Devastation Fist

[nyven0]

Just a quick question where can you get a better version of devastion fist App II since i can find the adept III for everyother class but not this one. that came out with bloodline chronicles. nyven0   <div></div>

[GDeWan]

You don't.  It doesn't exist.  I am a level 50 alchemist, and the recipie books that came with Bloodlines don't include it. <div></div>

[Bewts]

the above poster would be correct.  All other bloodlines essences have adept3 upgrades in our books, and only the monk version was left out. <div></div>

[Teidilu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Bewts wrote:<BR>the above poster would be correct.  All other bloodlines essences have adept3 upgrades in our books, and only the monk version was left out.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>why do poeple so often forget abou bruisers?! just somethin that frustrates me to no end *sigh*<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>sorry</DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>The reason there isn't an upgrade is because Instant Death spells can't be upgrades.</DIV>

[Teidilu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>The reason there isn't an upgrade is because Instant Death spells can't be upgrades.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>lol oh yea, i was gonna say that but posted what i did instead <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kronadin]

How do you want to upgrade your instant-death spell? Kill the mob instantly plus catapult it into the sky? :smileyvery-happy:

[Teidilu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kronadin wrote:<BR>How do you want to upgrade your instant-death spell? Kill the mob instantly plus catapult it into the sky? :smileyvery-happy: <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>omg... SoE... im begging you **gets on knees for [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] kissin/begging lvl**

[NamaeZero]

223% damage?

[Jezekie]

The spell rank has been removed on beta BTW, so it no longer shows up as App2 and misleading people in to thinking they can upgrade it when they can't. <div></div>

[Sa'meria]

<DIV>Anyone on beta know if they increased the mob levels it can be used on, or is it still capped at 50?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>I just want them to release it so that I can get it without the Bloodlines pack. I don't want to pay *ANOTHER* 8 dollars to buy it *AGAIN*.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And the spell description says that it only works on solo mobs of equal or lower level, so that doesn't mean it's capped at 50. It just means we haven't hit 51 yet to test it out.</DIV>

[bonesbro]

No, the spell description states that it only works on mobs level 50 or lower.  There are level 51 and higher mobs around that are immune to it.

[Sa'meria]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bonesbro wrote:<BR>No, the spell description states that it only works on mobs level 50 or lower.  There are level 51 and higher mobs around that are immune to it.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Yea, I noticed that on the live server description, but didnt know if they were changing it from the expansion pack.</DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Well I remember when Bloodlines first came out, the spell description said "Equal or Lesser level" than the user... I don't have the skill, though I do want to get it. All I'm saying is: How do we know it only works up to 50? the description may be wrong..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>just my 2 cents.</DIV>

[stfields]

<DIV> <HR> All I'm saying is: How do we know it only works up to 50? the description may be wrong <HR> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>SOE is notorious for their inaccurate descriptions (Think FD).  There are level 51+ mobs around that you would expect DF to possibly work on.  It doesn't.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Consider that in Acts of War, all of those level 50 mobs that run out at your raid force can all be DFed to death whether your monk is 40 or 50.  The DF always hit mobs higher than you, the description was wrong.  However, there are level 51(no arrow mobs) that are in raid instances that cannot be killed by DF.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Don't count on it working past 50.</DIV>

[Gaige]

They've changed the FD descriptions finally with DoF.

[HumD]

<DIV>Any idea if htis will work in PvP? if so, can we just 1 hit kill anyone lvl 50 or below?</DIV>

[NamaeZero]

<P>I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that if Devasation Fist works in PvP at all, it will probably be only on pets, and not PC's. So it will make us great at killing Necromancers and Conjurers, I suppose.</P> <P> </P> <P>One hit kills work very poorly in a PvP situation from a balance perspective, historically. I doubt they will let Brawlers have something like this, but I would be interesting to hear how it's working on Beta or Test.</P>

[geospa]

Ok so let me get this straight... this is a skill for monks or for bruisers? or for both? .... Where do u start this quest for the skill? Thank you in advance. <div></div>

[Gaige]

Its a brawler skill so both of us can use it.  It was part of the BLC adventure pack, and its aquired from the merchant after doing the first 3 or 4 quests for your specific camp in Nektulos Forest.

