 5 is 15 not 12. 3 times last night I didn't do anything wrong, I just ran out of time with crafting gear on, and always using +progress arts. Yes, of course I did it eventually, the stars aligned, but 15 min would be better, 14 at least gives you a fighting chance normally. And yeah i know it doesn't cost anything but time. Wow... you complain about everything lol. I am surprised you aren't blaming raiders for this though. It is fine as it is. Obviously you didn't do everything right because I (and quite a few others that have posted) have completed all the combines first try with 2+ mins left with no crafting gear on. This comment reminds me of the people who insist they can solo every instance in the game. No, it is coming from a person that is sick and tired of stuff being made easier because it presents somewhat of a challenge. Leave it "hard" because you actually feel like you accomplished something when you do complete it.