[geospa]

What lvl is this skill for? is it worth getting now that im lvl 46? or should i just forget about it?  Do i actually have to get the adventure pack? or can i just do the quest because i already have the DoF expansion? <div></div>

[Xxooo-Coav]

<P>If upgrades  could exist, they could increase the level of effectiveness, or the tier of effectiveness, or reduce reuse time.</P> <P>Currently, it works only on lvl 50 or below. It does not work on ^/^^/^^^ heroics (or solo mobs for that matter) nor named.</P> <P>5min reuse time with a (I think now) 11sec stifle.</P>

[geospa]

What is the name of the Quest to get this skill??  I'm trying to look up a walkthrough for it but i don't know what it's called.  And what i actully ment is ... what level is the Devastation Fist for ( meaning starting with what level monk i can use it ). Thankx in advance. <div></div>

[bonesbro]

<span><blockquote><hr>Xxooo-Coav wrote:<p>If upgrades  could exist, they could increase the level of effectiveness, or the tier of effectiveness, or reduce reuse time.</p> <p>Currently, it works only on lvl 50 or below. It does not work on ^/^^/^^^ heroics (or solo mobs for that matter) nor named.</p> <p>5min reuse time with a (I think now) 11sec stifle. </p><hr></blockquote> It is no longer capped at level 50.  I've been deathtouching level 58s in DoF.  It also no longer shares a reuse timer with Freezing Palm. It's my favorite skill ever.</span><div></div>

[shaolen]

I spent the last couple of nights doing the quests so I can buy the spell from the vendor.  I did the 3rd quest checked the vendor no Devastation Fist.  I completed the 4th quest and went back to the vendor, still no DF.  The other classes spells were there along with crafting books etc... Does anyone know if DF has been removed from the vendor or have they changed the amount of quests needed?  Thanks in advance. <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well I checked the bloodlines forum and my question was sort of answered with this post.  :smileymad:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=apbc&message.id=2749" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=apbc&message.id=2749</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by shaolen on <span class=date_text>10-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:19 AM</span>

[Krayzon]

<DIV>I am still confused.  So the craft book can be purchased and the spell made for us instead of completing a certain amount of quests in BLC or do we still have to do the quests for it?</DIV> <DIV>Thanks.</DIV> <DIV>Krayzun</DIV>

[shaolen]

<DIV>From the information I have seen the only way we could get the spell was to purchase it from the vendor after doing the quests.  The receipe was never in any books.  But now it is not even available at the vendor.</DIV>

[Thunderstump]

<DIV>Is the Devastation Fist removed for new players? I also made the 3rd quest (evil side), checked the vendor, all other spells there, but no Fist. I made a petition about it, and got the reply that it was removed in the Combat Changes. If so, why does everyone else have it? And why didn't we get a replacement Bloodline spell?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is there anyone that managed to get this after the Combat Changes, if so, how many quests was needed to be done, or did you get it elsewhere?</DIV>

[Owa]

<DIV>I got Devastation Fist after completing the 'Mysterious Artifacts' quest for the 'evil' team. This was sometime in the last few days and DEFINITELY AFTER the combat revamp. </DIV>

[milg]

<div></div>i talked with a GM who sent me a /tell in game about my Petition about not being able to find Devastation Fist for my bruiser and he told me they removed it from the game and to do a /feedback with any ideas on a new skill to replace it... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> so if you got it enjoy... cause anyone else who doesnt isnt gona see it /sigh Go here to see my post on the brawler forum about <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=5&message.id=2939#M2939" target=_blank>Devastation Fist</a> <div></div><p>Message Edited by milgin on <span class=date_text>10-11-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:18 AM</span>

[shaolen]

Thanks for posting the GMs response, it explains what happened to it.  Don't they usually announce when a spell has been modifed, replaced or deleted?  It seems kind of sneaky the way it was removed.  With the Blood Drenched Gi being bugged, and now Devastation Fist being removed I find absolutely no reason to ever go to "Bloodlines" again. 

[Lunah]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> milgin wrote:<BR> i talked with a GM who sent me a /tell in game about my Petition about not being able to find Devastation Fist for my bruiser and he told me they removed it from the game and to do a /feedback with any ideas on a new skill to replace it... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> so if you got it enjoy... cause anyone else who doesnt isnt gona see it /sigh<BR><BR>Go here to see my post on the brawler forum about <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=5&message.id=2939#M2939" target=_blank>Devastation Fist</A> <P>Message Edited by milgin on <SPAN class=date_text>10-11-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:18 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#00cccc>Well this sucks. Haven't been able to get enough people to finish the bloodlines quests to get 3 done and now they pull it completely? I would love the blood drenched Gi too but oh well on that with the NO ZONE tag on it now. Really sucks that those of us up and coming monks now can't get a skill from Bloodlines like all the other classes and get screwed out of nice Gi from there as well. Guess I wont bother trying to finish those quests anytime soon.</FONT> :smileysad:

[bonesbro]

<span><blockquote><hr>milgin wrote:<div></div>i talked with a GM who sent me a /tell in game about my Petition about not being able to find Devastation Fist for my bruiser and he told me they removed it from the game and to do a /feedback with any ideas on a new skill to replace it... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> so if you got it enjoy... cause anyone else who doesnt isnt gona see it /sigh Go here to see my post on the brawler forum about <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=5&message.id=2939#M2939" target="_blank">Devastation Fist</a> <div></div><p>Message Edited by milgin on <span class="date_text">10-11-2005</span> <span class="time_text">03:18 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>I think he's just talking out of his [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].  It's still in game, and it was almost certainly just an LU13 error that the scroll was removed.</span><div></div>

[Owa]

<DIV>Just taken a trip up to Timber Falls and as of the time of posting, the Devastation Fist spell is definitely no longer available from the quartermaster (evil side). Removed by LU#14 perhaps?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unless it doesn't show up if you already have it? Oh, I don't know...this whole Bloodlines thing has given me a headache.</DIV><p>Message Edited by annaspider on <span class=date_text>10-11-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:25 PM</span>

[shadyshab]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lunah wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> milgin wrote:<BR> i talked with a GM who sent me a /tell in game about my Petition about not being able to find Devastation Fist for my bruiser and he told me they removed it from the game and to do a /feedback with any ideas on a new skill to replace it... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> so if you got it enjoy... cause anyone else who doesnt isnt gona see it /sigh<BR><BR>Go here to see my post on the brawler forum about <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=5&message.id=2939#M2939" target=_blank>Devastation Fist</A> <P>Message Edited by milgin on <SPAN class=date_text>10-11-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:18 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#00cccc>Well this sucks. Haven't been able to get enough people to finish the bloodlines quests to get 3 done and now they pull it completely? I would love the blood drenched Gi too but oh well on that with the NO ZONE tag on it now. Really sucks that those of us up and coming monks now can't get a skill from Bloodlines like all the other classes and get screwed out of nice Gi from there as well. Guess I wont bother trying to finish those quests anytime soon.</FONT> :smileysad: <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>It's another stupid move by soe. Theres a reason eq2 is losing players as we speak.</DIV>

[shadyshab]

Somehow, shadowknights Harmtouch got improved and we altogether lose our DD spell.

[Raage]

so if you already have DF, you are all set, but if you don't, you never will? And they adjusted it to work on mobs 50+? Something about that ain't right....

[bonesbro]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raage wrote:<BR> so if you already have DF, you are all set, but if you don't, you never will? And they adjusted it to work on mobs 50+? Something about that ain't right....<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Exactly - I think it's just a bug that the scroll isn't on the vendor.

[milg]

you know what it very well could be a bug i meen GMs arent perfect and dont know everything.... i hope its just a Bug cause i havent got it yet myself <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[x0rtrun]

Well it sure would be nice to get some sort of information from a dev. I was all excited to be able to do bloodlines for the 2 monk related features, but at this point... it would be a waste of 10 bucks. <div></div>

[shaolen]

<DIV>Good news it appears as if Devastation Fist is back!  This a woute from Moorguard from todays update:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffcc00>*** Spells and Combat Arts ***</FONT></STRONG> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- Devastation Fist can once again be purchased from the appropriate faction vendors in Nektulos Forest.</DIV></DIV>

[Raage]

<DIV>can I git an AMEN?!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That being said, do ya suppose that is soloable by a 44 monk?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was there a while back and was doing the "scouting reports" (I believe that's the one...) and the 1st named that I faced was unbeatable solo due to power drain. I could land a few which would drop 1 maybe 2 of the "others" but was no where near getting to the named. Tried taking out named 1st and it wasn't happening.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[shaolen]

You might be able to the first named Vamp solo, but it would be a good fight, GL <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />